when has someone gone too far?
 

I was curious as to where people here think the line should be drawn as far as following Stevie or Fleetwood Mac goes. For example, when I met Lindsey in 2003, I waited in the lobby of their hotel for like 2 hours. Alot of people thought I was really weird, but I look at it this way; It's really hard to meet them, and I figured this would be the best way. I dont make a habit of waiting in hotels hardly at all, in fact that has been the only time I've ever done it, and I have never cared whwere they live or anything like that. I ' curious as to what others think on this subject. BTW, I was hoping to meet Stevie on the last tour, but it became clear early on that this wasnt going to be easy so I gave up. I guess I just figured the Edge handshake was enough for me :)

do you have a scanner david? that would be cool if you shared the pictures of you and mick and you and lindsey...

I know. I unfortunately dont have one at the moment. Dont you still have those pictures I sent you?

somewhere! i will look for them :cool:

Once I get a scanner I'll definitely do that. Arent both of those pictures great?

I think any kind of stalker behavior is too far. No wonder celebrities need security these days. I can't imagine why anyone would want to be in the limelight. I'm pretty sure that Stevie and Lindsey and any other entertainer is out there to do what they do- entertain. I don't think coming into contact with obsessed people is on the top of any of their lists.

I think that tracking down their home addresses is crossing the line, for sure. I think that we should always respect their space and privacy. They give up a lot to be in the public eye and give us this wonderful music and the least we can do is respect their privacy in return.

BUt the interesting thing when I met Lindsey was this; when I first spproached him I could tell he was a little apprehensive, but once he figured out I was a normal guy we had a nice conversation. Even the lady at the front desk of the hotel told me I handled myself very well.

I think waiting in a public area is fine. Waiting in the hotel lobby, no big deal. Because a celeb can avoid those kind of places if they want to. There's always another entrance, and they can arrange to use it.

The line comes when it invades their privacy. Their homes are on the other side of that line, I totally agree. Another place their privacy should be respected is someplace like a restaurant. That's just invasive and rude.

Yeah, I remember at the Stevie show on 7-26 at Universal City, I saw Mick sitting with his kids like 4 seats away from me, but there was no was I was going to bother him, especially since the kids were there

Good point. When people are with their families, I think that's over the line too.

I think it all comes down to using common sense basically :)

Waiting in a public hotel lobby - okay

Waiting inside a cardboard box after mailing yourself to Stevie - Not okay.


I think that sums it up. :D

I see the term "public place" being used so often. Then I see "resteraunt" and Mick at the Stevie show. I mean, aren't those public places? The crap part is, I agree w/ both sides. Never seems to be a good time to meet a celeb. Even if in a "public" place, will trying to meet them be invading their privacy or the fact that they ARE in a public place be your only shot? It's definately a tough call! :( I mean I don't think that waiting in a Hotel Lobby is a big deal. Tried it many times myself, but if you think about it, that is pre-meditaed motive. "Bumping" into them at a resteraunt or on the street= chance, IMO. So you'd be liklier to meet them at a place you didn't know they were gonna be at, but then you risk that crossing the line of personal privacy. Frankly the whole act of it makes me dizzy w/ specualtions.
I've met people at resteraunts, but I waited until they were leaving before approaching...not bomabarding their table. I have met people leaving a venue, etc. Each time you just never know. You want the opportunity to present itself, but it could always go sour. Sucks for fans.
I don't condone stalking AT ALL, but I've always wondered if the stalkers take that extra leap after so many disappointing tries. :shrug:

I think hoping to find someone in a hotel lobby, or any other public place is fine. I think you cross the line when you hang out by their house or follow them if they are in a car. I know Mel Gibson had a stalker who followed him to church and he filed charges, as he should have. Celebrities get stopped in hotel lobbies all the time. I know because I worked in an upscale hotel for a few years. As long as you aren't causing a scene or bugging the crap out of the staff, they will leave you alone.

James Taylor stayed at my hotel for like two weeks back in the 80's. I was assigned to be his personal concierge. I helped him get from his room and out to a waiting car a hundred times. Only once did he say, "I can't sign any autographs in the lobby today". He was late and I helped him get out quickly. He did yell back, "I'll be back around 11:00 if you guys want to come back", to the crowd of about 20 people who came every single day.

I think most of our favorite people are very kind and understanding about stuff like this. The only person who was a real jerk about autographs was Bruce Jenner. I wanted to yell at him saying, "Oh come on you ego filled prick- you are yesterday's news!". He was very, very nasty when I saw people come up to him in the lobby.

For whatever that was worth!
Patty

:laugh:

He was probably embarrassed by his nosejob.

:laugh: :lol: yeah, that's about right...

I would probably do the same, just to meet them once. If you did that multiple times, I think you have something that could be called an "issue." I shook Lindsey's hand from the stage and when he signed the photo I had, I grabbed his hand again and said Thank you! He said "you're very welcome." I mysteriously bumped into John McVie the day of the show in Atlanta, GA 2003. That was blind luck! I'm satisfied with those experiences.

I purchased a porta potty and placed it near a house that was under construction on Stevie's street and lived in it for several months back when she was in between tours. Is that going too far? :p

:lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

naaahhhhhhh......

I changed my sig for you biyatch. You're welcome in advance ;).

That was your port-o-potty? You stole my idea! :mad:

I think an RV retrofitted with night-vision binoculars/cameras with VCRs in constant surveillance, with satellite GPS, parked across the street from their house, while reading their mail before they get it out of their curbside mailbox is just a bit obsessive...but only "just a bit". "Stalker"??!?!? Who? ME?!? Nah!

:laugh: :lol: :thumbsup:

I admit I have looked up addresses online to see if any photos exist, but I would NEVER go and look for the place if I was in that city or stalk anybody in any way. I am just not that fanatical - just a little curious.... (I still haven't found Stevie's so I can look it up on earth Google)
In a public place, I'd probably just get close enough to see them "for real" and then walk away. I'm not starstruck, and I was raised to not interrupt people famous or not, if they're in conversation....

Thank you. Although I didn't ask you to. I merely expressed my opinion that your sig was heinously fugly, and that it scared me... :shrug:
Your new one is pretty!

How dare you call my wife heinously fugly. Your fired!! :mad:
For Amber:

I've done some pretty off-the-wall things in the past to catch a glimpse of the band. My obsession with that is over. In Vegas this past August, my group and I were like "eh...let's go eat and drink", instead of waiting for Stevie's band to come out. I just don't find interest in it anymore...meeting anymore remotely close to Stevie or Stevie, herself. :shrug:

Seriously, this picture looks like a stevie impersonator. Doesn't even barely look like her. And I didn't say stevie was ugly, I said the picture was. Pay attention. And if you keep that in your sig, I'll put you on ignore.... :lol:

That hair. My goodness. :distress: :lol:

The face lift ain't so great either. :lol:

Eh, this is a tough one. I have mixed feelings about it. Hotel lobbies ARE public places and yea, they could use a back entrance but I, personally, am hesitant to rush up to one of the band members in a hotel lobby. After running into Stevie in the Atlanta Four Seasons, I decided not to approach her. It was 1:00 AM in the morning and I knew she had just flown in from a show in Nashville. She was in very casual clothes, hair all askew, makeup every which way and I thought it was inappropriate to bother her when she obviously wanted to get upstairs and relax. Plus she was surrounded by her posse and I doubt they would have allowed it.

Lindsey..I do not think he minds the attention. I think he likes it to some extent but again, I personally, would not bother him more than once in a lobby. If I ran into him, I would definatley walk up, say hello, tell him how hot he is and ask for a picture. That would be enough. There would be no need to go back to another lobby. I would feel like he would think I was nuts if I "ran into" him again.

Restaurants, homes, funerals...completely and totally inappropriate. I think it was Tower who mentioned how spooky and scary it must be to be a celebrity trying to deal with obsessed fans. I agree and many celebrities, Stevie included, are quite scared of what they perceive to be obsessed fans. I would never want to do anything that would cross that line in Stevie's or her securities mind. Remember that story from the Atlantic City show that Marissa and I told? About the guy who Stevie saw during the beginning of the show and went off to Waddy about him? She was waving her arms all around and within 1.3 seconds Waddy had informed Marcus, who was then down in the audience yanking the guy out of the row. So, Stevie was afraid enough of this guy that he was thrown right out of the show, three songs in. (we all could tell Stevie was freaked out by this guy, just by the way she was looking at him and reacted to him) Marcus picked him out in a row full of fans in less then ten seconds so her security was familiar with this guy as well. There is definately a down side to fame and although most fans mean well and only want to say hello, a few bad apples ruin it for the whole bunch.

scary fans
 

Crossing the line of obsession....

I know someone on this board who goes out of their way to meet FM band members. They spend a lot of time and money plotting and planning which hotel the band will be staying at. This one person in particular really scares me. I will not point fingers or name names because then I look bad. Obsessed doesn't even begin to describe this person.

What is going to far as a fan? I think if you run up your credit cards year after year to go see the band all over the country, spend money you do not have to stay at posh hotels just because you know the band is staying there (and their whole focus is to "run into" the band in every city they go to and get their picture taken with them) , and then spend years trying to dig yourself out of debt you are either very immature or you have a serious mental issue.

We joke and comment about how many shows some people go to (which is great if financially they can afford it--kudos to them!!). What concerns me, is when someone can not afford these luxuries yet overextends themselves because they can not control their obsession to spend 5 maybe 10 minutes in a hotel lobby with their obsession. If they are that unstable and that obsessed, THOSE are the people that are capable of doing anything to the band members.

[QUOTE=DavidMn]I was curious as to where people here think the line should be drawn as far as following Stevie or Fleetwood Mac goes. For example, when I met Lindsey in 2003, I waited in the lobby of their hotel for like 2 hours. I ' curious as to what others think on this subject.


I think Stevie and Lindsey and all the rest are probably very used to

fans waiting for them in Hotels, and even ( if they're in the mood for it )

talking to them for at least a brief period of time.

However - and this is just personal opinion - I personally don't

recommend trying to sell Stevie's underwear on e-bay; setting up

so-called "religious" websites to solicit money for your favorite charity -

yourself, that is - using a picture of Stevie as an "Angel" and her

drawings and paintings, which she has copyrights of and which she

deserves compensation for - while implying that she endorses the website,

which she did not; posting proudly in google discussion groups that

"Stevie's security is well-aquainted with me" ; or coming in to the

Nicksfix website chat room and talking with a well-known permanent

camper there about how to "take down" Stevie's security; all within

a time frame of one summer. Those things, when taken together and

when happening in rapid succession over a short period of months,

are perhaps somewhat "over the top." Of course, jumping out of an

airplane with a Nicks license plate was perhaps a little weird in the

FIRST place, but I guess that all by itself was technically okay.

The rest is behavior that should, perhaps, be re-evaluated.

I also, personally, don't recommend showing up at her house

uninvited. That would officially be Over the Top.

I guess what I'm saying is that Stevie loves her fans, and in my

opinion as a fellow fan, it's "all good" as long as you're courteous of

Stevie's space and feelings and need for privacy.

P.S. on this - I recently heard that someone called Stevie in her

Hotel room on this current tour, lost her nerve, hung up, and called back,

thinking they could "hang out" on the phone. This was at 4 a.m.

She was surprised and shocked that Stevie was "Very Rude" to her.

OH pu-leeese. A little common sense, is all I'm sayin'.

Let the woman sleep at night, no? And don't go callin' her at all,

unless you literally for real know her personally. The poor woman probably

has to change her freaking phone number every other WEEK!

And - obviously, we need to respect Jessie, Chris and Lori's privacy too.

Anyway those are my thoughts, and I know that they're obvious to the

person that posted this question, but what can I say, that's what I

personally came up with.

Star-less Skies...
 

I just realized something else -

Stevie herself has addressed this multiple times....

"Enchanted - you THOUGHT you saw something -

IN my EYES, en-chanted; it's a SHAME that you wanted me

( you didn't TRY! )

Enchanted, you THOUGHT you saw something in my eyes..."


And of course, the infamous:

"Stand back...stand back
In the middle of my room
I did not hear from you
It's alright...it's alright
( aahh, but it's NOT all right! )
To be standing in a line
(Standing in a line)
(Standing in a line)
Well . . .
you need to be standin' in it...
( Stand Back! )"

'Ya notice what she did at the end of "Stand Back" in "Live in Boston?"

Where she put out her hand in a "blocking" gesture and acted like

the force of it all was shoving her backwards???

I felt that spoke volumes.

1.) Polite.

2.) Quiet.

3.) Respectful.

Unless you're gonna be sending jet air planes to pick people up,

but actually I think that's probably not such a hot idea these days

anyway......

I remember when 4buck used to post about what kind of dental floss she'd wedge up her crack and expose with some low riders for Lindsey to see and get "turned on" by. Homegirl even talked about ambushing him in his hotel lobby at various shows. That was some hysterical stuff.

I miss her and her ridiculous posts. I hope FM tours so she can come back and talk about her stalking adventures. :shocked: :p

I've been thinking about this and I know a couple of people are on this board, had encounters and I enjoyed them all were from fans in Australia. They followed them all over the country, finding them in every hotel they stayed at and the band loved it!

I think Mick even gave out backstage passes at some point. I remember them singing in some hotel lounge with Brett and Lindsey and John being great about seeing them everywhere. They really got a kick out of it.

I think Stevie stayed hidden or just quickly moved from the lobby to her room surrounded by her people. The guys in the band really thought it was cool that these fans followed them all over their country.

If you are honest, sincere, not intrusive and not stalking their every move, I think they are cool with running into fans.

Patty

I seem to remember some discussion of bikini waxing as well. :lol:

Nobody likes sideburns, dear. :lol:

Yep - but I'm actually embarrassed by how chicken I was. I waited for her and then, when she came, I pretty much ducked out of sight until her back was turned. :o

I still don't know what I would have done if Lindsey had come through that lobby. He's more approachable but I'm such a big coward, so... who knows.