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LiquidBlue5000 07-13-2005 12:48 AM

US and THEM!
 
I was having a discussion the other day with someone and i noticed a common theme amongst Stevie fans... i have realized that there are two very distinct types of fans out there: US and THEM

"US" fans and "THEM" fans enjoy Stevie in very different ways.. let me break it down a little, so you can see what i mean...



US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album

Them

does not love it at all


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL


US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows

THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album


US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead



of course, everyone is going to have their own personal preferences and not everyone is going to fit into either category in every way.. but if you had to identify with either "US" or "THEM", which would you be?

me? I'm one of "US" :nod:

jwd 07-13-2005 12:51 AM

Can we be US and THEM? :laugh:

diamondsnake 07-13-2005 12:52 AM

I'm an US!!!

Dreammms 07-13-2005 12:54 AM

"US" fans and "THEM" fans enjoy Stevie in very different ways.. let me break it down a little, so you can see what i mean...


US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums


THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite
-------------------------------------------------------------

US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album


Them

does not love it at all
---------------------------------------------------------------

US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL


THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL
--------------------------------------------------------------

US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976

-------------------------------------------------------------------

US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows


THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead
------------------------------------------------------------------

US

thinks "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"


THEM

thinks "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album
----------------------------------------------------------------

US

really likes "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

Not crazy about Maybe Love or Ghosts
-----------------------------------------------------------------

thepoetinmyhear 07-13-2005 01:11 AM

Wow, I am 4 to 3 an US so I guess I just barely qualify.

GardenStateGirlie 07-13-2005 01:14 AM

Apparently, i'm an US :nod:

estranged4life 07-13-2005 01:15 AM

Darn...
 
Thought maybe someone was goin' to discuss the classic Pink Floyd song "Us & Them" :shrug:

Btw, I am neither an US or THEM :nod:

darklinensuit 07-13-2005 01:16 AM

I'm an UM.
I fall under both.

- Jake

Dreammms 07-13-2005 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by estranged4life
Thought maybe someone was goin' to discuss the classic Pink Floyd song "Us & Them" :shrug:

Btw, I am neither an US or THEM :nod:


:lol: :lol: I swear every time I see this thread I sing that song.

diamondsnake 07-13-2005 01:27 AM

I'm a 100% us, which is weird because I normally disagree with everyone on this board.

darklinensuit 07-13-2005 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diamondsnake
I'm a 100% us, which is weird because I normally disagree with everyone on this board.

No you don't.
(Just proving your point. :) )

- Jake

diamondsnake 07-13-2005 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklinensuit
No you don't.
(Just proving your point. :) )

- Jake

Yes I do!!!!

:)

TheBlueLamp 07-13-2005 03:01 AM

I'm an US!....except I really love Greta as well.

GypsySorcerer 07-13-2005 03:14 AM

More of a "them." :wavey:

Wild_Heart03 07-13-2005 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklinensuit
I'm an UM.
I fall under both.

- Jake

lol, amen to that.... I fall equally on both sides.

trackaghost 07-13-2005 05:01 AM

Well to begin with I thought that was spot on (I'm a Them) but the last few are completely off. I'm definitely a Wild Heart gal although I love Bella Donna too.

ontheEdgeof17 07-13-2005 05:38 AM

I'm a Klonopin addict.

ShangriLaTroubl 07-13-2005 06:29 AM

I guess I'm in the category : "OTHERS" lol cuz I dont like much of RAL but love TOSOTM. I do prefer John Shanks production..I like the Planets demo and TISL version equally..do LOVE when she does stand back at shows..
However, I think Bella Donna is better than Wild Heart. I really like Love Changes, but not Sister Honey (hate it), and Maybe Love..."Greta" is ok, dont like "Affairs of the heart," but do like "Ghosts"

I dont think im an US or a THEM

eric51078 07-13-2005 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
I'm a Klonopin addict.


Well at least share with the rest of US! :]

I'm an US.

dissention 07-13-2005 08:20 AM

US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite (That would be Street Angel, but RAL is down there with it. :nod: )


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album (I do love it.)

Them

does not love it at all


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL (Most definitely. Shanks sucks.)


US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976 (Absolutely!)


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows

THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead (I'd spray my shorts.)


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna" (It is.)

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album


US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

(I like none of those songs.)

US = 2
THEM = 4

I suppose I'm a "them."

pattymarkle 07-13-2005 08:31 AM

Us Except for one question.

US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album

I love my Bella Donna. :p

Patty

Glittermoondust 07-13-2005 08:36 AM

I only agree with 2 US's--so I guess I'm a THEM....... :nod:

Amy

Mari 07-13-2005 08:52 AM

THEM rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite
US loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album
THEM prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL
THEM prefers the original demo from 1976
US loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows
THEM think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album
THEM prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

alright, 5 against 2, that's a pretty clear score. :D

nickslover2071 07-13-2005 09:09 AM

US
rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album

Them

does not love it at all


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

THEM
prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL


US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows

THEM
want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album


US
really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

US=3
THEM=4

I guess I'm a "Them" :D

jannieC 07-13-2005 09:21 AM

I'm definitely an US girl, with the exception of the Bella Donna/Wild Heart debate- that one I'm torn on.

HejiraNYC 07-13-2005 11:03 AM

I don't agree with the defined US and THEM breakdown; it is not consistent. I think the breakdown is along the lines of whether people prefer the dark, ethereal, haunting aspect of her music or the rocking, upbeat aspect. It's also along the lines of whether people prefer the younger voice (pre 1985) or the older voice.

So if US is defined as the people who prefer the younger voice and the more upbeat/rocking material, and THEM is defined as the people who prefer the mature voice with the more dark, ethereal, haunting material:

US
-Prefers the Rumours "Silver Springs" to the Dance "Silver Springs"
-Prefers the Fleetwood Mac Live 1980 "Landslide" to the Dance "Landslide"
-Prefers the Rumours "GDW" to the Dance "GDW"
-Prefers the POTU demo vs. the TISL version.
-Prefers Sheryl Crow vs. John Shanks on TISL
-Prefers "The Tower" demo to "Goodbye Baby"
-Prefers "The Wild Heart" vs. "Bella Donna"
-Hates the Street Angel album but likes "Rose Garden" and "Maybe Love"
-Did not care for much of Stevie's SYW songs
-Did not care for Rock a Little but likes "If I Were You" and "Some Become Strangers"
-Favorite Mirage song is "Gypsy."

THEM
-Prefers the Dance "Silver Springs" to the Rumours "Silver Springs"
-Prefers the Dance "Landslide" to any album version
-Prefers the Dance "GDW" to the Rumours "GDW"
-Prefers the TISL version of POTU vs. the demo
-Prefers John Shanks vs. Sheryl Crow on TISL
-Prefers "Goodbye Baby" to "The Tower"
-Likes much of the Street Angel album.
-Loved Stevie's SYW songs, especially "Destiny Rules" and "Illume"
-Loves Rock a Little
-Considers TISL to be one of her best albums
-Prefers Bella Donna to the Wild Heart
-Favorite Mirage song is "Straight Back"

I'm a proud THEM :nod: :wavey:

SapphireSister 07-13-2005 11:26 AM

I'm an US GIRL all the way! RAL RULES MY WORLD!!!

SapphireSister 07-13-2005 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC
I don't agree with the defined US and THEM breakdown; it is not consistent. I think the breakdown is along the lines of whether people prefer the dark, ethereal, haunting aspect of her music or the rocking, upbeat aspect. It's also along the lines of whether people prefer the younger voice (pre 1985) or the older voice.

So if US is defined as the people who prefer the younger voice and the more upbeat/rocking material, and THEM is defined as the people who prefer the mature voice with the more dark, ethereal, haunting material:

US
-Prefers the Rumours "Silver Springs" to the Dance "Silver Springs"
-Prefers the Fleetwood Mac Live 1980 "Landslide" to the Dance "Landslide"
-Prefers the Rumours "GDW" to the Dance "GDW"
-Prefers the POTU demo vs. the TISL version.
-Prefers Sheryl Crow vs. John Shanks on TISL
-Prefers "The Tower" demo to "Goodbye Baby"
-Prefers "The Wild Heart" vs. "Bella Donna"
-Hates the Street Angel album but likes "Rose Garden" and "Maybe Love"
-Did not care for much of Stevie's SYW songs
-Did not care for Rock a Little but likes "If I Were You" and "Some Become Strangers"
-Favorite Mirage song is "Gypsy."

THEM
-Prefers the Dance "Silver Springs" to the Rumours "Silver Springs"
-Prefers the Dance "Landslide" to any album version
-Prefers the Dance "GDW" to the Rumours "GDW"
-Prefers the TISL version of POTU vs. the demo
-Prefers John Shanks vs. Sheryl Crow on TISL
-Prefers "Goodbye Baby" to "The Tower"
-Likes much of the Street Angel album.
-Loved Stevie's SYW songs, especially "Destiny Rules" and "Illume"
-Loves Rock a Little
-Considers TISL to be one of her best albums
-Prefers Bella Donna to the Wild Heart
-Favorite Mirage song is "Straight Back"

I'm a proud THEM :nod: :wavey:

I'm an US in the original thread but much more of a THEM in this one (with the exception of loving her SYW songs, preferring BD to WH, and favoring Straight Back on Mirage). Something's off here!

diamondsnake 07-13-2005 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC
I don't agree with the defined US and THEM breakdown; it is not consistent. I think the breakdown is along the lines of whether people prefer the dark, ethereal, haunting aspect of her music or the rocking, upbeat aspect. It's also along the lines of whether people prefer the younger voice (pre 1985) or the older voice.

So if US is defined as the people who prefer the younger voice and the more upbeat/rocking material, and THEM is defined as the people who prefer the mature voice with the more dark, ethereal, haunting material:

US
-Prefers the Rumours "Silver Springs" to the Dance "Silver Springs"
-Prefers the Fleetwood Mac Live 1980 "Landslide" to the Dance "Landslide"
-Prefers the Rumours "GDW" to the Dance "GDW"
-Prefers the POTU demo vs. the TISL version.
-Prefers Sheryl Crow vs. John Shanks on TISL
-Prefers "The Tower" demo to "Goodbye Baby"
-Prefers "The Wild Heart" vs. "Bella Donna"
-Hates the Street Angel album but likes "Rose Garden" and "Maybe Love"
-Did not care for much of Stevie's SYW songs
-Did not care for Rock a Little but likes "If I Were You" and "Some Become Strangers"
-Favorite Mirage song is "Gypsy."

THEM
-Prefers the Dance "Silver Springs" to the Rumours "Silver Springs"
-Prefers the Dance "Landslide" to any album version
-Prefers the Dance "GDW" to the Rumours "GDW"
-Prefers the TISL version of POTU vs. the demo
-Prefers John Shanks vs. Sheryl Crow on TISL
-Prefers "Goodbye Baby" to "The Tower"
-Likes much of the Street Angel album.
-Loved Stevie's SYW songs, especially "Destiny Rules" and "Illume"
-Loves Rock a Little
-Considers TISL to be one of her best albums
-Prefers Bella Donna to the Wild Heart
-Favorite Mirage song is "Straight Back"

I'm a proud THEM :nod: :wavey:

In that case then I am a THEM.

KarmaContestant 07-13-2005 11:36 AM

I think I'm a THUS or an UM. I see the point of the 'us' and 'them' categorization, because there certainly is a division among Stevie fans over her material, but the line is so jagged, and goes in every direction......so that it becomes impossible to actually split everyone onto one side or the other. :shrug:

catinthedark 07-13-2005 11:38 AM

I am 5-2 an Us.

I do not love TOSOTM - I don't hate it, per say, but I don't love it.

And I prefer the No Light demo. :nod:

The Tower 07-13-2005 11:49 AM

US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album

Them

does not love it at all


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL


US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows

THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album


US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead


US

tend to be queenie, chiffon-head, dance-in-front-of-the-tee vee-wearing-a-blanket-as-faux-shawl-while-watching-"Edge of 17" gay guys

THEM

anyone who disagrees with "Us" ;) :laugh:


So, it looks like I'm one vote shy of boogieing down with my afghan....

dissention 07-13-2005 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower
US

tend to be queenie, chiffon-head, dance-in-front-of-the-tee vee-wearing-a-blanket-as-faux-shawl-while-watching-"Edge of 17" gay guys

THEM

anyone who disagrees with "Us" ;) :laugh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'm proud to be "Them," then.

KateTheCursed 07-13-2005 12:29 PM

US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite

I've tried for years to find a groove on "Rock A Little" and just can't do it. It's weird because I like most of the individual songs, but as a cohesive whole it's abhorent.


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album

Not my favorite (I think it's probably her most carbon dated album as far as the sound goes), but I certainly love it more than I hate it.

Them

does not love it at all


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

I really liked some of the tracks by both producers, but I guess I fall more on the John Shanks line becuase I don't really dislike any of the tracks he produced. The same can't be said for Sheryl.

THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL


US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

So hard to decide. They're both brilliant in their own way. I adore the build up and delivery of the "don't condescend to me line" and the slow jazzy burn of the orginal. But I also love the build up and delivery of "If I had my life to live over, I would never dream." Plus the TISL version has all those wonderful added lyrics. TISL version, but just barely.

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows

Oh definitely. I was indifferent to the song before I saw it live. Now I love it. As long as she's able to pull it off, "Stand Back" is one staple that should never leave the set list.

THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album

Most days I prefer "The Wild Heart" but I do believe that "Bella Donna" is the better album.


US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

Ugh! How am I supposed to answer that? LOL I love "Greta" and Ghosts," but I also love "Love Changes" and "Maybe Love." I can't. In this regard, I'm neither US nor THEM. I'm Switzerland.


So what? I guess that makes me one of "US," but I really get where "THEY" are coming from. :)

amber 07-13-2005 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=LiquidBlue5000]Ha, that was interesting. Good job.



US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album

Them

does not love it at all


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL (I don't know who did what) :shrug:


US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"


THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976 (like them both)


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows


THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album



US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead


Looks like I'm a bit THUS.

dudden22 07-13-2005 12:38 PM

US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite

Street Angel is my least favorite.

US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album It's Ok

Them

does not love it at all


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL

US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows It would not be right without it.

THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"

THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album

I like both equally


US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

I don't like any of these songs.

US 3

Them 1

Neither 3

I guess I am in the grey area.

sparky 07-13-2005 01:00 PM

US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums


Them

does not love it at all

US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL


THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows

US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"


US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

Prefer NONE of them.

And in Tower additional question, I am a them.

Us - 4

Them - 3

Neither - 1

I guess I am a Bi-Curious George on this one, folks.

LiquidBlue5000 07-13-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower

US
tend to be queenie, chiffon-head, dance-in-front-of-the-tee vee-wearing-a-blanket-as-faux-shawl-while-watching-"Edge of 17" gay guys

:lol: how did u know? :p

Dark Angel 07-13-2005 01:27 PM

US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums


THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album

Them

does not love it at all (I'm somewhere in between on this one.)


US

prefers John Shanks production on TISL

THEM

prefers Sheryl Crow's production on TISL


US

prefers the TISL version of "Planets Of The Universe"

THEM

prefers the original demo from 1976


US

loves when Stevie performs "Stand Back" live at her shows

THEM

want her to drop "Stand Back" and do "Violet And Blue" instead


US

think "The Wild Heart" album is better than "Bella Donna"


THEM

think "Bella Donna" is better than "The Wild Heart" album


US

really like "Sister Honey", "Love Changes", and "Maybe Love"

THEM

prefers "Greta", "Affairs Of The Heart", and "Ghosts" instead

None of the above.



US = 3
THEM = 2
IN BETWEEN = 1
None Of The Above = 1

chiliD 07-13-2005 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000
I was having a discussion the other day with someone and i noticed a common theme amongst Stevie fans... i have realized that there are two very distinct types of fans out there: US and THEM

"US" fans and "THEM" fans enjoy Stevie in very different ways.. let me break it down a little, so you can see what i mean...



US

rank the "Rock A Little" album as one of their top 3 favorite Stevie albums

THEM

rank the "Rock A Little" album as their least favorite


US

loves "The Other Side Of The Mirror" album

Them

does not love it at all
:


Well, that puts me in one camp for one album and the other for the other. So, immediately I think your definitions of "US" & "THEM" are questionable.


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