Is anyone planning on doing Bit Torrent when they get their stevie dvd?
 

Just wondering if anyone is planning on uploading the Phili show or any others? I am trying to decide if I should buy the dvd from the e-bay guy. Thanks

I know someone...
 

who has mentioned they will upload the Philly DVD to a torrent website once they have received their copy....So if this happens soon I would just hold onto my $$$ and take the torrent.

I know who it is... he should have it within a day or two.. he told me that he is going to torrent it as well... so we shall see :nod:

That's good to know. Thanks :wavey:

Woohoo!
 

OH GOD THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!! I'm just dying for a recent DVD!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU to whoever will be torrenting! :xoxo: :blob2:

What's Torrent?

an ancient chinese secret used to prevent people who record shows to no longer be able to "trade" for them.. :p

What is it really Brian??

it's a website where you can download full shows... i don't "torrent" myself, but i know many people who do.. apparently it takes forever and a day to upload a show.. but hey, i guess it's a nice gesture on their part :shrug:

What a waste of time. I'd rather just trade. And also if you download it you have to put it on a disk to watch it on tv and that's another whole process.

Actually it is a form of downloading / uploading / sharing of shows in a lossless format. Yes it can take awhile to download shows, but there is no loss in quality. The tracks are in .wav form not mp3.

Here's a site that should answer all your questions. It's actually kind of cool the way it works.. but it can take awhile to wrap your head around.. but once you get it, it works pretty simply.

http://dessent.net/btfaq/

It doesn't take long at all. I've uploaded complete shows in two hours flat. And you can just leave your client running in the background while you do other things.

Well,.. i don't usually have two hours to waste on uploading/downloading just one show.. i think i'd rather trade for it.. burn 2 CD's, takes 5 minutes.. i doubt anyone can really notice a difference in sound quality of a ripped AUD show vs. a downloaded AUD show anyway... Torrents is more for people who don't have a big collection of shows.. for those people, it's a good way to get stuff for free..

You're not wasting two hours, you can leave your computer on when you're not using it or just let the client run in the background while you're using your computer. And it's not for people without a big collection, it's the people with big collections who breathe life into torrents. Without them, half the **** that's out there would never see the light of day. Where the hell else are you going to find old soundboard recordings of Ike and Tina or rare and uncirculated Stevie/Mac shows? I know that if bit torrents had never been invented, I never would have shared some of the stuff I have for the simple fact that so many out there like to butcher bootlegs when they get their paws on them. It's a good way to get quality stuff without the hassle of burning stuff, dealing with traders, going to the post office, and waiting to get your stuff in the mail.

Half?? you sure about that? I recorded 10 shows this year, and 7 of them i have put out in circulation via trade, not torrent... as far as i know, only 3 other people have recorded QUALITY audio from the 2005 shows.. Most of them, including mine were available via trade only... sure, some shows are put out on torrents which are excellent quality.. but to imply half is exxaggerating just a bit...

right.. but it is time consuming and my point remains that you would not be able to distinguish the difference between an AUD recording via burned CD or an AUD recording via torrents... it's not as if the world of torrents has introduced dozens of soundboard recordings that were never before heard.. for those who don't trade on a regular basis, yes.. for those who do, no..

I was speaking about bootlegs in general.

Respectfully, that's bull****. :angel:

I couldn't count on my hands the uncirculated soundboards and recordings that I've gotten via torrents. I never introduced any soundboards myself, but I circulated two recordings that never saw the light of day and that's what makes bit torrents so great; you get to hear stuff that no one has ever circulated before.

it's the Napster for bootlegs... you can buy CD's or you can download them... it's more economical to download vs. buying CD's of course.. but it cost no more to trade than it does to download from torrents (maybe a few extra cents for postage and CD-R's)..

Torrents is fine.. but it's not the end all for quality recocordings..

It is when it comes to Mac/Stevie/Lindsey shows. Most bootleg traders out there won't even touch their boots with a ten foot pole because Mac fans don't take care of the recordings and the quality is utter crap in comparison to most other artists. That's an accepted fact.

Another great thing about these bittorent sites is that you can get DVDs. Brian J. does DVDs and so do a few other traders, but not that many. Plus, you're guaranteed that they're lossless. Bittorrents are AWESOME!

In a way that is true..
 

but it also helps those who are just starting out to build a larger collection. When I first started collecting I had only about 3 traders who helped me out (Sara M., Jennifer G. & Brianna, Who is no longer an active trader) cause otherwise I was left to try to obtain bootlegs via eBay :eek:

I trade people for discs that are currently available on torrents on a regular basis since I don't have a PC to be able to download (Or upload) shows myself...I have found great sounding shows on torrents (Non-Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks related) that I might not have been able to obtain elsewhere.

I also continue to trade music too which is also fine, I see no difference in trading vs. torrent, Both accomplish the same goal, Getting the music out to the fans!!!

no, you are mistaken.. yes, some of the earlier Stevie/Mac shows were/are "crap".. but anything from 2001- present day is pretty top quality..

well said and i agree...

Not by a long shot.

then i guess you don't have much of current Stevie/Mac collection...

I have plenty and a lot of it is crap and has been polluted by people trading MP3s.

well, yeah, if all you do is download your shows, i would imagine it would sound like crap.. try trading for shows in the future, this way you can get a better quality recording :xoxo:

Gee, you think? I don't download **** MP3 shows, I trade for shows and it's the asses that download MP3s who burn them to disc for trades and try to pass them off as just regular copies. Mac traders don't take care of their bootlegs.

Well, i take care of mine... and funny, i dont recall doing any current trades with you for any of my 7 shows that i have offered... which means, either you dont collect the amount of shows you claim you do, or you are getting these shows from another source.. if that is the case, then you are getting a copy of a copy.. the more copies made, the less quality you have, thus a "crap" recording...

I haven't traded for any of the new shows from the Two Voices tour because I don't want them right now and don't have the time to trade boots. I've got the DVD audios of the Vegas shows and that's all I need at the moment. And since when is quality lost when you make an exact copy of a disc? It's not, unless you burn at a speed higher than 2x or 4x and phuck it up with diginoise and litter it with recording flaws.

right.. just wait for them to be torrented :rolleyes:

Mommy. Daddy. Please stop fighting.



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Sure, it's more convenient and takes less time. :D

convenient for you, sure.. a person who thinks burning a CD is such a time consuming task..

I agree with Brian J. There's no reason for conflict. Both are valuable. Bittorrenting is great for those who don't have anything to trade, who don't want to wait 2 weeks for their shows to arrive, or who want stuff they can't find on many trade sites like DVDs. Old-fashioned trading is great because at this point, the shows that are being torrented are only a small percentage of what's out there, and trading opens you up to more. I do both, and I am grateful for both. It's all good!

Yup. :woohoo:

great attitude... you know, if everyone had that same attitude, there would be nothing for you to download... i mean, why should anyone risk getting caught by security at a show and having their equipment confiscated when they can just sit in front of a computer screen all day and wait for something to "show up"? :rolleyes:

You obviously have no idea what bit torrents are all about.

you're right.. i have no clue whatsoever.. none.. :rolleyes:

but maybe you can enlighten me on the essence of bit torrents, so i can somehow "understand"..

Maybe some other time, I don't feel like it right now. :wavey:

AMEN TO THAT! Most bootlegs of FM and Stevie sound like mush...such a shame...torrents ARE a blessing! :angel: