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77Rumours77 08-15-2005 10:11 PM

Fleetwood Mac Tour Survivor ('75-'05) Rounds 3 and 4
 
Welcome to Fleetwood Mac Tour Survivor! 1975-2005. Rounds 3-4
Voting will end everyday at 10 PM (CTS) (Voting for today (Aug 13) will end tomorrow at 10)
Voting will close at 9 O clock (CTS) Votes after 9 will not be accepted. This gives time to tally votes and check for errors!

The Contestants...
White Album Tour
Rumors Tour
Tusk Tour
Mirage Tour

Tango In The Night Tour (This includes Shakin' The Cage)
Behind The Mask Tour
Dance Tour


Voted Off - -
Time Tour
Say You Will Tour

ATTN: Looking for somone to run the game for tomorrow (Tuesday 8/16) Please PM me ASAP!

golden braid 08-15-2005 10:52 PM

Round 3 Behind the Mask
 
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strandinthewind 08-15-2005 11:09 PM

Round 3 Behind the Mask
 
They were all just so tired. Some of the shows were okay, but it seemd so tired.

GypsySorcerer 08-15-2005 11:20 PM

3 - Behind the Mask
 
10 characters

gldstwmn 08-15-2005 11:48 PM

Tango-Shakin The Cage :shocked:

strandinthewind 08-16-2005 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Tango-Shakin The Cage :shocked:

It is next on my list. La Nicks was trying to recover and her voice, while sometimes good, was horrifying when she went high. CM phoned in her performances and, though I like them, Billy and Rick just did not fit in - though and again, they are great players. Plus, that was the advent of the 48,000 back up musicians, which aggravated me as it was also the beginning of vocal laziness by all.

In the end, I think the FM FM tour will win because they were all so young. Mirage should win, but La Nicks' voice was so rough on that it was frightening at times.

AliceLover 08-16-2005 12:19 AM

Tusk tour
 
.............

WelshWitchPMD 08-16-2005 02:09 AM

Round 3: Behind the Mask
 
Let's try this again.

face of glass 08-16-2005 04:49 AM

Round & Round #3: Behind The Mask tour.
 
Easy to go with the majority here.

macfan 57 08-16-2005 05:46 AM

Round 3: Behind The Mask
 
Behind The Mask. Stevie looked comatose on this tour. The highlight for me was Christine's terrific piano solo during "Stop Messin' Around".

ontheEdgeof17 08-16-2005 07:12 AM

Behind The Mask Tour.


This post is almost as boring as the tour. Almost.

chiliD 08-16-2005 10:25 AM

Round 3: The Dance
 
Are you kidding me? The Behind The Mask tour was great.

The Dance tour was a real ZZZzzzzZZZZ'er. And, no song included in the set from prior to 1975?!? (namely: no "Oh Well") Wassup with that? They should be ashamed of themselves...but, how do you get a narcissistic spoiled brat egomaniac who feigns the shy, humble routine to think of anybody but himself? The who reunion may have been financially rewarding, but it broke my heart because I knew it was the WORST thing Fleetwood Mac could've done. It may have been one small step in getting new fans, but one GIANT LEAP backwards in the legacy of Fleetwood Mac.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
...Billy and Rick just did not fit in

Au contraire! I think that's a cop-out statement...the problem was that Billy & Rick DID fit in...VERY nicely, too...and that's what scared all the Buckinham fans...he WAS replaceable...and they just couldn't handle it. So, Rick & Billy get the condecending back-handed compliments..."Oh, they're good players, but they don't fit"...that's crap. They fit, TOO good, actually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Plus, that was the advent of the 48,000 back up musicians,

What backup musicians? Ok, Isaac Assante played the miscellaneous percussion...Stevie brought "the girls"...other than that, it was just Mick, John, Chris, Billy & Rick. The Dance was the one where they first brought the orchestra.

Quote:

Originally Posted by face of glass
Easy to go with the majority here.

Lemming. :laugh:

David 08-16-2005 11:12 AM

Behind The Mask
 
Started out good in Australia & the first month or two in the United States. Interesting songs in the set, too, like When the Sun Goes Down, Stand on the Rock & Save Me. But it wasn't long before enervation set in. The penultimate night of the tour, in Oakland, was as boring, logy & exhausting as the previous year's Stevie Nicks concert in Mountain View. But the Stevie Nicks concert had the virtue of being about 45 minutes shorter, so we could all go home quicker.

Hippocampus 08-16-2005 11:20 AM

Round 3 - Behind The Mask
 
The song selection was interesting though.

msLinds 08-16-2005 11:48 AM

Round 3: Behind the Mask
 
:wavey:




Life is what happens when your busy
making other plans.

Neal 08-16-2005 12:02 PM

Round 3
 
The Dance :sorry:

HomerMcvie 08-16-2005 12:15 PM

The Dance
 
I thought Stevie's girls were out of place. Then, again, somebody had to hit all her high notes.... :lol:

strandinthewind 08-16-2005 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
I thought Stevie's girls were out of place. Then, again, somebody had to hit all her high notes.... :lol:

or all of their high notes :eek: Then again, CM never really had any high notes :wavey: :wavey: :p :p

The Dance was such an event - I think it was such a harmonious thing to see the five together again. I think La Nicks stole the show with that rendition of GDW, SS, and Landslide, but others will differ in opinion. Sadly, LB's screaming was the hardest thing for me to take on that tour. It will be interesting to see where The Dance lands and if it places very low will it be because the people who think Stevie shined, but do not like her, wish to make a point.

Oh - survivor games :laugh:

jbrownsjr 08-16-2005 12:24 PM

Tango IN the Night
 
Behind the Mask was incredible.

Dark Angel 08-16-2005 01:46 PM

Round 3 - The Dance
 
I loved seeing the Rumours lineup back together, but from what I've seen and heard, it just seemed so repetitive and boring. :sorry:

face of glass 08-16-2005 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD
Au contraire! I think that's a cop-out statement...the problem was that Billy & Rick DID fit in...VERY nicely, too...and that's what scared all the Buckinham fans...he WAS replaceable...and they just couldn't handle it.

Even Rick Vito himself said in his Q&A that you can't really replace anyone. This is what he said when he was asked of what he thought about following up Lindsey Buckingham:
Quote:

I've found that you can't really "live up to" anyone. You can only be yourself, and that's what I tried to do in the Mac.
Maybe Rick and Billy were capable of "replacing" Lindsey on stage (although I'd still rather speak of them being just themselves), after all, with a successful album under their belts Fleetwood Mac could have gone on stage with just about any professional guitar player and they still would have gotten a positive response from the tour. But in studio they couldn't replace Lindsey, after all Behind The Mask was a relative flop in the USA and at that point the public backlash against the members of Fleetwood Mac hadn't yet begun (Stevie's Timespace, released in 1991, still sold in significant numbers, etc.)
Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD
So, Rick & Billy get the condecending back-handed compliments..."Oh, they're good players, but they don't fit"...that's crap. They fit, TOO good, actually.

In my opinion they are both professional players with a lot of musical skill. And I agree with SteveMacD who has often said that Rick is the best guitar player Fleetwood Mac has ever had, technically.

But then a band could be made of the finest musicians in the world, and it still may not necessarily work in the best way possible. After all, the players' limitations and quirks may not always fit together. But when they do, it doesn't matter how limited a player is; it's the band chemistry in work that makes a band successful, and I don't just mean financial success here.

After all, even Christine herself admitted in her 1995 AOL chat that Lindsey is in terms of chemistry the most appropriate guitar player for the incarnations of Fleetwood Mac that she's been in.
Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD
What backup musicians? Ok, Isaac Assante played the miscellaneous percussion...Stevie brought "the girls"...other than that, it was just Mick, John, Chris, Billy & Rick. The Dance was the one where they first brought the orchestra.

That reminds me of a post that David wrote:
Quote:

Originally Posted by David
Oddly, neither of them was able to evolve in any noticeable way in a live setting: e.g., compare Rick's playing of The Chain at the Capital Centre in October 1987 with Las Vegas in June 1990, & you'll hear virtually no difference in the riffs, the tempo, the attack or the general tone. This may have been the fault of the band in general, however. I call the 1987 tour the Digital Tour because everything went digital, & that gave a clinical dullness to the instrumentation (Mick's drums had never before sounded so bloodless & Christine's quirky keyboard presence was blunted) & the vocals, particularly the backup women. Speaking of which, there were the backup players. Oy gevalt. That was the year they all trouped out onstage for the duration of the concert -- one of the most unfortunate decisions the band's ever made, as far as I'm concerned. It was the tour that Fleetwood Mac got perilously closer to your worst MOR nightmare than it had ever been before.

A real band to me is a living, breathing organism that changes its arrangements and improvizes and feeds off from it's members constantly. I think of Fleetwood Mac on the Tusk tour as one of the ultimate peaks of this ideology (and add the Mirage tour as a continuation of that, if you will). I agree with David's statement, in that Rick and Billy didn't really evolve in the live setting of the band, even though they toured with it for a relatively long time. So clearly the chemistry that existed between the Rumours line-up was nowhere to be found after Lindsey left. Maybe that's what people mean by saying "Rick and Billy didn't fit in". The TITN tour/BTM line-up just played the songs professionally in a similar way every night and that was that, there was no real interest to see what the band could achieve in a live setting. And that's why there's no real dissimilarity between the TITN/BTM tour line-up and the line-ups for the Dance and SYW tours, in my opinion.

AliceLover 08-16-2005 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr
Behind the Mask was incredible.

Agreed!!!!!

Serrart 08-16-2005 02:29 PM

Round 3 - Behind The Mask Tour
 
Quite uninteresting to me.

Romy

AliceLover 08-16-2005 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macfan 57
Behind The Mask. Stevie looked comatose on this tour. The highlight for me was Christine's terrific piano solo during "Stop Messin' Around".

You should be ashamed of yourself being the huge christine fan that you are. This was her best tour. She was high in spriits and sounded great.

AliceLover 08-16-2005 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
Started out good in Australia & the first month or two in the United States. Interesting songs in the set, too, like When the Sun Goes Down, Stand on the Rock & Save Me. But it wasn't long before enervation set in. The penultimate night of the tour, in Oakland, was as boring, logy & exhausting as the previous year's Stevie Nicks concert in Mountain View. But the Stevie Nicks concert had the virtue of being about 45 minutes shorter, so we could all go home quicker.

The beginning of this tour was soooo much better than the end. Stevie gained so much weight, the mini skirt was put away, and she stood there. But nevertheless I still love it. Christine actually moved around the stage quite a bit.

77Rumours77 08-16-2005 10:32 PM

Round 3 (BTM) Dealy again! Sorry!
 
Round 3 sees that Behind The Mask got the most votes. This round saw a bit more diverse votes though.

Behind The Mask Tour, The votes have spoken. Please leave!

Behind The Mask Tour - 11
Dance Tour - 4
Tango Tour - 2
Tusk Tour - 1

Behind The Mask -
Golden Braid
strandinthewind
GypsySorcerer
WelshWitchPMD
face of glass
macfan 57
ontheEdgeof17
David
Hippocampus
msLinds
Serrart
Dance Tour -
chiliD
Neal
HomerMcvie
Dark Angel
Tango In The Night Tour -
gldstwmn
jbrownsjr
Tusk Tour -
AliceLover

Remaning Contestants -
White Album Tour
Rumours Tour
Tusk Tour
Mirage Tour
Tango In The Night Tour (Shakin')
Dance Tour

Voted Off -
Time Tour
Say You Will Tour
Behind The Mask

IMMUNITY!
(First one to answer the question correctly gets to pick who gets saved for the next round)
On which song from The Wild Heart album did Mick Fleetwood play drums?

ontheEdgeof17 08-16-2005 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
Behind The Mask

IMMUNITY!
(First one to answer the question correctly gets to pick who gets saved for the next round)
On which song from The Wild Heart album did Mick Fleetwood play drums?


Sable on Blond

Tusk Tour immune

chiliD 08-17-2005 01:19 AM

Round 4: The Dance
 
No "Oh Well"?? Then you gotta go. :shrug:

HomerMcvie 08-17-2005 02:14 AM

The Dance
 
The beginning of the end.... :shocked:

face of glass 08-17-2005 04:28 AM

Round & Round #4: Tango In The Night tour.
 
A good tour with well-done double-nostalgia for both the blues and Rumours eras, albeit the tour video still isn't much to talk about (in spite of a few highlights). However, I think I explained my case well enough above.

macfan 57 08-17-2005 05:59 AM

Round 4: The Dance tour
 
It's very close with me between the Tango tour & the Dance tour. I'll go with the Dance tour. The Tango tour had a better set list. I LOVED "Brown Eyes" & "HAEWAFY". The Dance was still special for me(in a nostalgic way) because that's the last Fleetwood Mac tour I'll ever see in person.

ryan8472 08-17-2005 06:19 AM

Round 4
 
The Dance 10 characters....

SteveMacD 08-17-2005 06:54 AM

The Dance.

GypsySorcerer 08-17-2005 07:51 AM

4 - Tango
 
Not quite ready for The Dance to go.

dissention 08-17-2005 08:02 AM

Tango In the Night
 
A really, really bad tour. Christine was the only thing I liked about it, the rest was dull as dishwater. Not a fan of Rick and Billy, they just don't do anything for me, and the "band" had a very soft, clinical sound. That tour exemplifies the word boring.

sodascouts 08-17-2005 09:34 AM

4 - TITN tour
 
Two words: No Lindsey.

chiliD 08-17-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodascouts
Two words: No Lindsey.

Exactly how I wished Fleetwood Mac would've stayed...with "no Lindsey". :cool:

dissention 08-17-2005 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD
Exactly how I wished Fleetwood Mac would've stayed...with "no Lindsey". :cool:

Exactly how I feel about Rick and Billy. :laugh:

strandinthewind 08-17-2005 10:17 AM

Round 4: Tango In The Night tour
 
I thought they all sounded comparatively bad on this one - though I liked the show I attended.

golden braid 08-17-2005 10:19 AM

Round 4 TITN Tour
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sodascouts
Two words: No Lindsey.

Agreed. :nod:


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