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GateandGarden 04-27-2005 09:29 AM

Texas bans homosexual and bisexual foster parents
 
Sorry that I have not yet found a decent article not from a biased site about this issue. I'm looking. But here's an obviously anti-gay site that posted an article about it.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/apr/05042204.html

Texas Bans Homosexual Foster Parents

AUSTIN, TX., April 22, 2005., (LifeSiteNews.com) Texan politicians voted 81-to-58 to ensure foster children are placed in the homes of normal parents, prohibiting gays, lesbians and bisexuals from becoming foster parents. The decision came as a result of an amendment added to the Child Protective Services reform bill (SB 6) unanimously passed by the state Senate, after which it went to the House of Representatives. Several Democrats argued against the amendment.

As a result of the amendment any individual who applied to be a foster parent, or a foster parent whose performance is being evaluated, must list whether he or she is homosexual or bisexual. If the answer is yes then the state would ban him or her from becoming a foster parent. The state also would not be able to place a child with that foster parent or allow a child to remain in the care with that foster parent.

According to Sen. Jane Nelson, R-Lewisville "Senate Bill 6 is an omnibus Child Protective Services reform bill that calls for, among other things, private child placing agencies to recruit all foster and adoptive homes and arrange all adoptions for abused and neglected children."

Homosexual special interest and lobby groups were quick to condemn the amendment.
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I am so angry about this. I found out about it from watching "The Daily Show" last night and I was just enraged. It just gets worse and worse because apparently the law allows them to decide if someone is lying about his or her sexual orientation and then deny the person foster children based on that. Also, on "The Daily Show" they showed this "debate" between represesntatives from the opposite sides that was broadcasted on CNN, and the anti-gay woman said this was "based on science" because a study in Illinois showed that children are 11 times more likely to be abused by homosexual parents than heterosexual ones.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

tynan88 04-27-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GateandGarden
Sorry that I have not yet found a decent article not from a biased site about this issue. I'm looking. But here's an obviously anti-gay site that posted an article about it.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/apr/05042204.html

Texas Bans Homosexual Foster Parents

AUSTIN, TX., April 22, 2005., (LifeSiteNews.com) Texan politicians voted 81-to-58 to ensure foster children are placed in the homes of normal parents, prohibiting gays, lesbians and bisexuals from becoming foster parents. The decision came as a result of an amendment added to the Child Protective Services reform bill (SB 6) unanimously passed by the state Senate, after which it went to the House of Representatives. Several Democrats argued against the amendment.

As a result of the amendment any individual who applied to be a foster parent, or a foster parent whose performance is being evaluated, must list whether he or she is homosexual or bisexual. If the answer is yes then the state would ban him or her from becoming a foster parent. The state also would not be able to place a child with that foster parent or allow a child to remain in the care with that foster parent.

According to Sen. Jane Nelson, R-Lewisville "Senate Bill 6 is an omnibus Child Protective Services reform bill that calls for, among other things, private child placing agencies to recruit all foster and adoptive homes and arrange all adoptions for abused and neglected children."

Homosexual special interest and lobby groups were quick to condemn the amendment.
____________________________________________________________

I am so angry about this. I found out about it from watching "The Daily Show" last night and I was just enraged. It just gets worse and worse because apparently the law allows them to decide if someone is lying about his or her sexual orientation and then deny the person foster children based on that. Also, on "The Daily Show" they showed this "debate" between represesntatives from the opposite sides that was broadcasted on CNN, and the anti-gay woman said this was "based on science" because a study in Illinois showed that children are 11 times more likely to be abused by homosexual parents than heterosexual ones.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

How can people get away with such crap really, I mean it is ridiculour calling heterosexual couples "normal". I mean some homosexual couples would be more traditional in the values they hold than some of the heterosexual couples of today.

The whole idea is just disgusting, I am straight but it upsets me to see groups of people being discriminated against just because they are different.

My aunty is a single, lesbian Mum now I personally wouldn't have let her have her child, not because she is a lesbian but because she doesn't provide a stable environment for her daughter.

And the idea that homosexuals abuse more than heterosexuals, :mad:

GateandGarden 04-27-2005 09:36 AM

Here's another article
 
http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...e/11435812.htm
Bill bans homosexuals from being foster parents

NATALIE GOTT

Associated Press


AUSTIN - Gays, lesbians and bisexuals would not be allowed to become foster parents under an amendment added to the Child Protective Services reform bill tentatively approved in the House on Tuesday.

Rep. Robert Talton, R-Pasadena, sponsored the amendment approved on a 81-58 vote.

"I don't think it is right for young children to be exposed to this type of behavior when they are young and innocent," Talton said. "It is our responsibilty to make sure that we protect our most vulnerable children and I don't think we are doing that if we allow a foster parent that is homosesxual or bisexual."

Several Democrats argued against the amendment.

"We are here to put children first, not ideology," Rep. Mike Villareal, D-San Antonio said. "How are we going to implement Representative Talton's inquisition?"

Under the amendment, an applicant to be a foster parent or a foster parent whose performance is being evaluated must list whether he or she is homosexual or bisexual.

If the applicant is, the state would ban him or her from becoming a foster parent. The state also would not be able to place a child with that foster parent or allow a child to remain in the care with that foster parent.

Villareal tried to pass an amendment that would ask the applicant to list their sexual orientation but not disqualify him or her from becoming a foster parent because of his or her sexual orientation.

Rep. Garnet Coleman, D-Houston, questioned why the Legislature would want to eliminate one potential foster care provider with a clean, safe home because "of one characteristic."

Talton said he believed it was important that children be able to establish their own sexuality.

"What I am trying to prevent is a learned behavior," Talton said.

The overall bill was tentatively approved on a 126-16 vote with two present not voting. It is expected to get final approval on Wednesday.

The Senate version of the CPS bill does not ban homosexuals or bisexuals from becoming foster parents.

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The Child Protective Services bill is SB 6.

strandinthewind 04-27-2005 09:38 AM

All Americans must be fundamental christians according to these people and in the current political environment (thanks to Karl Rove) it is political suicide to suggest otherwise. Thus, political short sightedness at the expense of a harmless group of non-mailstream is the price paid. Sad - very true.

cliffdweller 04-27-2005 09:39 AM

...cuz we all know heterosexuals make GREAT foster parents :rolleyes:.

Oh the horror stories I've heard about foster homes...:distress:

GateandGarden 04-27-2005 09:43 AM

I need to run off to class but before I go I want to just say (though y'all already know, I'm sure) that it makes me feel so good to know I have y'all's support and that I can post information like this and it disturbs y'all as much as it disturbs me. I could bring this up in one of my classes or at some social gathering here and the only people who would speak up would say, "What's wrong with that?" and then go off on "people who choose such lifestyles," and they would say really rude and hateful things, not even realizing that I'm one of those gays they're talking about. It's a different world here. It's great to have all of you and this place. :)

estranged4life 04-27-2005 09:48 AM

To quote someone...
 
I know: "More bull**** courtesy of those braindead simpletons known as Texans..."

tynan88 04-27-2005 09:49 AM

I do support you all the way, but hey, straight, gay whatever, we are all human, and although we feel it for different people, we are all able to express and feel that great emotion of love, and that binds us together tighter than many imagine. Gay love and straight love aren't different they are no different because it's the LOVE that matters, but hey what would I know, maybe I look at it too simply because I don't discriminate, all I know is that I seem not in the minority here, but in the minority in general, so I must be wrong heh :rolleyes:

cliffdweller 04-27-2005 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life
I know: "More bull**** courtesy of those braindead simpletons known as Texans..."

Hey now, let's not get personal! There are a lot of good people in this state it's just that they're not running our legislature that's all! :laugh:

estranged4life 04-27-2005 09:57 AM

Oh yeah...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Hey now, let's not get personal! There are a lot of good people in this state it's just that they're not running our legislature that's all! :laugh:

I forgot, My older brother lives in Texas, But not for much longer (Moving back to Oklahoma mainly cause his whole family HATES Texas!)

Ya know I give ya Texas Ledgies hell cause I care :thumbsup:

tynan88 04-27-2005 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Hey now, let's not get personal! There are a lot of good people in this state it's just that they're not running our legislature that's all! :laugh:

Geez that's always the American excuse isn't it "I didn't vote for him". I swear a majority say it ey, makes you wonder about the voting process :laugh: :lol:

ontheEdgeof17 04-27-2005 10:02 AM

People are f**ked up.



All I have to say is that Karma's a bitch. Their time will come when they will be judged like they have judged us. It won't be pretty.

cliffdweller 04-27-2005 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tynan88
Geez that's always the American excuse isn't it "I didn't vote for him". I swear a majority say it ey, makes you wonder about the voting process :laugh: :lol:

Well I can tell you this much, it's all I can do not to walk over to the capitol (because I am that close to it everyday) and drop an atom bomb on "Governor Good Hair" a.k.a. Rick Perry and all his evil cronies. Look, I'd love to make change but I just don't want to destroy my future. :laugh:

cliffdweller 04-27-2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by estranged4life
Ya know I give ya Texas Ledgies hell cause I care :thumbsup:

I know. And I also know that all the "mock?" hatred for Texas comes from a little place I like to call jealousy. :laugh: :laugh:

I too kid because I love. :xoxo: :laugh:

tynan88 04-27-2005 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Well I can tell you this much, it's all I can do not to walk over to the capitol (because I am that close to it everyday) and drop an atom bomb on "Governor Good Hair" a.k.a. Rick Perry and all his evil cronies. Look, I'd love to make change but I just don't want to destroy my future. :laugh:

No I know exactly what you mean, it just sucks always being right when no one else realises it! :laugh:

It is hard for me who is politcally active to accept that a majority of the population couldn't care less about politics though, it seems alien to me but I accept I seem alien to them.

GypsySorcerer 04-27-2005 10:27 AM

:distress: :distress: This saddens me. It is discriminatory and these children need loving parents.

markolas 04-27-2005 11:30 AM

Ugh. This weekend my boyfriend and I were driving into downtown, and there's a huge billboard supporting this bill. "Protect Texas Children," it says. We both thought that was pretty ballsy. And in Austin, too, which is supposed to be the one oasis in Texas where the fundamentalist nutwads don't predominate. I'm starting to not feel very safe here...

DrummerDeanna 04-27-2005 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I am so angry about this. I found out about it from watching "The Daily Show" last night and I was just enraged. It just gets worse and worse because apparently the law allows them to decide if someone is lying about his or her sexual orientation and then deny the person foster children based on that. Also, on "The Daily Show" they showed this "debate" between represesntatives from the opposite sides that was broadcasted on CNN, and the anti-gay woman said this was "based on science" because a study in Illinois showed that children are 11 times more likely to be abused by homosexual parents than heterosexual ones.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


Well there goes my blood pressure.

This is an outrage...I can't even put into words how angry this makes me.....:mad:

wondergirl9847 04-27-2005 11:55 AM

Dude...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by estranged4life
I know: "More bull**** courtesy of those braindead simpletons known as Texans..."

You forgot to add "Except Texan Ledgies." ;)

SteveMacD 04-27-2005 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by estranged4life
I know: "More bull**** courtesy of those braindead simpletons known as Texans..."

That's initially how I felt, but then I remembered that there are a lot of Texans who would also disagree with this load of BS: Ann Richards, Willie Nelson, and Larry "J.R. Ewing/Major Nelson" Hagman to name but three.

Still, whenever these types of BS bills go through (like a constitutional ban on same-sex unions that was passed in my Ohio in November), I begin to hear a song in my head. It begins like this: "O' Canada, Our home and native land..." Heck, the same week Ohio banned same-sex unions, Saskatchewan legalized same-sex marriages! As a straight guy, one might ask why I feel so concerned. Well, for me, it's a civil rights issue, and an issue of dealing with reality. I came from a broken home. It would not have been to my advantage to have the traditional two-parent household. Yet, I came out okay. So I know first hand that their argument that all children need a two-parent home is BS. My other concern is that these (im)moralists are basically turning our society into a series of massive high school clicks. Well, I'm sorry, but I graduated.

GateandGarden 04-27-2005 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD
That's initially how I felt, but then I remembered that there are a lot of Texans who would also disagree with this load of BS: Ann Richards, Willie Nelson, and Larry "J.R. Ewing/Major Nelson" Hagman to name but three.

Still, whenever these types of BS bills go through (like a constitutional ban on same-sex unions that was passed in my Ohio in November), I begin to hear a song in my head. It begins like this: "O' Canada, Our home and native land..." Heck, the same week Ohio banned same-sex unions, Saskatchewan legalized same-sex marriages! As a straight guy, one might ask why I feel so concerned. Well, for me, it's a civil rights issue, and an issue of dealing with reality. I came from a broken home. It would not have been to my advantage to have the traditional two-parent household. Yet, I came out okay. So I know first hand that their argument that all children need a two-parent home is BS. My other concern is that these (im)moralists are basically turning our society into a series of massive high school clicks. Well, I'm sorry, but I graduated.

:nod: Well put.

½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ® 04-27-2005 05:14 PM

What do you toofaloof, ding dongs expect? I wouldn’t want one of my children to be raised in a home with two people claiming to be strap on adventurers. Look at the way you act. “This board is a gold mine for profiling quacks!” :cool: I’ve done it. I’ve been here for years watching. You run in packs, waiting to pounce on those not thinking your way. You profile, then bash. You’re guilty of it too.

Just about every thread turns into a twisted conversation with sexual chatter. I remember starting a thread asking if your character on the board was different in real life. Most of you mentioned you act this way daily. Remember your perv thread? Look at your conversations. Look at your pride parades. LMAO You expect society to take you serious? Look at the way you pick apart other people. Damn, look at how you pick apart the band members. Are you just to damn dumb to realize the rest of society reads and sees the way you act?

You cry and whines like kids, and you expect others to allow you to raise children. :shocked: Sheesh, wake up. Your minds are clouded. If you didn’t waste so much time sniffing each others butts you might be able to see straight. :distress:

With that said “How’s everyone doing?” :lol:

xxxmx 04-27-2005 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ®
“How’s everyone doing?” :lol:

i prefer to not make ya'cquaintance. thank you.

Moony 04-27-2005 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ®
What do you toofaloof, ding dongs expect? I wouldn’t want one of my children to be raised in a home with two people claiming to be strap on adventurers. Look at the way you act. “This board is a gold mine for profiling quacks!” :cool: I’ve done it. I’ve been here for years watching. You run in packs, waiting to pounce on those not thinking your way. You profile, then bash. You’re guilty of it too.

Just about every thread turns into a twisted conversation with sexual chatter. I remember starting a thread asking if your character on the board was different in real life. Most of you mentioned you act this way daily. Remember your perv thread? Look at your conversations. Look at your pride parades. LMAO You expect society to take you serious? Look at the way you pick apart other people. Damn, look at how you pick apart the band members. Are you just to damn dumb to realize the rest of society reads and sees the way you act?

You cry and whines like kids, and you expect others to allow you to raise children. :shocked: Sheesh, wake up. Your minds are clouded. If you didn’t waste so much time sniffing each others butts you might be able to see straight. :distress:

With that said “How’s everyone doing?” :lol:

...... Go f*ck yourself.

SteveMacD 04-27-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ®
What do you toofaloof, ding dongs expect? I wouldn’t want one of my children to be raised in a home with two people claiming to be strap on adventurers. Look at the way you act. “This board is a gold mine for profiling quacks!” :cool: I’ve done it. I’ve been here for years watching. You run in packs, waiting to pounce on those not thinking your way. You profile, then bash. You’re guilty of it too.

Just about every thread turns into a twisted conversation with sexual chatter. I remember starting a thread asking if your character on the board was different in real life. Most of you mentioned you act this way daily. Remember your perv thread? Look at your conversations. Look at your pride parades. LMAO You expect society to take you serious? Look at the way you pick apart other people. Damn, look at how you pick apart the band members. Are you just to damn dumb to realize the rest of society reads and sees the way you act?

You cry and whines like kids, and you expect others to allow you to raise children. :shocked: Sheesh, wake up. Your minds are clouded. If you didn’t waste so much time sniffing each others butts you might be able to see straight. :distress:

With that said “How’s everyone doing?” :lol:

From a straight guy I say:
http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/mad/1437.gif

Yeah, it makes complete sense to ban the GLB community from adopting foster kids based on how some folks act on the Ledge. Get out, meet people who are different, and get a life already. Dumb focker.

Cheers!

golddustwoman77 04-27-2005 08:35 PM

We had a bill similar to this one up for a vote in our TN State Legislature. Thank God, it was voted down. This just infuriates me!!!!!! You can't tell me that these children wouldn't be better off with two people of any gender who care about them. This is just straight forward sexual bias! These people who are for this bill could only be doing this out of hate, because nothing else makes sense. States all across the country have a very difficult time finding foster parents for children, and this law is stating that they would rather these children suffer and not have a place to go and stay in a state home than to place them with two, homosexual people who do want them. It has truly gone to far when you are punishing needy children to advance a biased agenda which is build on ridiculous ideals. Even worse is to do it in the name of Christianity which would supposedly never want to harm children. Doesn't the song go....Jesus loves the little child? Not in Texas! :mad:

GypsySorcerer 04-27-2005 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ®
What do you toofaloof, ding dongs expect? I wouldn’t want one of my children to be raised in a home with two people claiming to be strap on adventurers. Look at the way you act. “This board is a gold mine for profiling quacks!” :cool: I’ve done it. I’ve been here for years watching. You run in packs, waiting to pounce on those not thinking your way. You profile, then bash. You’re guilty of it too.

Just about every thread turns into a twisted conversation with sexual chatter. I remember starting a thread asking if your character on the board was different in real life. Most of you mentioned you act this way daily. Remember your perv thread? Look at your conversations. Look at your pride parades. LMAO You expect society to take you serious? Look at the way you pick apart other people. Damn, look at how you pick apart the band members. Are you just to damn dumb to realize the rest of society reads and sees the way you act?

You cry and whines like kids, and you expect others to allow you to raise children. :shocked: Sheesh, wake up. Your minds are clouded. If you didn’t waste so much time sniffing each others butts you might be able to see straight. :distress:

With that said “How’s everyone doing?” :lol:

Not biting. Nice try, though. :rolleyes:

GateandGarden 04-27-2005 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer
Not biting. Nice try, though. :rolleyes:

I couldn't resist. :o This time.

NaiveMelody23 04-27-2005 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ½ ¡Ñ§ÅñË ®
What do you toofaloof, ding dongs expect? I wouldn’t want one of my children to be raised in a home with two people claiming to be strap on adventurers. Look at the way you act. “This board is a gold mine for profiling quacks!” :cool: I’ve done it. I’ve been here for years watching. You run in packs, waiting to pounce on those not thinking your way. You profile, then bash. You’re guilty of it too.

Just about every thread turns into a twisted conversation with sexual chatter. I remember starting a thread asking if your character on the board was different in real life. Most of you mentioned you act this way daily. Remember your perv thread? Look at your conversations. Look at your pride parades. LMAO You expect society to take you serious? Look at the way you pick apart other people. Damn, look at how you pick apart the band members. Are you just to damn dumb to realize the rest of society reads and sees the way you act?

You cry and whines like kids, and you expect others to allow you to raise children. :shocked: Sheesh, wake up. Your minds are clouded. If you didn’t waste so much time sniffing each others butts you might be able to see straight. :distress:

With that said “How’s everyone doing?” :lol:

Wow, as though you have suddenly became the Dr. Phil of the damn board. I dont mean to be rude, but if you dont like what people are discussing then dont come on here. I mean no one is forcing you to look at peoples conversations, and I really do not find anything wrong with them.
I mean everyone has their own different opinions, but SOME..not all on here do not criticize nor say "Well, your a f-ing faggot"

About your gay issue opinion. I really do not see how a bunch of homosexuals with a sexual life using straps would really affect a child? :shrug: Maybe I am wrong...maybe if two men raise a child they will have the odd tendency to have an obession with gay culture. :rolleyes:

but, I am glad that you have expressed your opinion and I do respect it.

strandinthewind 04-28-2005 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lux
So does this mean that anyone with a tendency for sex in a form other than missionary should not raise children? People who like anal shouldn't raise kids I suppose. How far does it go? Perhaps we need a list of fetishes and preferences with a corresponding approval or non-approval for parenting roles. The scat bunch will be ruled out immediately no doubt.

Does a preference or even occasional tendency to take it up the rear imply an inability to provide housing, food, love etc? This is a clever conclusion, do tell how we came to this. Perhaps it implies that they will be inclined to give it to their children up the rear. I know most straight couples give it to their children missionary style so this is the natural conclusion.

Thus, my love, is the sad, sad state of America :mad: People, who have no clue as to what Christ (whom I believe in) actually represented purport to adhere to His Word. He never said one word about gay people and He made the New Covenant - such is the hypocrisy of the new religious right and they make me sick.

And THAT is me bashing without abandon America.

Janet 04-28-2005 01:40 AM

Even though "1/2 insane" perhaps asked for such strong remarks to what they said, please do not tell another board member to "*uck themselves" or " up yours" or whatever, please refrain from one on one attacks.

Topics like this are asking for trouble. I would love to think we are all open minded and free thinking but we are not. A topic like this just begs for people to just come in and bash.

1/2 Insane...do not refer to gay people as you do on these boards please. They are humans just like you are and deserve the same rights. The ONLY difference between someone who is "gay" and you is who they sleep with...that is all. If you can't respect the people on these boards, you might as well leave.
Thank you.

strandinthewind 04-28-2005 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janet
Even though "1/2 insane" perhaps asked for such strong remarks to what they said, please do not tell another board member to "*uck themselves" or " up yours" or whatever, please refrain from one on one attacks.

Topics like this are asking for trouble. I would love to think we are all open minded and free thinking but we are not. A topic like this just begs for people to just come in and bash.

1/2 Insane...do not refer to gay people as you do on these boards please. They are humans just like you are and deserve the same rights. The ONLY difference between someone who is "gay" and you is who they sleep with...that is all. If you can't respect the people on these boards, you might as well leave.
Thank you.

You are once again, the voice of reason - thank you.

Mari 04-28-2005 02:37 AM

^agreed, and Janet, if anything dóes call for a strike, this is.

irishgrl 04-28-2005 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tynan88
No I know exactly what you mean, it just sucks always being right when no one else realises it! :laugh:

It is hard for me who is politcally active to accept that a majority of the population couldn't care less about politics though, it seems alien to me but I accept I seem alien to them.

The caring increases/decreases depending on who's in power. (for some) I myself care 24/7.

tynan88 04-28-2005 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishgrl
The caring increases/decreases depending on who's in power. (for some) I myself care 24/7.

Agreed I am active all the time so it is wierd for me to know of people that aren't.

irishgrl 04-28-2005 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tynan88
Agreed I am active all the time so it is wierd for me to know of people that aren't.

My involvement has been a work in progress, I have evolved from just reading about issues to signing petitions to actually going into the halls of the legislature and committee rooms to speak out for change.

I abhor the tactics of the religious right to insert their morality into our laws piecemeal so that we are inching ever closer to a feudal state. What is scary to me is that so many young people arent more alarmed. There are quite a lot of conservatives who have no problem at all with the current state of right wing politics. Many are eager for the day when THEIR version of morality is forced on us ALL.

very scary indeed.

GateandGarden 04-28-2005 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janet
Even though "1/2 insane" perhaps asked for such strong remarks to what they said, please do not tell another board member to "*uck themselves" or " up yours" or whatever, please refrain from one on one attacks.

Topics like this are asking for trouble. I would love to think we are all open minded and free thinking but we are not. A topic like this just begs for people to just come in and bash.

1/2 Insane...do not refer to gay people as you do on these boards please. They are humans just like you are and deserve the same rights. The ONLY difference between someone who is "gay" and you is who they sleep with...that is all. If you can't respect the people on these boards, you might as well leave.
Thank you.

Yes, as Jason said, thank you for being the voice of reason. Though this topic does beg for bashing, I am still comforted by the overwhelmingly positive and affirming comments made by many on this board. I've decided that they definitely make up for the degrading and negative ones in my eyes. :)

tynan88 04-28-2005 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishgrl
My involvement has been a work in progress, I have evolved from just reading about issues to signing petitions to actually going into the halls of the legislature and committee rooms to speak out for change.

I abhor the tactics of the religious right to insert their morality into our laws piecemeal so that we are inching ever closer to a feudal state. What is scary to me is that so many young people arent more alarmed. There are quite a lot of conservatives who have no problem at all with the current state of right wing politics. Many are eager for the day when THEIR version of morality is forced on us ALL.

very scary indeed.

I have a great deal of respect for politically active people regardless of their views, because I think activity is a very proud thing to and is necessary yet thankless.

strandinthewind 04-28-2005 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tynan88
I have a great deal of respect for politically active people regardless of their views, because I think activity is a very proud thing to and is necessary yet thankless.


and - it makes the strangest and most unlikely people allies for brief periods of time - which is just bizarre.

DrummerDeanna 04-28-2005 09:25 AM

lol...said poster un-lurks to totally stir things up and bait - sad. That's all.

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That said, yes there are some screwed up gay folks...but guess what....there are screwed up straight folks too!

I've met many a crazy in both worlds....I think it's disgusting to prohibit someone from being a Foster parent based on sexual orientation this way - it's just unacceptable.


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