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DavidMn 06-08-2005 04:30 PM

Love minus zero
 
I was just curious if anyone has heard Bob Dylans original version of this song? I can't imagine it's much better thaN Lindsey's Version. that song should have been on SYW!!!!!! the only reason I think it might not have been is because it was a cover.

chiliD 06-08-2005 05:06 PM

Oh, yeah...Dylan's is fantastic...after all, it IS the original version, right? "Better" is just personal taste. Actually, Lindsey's version is very similar to the Byrds' version.

Another really good version of the song is Eric Clapton's from the live 30th Anniversary Tribute to Bob Dylan.

darklinensuit 06-08-2005 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Oh, yeah...Dylan's is fantastic...after all, it IS the original version, right? "Better" is just personal taste. Actually, Lindsey's version is very similar to the Byrds' version.

I agree.
And I like Lindsey's version, though I wish his vocal were not so tame.
BTW, I think Lindsey & Stevie songs should be on Mac albums only when you can hear both their vocals in the song. :shrug: JMO

- Jake

SteveMacD 06-08-2005 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Oh, yeah...Dylan's is fantastic...after all, it IS the original version, right? "Better" is just personal taste. Actually, Lindsey's version is very similar to the Byrds' version.

On what album did the Byrds do "Love Minus Zero"? I have all of their albums, and didn't see it listed. :shrug:

Jyqm 06-08-2005 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I was just curious if anyone has heard Bob Dylans original version of this song?

Oh my. I'm curious if very many people haven't heard Dylan's original. If you haven't, for shame! What you've been doing all these years, living your life without a copy of Bringing It All Back Home, sure is beyond me.

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I can't imagine it's much better thaN Lindsey's Version.
For someone as fond of risk-taking (at least in the studio) as Lindsey, I was really surprised by how tame, predictable and almost boring his cover of "Love Minus Zero" is. His arrangement is awfully MOR (especially at the end, coming back to the first verse with just the guitar strumming), and he doesn't really sing the lyrics with much feeling. That said, his performance of the song at the AFI show (dedicated to George Harrison), is a bit more moving. But overall I think his Rolling Stones covers - "Gotta Get Away," "She Smiled Sweetly," "The Singer Not The Song" - are a whole lot better.

Jyqm 06-08-2005 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Another really good version of the song is Eric Clapton's from the live 30th Anniversary Tribute to Bob Dylan.

And Clapton's "Don't Think Twice" from the same show is just mind-blowing.

chiliD 06-08-2005 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD
On what album did the Byrds do "Love Minus Zero"? I have all of their albums, and didn't see it listed. :shrug:

Yeah...I just went through their catalog at CD Universe and couldn't find it...but, I definitely have seen/heard Roger McGuinn singing the song. Maybe I have it on a bootleg...I'll check when I get home.

Did Roger take the lead vocal on it during Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue tour, maybe?

Jyqm 06-08-2005 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Did Roger take the lead vocal on it during Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue tour, maybe?

I believe Dylan did "Love Minus Zero" solo and acoustic on the Rolling Thunder Revue tour. Beautiful performance of the song on the Bootleg Series Vol. 5.

dissention 06-08-2005 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I believe Dylan did "Love Minus Zero" solo and acoustic on the Rolling Thunder Revue tour. Beautiful performance of the song on the Bootleg Series Vol. 5.

Vol. 5 is a beautiful performance altogether. That one's my personal favorite out of all the selections in the Bootleg Series. The clip of Isis from Renaldo and Clara on the bonus DVD that came with it is utterly fabulous, too.

GardenStateGirlie 06-08-2005 07:14 PM

I'm not a Dylan fan (I think he writes well, I just don't much care for his voice) but I think Lindsey's cover is excellent. I hope someday he performs it live...whenever that will be :distress:

Jyqm 06-08-2005 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
I'm not a Dylan fan (I think he writes well, I just don't much care for his voice) but I think Lindsey's cover is excellent. I hope someday he performs it live...whenever that will be :distress:

He did! As I mentioned in a previous post, he performed it with Mick at one of Stevie's AFI benefit concerts in December 2001 and dedicated the song to George Harrison who had passed away a week or so prior. I'm listening to it right now, and as I remembered, it's quite a bit better than the studio recording, which I find pretty listless. Lindsey invests a whole lot more in his vocal and his playing, and Mick's sparse percussion adds a nice twist. Lindsey conflates two verses at the end, but somehow it works and the performance ends up being very moving.

Shoot me an e-mail...

GardenStateGirlie 06-08-2005 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
He did! As I mentioned in a previous post, he performed it with Mick at one of Stevie's AFI benefit concerts in December 2001 and dedicated the song to George Harrison who had passed away a week or so prior. I'm listening to it right now, and as I remembered, it's quite a bit better than the studio recording, which I find pretty listless. Lindsey invests a whole lot more in his vocal and his playing, and Mick's sparse percussion adds a nice twist. Lindsey conflates two verses at the end, but somehow it works and the performance ends up being very moving.

Shoot me an e-mail...

Ahhh will do...i'd love to hear it :nod:

macfan 57 06-09-2005 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jyqm
I believe Dylan did "Love Minus Zero" solo and acoustic on the Rolling Thunder Revue tour. Beautiful performance of the song on the Bootleg Series Vol. 5.

I LOVE that live version. It's even better than the studio version on Bringing It All Back Home, in my opinion. There's another live version on his MTV Unplugged DVD. It's very good too, but not as good as the version on the Rolling Thunder Revue CD set.

mylittledemon 06-09-2005 08:39 AM

I just wanna finally hear their version of "I Am Waiting."

trackaghost 06-09-2005 10:40 AM

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I just wanna finally hear their version of "I Am Waiting."

Me too. I'm not not fond of Lindsey's version of Love Minus Zero to tell the truth.

chiliD 06-09-2005 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Yeah...I just went through their catalog at CD Universe and couldn't find it...but, I definitely have seen/heard Roger McGuinn singing the song. Maybe I have it on a bootleg...I'll check when I get home.

Did Roger take the lead vocal on it during Dylan's Rolling Thunder Revue tour, maybe?


Ok, checked at home, didn't find it. Ya know what though...I'm beginning to think that Roger McGuinn played it when he opened for Fleetwood Mac in 1994. I KNOW I've heard McGuinn singing it...and I'm pretty sure I SAW him sing it as well...since that's the only time I've seen McGuinn live.

dissention 06-09-2005 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
Me too. I'm not not fond of Lindsey's version of Love Minus Zero to tell the truth.

Same here. I don't like the vocal.

Jyqm 06-09-2005 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
I LOVE that live version. It's even better than the studio version on Bringing It All Back Home, in my opinion. There's another live version on his MTV Unplugged DVD. It's very good too, but not as good as the version on the Rolling Thunder Revue CD set.

Dylan's recent performances of it have been pretty incredible as well. I saw him play it in Berlin in 2003 (in a set that also included Baby Blue, Desolation Row, It's Alright Ma, Don't Think Twice, Things Have Changed, Highway 61, Every Grain of Sand...), and it was just devastatingly beautiful in sort of a country ballad arrangement.

gldstwmn 06-12-2005 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I was just curious if anyone has heard Bob Dylans original version of this song? I can't imagine it's much better thaN Lindsey's Version. that song should have been on SYW!!!!!! the only reason I think it might not have been is because it was a cover.

Dylan's version is acoustic and a bit dirge like. It's typical of his mid- sixties/Greenwich Village/bohemian sound. I know it's on Biograph but I'm not sure where, if anywhere it originally appeared. I like what Lindsey did with it. I like both versions.

gldstwmn 06-12-2005 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon
I just wanna finally hear their version of "I Am Waiting."

Yeah. That would be great, if what we heard on the Destiny Rules doc is any indication.

face of glass 06-12-2005 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
I know it's on Biograph but I'm not sure where, if anywhere it originally appeared.

It's on the Bringing It All Back Home LP.

gldstwmn 06-12-2005 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by face of glass
It's on the Bringing It All Back Home LP.

Thank you. :)

DavidMn 06-14-2005 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
I'm not a Dylan fan (I think he writes well, I just don't much care for his voice) but I think Lindsey's cover is excellent. I hope someday he performs it live...whenever that will be :distress:

I wholeheartedly agree. I heard he performed it at his soundstage taping in Chicago back in '03, which still hasnt aired on pbs :(

gldstwmn 06-14-2005 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn
I wholeheartedly agree. I heard he performed it at his soundstage taping in Chicago back in '03, which still hasnt aired on pbs :(

Lindsey didn't, if memory serves and that's whom you're referring to.

WelshWitchPMD 06-15-2005 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
Me too. I'm not not fond of Lindsey's version of Love Minus Zero to tell the truth.


I was at that AHI benefit in 2001 and I heard Lindsey do it live. I have to say that I really did not care for it. I wished that he did another song.

MiniLindsey 06-15-2005 07:16 PM

I saw Dylan perform a beautiful version of this song at the Electric Factory last year. It sounded a bit like Lindsey's, but a lot slower and the lead guitarist was playing a Telecaster, not a nylon-string acoustic.

DavidMn 06-17-2005 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WelshWitchPMD
I was at that AHI benefit in 2001 and I heard Lindsey do it live. I have to say that I really did not care for it. I wished that he did another song.

OK, maybe that was where I'd heard he performed it live. My bad :o

SteveMacD 06-17-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Ok, checked at home, didn't find it. Ya know what though...I'm beginning to think that Roger McGuinn played it when he opened for Fleetwood Mac in 1994. I KNOW I've heard McGuinn singing it...and I'm pretty sure I SAW him sing it as well...since that's the only time I've seen McGuinn live.

Geez I wish I could have seen that show. The Mac is my favorite band, with the Byrds a close second. Add to that Dave Mason and Bonnie Bramlett, and I could have died a happy man that night. Oh well. I got to see that version of Fleetwood Mac twice and I've seen McGuinn once. But man, to have seen THAT show...And didn't Fleetwood Mac do a full set? When I saw them, they were either an opening act or part of a packaged tour. Lucky bastard!

chiliD 06-17-2005 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD
Geez I wish I could have seen that show. The Mac is my favorite band, with the Byrds a close second. Add to that Dave Mason and Bonnie Bramlett, and I could have died a happy man that night. Oh well. I got to see that version of Fleetwood Mac twice and I've seen McGuinn once. But man, to have seen THAT show...And didn't Fleetwood Mac do a full set? When I saw them, they were either an opening act or part of a packaged tour. Lucky bastard!

Oh...and did I mention the concert was FREE?? :nod: :lol: :blob2:

Their set:

The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Oh Well
All Along the Watchtower
The Bigger the Love
Blow By Blow
We Just Disagree
Gold Dust Woman
Only You Know and I Know
(with Bonnie Bramlett on bkgrd vocals)
World Turning
Dear Mr. Fantasy
Say You Love Me
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Tear It Up
Imagine

MiniLindsey 06-19-2005 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniLindsey
I saw Dylan perform a beautiful version of this song at the Electric Factory last year. It sounded a bit like Lindsey's, but a lot slower and the lead guitarist was playing a Telecaster, not a nylon-string acoustic.

And I saw him do it yet again at Campbell's Field last Thursday. New arrangement, this one with an acoustic and a pedal steel, nothing like Lindsey's. Funny how Dylan's songs are so easy to mold.


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