Unite to stop extortion to hear new song
 

Regardless of how you feel about the sell of the new cd that has surfaced on eBay with a new Lindsey song, (there is ample pontificating on the other thread), I would recommend that we band together to stop the sell at the price currently being asked. The seller is now wanting 500.00 for this cd. That just infuriates me. I think that we need to back off and let him eat that cd.

They can eat it.
 

Just one intricately worded email to eBay would kill the auction anyway. Who's game to compose & send it?

Hi...the seller pulled the auction. Stated it was pulled because the minimum required was not set properly? (ie: I think that I can get more than I first thought?). So, the eBay auction is ended. He is aware that a group wants to buy, so he has increased the price to 500.00 as a private sale. The only way to stop him is to not buy it.

What a greedy little SOB! I hate people like that. :mad:

I've already turned him down.

I am so glad that you did, and I thought that you would. My biggest reason for this thread was any other fans he may contact...to put it into perspective. :xoxo:

I'm fairly certain everyone he contacted was from our group. I'd love to turn him into ebay because to my knowledge, this is against e-bays rules and regulations. You can't just stop bidding on an item because you come to the conclusion you'd profit more if you sold privately. I'm going to go ahead and read over at e-bay and see what I can find.

Make sure that I have my info right about why he ended the auction...I am going on other emails that I have read. Nancy may know his story on that. But, it is against the rules to list an item, stop it and then contact anyone who has bid or expressed an interest to sell outside of eBay as I understand it. He has broken several eBay rules.

Hmm...
 

Honey, it's not your fault. Keep in mind that The Penguin has the option to show e-bay adds on the side of the forum. We would have seen it and bought the subject up to begin with. This isn't something you caused.

No, I'm sorry Christy. I was the one who took the bait when everyone else was ignoring the argument.
I had promised myself not to get involved in any stupid debates on The Ledge too :o
Ah, well.

In reference to ebay item 4723583396, Lindsey Buckingham - New Mixes Studio Demo, the seller claims (to ebay) that he ended the auction because "of an error in the minimum bid or Reserve amount" which is obviously bull****. Not only did he contact you and Nancy but he contacted another friend of mine as well and even told the story of how previously he had a an LP up for auction that apparently was quite sought after. The seller was told by the winner of this LP how much it was actually worth. This is when he first realized that he could get more if he went off of e-bay...we all wanted it and he knew it.

that is what I thought. We all need to report him to eBay. Of course, he will probably just create another user name. I was not contacted by the jerk, but, was in the pool. So, we need to post his name and info here too. No one should deal with him.

And, please no one apologize for posting the info to begin with. Hey, that is what we do, we point one another to things and that is part of the beauty of being a fan in this age of technology. 15 years ago it was hit or miss and trade groups, all in the dark more or less. So, you did a good thing. Nothing that was said or happened anywhere is reflected back to you. :xoxo:

I reported him ...everyone else should as well. You cannot stop an auction because you can get a higher price by selling it privately. HE SOLICITED the buyers from ebay...they want their cut for bringing him his business. He emailed me...I was only a watcher on the item so I have no idea how he got my email addy. I guess he somehow obtained the list of watchers. He contacted a good friend of mine and said he had a ton of people interested and what was she willing to bid? he told her he sold another one of these a few months back and made a ton of money. JACKASS.
BTW..he also said LBs management had made no attempt to stop him, just one potential buyer who claimed they knew LB and was speaking for him, expressing his disgust. That was the current high bidder when the auction ended. IMO, that person would have bid the item up to crazy amounts and then never paid for it. :shrug:

Hi...when you sell an item, you get a list of the watchers. So, that is how he was able to know. Everyone that he has contacted has been told the same story. Maybe we need to start this thread in the Rumours area too. I don't want anyone to buy this from him at that price.

One other thing, can someone please provide his auction name, email addy and name if you have it so that we all know who to avoid? Thanks!!

I'd like to post his actual e-mails here, but that's against Ledge rules, isn't it?

I am not sure, but, perhaps you could "paraphrase"? ;)

Actually, you can see how many watchers your item has, but you can't see their usernames or contact information unless they have placed a bid. It's perplexing as to how he was able to get the e-mail addresses of people who hadn't bid or contacted him previously with a question about it. Maybe he's harvesting them from fan boards (or reading along here)... I know I've been solicited to buy bootlegs and crap that way before.

I e-mailed him with questions on the item...so did the person Kelly is referring to as well as many others (I would assume). What better way to make a deal then to take those people who had questions or wanted to know why bidding had stopped and see if they'd like to buy? As far as him knowing this board is in existance, I'm going to go ahead and doubt it. He was dumber than a box of rocks--and that's being kind. Although he is being incredibly sly with his ploy to get us to pay an astronomical amount....

I won't mind putting an e-mail in to e-bay if we're all going to do this. Kelly, what did you end up saying if you don't mind my asking?

I would like to help put this $#*&@ in his place! I was one of the people that wanted to get in on the CD. I really did not want to give the $150.00 to this person but I figured that if we all chipped in and traded it freely it might prevent to some degree price gouging on any future copies of this CD, :shrug:

Here's a thought: maybe he came here and followed discussions amongst Lindsey fans. A Leggie's e-mail addy can be listed on his or her profile.

Knowing a group was willing to buy it gave him a lot of leverage. He thought.

I hate greedy people. I was thinking of bidding but not at that price. FORGET IT !!!! I say we take him down!!!!!

I clicked on under the REPORT a SELLER...and they gave me a list of choices to click on as to what I was reporting. It was a generalized form. I clicked OTHER and spelled it all out in an email that he solicitated business with me after removing his auction item. I explained that his auction started off at a certain price, was up to about 200 when he pulled it and he contacted me asking me what the most I was willing to pay for the item. This is against their rules. It is cutting ebay completely out of the transaction.

Also..he should never have been able to see my email addy if I was just a watcher on the item. Only a bidder..which I was not. I asked him a question AFTER he contacted me about whether anyone from LBs management had complained to him.

I want to let this guy sweat it out for a bit..although someone will probably buy it from him and we could lose out. What a greedy man.

There is no way you can see who is actually 'watching' your auction. He had to have gotten your email addy elsewhere. I'm thinking he has been lurking on here

Pip

The more I think about it the more I'm sure he was reading the other thread. If he was he would have seen everyone pooling money and Nancy being told to stop bidding and pushing the price up. That happened in that thread didn't it? So he pulled it cause he knew he could try to get more money privately and thought everyone on here would be prepared to pay anything

Hmmm...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=4725550641

He relisted it... all be it very briefly.. before endingit again

Pip

Yeah, I had that wrong. I was remembering that I could see how many ppl were watching it, it has been a long time since I sold anything on there. Sorry bout that folks. This dude sure does have a lot of stuff he is selling on eBay. They won't do anything about this. He is making too much money for eBay. Sucks. :shrug:

i was a watcher from the very beginning, & i am pretty huge buyer/seller on ebay, the guy is a farce~ but all of a sudden u c tons of peeps selling stevie's demos, & i c some1 is now selling the '83 US festival on dvd, on there, i don't know y sometimes ebay does something about it & sometimes they seem 2 overlook this stuff~ it all confuses me :shrug: ~

i hate ebay. i hate seeing headings like 'ultra super rare import' and 'one of a kind live show'... hate!

this guy sounds like a total douchebag, his downfall would bring a smile to my face. we should form a watchdog group, protecting the innocent and uninformed from sellers such as him.

i want to message the sellers and be like 'you have no soul, that's up for free download this week on suchasite.com, i hope the karma police assault and batter you'...

the buckingham/nicks 'rare deluxe import' cd drives me insane.

I was also watching this auction (mostly out of curiousity) and no one contacted me, so he must have gotten the emails from elsewhere. :shrug:

YES it drives me crazy to see all this stuff being sold. After he ended the auction I went to look for it under "completed auctions" and it made me sick to see all the GOS that have been sold. I've actually considered setting up an auction and having "Buckingham/Nicks or GOS in the title and then in the actual ad saying that NO ONE has to pay for this stuff and directing them to where they can get it or maybe just telling them to contact me and I could email them where to find it or something like that. Ebay would probably pull it eventually, but if it would help get the word out to people... :shrug:

If you want Lindsey's management to solve this situation, email Jessica ([email protected]) and notify her of this and she can get to the proper channels to try to get rid of this. Whether this album was for $500.00 or 5 cents, it has no business being on eBay or anywhere else for that matter. If Lindsey wanted these songs to be heard by everyone else, they would already be out there for the rest of us to listen to. NOBODY should have access to these songs.

Matt

Yeah, you have such a big problem with unreleased material (the version of Thrown Down that was leaked in late '02 comes to mind) and promo copies (which this very well may be) that you never turned down such things in the past. You and your girlfriend should chip in together and buy this mystery disc on eBay so that you can withhold it from everyone, then wave it in front their faces that you have it and they don't. You and others may complain about this getting sold right now, but as soon as it gets out and someone like Nancy or Sara posts it on their site, you'll make a mad dash to download it.

Or are you just jumping in here to get negative responses on purpose like last time? ;)

I've never been accused of being the sharpest knife in the drawer and I probably never will be, but your logic regarding this "unauthorized" work is perplexing to me. You justify listening to Gift of Screws because it's already out and once it's out "it's out," yet in the next breath you say that such material being out there doesn't sit well with Lindsey and we should respect that. My question is, have you or are you going to throw out your copy of Gift of Screws? It is unauthorized, you say that it hurts Lindsey on some level because it got leaked, yet you have no qualms listening to it and getting pleasure from it. It seems to me that if you want to show him respect in regards to his unreleased material, you wouldn't listen to it at all.

If my sister bought a stolen stereo and I knew about it, would it be okay for me to listen to music on it because it's already been stolen?

I don't think that anyone has said that except you. Over and Over and Over and Over. And, you yourself said that you contacted East End and that they do not care...can you lighten up a tad and enjoy life?

Thank you Josh....very much. Just so much blah blah. Yada yada yada.

That version of Thrown Down that I had on my short lived download site was purposefully edited on my own behalf so people like you could think you had some sort of special version of the song when it really wasn't. It was the studio version that I messed around with to give it a different sound. As far as downloading this material, no I would never download it because I do not download music anymore and I most certainly don't go to other Fleetwood Mac websites for the purpose of downloading music. As time passes, folks change their opinions and my opinion about downloading demos or unreleased tracks has.
People like you are the reason that I haven't posted here in God knows how long and I probably won't post here again for a while. Thanks for reminding me!

Matt

Nah, what's funny is the manner in which you conducted yourself when it became known to the board that his solo version of Peacekeeper was available. You came on here, said that your friend was not going to share, then proceeded to brag about getting a copy for yourself and that YOU were also not going to share it with anyone. You then further went on to say that you did so because you wanted to get negative reactions from people. Such a charmer, you sly devil.

It has nothing to do with not wanting to share. If someone doesn't want to share, they don't have to. But the people that don't want to share don't have to brag about what they have and then essentially tell people tough titty because they aren't going to hear it. It's tacky and unbecoming.

I sincerely hope that since you've had a change of heart about downloading unreleased material, you've trashed your copy, or MP3s, of the Gift of Screws album and any other unreleased material that you once had. Otherwise you're a hypocrite and your protesting otherwise proves as hollow as a chocolate Easter bunny.

Oh, don't mention it, it's my pleasure. Why someone would stop posting over the very behavior that they blame on others is beyond me, but that's your prerogative.