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DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:13 PM

Why does every gay man HAVE to love Cher or Madonna?
 
I was at our local gay establishment the other night here in town called The Saloon, and I got into a conversation with someone about "being gay." The bar was throwing a Madonna birthday party, and I told him that it really didnt have much interest for me. He retorted, "How can you be gay and not love Madonna or Cher?" It really made me mad, and this goes for everyone, straight or gay. Where has the individualism gone? I'm not criticizing anyone who is a big fan of either lady, I actually dont mind them, but this whole notion of every gay man having to do this or look like that really irks me. My interest in Stevie for example has nothing to do with the fact that I'm a homosexual. It's because she has touched my heart, nothing else. I dont try to be anyone but myself, and if that's not good enough for people, too bad, I'm not sacrificing my soul for someones idea of what I should be. :nod:

ryan8472 08-16-2005 08:15 PM

I've asked the same before.I have no explanation. Just because I'm gay and happen to like Madonna, it doesnt mean those things are connected. :shrug:

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
I've asked the same before.I have no explanation. Just because I'm gay and happen to like Madonna, it doesnt mean those things are connected. :shrug:

Excellent point.

diamondsnake 08-16-2005 08:18 PM

Well, I guess it is the same thing with straight guys. How can you be a straight man and not love watching sports?

How can you be a straight woman and not love shopping for shoes?

It's not just gay men that get stereotyped. It's everyone...

GODDESS6 08-16-2005 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
Well, I guess it is the same thing with straight guys. How can you be a straight man and not love watching sports?

How can you be a straight woman and not love shopping for shoes?

It's not just gay men that get stereotyped. It's everyone...

i agree w/ you~

ryan8472 08-16-2005 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
Well, I guess it is the same thing with straight guys. How can you be a straight man and not love watching sports?

How can you be a straight woman and not love shopping for shoes?

It's not just gay men that get stereotyped. It's everyone...

Well I'm gay and I like to watch sports. Go figure. :shrug: :laugh:

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=diamondsnake]Well, I guess it is the same thing with straight guys. How can you be a straight man and not love watching sports?

How can you be a straight woman and not love shopping for shoes?

It's not just gay men that get stereotyped. It's everyone...[/QUI agree. I meant to say that, maybe it didnt come across that way, sorry. :sorry:

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=ryan8472]Well I'm gay and I like to watch sports. Go figure. :shrug: :laugh:[/Q That's cool. I am as much of a baseball nut as I am Fleetwood Mac almost. And even though I'm from Minnesota, I'm about the Biggest Boston Red Sox fan you'll find anywhere, go figure once again...... :p

diamondsnake 08-16-2005 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
Well I'm gay and I like to watch sports. Go figure. :shrug: :laugh:

I've always found that interesting about you. It's a good thing- you break the mold!

diamondsnake 08-16-2005 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=DavidMn]
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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
Well, I guess it is the same thing with straight guys. How can you be a straight man and not love watching sports?

How can you be a straight woman and not love shopping for shoes?

It's not just gay men that get stereotyped. It's everyone...[/QUI agree. I meant to say that, maybe it didnt come across that way, sorry. :sorry:

Well yeah. Stereotypes suck. Period.

amber 08-16-2005 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
Well I'm gay and I like to watch sports. Go figure. :shrug: :laugh:

and I'm straight and I like to watch sports! :laugh:

BTW, Davidmn, if you just hit the reply button of whoever you are trying to quote, it should come out a little better. :) :D

WildInTheWind 08-16-2005 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
Well, I guess it is the same thing with straight guys. How can you be a straight man and not love watching sports?

How can you be a straight woman and not love shopping for shoes?

It's not just gay men that get stereotyped. It's everyone...

I'm a straight woman and I despise shoe shopping. In fact, I hate shoes all together! My world would be a better place without them.

ryan8472 08-16-2005 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
That's cool. I am as much of a baseball nut as I am Fleetwood Mac almost. And even though I'm from Minnesota, I'm about the Biggest Boston Red Sox fan you'll find anywhere, go figure once again...... :p

Yankees all the way!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :laugh:

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
I've always found that interesting about you. It's a good thing- you break the mold!

...Thanks...I guess I'm just a freak. :laugh:

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
and I'm straight and I like to watch sports! :laugh:

BTW, Davidmn, if you just hit the reply button of whoever you are trying to quote, it should come out a little better. :) :D

SOrry. You can probably tell I'm not that good around computers huh? LoL :confused:

KarmaContestant 08-16-2005 08:28 PM

...well....many gay men love camp and outrageousness. Madonna and Cher are campy and outrageous, alot. It's that simple. I...don't much care for Cher, and am quite burnt out.....I live next to a gay bar, and I hear Cher blaring off of their patio at least 12-18 times a day. No joke. At least 6 of those 12-18 times is the song Believe. :rolleyes:

amber 08-16-2005 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
SOrry. You can probably tell I'm not that good around computers huh? LoL :confused:

oh, not at all...I just thought...uh... :D... just trying to help.

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant
...well....many gay men love camp and outrageousness. Madonna and Cher are campy and outrageous, alot. It's that simple. I...don't much care for Cher, and am quite burnt out.....I live next to a gay bar, and I hear Cher blaring off of their patio at least 12-18 times a day. No joke. At least 6 of those 12-18 times is the song Believe. :rolleyes:

how many remixes of Believe are there? :shocked:

ryan8472 08-16-2005 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
and I'm straight and I like to watch sports! :laugh:

BTW, Davidmn, if you just hit the reply button of whoever you are trying to quote, it should come out a little better. :) :D

Sports are universal. Maybe it's the inferiority thing that some gay men detest about sports. I've pretty much gotten over the fact that I suck, and I now have just as much fun watching people play instead of me. :nod: :laugh:

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
oh, not at all...I just thought...uh... :D... just trying to help.

Nor problem, its all good. :) Believe me, it takes alot more than that to upset me

amber 08-16-2005 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
Sports are universal. Maybe it's the inferiority thing that some gay men detest about sports. I've pretty much gotten over the fact that I suck, and I now have just as much fun watching people play instead of me. :nod: :laugh:

inferiority thing? :confused: but tons of straight guys aren't good and still like to watch....I dunno...and, I suspect there are more gay sports lovers than we know. ;)

ontheEdgeof17 08-16-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
Well I'm gay and I like to watch sports. Go figure. :shrug: :laugh:

I've missed something. :confused:


Oh, and I don't like Cher....Madonna's alright...not a fav or anything.

diamondsnake 08-16-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant
...well....many gay men love camp and outrageousness. Madonna and Cher are campy and outrageous, alot. It's that simple. I...don't much care for Cher, and am quite burnt out.....I live next to a gay bar, and I hear Cher blaring off of their patio at least 12-18 times a day. No joke. At least 6 of those 12-18 times is the song Believe. :rolleyes:

It may be time to move!

I like Cher but not 24 hours a day!

ryan8472 08-16-2005 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
inferiority thing? :confused: but tons of straight guys aren't good and still like to watch....I dunno...and, I suspect there are more gay sports lovers than we know. ;)

Perhaps. What I was talking about was maybe some guys feel like weaklings when watching all these fit, ripped sports stars. I would hope this isnt the case, because as we all know, most people arent that freakishly talented. :laugh:

ryan8472 08-16-2005 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
I've missed something. :confused:


Oh, and I don't like Cher....Madonna's alright...not a fav or anything.

What would that be? :shrug:

I'm not a Cher fan either. I <3 Madonna tho. But, as we are talking about, that has nothing to do with being gay.

amber 08-16-2005 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
Perhaps. What I was talking about was maybe some guys feel like weaklings when watching all these fit, ripped sports stars. I would hope this isnt the case, because as we all know, most people arent that freakishly talented. :laugh:

oh, maybe you're right. Hey, don't ask me, what I don't know about gay men could fill a book. :)

ontheEdgeof17 08-16-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
What would that be? :shrug:


Being gay. I just thought you were straight with gay tendencies towards hot celebrities. :cool:

KarmaContestant 08-16-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
how many remixes of Believe are there? :shocked:


IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME ONE. :eek:

ryan8472 08-16-2005 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
Being gay. I just thought you were straight with gay tendencies towards hot celebrities. :cool:

No, just plain gay. :p :laugh:

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
No, just plain gay. :p :laugh:

Women, who needs em? Oh I forgot, we do need them to create more delicious men........ :rolleyes: :woohoo:

DavidMn 08-16-2005 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
Women, who needs em? Oh I forgot, we do need them to create more delicious men........ :rolleyes: :woohoo:

God, I'm getting a little outta control here. time for a sdeative.....

GODDESS6 08-16-2005 08:46 PM

:lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:
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Originally Posted by DavidMn
Women, who needs em? Oh I forgot, we do need them to create more delicious men........ :rolleyes: :woohoo:


GypsySorcerer 08-16-2005 09:03 PM

God, to be a straight woman around here. No possibilities. :laugh: And I love sports, too. :wavey:

The Tower 08-16-2005 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
I like Cher but not 24 hours a day!

Of course not, honey- that wouldn't leave any time for soap operas....

amber 08-16-2005 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
Women, who needs em? Oh I forgot, we do need them to create more delicious men........ :rolleyes: :woohoo:

plus, someone to ignore here on the ledge. :lol: ;)

dissention 08-16-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
I've asked the same before.I have no explanation. Just because I'm gay and happen to like Madonna, it doesnt mean those things are connected. :shrug:

So, now you're totally gay, eh? :lol:

amber 08-16-2005 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Of course not, honey- that wouldn't leave any time for soap operas....

:lol: :lol: :lol:

*bray, cackle*

The Tower 08-16-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
So, now you're totally gay, eh? :lol:

That only took another two or three months. Excellent progress, if you ask me.

diamondsnake 08-16-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Of course not, honey- that wouldn't leave any time for soap operas....

Oh, thank you for reminding me! I haven't watched Passions yet today! I better go pop in my tape.

:)

ryan8472 08-16-2005 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
So, now you're totally gay, eh? :lol:

I've decided so. :lol:

dissention 08-16-2005 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant
...well....many gay men love camp and outrageousness. Madonna and Cher are campy and outrageous, alot. It's that simple. I...don't much care for Cher, and am quite burnt out.....I live next to a gay bar, and I hear Cher blaring off of their patio at least 12-18 times a day. No joke. At least 6 of those 12-18 times is the song Believe. :rolleyes:

Straight men love camp and outrageousness, too, they just won't admit it for being of being considered a fag. Just like they won't ever admit to being submissive in the bedroom with their wives or girlfriends because they think other men will think they're less masculine.


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