the Rick Turner guitar
 

I believe if memory serves me right, that Lindsey switched to this model for the Tusk Tour,and has used it ever since. I'm curious as to the reason that he made this choice, and why he's been so loyal to it. I'm more curious about it, not being critical. :D

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interesting. I wonder how much one costs. I'm sure Lindseys version aint cheap

The Rick Turner Model 1.

As far as I can recall Lindsey got three of the original Model 1 guitars between 1979 and 1981. These were complemented by another two around 1997. One of these was replaced in 2003 and in 2004 Lindsey chose another one from a set of three Rick offered him.

Rick met Lindsey initially during the Rumours recordings when he worked for Alembic (John McVie used their Basses), Lindsey needed a guitar that would cut through the sound of the band. They were so loud and Lindsey's Les Paul Custom was getting somewhat lost in the sound. Rick set about designing a guitar that would give more clarity but with the same amount of depth as the Les Paul and Lindsey got the Model 1 around the time of the Tusk recordings and used it on the subsequent tour.

Lindsey uses a basic Model 1, no tone chambers to save weight, he has a full solid mahogany body on his which gives his distinctive thicker tone. The guitar controls consist of a master volume knob, a passive tone control knob (which lifts up to split the pickup coils to give a cleaner "Strat" type sound), a flick switch to activate the parametric equaliser (which basically changes the sound of the guitar), a sweep control knob for the equaliser and finally a 12db cut/boost knob..

The type of Model 1 Lindsey uses is a Model 1-CLB. Although I myself have a Model 1-CLBP which is basically the same but with a Piezo and blender knob to give the guitar an acoustic tone too which extends the tonal possibilities further.

Not sure what Rick's current list price is for a standard Model 1, haven't spoken to him for about a year but you would probably be looking around the $4500-$5000 area. Unless you wanted a customised version which of course would cost more.

Check out www.renaissanceguitars.com for more details.. You can email Rick directly from the site too..

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What he said...


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Lindsey's Les Paul's design (not so much "sound") didn't really lend itself to his fingerpicking style. The Model 1's design was more condusive to being played fingerstyle. Plus, with the onboard parametric EQ, Lindsey had more tonal variations at his command. He could get his LP tone and with a sweep of the EQ, he could make it sound like a Fender Telecaster. Also, he could crank up the gain on the EQ for a simple overdriven sound that eliminated the use of footpedals (at least for THAT tone...he has footpedals for other effects).

From the February 1979 issue of Rolling Stone magazine (via Les' Madness Fades site):

Before I joined Fleetwood Mac, I used a Fender Telecaster because it suited by finger-picking style. I wanted to use a Fender onstage when we first started playing live, but it didn’t fit into the texture of the piano sounds Christine [McVie] was getting, so I switched to a Gibson Les Paul. While a Telecaster sounds great from three feet away, the Les Paul sounds beefier to anyone sitting in the back of the hall.

And from the September 1997 issue of Guitar World (also via Les' Madness Fades site):

It was while Fleetwood Mac were recording Tusk that Rick brought the plans for the first one [Turner Model 1] down to the Village. Rick had worked for Alembic before then, but all the Alembic designs he brought me seemed too sterile. They had too much parametric EQ and were always heavy and didn't seem to me to play very nicely. So I told Rick, “Try to make me a guitar somewhere between those Alembics and the Les Paul I'm using.” He came up with a simpler design and brought those down while we were recording Tusk. I started using them on stage after the Tusk album was out. They were really suited to my style, because they had a little cleaner, more even sound than the Les Paul. A little more mature sound, if you will; more clearly articulated. It had tonal elements that I'd been missing ever since my Fender days.

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Thanks alot guys for the information. It's always great to learn something new. :)

:cool: That guitar is not only very beautiful, it also has a sweet tone, and you can play anything from jazz to rock to blues with it.

www.edromanguitars.com, he has a few in stock

Screw that, get it direct from Rick Turner at Renaissance Guitars. The guy will cut you a sweeter deal, AND he is very very nice.

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SO who is this Rick Turner guy? was he ever in a band? how did he get into making guitars and get so good at it? I apologize if I sound ignorant, but I've always been curious as to his musical origins

An Interview with Rick Turner (from his website)

Rick Turner used to work for Alembic making basses and guitars I believe. From what I remember he met Lindsey thru a friend, and Lindsey had asked him to create a guitar for him...a cross between a "Les Paul and an acoustic guitar" and Rick took it from there.

I dont think Rick has ever been in a band, but he does play guitar. I had a long chat with him on the phone about 2 yrs ago when I was considering buying one of his custom Model 1's...

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Wow, that's really interesting. I would love to talk to someone like that, someone with great knoledge of the instrument to edcucate a dummy like me. :woohoo:

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what a facinating interview, thank you very much for providing the link. :)

just ask your questions. me gets re-educated too. if noone knows on this board, no-one knows at all.this community knows more about FM then FM.

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Well, I just wish I wouldve joined here sooner.... :) I sure missed out

I believe he used to play bass for Ian & Sylvia (a 60's folk duo)...and a couple of other "known" bands. Can't remember off the top of my head, though.

...and one of these days I WILL own my own Model 1 ala Lindsey's Tusk days! Hell, the band I've been playing with for the last 2 yrs is ready to chalk up some cash to help me buy one so I'll stop bitching about NOT having one!!

It's just an example of a dealer that has them in stock and I already knew that, 'cause within max. 2 or 3 years I'm gonna buy one. And are you always so polite ?

The comment was made in a joking but helpful manner. I wasn't being impolite in any way. Do you always get your panties in a wad so easily Jr?

Nope, not at all. No offense, none taken :p

Awesome. Good times.

Yes, and btw, it is the most beautiful guitar that I've ever seen or heard.

Yeah I have played one before. They are amazing...it played like a dream. I have been wanting one for some time, but havent been able to set aside that much cash. Rick Turner is pretty good about consignment though...he told me iif I put $500 down then I could pay him monthly payments of $200 until I paid the guitar off. Although, the need for a new car wa7.s more pressing...but eventually I will get one. I think I'd rather have an older model though...maybe one from 1992-97.

Someday, I hope my music room will look like this...

http://www.edromanguitars.com/resour.../grprenxx1.jpg


...but, for now, it's "one down & twenty to go"

Here's the "one":

http://www.renaissanceguitars.com/Ga...e%207-4-99.JPG

Totally useless info, but as I was sitting here reading this thread, GYOW came on the radio! :thumbsup:

But yours has that really cool darkening around the edge. How do they do that, with stain?

Holy crap Chili you're huge. That guitar looks like a 3/4 guitar strapped on ya! Yeah I want to get my Model one to look like the one Linsey was playing on "The Chain" on the Dance dvd.

Its called a sunburst finish. Rick can custom any top you want when he makes you a model one. I actually was thinking about getting an all-white top on it like the Les Paul customs.

It's just the angle of the photo, I think...I'm not THAT "huge".

http://www.renaissanceguitars.com/Ga...39/guitars.JPG http://www.renaissanceguitars.com/Ga...rmal_s%7E0.jpg

It's interesting how the finish looks different depending on the lighting & camera angle...same guitar, but the finish looks completely different.

I'd thought about an all-black one with a white pickup & tailpiece. Rick never responded to my post at the Renaissance message board when I asked him if he made white or cream colored pickups.

The model 1 is quite a small bodied guitar anyway, it is a very nice instrument. I've played 3 Model 1's (well, more if you kind of count Lindsey's from Earls Court and Manchester that I strummed), and Ian Morton, the UK distributor gave me the choice of two instruments when I purchased mine.

They have a great sound and the Model 1 is a very unique instrument but I tend to prefer guitars built by John Suhr personally because the feel, playability and sound suit my style more..

If you live in the States, I would recommend dealing with Rick personally. He can sort you out for sure..

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Yeah, but same is your finish: look at the diffent color of your skin! :lol:
The angle of the stagephoto makes you bigger definately, but still, you with a turner looks like Lindsey with a ukelele! ;)

By the way, you look incredible :cool: :cool: :cool:

One thing to note about the Turner is Lindsey does not use it too often in the studio. Strats and Teles seem to be his electrics of choice when recording. I am sure their are examples of where he used the Turner in studio, but he puts down most of the electric parts with his collection of Fenders.

True! And, as on "Oh Diane", an "f-hole" Gretch.

That's the beauty of the M1. It can recreate for stage the tonality of a wide variety of guitars without having to change guitars every song (ala Tom Petty & Mike Campbell).

You can blame that on the red stage lights. :nod: :)

Well, yeah, I guess I'm definitely a bit bigger than Jeremy Spencer, that's for sure! :lol:


:o :o Thanks...my wife thinks so, too. She's the one who worked her magic on Rick Turner to have my M1 made (when, at the time, Rick wasn't even going to start a Model 1 waiting list for at least a year, much less MAKE them)...she talked him into making that one specially for me (without my knowledge! It was a wedding present!) It is pretty much a one-of-a-kind...personally signed by Rick.

Not only a :cool: guy with a :cool: Turner, but with a VERY :cool: girl beside him too!

.....some guys have all the luck. ;)

Now, talking about one lucky bastard :nod: :cool: :blob2:

Yeah I didnt mean you were HUGE Chili...you know as in fat...you're just a big guy. That guitar is dwarfed by your...stature. Better now? Didn't want to insinuate that you're a fatso. Which youre not.

I thought you played fingerstyle like Lindsey CHILI...? Looks like you were playing with a pick in the photos.

I understood...just making a joke at my own expense! (actually, I AM...those are old photos! :lol: )

I can play either way; it really depends on the material...I prefer a pick though. It took me a while to get the hang of using a pick on the Turner. Like I was committing some cardinal sin by using one. But, then I thought, "Hey, this is MY guitar, not Lindsey's, I'll play it how I want to"; as if there was some "Law Of The Turner" that I HAD to change 30 years of how I played because of the TYPE of guitar I was playing? No way.