What's up with the ticket sales??
 

Ok, so i keep hearing about how the first two "Gold Dust" shows didn't sell well... That there were literally empty sections all over the place in both Cleveland and Grand Rapids... are people losing interest in seeing Stevie play live?? :shrug:

The "Two Voices" shows sold very well (with the exception of Mansfield where they were literally giving away tickets for free to fill up the venue)... but perhaps most of those sales or at least half of those sales were from Don/Eagles fans?? Maybe because she is not promoting a thing on this tour, people aren't interested in going to see her? :confused:

two words ... TICKET PRICES :shocked: The best seats for cleveland were $125.00 Im sure a lot more people would go if tix were affordable

I think besides....
 

pricey tickets it could very well be that most people do not like to attend a concert unless an artist is on tour to promote a new studio release/project.....Cause otherwise you get tagged with the dreaded "Nostalgic Act" label, Which can sometimes be the kiss of death for a tour.

Yeah, actually I'm sure it's the prices. Stevie's most expensive shows for me before were about $85 (that was TISL in Boston if I recall). Now she has raised that another $45 dollars, more than 50% which is a bit much if she's not promoting something and thus has little to no press.

Like I've been trying to say all along I think in general it is a mistake to tour with nothing to promote and having just saturated the market with a 2 year Fleetwood Mac tour.If she wanted to do this smaller venues of maybe 5,000 -7,000 seats would have been a good idea and with lower ticket prices.I even know some die hard fans who are sitting this one out which is not a good sign.I did not plan on going myself but with all the good reviews and the covers I 'll probably go if some really good seats come up for Concord before the show.She really does look great in the pictures posted on here and she seems to be having a good time unlike on TISL and alot of the SYW shows too.But if some of the people I would consider die hards that have not missed a tour in decades are not going this tiime out it does not bode well for ticket sales.

Personally, I think she's touring too close to the SYW tour. That was a very long tour and they hit a lot of cities twice. I think a lot of people figured they've already seen her recently, perhaps, twice in two years. Plus ticket prices don't help. Maybe if Stevie had put out a new solo album and then toured in maybe a year, the response would have been better.

Yep, a combination of market saturation and ticket prices. She played Cleveland, for example, in 2001, 2003 and 2004 (with Fleetwood Mac and solo). I like BombaySapphire3's idea of doing smaller venues (e.g. House of Blues-type places) -- that would have been a great idea. Then I think she could have gotten away with these high ticket prices.
Honestly, I don't think people are willing to pay as much to see Stevie solo as with Fleetwood Mac, and these prices are just as high as SYW.

All good points....

Also, summer is concert season - most people can only afford to attend a few shows at the most-especially if they have to travel. If I was a modest Stevie fan, I'd opt for seeing someone I've never seen before. But that's just me. :shrug:

That and the fact that the front row seats, GREAT seats are all reserved, can't get them until maybe the day of the show or pay broker or ebay prices. They just aren't releasing great seats right off the bat, and pisses people off like me! And then there's TicketB@#$%^&*(!

I haven't been to many concerts at all, but I remember paying $70 for a third or fourth row seat to a YANNI :shocked: concert back in 1997!! So when Stevie's tix were priced at $85-$125 at the Cleveland show, it honestly didn't seem that expensive. How much were the tickets at TISL? I'm curious to see how much more these were.

It probably would've been better if she had an album to promote or took a year off after SYW, but selfishly I'm glad she didn't. :lol:

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You hit the nail on the head about the lack of a new album in my opinion. I'm always glad when she or Fleetwood Mac goes out on the road, but I REALLY don't want it to disintigrate into an Eagles thing where all they do is tour with the same material. I think Fleetwood Mac and Stevie have earned a measure of integrity by not doing that.

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Right on with that last sentence. I almost SH## when I saw the CLeveland prices. I know Stevie herself probabl doesnt have much to do with pricing, but whichever one of her "People" did should get his or her ass canned on the spot

Not only that - but she is not playing anything but her same old set list, with the exception of Circle Dance and Rock and Roll. I think many people are loathe to shell out beaucoup bucks to see essentially the same songs or, to put it another way, pay $100 to see her do two covers.

Bingo. :nod:

She has done like 200 dates in the last couple of years and most people have already seen her at least once on tour recently. I am even considering not seeing this show just because my bank account is drained from the Vegas and SYW shows. She is doing two Florida dates. Under normal circumstances, I would go to both shows. But if I can't get great seats, I will pass because it is pretty much the same setlist as Vegas...

So, for me at least, the reason is hight ticket prices for crappy seats. I'm not going if I have to sit out on the lawn! I've been checking ticket master daily and I have not seen any Floor seats for the shows I want to go to. So it just isn't worth it unless I can get some decent seats.

I also think these will be more isolated incidents, rather than a whole tour...There were quite a few trouble spots on the "Trouble in Shangri La Tour" in terms of ticket sales, even with a brand new album out, tv specials, and the whole thing. Her Cincinatti, Bristow, Raleigh, and Virginia Beach shows had very low sales in 2001..and most markets were not sold out...

I think as she starts to move out to the west coast the sales will pick up a lot too

Chris

If all of these shows are selling poorly, why doesn't she do smaller venues like Caesar's Palace, House of Blues, etc? She could even do intimate clubs. At least that way, her shows would "sell out" even if that only meant 3,000 tickets were sold.

Im a diehard and im stepping out
 

I consider myself a diehard fan. I am not going to these shows because of the set list. I saw the henley/nicks show in MA and that was enough. Shes had the same set for seven years. This set list is very disappointing. Woo hoo two covers, why do covers when she has so many gems she could pull out on her own.

ehhhh, she needs to do more rarities.

It really would not matter what "rarities" she pulled out, some would complain. If she started doing "Alice" I would be complaining, if she started doing "Storms" you would probably complain Jimmy..

It has been so unchanging, and we all have seen her so damned many times that two new songs is miraculous. Of course, other artists are more adventurous...but for Stevie 2 new songs is a big deal ! Far better than a stick in the eye and more than I was expecting. I may even go now.

Of course it's a big deal, but worth the cash it most certainly ****ing isn't. But you don't pay, anyway, so have fun. :laugh: :xoxo:

SHE HAS OVERSATURATED THE MARKET! Plain and simple.

Depends on how you determine worth...it might not be worth it to you, but it is plenty worth it to me. I wouldn't pay the money if I didn't feel it was worth the money. I don't go just because I like to support Stevie's bank account. I feel I'm getting every bit of my money's worth

Chris

You know, I was thinking this morning about what Stevie said awhile back about her not thinking a lot of her songs for many years were "memorable." I wonder if that's why she sticks to the same old tired ****, because she doesn't care to really perform a great deal of her material from '86-'94 that she finds sub-par.

I'm glad you think so and I hope you enjoy the show(s). Personally, I'm far too frugal and tight to spend all that money just to hear two "new" songs, and even if I wasn't and did spend all that steak, I'd still feel as if I was throwing my money away. :laugh:

that is because you are never happy and hate everything :eek: :p :p :p

I don't understand how you can consider yourself to be a die-hard fan and skip an entire tour. Even if she played the same 10 songs over and over I would never miss an opportunity to see her live and be in her presence for even just a few hours. There is nothing like the feeling of having Stevie sing for me, it's like a high. Sure I'd like to see her mix it up a bit but hearing that voice is so special to me, beyond words. She's not going to be around forever. Ok maybe money is an issue but I make sacrifices for the love of Stevie my God!!

I dont even think Dissention would consider himself "DIE HARD" lol

Chris

Of course not, he's only a "die hard" Debbie fan ;)

I'd call myself a die hard fan of her pre-1986 stuff. Everything after that is very spotty. ;)

How can I skip an entire tour? Easy. I don't want to waste my money. I've experienced her presence many times over and she sang the same songs, I'm not missing anything. Her twirls don't make me spray my shorts and instead of seeing her sing Rhiannon for the millionth time, I'll save my steak for if Lindsey ever does some solo shows.

I would suggest you invest that money in some long term bonds. I suspect you'd be safe with something along the lines of 5 years :nod:

My thoughts exactly :xoxo: , I only wish I had the money to go to more shows!

~Marissa~

And that's where we differ - I could never see Stevie performing live as a waste of money, no matter what her state of being is or what songs she sings. Sure she wasn't in top performance mode for several of my SYW shows but it was still an amazing feeling to be in her presence. It's a treat to me no matter what and I know that a lot of people share your sentiment, I'm just not one of them.

I agree and I would go if she came here. But, I probably will not fly across the country to see her on this leg because then it becomes do I want to spend probably $1,000 to hear her sing Rock and Roll - the song. That is a lot of money for one song good though it may be.

I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive her highest ticket price is $75 here in North Carolina. Anyway, I'm such a retard that I would go to see her play the same stuff over and over. Stevie could get up and fart onstage, and I'd go.

well she doesnt perfrom anything after 86, so you should be very happy :laugh:

so in other words you just want to keep your steak forever? :laugh:

I would pay $200 to see "Storms". I will never understand why she does not perform this song. It is a hell of lot better than "Enchanted or OTR"

Now I can understand not wanting to fly somewhere and spend $1000 to see her but if she is anywhere near your city and you miss a tour that is unexcusable for a so called "die hard". You're off the hook, Jason :p

And I'd be right next to you!!