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77Rumours77 08-13-2005 11:36 AM

Fleetwood Mac Tour Survivor! ('75-'05). Rounds 1 and 2
 
Yes!
Jacob is back with a new survivor!
OK, there is 1 small thing. Some night I will not be able to run this game due to my work schedule (This is mainly the reason I havent been doing this game for the past year). So if someone could pick up the slack for me when I am at work I would much appreciate it! Just PM me (Based on first come first serve)

OK now that I have all that cleared up, Lets start the game.

Welcome to Fleetwood Mac Tour Survivor! 1975-2005.
Voting will end everyday at 10 PM (CTS) (Voting for today (Aug 13) will end tomorrow at 10)
Voting will close at 9 O clock (CTS) Votes after 9 will not be accepted. This gives time to tally votes and check for errors!

The Contestants...
White Album Tour
Rumors Tour
Tusk Tour
Mirage Tour

Tango In The Night Tour (This includes Shakin' The Cage)
Behind The Mask Tour
Time Tour
Dance Tour
Say You Will Tour


All votes are final.
Immunity will be givin starting in round 3.
OK,
Let the games begin and have fun!

strandinthewind 08-13-2005 11:39 AM

Time Tour to go
 
Liked Bekka and the others. But, no CM, SN, or LB is not FM to me - though the Time line up was good - no doubt about that.

HomerMcvie 08-13-2005 11:46 AM

Say You Will tour
 
A day without Christine, is like a day without sunshine. And Bekka was great, sooooo......

strandinthewind 08-13-2005 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
A day without Christine, is like a day without sunshine. And Bekka was great, sooooo......

More than the Time tour, which she did not do :shrug:

HomerMcvie 08-13-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
More than the Time tour, which she did not do :shrug:

I'm aware. FM was always about REinventing itself, and the Time lineup was good, but was never given the chance to blossom. Reinvention stopped after old what's her name. I mean Mick seemed to want to try with Time, but backpeddled. I think Bekka's one of the best singers FM ever had.
AND, I voted SYW because neither one of them can hit any high notes anymore, and that's a turnoff, man....

DavidMn 08-13-2005 12:28 PM

Say You Will without question. I am still amazed to this day at how at all of the shows I saw on that tour, not one night did they mail it in :)

DavidMn 08-13-2005 12:30 PM

The Dance is up there for me too, because I got a chance to see the incomparable Christine McVie 5 times.

Dark Angel 08-13-2005 01:30 PM

Round 1 - Time Tour
 
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ontheEdgeof17 08-13-2005 02:38 PM

Round 1: Time
 
.....just because I've never heard a complete boot and I'm a Chiffonhead. I do love me some Bekka, though.

ryan8472 08-13-2005 02:50 PM

Round 1: Time Tour
 
The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your post to at least 10 characters. :rolleyes: :laugh:

Hawkeye 08-13-2005 02:51 PM

BTM Tour
 
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David 08-13-2005 03:03 PM

Round 1 - Say You Will tour
 
Out with the Say You Will tour, please.

WelshWitchPMD 08-13-2005 03:03 PM

Round 1: Time Tour
 
I have to say that I skipped that one.

David 08-13-2005 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WelshWitchPMD
I have to say that I skipped that one.

I love the way Mick & John play, so I saw two shows on that tour at the same venue, a year apart. The low-tech quality of the show enabled me to really enjoy the actual sound of my favorite rhythm section, unlike the later FM tours, whose excessive hardware & arrangements buried their deftness in aural devil's food cake.

face of glass 08-13-2005 03:17 PM

Round & Round #1: Say You Will tour.
 
I'm basing this on bootlegs, although I haven't heard anything but snatches from the Time tour bootlegs. So I'm voting off the Say You Will tour, even though it remains the only tour when I've actually seen them.

David 08-13-2005 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by face of glass
I'm basing this on bootlegs, although I haven't heard anything but snatches from the Time tour bootlegs.

The Time tour wasn't exactly an artistic watershed. But it was a nice, cozy, low-key affair that was akin to hearing a clean, professional cover band in close proximity playing Fleetwood Mac material. It was more Zoo-like than any other Mac tour, & I have good memories from it. It was also, by far, the easiest opportunity to hang out with Mick & John & just chat with them, for those who like that sort of thing.
Quote:

So I'm voting off the Say You Will tour, even though it remains the only tour when I've actually seen them.
I'm not sure what that says about you, Gaius, but it couldn't be good! :laugh:

SteveMacD 08-13-2005 03:27 PM

Say You Will tour. Too many extra musicians, without having Christine McVie (like on "The Dance").

face of glass 08-13-2005 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
I'm not sure what that says about you, Gaius, but it couldn't be good! :laugh:

Basically I got burned out watching the whole thing go on in 2003 and 2004; very little setlist changes, same speeches every night from Mr. Pretentiousness and same solos a 100+ times all over. Of course, had the Internet existed for all the public in 1987 and had I been a fan then, I might have had the same feelings about the Shakin' The Cage tour too. But right now I'd rather hear another version of Vito doing "Another Woman" than Buckingham playing the "Come" solo to the same effect for the nth time.

GypsySorcerer 08-13-2005 03:36 PM

1 - Time
 
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HomerMcvie 08-13-2005 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD
Say You Will tour. Too many extra musicians, without having Christine McVie (like on "The Dance").

No kidding! It took TEN musicians to take her place! :D

HejiraNYC 08-13-2005 04:28 PM

Round 1: Time Tour
 
Dave Mason? Bekka Bramlett? What the f*ck were they thinking? An absolute blight on the FM legacy that should be put in its place- the nearest rubbish bin.

Hippocampus 08-13-2005 04:44 PM

Round 1 - Time Tour
 
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Hippocampus 08-13-2005 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC
Dave Mason? Bekka Bramlett? What the f*ck were they thinking? An absolute blight on the FM legacy that should be put in its place- the nearest rubbish bin.

Heh... I think you're in for a round of abuse ;)

David 08-13-2005 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippocampus
Heh... I think you're in for a round of abuse ;)

Neh. It doesn't matter, & I would hope most people are tired of that particular war. People will like what they like, & hate what they hate -- & if that doesn't pass for profundity in Lower Possomtrot, I'll eat my hat!

I just wish the people who impale Bekka or Dave or other unpopular members of Fleetwood Mac on their verbal pikes didn't often turn around & yell at others who do the same thing to Stevie or Lindsey or Christine or Peter. It's the double standard that wears one down.

As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with saying that one of the Macsters belongs in the rubbish bin -- but don't cry when somebody else says the same thing about your beloved favorite. If you dish it out, learn to take it in equal measure. If you've ever posted anything insulting about any member of the band, you're really in no position to criticize someone else for doing so.

Serrart 08-13-2005 06:12 PM

Round 1 - Time Tour
 
I have nothing about Bekka or Dave or different FM incarnations (yes, even without Stevie), but to hear a boot form this tour was like visiting a dismissed ghost house. The mood was scarily depressing, IMO.

Romy

msLinds 08-13-2005 07:17 PM

Round 1: Time Tour
 
:wavey:



Its important to remember that nobody falls
into a simple set of labels.

michelle2677 08-13-2005 07:34 PM

Time Tour
 
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golden braid 08-13-2005 08:10 PM

Round 1 Time Tour
 
That was easy.

Hippocampus 08-14-2005 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with saying that one of the Macsters belongs in the rubbish bin -- but don't cry when somebody else says the same thing about your beloved favorite. If you dish it out, learn to take it in equal measure. If you've ever posted anything insulting about any member of the band, you're really in no position to criticize someone else for doing so.


I commend you for your words of wisdom which might yet stave off retaliatory and devastating bombardments. My scales are gleaming in appreciation.

Then again feuds and flames are the most entertaining to read. Please take into consideration the deletion of your post.

macfan 57 08-14-2005 05:56 AM

Round 1: Say You Will tour
 
Say You Will tour

See Homer & Steve's previous posts. ;)

Nightbird17 08-14-2005 09:50 AM

Time Tour
 
Goodbye baby

strandinthewind 08-14-2005 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
. . . I think Bekka's one of the best singers FM ever had.

Most def. But, she must be seen in comparison to CM and La Nicks and IMO she is the third there, though I LOVED Bekka's voice.


Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
AND, I voted SYW because neither one of them can hit any high notes anymore, and that's a turnoff, man....

I agree it was a turn off. But, I thought her rendition of Beautiful Child was hainting nonetheless and the two together on SG was one of the prettiest things I have ever seen or heard. In the end, I think SYW will go soon because of that and, more, importantly, because CM was not on that tour and I do not care if they had 40 backing musicians, her absence was glaring to me, though for what it was, it was a good show.

strandinthewind 08-14-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
No kidding! It took TEN musicians to take her place! :D


BWWHHAAAAAA :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: take that LB :laugh:

most were there on The Dance

HejiraNYC 08-14-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing wrong with saying that one of the Macsters belongs in the rubbish bin -- but don't cry when somebody else says the same thing about your beloved favorite. If you dish it out, learn to take it in equal measure. If you've ever posted anything insulting about any member of the band, you're really in no position to criticize someone else for doing so.

Thanks for sharing, David; I totally agree. :nod: And I am not into personal attacks of any current or past FM members either. And in that spirit, I am sure Bekka Bramlett is a wonderful, caring person who is lots of fun to be around as well. And I don't fault her for joining FM; I would have done the same thing if I had the chance, regardless of whether I had any talent or not. But to my ears, I find her voice to be about as pleasant as nails on a chalkboard. And when that same voice is used to thrash Stevie's songs on tour... :eek: that's just not acceptable.

HomerMcvie 08-14-2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
In the end, I think SYW will go soon because of that and, more, importantly, because CM was not on that tour and I do not care if they had 40 backing musicians, her absence was glaring to me, though for what it was, it was a good show.

For what it was.......I've not watched my SYW LIB TWICE yet. No Christine. No high notes. TOOOO many musicians. Same old in between song banter.
ZZZzzzzzzz..... :p

StevieNicksEO17 08-14-2005 01:26 PM

Definitely the Time tour!

Hawkeye 08-14-2005 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
For what it was.......I've not watched my SYW LIB TWICE yet. No Christine. No high notes. TOOOO many musicians. Same old in between song banter.
ZZZzzzzzzz..... :p

Ive watched LIB over 20 times since it was released.

David 08-14-2005 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Ive watched LIB over 20 times since it was released.

I watched it once, on PBS. I couldn't figure out the plot.

SteveMacD 08-14-2005 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC
Dave Mason? Bekka Bramlett? What the f*ck were they thinking?

Well, Dave Mason IS in the Hall of Fame (as a member of Traffic), and Bekka is one of the more sought after vocalists for many artists. Even Lindsey thought the incarnation had potential, so it wasn't that bad of an idea. FWIW, the "Time" tours (actually, pre-"Time" tours, to be more accurate, since they never toured behind the album) had the fewest musicians of any post-Mirage tour. And, the tickets were affordable!

SteveMacD 08-14-2005 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC
But to my ears, I find her voice to be about as pleasant as nails on a chalkboard. And when that same voice is used to thrash Stevie's songs on tour... :eek: that's just not acceptable.

The first time I saw Stevie live was in 1990. I was very disappointed in her performance. She looked and sounded like she was going to fall asleep, and she looked like hell. (We know why now, but at the time it was pretty off-putting, and I wasn't all that disappointed that she left.) So when Bekka joined, I felt she added new energy to the set. The only Stevie song that I ever saw her do was "Gold Dust Woman," and I guess my attitude is that if Hole can do the song, why not Bekka? Plus, I actually liked the new arrangement. It was SOOO refreshing, after the 87-90 versions. Actually, I would much rather she and Billy do a song like "Angel" or "I Don't Want To Know," but I would have been MORE offended if they didn't do ANY Stevie songs. It would be like she was never in the band.


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