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trackaghost 09-21-2005 03:10 PM

Band face off!! No. 1
 
Here are your choices for the first round.

The winners of each round will compete against each other until we discover Ledgies' FAVOURITE BAND OF ALL TIME (besides Fleetwood Mac of course).

Sound like fun?

There will be a new poll each day.

Oh and defend your choice please!

gldstwmn 09-21-2005 03:14 PM

Yes, it does. :)

gldstwmn 09-21-2005 03:15 PM

So, if my band isn't listed in the poll, do I vote?

strandinthewind 09-21-2005 03:16 PM

Bruce - hands down!!!!!!!!!!!

Though Petty is a fab. performer, songwritere, etc. I mean bruce does sets that are hours long and vary.

Serrart 09-21-2005 03:17 PM

Bruce Springsteen, his songs deeply influenced me when I was a teen.

Romy

trackaghost 09-21-2005 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
So, if my band isn't listed in the poll, do I vote?

Yep! This is just to find out who you prefer between Tom and Bruce.
There will be two different artists tomorrow.
When I've covered the main bands and artists I think Ledgies like, then I'll put all the winners up against each other, until only two remain! :)

CreepingDeath 09-21-2005 03:19 PM

Cool idea, Sharon. I don't think many of my favorite bands will be mentioned though.

Anyway, I voted for Petty.

Springsteen grates on my nerves way too much. Take that underbite and go home.

dissention 09-21-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Though Petty is a fab. performer, songwritere, etc. I mean bruce does sets that are hours long and vary.

So does Petty. :xoxo:

Great idea, Sharon, it should be a lot of fun. I chose Petty. Never was a big Springsteen fan. I like Petty's unique voice and his laidback attitude. Listening to his msuic, you can tell that he has a lot of fun making it and it all seems effortless; it takes someone special to convey that.

gldstwmn 09-21-2005 03:23 PM

Tom Petty. :thumbsup: I like Bruce but I like Petty's sound and songwriting better. He also worked with a certain girl singer I like a lot. :laugh:

trackaghost 09-21-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CreepingDeath
Cool idea, Sharon. I don't think many of my favorite bands will be mentioned though.

Anyway, I voted for Petty.

Springsteen grates on my nerves way too much. Take that underbite and go home.

I'll be covering some metal and hard rock acts though, so there might be a favourite in a future poll. There are a lot of bands to choose from out there!

ontheEdgeof17 09-21-2005 03:24 PM

Petty.

I don't like Bruce at all. He looks constipated when he sings.

dissention 09-21-2005 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
He looks constipated when he sings.

He's got something in common with Lindsey.

sparky 09-21-2005 03:28 PM

Tom without contest. Bruce bores me. He not only looks constipated, he sounds it. He has a handful of songs that I like. But, something about that whole 'common man' thing rubs me the wrong way.

Dreammms 09-21-2005 03:29 PM

this is a great idea sharon. :)

this was hard but i guess i gotta go with the Jersey boy. they are both great song writers and performers.

Neal 09-21-2005 03:34 PM

Tom Petty.

I don't think I even own a single Bruce album...?

And Tom's Stevie connections give him a leg up of course.

amber 09-21-2005 03:48 PM

Kick Ass, Trackie. Hey....this idea...isn't boring!!! :eek: :laugh:

estranged4life 09-21-2005 03:58 PM

That's a hard one...
 
but Bruce gets my vote...Sorry Tom.

estranged4life 09-21-2005 04:03 PM

Ditto...
 
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Originally Posted by CreepingDeath
Cool idea, Sharon. I don't think many of my favorite bands will be mentioned though.

for me....More metal than anything these days.

Moony 09-21-2005 04:54 PM

Mr. Petty all the way. Bruce is an annoying over-emoter. Can't stand him and his bulging neck veins.

WildInTheWind 09-21-2005 06:11 PM

I love Tom Petty :xoxo: Bruce is ok, I am not as familiar with his music though. I've been a Tom Petty fanatic since I was 15. And he is amazing live!

irishgrl 09-21-2005 06:55 PM

this was a toughie, because Born to Run was really big and I do like Bruce's songs, especially Im on Fire, but I chose Tom because mostly his songs popped into my head as I was trying to think of songs each had done...Both very talented, and as I said a TOUGH choice~

ryan8472 09-21-2005 07:16 PM

Petty, hands down. :nod:

markolas 09-21-2005 07:20 PM

I voted for Petty, but I don't dislike Springsteen at all. I just like more of Petty's songs. And I prefer his voice over Springsteen's.

shackin'up 09-22-2005 04:15 AM

Tom Petty
 
Although it's an impossible choice. As a person, I'd choose Bruce, as a musician, I think he's better and more complete, too. It's just the songs of Tom Petty and his voice that appeal to my personal emotions a little more....


A FRIGGIN' Great Idea!!!!!

eclipse 09-22-2005 05:50 AM

The BOSS
 
Although not my fav. of all time...
I really Don't care for Tom Petty (too whinny!!)

( Now,excuse me as I duck the flying debris that other Ledgies will be throwing my way...)

but :sorry: Tom doesn't do it for me-- so of the two
Bruce ;)

face of glass 09-22-2005 07:24 AM

Never been a big fan of Tom Petty, but I had to choose him. And just to insult Mr. Springsteen, I quote George Starostin:
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Serious rock'n'roll, as I see it, has mostly been about rebellion or about desperation, i. e. its two main mottos are 'we gotta get out of this place' or 'there ain't no way out', depending on your current state of mind. But Bruce is not really a rebel or a pessimist; he was never thinking of changing the world. He's a typical conformist, and what he usually says - compacted in a very rough, but essentially exact manner, I feel - is this: 'You think you are miserable, Mr Working Guy? Well then, take a look around you and find out that life as you can know it is beautiful. You were born to run, you were born in the USA, your life is in your hands. Why sit there and complain when you can mount that bike, grab that girl, breathe in the night air and see romance and loftiness in even the ugliest things. And if you think your life is too simple, you are deeply mistaken - there are problems deep inside yourself you're not even aware of, but all of them can be easily solved if you want. And if you think your life is dull and meaningless, you couldn't be more wrong. Your life is magic, pure magic and mystics. There's so much about it that you don't usually pay attention to. With just a little twist of your mind (and a little injection of my songs), your dull everyday life turns into a never-ending thrilling journey on an endless romantic highway! You're a hero, you're unique, you can be a superman if you wish. Just follow my advice.'
On first sight, this looks like a beautiful perspective. At last - a spokesman comes up who tells me that I needn't try to escape this life, all I have to do is look within myself and take life as it is, with all its passion and beauty. And look at how smooth and beautiful his lyrics are? Wow, I never thought that a simple day in a simple biker's life can be described in such a glorious way! "In the day we sweat it out in the streets of a runaway American dream/At night we ride through mansions of glory in suicide machines!" Bruce, you're our man. You're da man! You help us to escape the misery and nightmarish routinenesss of our everyday life by turning us inwards and making us find beauty even within a nightmare - "mansions of glory in suicide machines". We might be simple bikers, or unhappy tramps, or just common working guys with no sense to exist, but here's that sense coming... There's a strong religious feeling emanating from the Bruce and his fans relationship, and it's no wonder that Springsteen more often causes a 'love' or 'hate' reaction - you either accept the faith and the epiphany or you indignantly decline it.

strandinthewind 09-22-2005 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Tom Petty. :thumbsup: I like Bruce but I like Petty's sound and songwriting better. He also worked with a certain girl singer I like a lot. :laugh:

I know - it is hard not to like Petty just for that :laugh:

Interestingly, Stevie used some of the E Street Band in her solo stuff :cool:

trackaghost 09-22-2005 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by face of glass
He's a typical conformist, and what he usually says - compacted in a very rough, but essentially exact manner, I feel - is this: 'You think you are miserable, Mr Working Guy? Well then, take a look around you and find out that life as you can know it is beautiful. You were born to run, you were born in the USA, your life is in your hands.

That's the biggest misintrepretation I've ever heard about Springsteen's music. How is Born In The USA a celebration of being American or appreciating what you have? It's basically a tale of a man being used by his country (to fight in the war) and then being cast away. It's a pretty bleak song. There's no positive message in it to my ears. :shrug:

Have you ever listened to any of his music? That may be a message in a couple of songs, but not the majority. I get a sneaky feeling you're bias against him cos you think he's this 'I love America' guy and he's far from it. To me Springsteen's lyrics can be compared to Woody Guthrie or even someone like Hank Williams. That's my opinion. You can keep George Starostin's (whoever the hell he is). Oh and Springsteen's one of the best harmonica players in rock music too. :)

strandinthewind 09-22-2005 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
That's the biggest misintrepretation I've ever heard about Springsteen's music. How is Born In The USA a celebration of being American or appreciating what you have? It's basically a tale of a man being used by his country (to fight in the war) and then being cast away. It's a pretty bleak song. There's no positive message in it to my ears. :shrug:

Have you ever listened to any of his music? That may be a message in a couple of songs, but not the majority. I get a sneaky feeling you're bias against him cos you think he's this 'I love America' guy and he's far from it. To me Springsteen's lyrics can be compared to Woody Guthrie or even someone like Hank Williams. That's my opinion. You can keep George Starostin's (whoever the hell he is). Oh and Springsteen's one of the best harmonica players in rock music too. :)


Yep!!

to wit:

Born in the USA

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just covering up

Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

I got in a little hometown jam
And so they put a rifle in my hands
Sent me off to Vietnam
To go and kill the yellow man

Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man says "Son if it was up to me"
I go down to see the V.A. man
He said "Son don't you understand"

Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

I had a buddy at Khe Sahn
Fighting off the Viet Cong
They're still there, he's all gone
He had a little girl in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms

Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years down the road
Nowhere to run, ain't got nowhere to go

I'm a long gone Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
I'm a cool rocking Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

face of glass 09-22-2005 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
That's the biggest misintrepretation I've ever heard about Springsteen's music. How is Born In The USA a celebration of being American or appreciating what you have? It's basically a tale of a man being used by his country (to fight in the war) and then being cast away. It's a pretty bleak song. There's no positive message in it to my ears. :shrug:

George Starostin has his word to say about Born In The USA too:
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Yeah sure, go ahead and tell me how Reagan and Co. were too thick to get the actual meaning of the title track, how they took it for a rednecky jingoistic wave the flag anthem when in reality it was condemning the American way from the first to the last line. You know what? When Black Sabbath put intentionally Christian lyrics on Master Of Reality, they could hardly hope to evade the usual accusations of Satanism - just because your record says 'leave the Earth to Satan and his slaves', you can't really help yourself if it's essentially still brutal, dark, horrific style guitar riffs. Likewise, just because your song says 'born down in a dead man's town, the first kick I took was when I hit the ground', you can't really help yourself if it's essentially still a loud, cheerful, melodically dumb, emotionally uplifting tune with a rough'n'tough guy yelling 'born in the USA, I was born in the USA' at the top of his lungs.
And don't tell me Bruce didn't know that. This is an intentionally commercialized album, an album whose creator knew it would appeal to the illiterate masses who wouldn't be able to take the 'subtlety' of the lyrics into account - and then, when accused of jingoism and right-wing sympathies, he could always turn around and say, 'hey guys, why doncha read the lyrics right'. It's an intentional provocation, and of the meanest kind, at least according to my personal values - which certainly put the individual and his complex problems on a higher level than this bunch of "a poor man's romantic" statements written as brawling arena-rock declarations. And almost the same kind of judgement can be applied to most other songs on here. 'Darlington County', 'Working On The Highway'... the list goes on and on. Read the lyrics sheets and you'll get these bleak pictures of hardship and toil that haven't undergone much change since the days of Born To Run. Then put on the album and get these happy cheery roll-down-the-window anthems to bawl around without even considering the lyrics. What? Not the Boss's fault? Excuse me, the Boss is not so dumb as you would like him to be, gentlemen. The Boss is smart. The Boss knows his symbols well: an American flag on the front cover, and the Boss's own ass covered by tattered jeans.
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Have you ever listened to any of his music?
Yes, I have heard most of his studio albums. I don't hate them, actually, and I really like a few of them like Darkness On The Edge Of Town and Nebraska. However, I think that George Starostin made some good points and some of his sentiments I recognize in myself too.
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You can keep George Starostin's (whoever the hell he is).
George Starostin is one of the best internet music writers out there, and in my opinion he kicks the **** out of most rock critics who write that stuff for their living. I suggest you visit his site, for the work of one man it covers lots of artists and albums in great detail.

trackaghost 09-22-2005 08:12 AM

I don't agree with what he has to say about Born In The USA at all.
I don't even own that album, I think it's too 80s and too commercial, but I think plenty of Springsteen's lyrics are about "rebellion and desperation".

I also think Born In The USA's genius is that it sounds so pro-American, and yet at heart is this total criticism of America. A right-wing dude can sing along without realising he's singing these really left-wing lyrics.
How fantastic is that? That's pure rebellion if you ask me!
I think Bruce knew EXACTLY what he was doing there.

Miss Vicky 09-22-2005 08:39 AM

Tom Petty, hands down.

I never got the appeal of Springsteen. His voice is good, but not great or unique. His lyrics are good, but I never found the music of his songs to be catchy or even especially memorable. :shrug:

Petty, on the other hand, was probably the one artist that really turned me on and got me interested in music in general. I've been a fan since I was eight years old and the first album I owned by any artist was Full Moon Fever. He's consistently great and has yet to release an album that fell short of that. He also has a deep respect for his fans and for the integrity of his music and has demonstrated both numerous times.

DavidMn 09-22-2005 04:10 PM

I guess I like Sprigsteen mroe because Petty reminds me of Dylan with that nasal voice thing. I can only take so much of that.

michelle2677 09-23-2005 06:59 PM

have I posted too late?? I pick tom petty.

Nico 10-02-2005 03:20 PM

I'm posting too late to count, but I just wanted to comment on these two artists.

I love them both so much. A little while ago, on imdb, someone in the music forum put them up against each other and Bruce won majorly, but I couldn't decide at the time.

Now it would be Bruce. I never understood his music or appeal until I started getting his albums and really listening to his words and the way he sang them. He's absolutely amazing. I haven't had the opportunity to see him live, but I have seen some shows on DVD and they are mindblowing. I think Darkness On the Edge of Town,Nebraska, The Rising, and his new one are brilliant. Especially The Rising. It's become a major favorite album of mine. I really think his music is amazing and incredibly diverse, although a lot of people seem to typecast him unfairly.

Now Tom...awesome, awesome, awesome. Amazing artist. I love him and honestly haven't heard anything by him that I could say I dislike. Saw him in concert and he was INCREDIBLE. One of my most favorite concert experiences ever. I think his music can be so catchy, I love his lyrics, and sometimes he has those really gorgeous songs (like Square One off of Elizabethtown) that just blow you away. I really love him as an artist, but his songs probably move me just a *tad* less than Bruce's- and that's kind of what qualifies a preference for me, when choosing between artists.

But really they both kick ass. I'm a big fan of each.


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