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macfan 57 03-28-2005 07:12 PM

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This is a close-up picture of Chris & Stevie from that 1978 Halloween party. :lol:

wondergirl9847 03-28-2005 07:22 PM

Lol
 
No doubt that's Stevie, you can just tell by her features and hands...but if nobody told me that was Christine, I wouldn't have known who that was. :shocked:

macfan 57 03-28-2005 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847
No doubt that's Stevie, you can just tell by her features and hands...but if nobody told me that was Christine, I wouldn't have known who that was. :shocked:

I know. I wouldn't have known that was Christine either. But, there is a picture of the band at the party in Mick's 25 year coffee table book. Chris was in blackface, Lindsey was a priest & John was a Nazi. :shocked: I was shocked when I first saw that picture. It's very politically incorrect, although it was 1978. Still....

ThePenguin 03-29-2005 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
I know. I wouldn't have known that was Christine either. But, there is a picture of the band at the party in Mick's 25 year coffee table book. Chris was in blackface, Lindsey was a priest & John was a Nazi. :shocked: I was shocked when I first saw that picture. It's very politically incorrect, although it was 1978. Still....

I think he's very interested in that period of history...but that doesn't really excuse the costume! He pulled a Prince Harry LOL. :rolleyes:

-Lis

macfan 57 03-29-2005 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
I think he's very interested in that period of history...but that doesn't really excuse the costume! He pulled a Prince Harry LOL. :rolleyes:

-Lis

Yeah. I remember in Mick's book(the earlier one), he mentioned that when they had toured in Germany back in the 1970's, they had traveled on a train which Hitler had also used. Mick mentioned that John had loved that since he collected Nazi memorabilia. I certainly hope he isn't into that kind of thing anymore. Afterall, his wife is Jewish, I believe.

Both Chris & John could have picked better costumes for that Halloween party, in my opinion.

strandinthewind 03-29-2005 11:02 AM

I LOVE Mammy and Aunt Jemimiah - they are very popular in the collectable department - do a goggle search and you will see what I mean. Plus, the idea of Chris as Mammy is a riot.

I know some take offense at it, but I do not.

ThePenguin 03-29-2005 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Yeah. I remember in Mick's book(the earlier one), he mentioned that when they had toured in Germany back in the 1970's, they had traveled on a train which Hitler had also used. Mick mentioned that John had loved that since he collected Nazi memorabilia. I certainly hope he isn't into that kind of thing anymore. Afterall, his wife is Jewish, I believe.

Both Chris & John could have picked better costumes for that Halloween party, in my opinion.

I think Mick also said that they were all too freaked out to actually ride in Hitler's train, didn't he? anyway I suppose back in 1978 there wasn't the 'political correctness' that there is today; IMO it's doubtful you'd see folks dressing up in those costumes in 2005.

-Lis

macfan 57 03-29-2005 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
IMO it's doubtful you'd see folks dressing up in those costumes in 2005.

-Lis

Ah, remember Prince Harry? :lol: :lol:

strandinthewind 03-29-2005 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
. . . IMO it's doubtful you'd see folks dressing up in those costumes in 2005.

-Lis

To me that is a little sad because to me it indicates a lack of a sense of humor and a complete inability to laugh at something that once was horrible - then again, I am not very PC. But, it is all subjective I guess. For example, I went to Halloween a few years ago dressed as a cardinal somplete with a red miter and a HUGE red ring. I had no less than five black people walk up to me and asked me if I was dressed as the clan :eek: I was like NO WAY - I would never do that :eek:

Interestingly, more than one of them laughed and thought it was funny if I had been a klansman :eek:

chiliD 03-29-2005 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
I think he's very interested in that period of history...but that doesn't really excuse the costume! He pulled a Prince Harry LOL. :rolleyes:

-Lis


Actually, I think Prince Harry "pulled a John McVie". :thumbsup:

macfan 57 03-29-2005 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
I think Mick also said that they were all too freaked out to actually ride in Hitler's train, didn't he?

-Lis

Here's the quote from Mick's book.

"John McVie , who maintains a collection of Third Reich memorabilia, almost went out of his mind when we were told that the opulent, overstuffed lounge car had belonged to Adolf Hitler. The train even came with a little old German in a starched white jacket who had waited on the Fuhrer. (The band was actually afraid to ride in Hitler's creepy coach, and preferred to hang out in the dining car.)"

So the band did ride in the train, but stayed away from Hitler's private car. I'm not sure about John though. I have a feeling he couldn't resist not checking out Hitler's private coach. :laugh:

ThePenguin 03-29-2005 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Actually, I think Prince Harry "pulled a John McVie". :thumbsup:

yes, i guess that's more accurate! :D
-Lis

wondergirl9847 03-29-2005 12:14 PM

Ooookay.
 
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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Interestingly, more than one of them laughed and thought it was funny if I had been a klansman :eek:

How about if the black people had been dressed as a klansman, now THAT'S funny.

ThePenguin 03-29-2005 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
To me that is a little sad because to me it indicates a lack of a sense of humor and a complete inability to laugh at something that once was horrible - then again, I am not very PC.

I dunno, I think maybe you have to have more of a sense of 'black humor' to find a Nazi uniform humorous. It's about as funny as a Klansman costume (which IMO is not funny at all!) :shrug: I guess i don't think some stuff should be laughed at...? but I'm very sensitive LOL.

-Lis

strandinthewind 03-29-2005 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847
How about if the black people had been dressed as a klansman, now THAT'S funny.

Actually, I have seen that :eek: But, it was in the early 80's when PC was not really around :cool: I thought it was hysterical then and still do :laugh:

strandinthewind 03-29-2005 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
I dunno, I think maybe you have to have more of a sense of 'black humor' to find a Nazi uniform humorous. It's about as funny as a Klansman costume (which IMO is not funny at all!) :shrug: I guess i don't think some stuff should be laughed at...? but I'm very sensitive LOL.

-Lis

Yea, the Klan thing is disarming when white people do it. As for Nazi's - they have been made fun of before as la Mel Brooks and Springtime for hitler :laugh: But and in general, I think Nazi's should be avoided altogether as an outfit choice. Mammy, on the other hand, is different to me because Mammy was not the one persecuting, etc., like the Nazis and the Klan. But, that is my own line to draw I guess :cool: I remember I had a Mammy hand held fan and this black girl friend of mine was like "THAT IS SO RACIST" and I was like "IT IS A FAN" - interestingly, her boyfriend, who was black, thought it was hysterical - go figure :cool:

skcin 03-29-2005 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847
How about if the black people had been dressed as a klansman, now THAT'S funny.


Dave Chappelle's funniest skit ever! He protrayed a black blind white supremacist. If you haven't seen it yet, you must! :thumbsup:

GateandGarden 03-29-2005 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin
Dave Chappelle's funniest skit ever! He protrayed a black blind white supremacist. If you haven't seen it yet, you must! :thumbsup:

I saw that recently, and I was just speechless! I didn't know what to think! :laugh:

slnrox 04-03-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
Yeah. I remember in Mick's book(the earlier one), he mentioned that when they had toured in Germany back in the 1970's, they had traveled on a train which Hitler had also used. Mick mentioned that John had loved that since he collected Nazi memorabilia. I certainly hope he isn't into that kind of thing anymore. Afterall, his wife is Jewish, I believe.

Peter Green is also Jewish--wonder how he felt about John's little hobby?

slnrox 04-03-2005 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin
I dunno, I think maybe you have to have more of a sense of 'black humor' to find a Nazi uniform humorous. It's about as funny as a Klansman costume (which IMO is not funny at all!) :shrug: I guess i don't think some stuff should be laughed at...? but I'm very sensitive LOL.

-Lis

I agree. I have a good sense of humor, but some subjects are just too touchy to be considered funny.

strandinthewind 04-03-2005 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by slnrox
Peter Green is also Jewish--wonder how he felt about John's little hobby?

Well, I think John is just interested in it from an historical perspective. I do not think he condones Hitler and his regime. I mean I studied it and thought it was interesting if not a fascinating study of what people will do when all hope is gone a la Germany after the treaty of Versailles, but I hated and still hate the autrocities committed by them :shrug:

strandinthewind 04-03-2005 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by slnrox
Peter Green is also Jewish--wonder how he felt about John's little hobby?

Interestingly, humor often is irreverent. For example, how long after 9/11 was it okay to emabrk on humor about it. I know it sounds strange, but South Park did it - and brilliantly so IMO with a goat dressed as La Nicks. So, comedianes have a fine line to walk and many do it successfully. I will never forget when Joan Rivers made her first joke about Edgar who was her husband who killed himself. She said she waited awhile before bringing him back into her act, which he had been part of for years. She said the audience would have no part of it and in fact gave her a few boos at first. Another good example was Ted Danson in black face at a comedic benefit for Whoopi Goldberg's (his girlfriend at the time) - the media crucified him - but I I and Goldberg thought it was hilarious. So, I guess it is all subjective.

ThePenguin 04-03-2005 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, I think John is just interested in it from an historical perspective. I do not think he condones Hitler and his regime.

I hope not! It is true, however, that for many years prejudice against Jews was unfortunately more prevalent and almost acceptable (not to say there still isn't some today!)...FWIW in my little john/chris story, the anecdote where Pete made that really rude comment onstage about John's relationship w/ Chris, John's response was said to have been "You f***ing Jew!" Even Chris in an interview once described Peter as a "cocky little Jewboy". yeesh. But then again, when those comments were made, it was a different time.. hopefully in today's more PC environment, they'd never say such things....??

-Lis

wondergirl9847 04-03-2005 12:20 PM

Bwah!!
 
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Originally Posted by skcin
Dave Chappelle's funniest skit ever! He protrayed a black blind white supremacist. If you haven't seen it yet, you must! :thumbsup:

I think I may have seen that...and I love the skit with the Niggar family. When he runs in and just blurts it out and then runs back out. BWAHAHA!!

I have a sick sense of humour and don't get offended too easily, but everyone is different and you have to be careful.

HomerMcvie 04-03-2005 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847
I think I may have seen that...and I love the skit with the Niggar family. When he runs in and just blurts it out and then runs back out. BWAHAHA!!

I have a sick sense of humour and don't get offended too easily, but everyone is different and you have to be careful.

OMG!!! When he does the Niggar family, it's all I can do to not die from laughing. That is the funniest **** ever! :lol:

SteveMacD 04-03-2005 06:24 PM

My favorite is "Stinky the Grump."

I don't believe your papy
He may be rich, but he ain't happy
He tells you about work and how you want to be him
But when was the last time you got to see him

He works, but why
So you can go out and buy
A bunch of ***** that you don't need
Driven by your punk-@$$ hopes and greed
That's why I say f***-it

For the first time in my life I'm finally free
No mansion for me
I say f***-it
No brand new Humvee
I say f***-it
"But you'll get no p*$$y"
F***-it

What you don't understand
Is that I make love to my hand
So I don't need you honey
I can beat my d**k like it owes me money
F***-it
:lol: :lol: :lol:

cliffdweller 04-19-2005 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
"John McVie , who maintains a collection of Third Reich memorabilia, almost went out of his mind when we were told that the opulent, overstuffed lounge car had belonged to Adolf Hitler.

Ummm...is anyone else freaked out by this? John McVie gets giddy over Third Reich memorabilia and riding in Hitler's train car? Sorry, this does nothing for me. :distress: I don't even think it's cute.


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