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gldstwmn 03-10-2005 02:36 PM

Jackson Shows Up For Court In Pajamas
 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/10/ja...ial/index.html

Jackson trial under way
Accuser returns to stand after judge threatened to jail singer
Thursday, March 10, 2005 Posted: 2:04 PM EST (1904 GMT)

SANTA MARIA, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's child molestation trial began more than 90 minutes late Thursday after the pop star flirted with possible jail by failing to show up on time.

When court resumed, the teenage boy who says Jackson molested him two years ago retook the stand for a second day of testimony.

After Jackson failed to arrive at the Santa Maria, California, courthouse for the scheduled 8:30 a.m. (11:30 a.m. ET) start, defense lawyer Thomas Mesereau Jr. explained to Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville that his client was at a hospital for treatment of a "serious back problem."

But Melville, who last month had to delay jury selection by a week after Jackson was briefly hospitalized with the flu, refused to accept the excuse. He threatened to revoke Jackson's $3 million and jail him for the remainder of the trial if he didn't show up within an hour.

Jackson eventually made it to the courthouse, although he missed Melville's deadline by three minutes. Looking somewhat disheveled, with uncombed hair, Jackson was wearing pajama bottoms and sandals. He walked slowly, with a bodyguard and his father, Joseph, holding him at the elbows.

Once the trial resumed, Melville apologized to jurors for the delay and informed them that he had to order Jackson to court. But he admonished them not to "make inferences" about Jackson's innocence or guilt based on that fact.

"I'm not expressing an opinion about the case," the judge said.

Jackson's delayed appearance came on a possible pivotal day of testimony, with the boy accusing him of child molestation expected to detail what he says happened between the two of them two years ago at Jackson's Neverland Ranch.

The boy, now 15, was on the stand for an hour Wednesday afternoon, but court adjourned for the day before he provided any testimony about the molestation he says happened at Jackson's hands.

On Wednesday, Jackson's accuser had testified that he was "kind of hypnotized" by Jackson after meeting him while undergoing chemotherapy treatment for cancer and thought "he was the coolest guy in the world."

Jackson, 46, was indicted in April by a state grand jury on 10 felony counts for incidents that allegedly occurred in February and March 2003.

The charges include four counts of committing a lewd act on a child; one count of conspiracy to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion; one count of attempting to commit a lewd act on a child; and four counts of administering an intoxicating agent to assist in the commission of a felony.

He has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

skcin 03-10-2005 02:46 PM

Wackjob. :nod:

dissention 03-10-2005 02:48 PM

:rolleyes:

This guy gets away with murder.

SuzeQuze 03-10-2005 02:52 PM

I was just reading about this. :distress: I'd be in the slammer if it were me. Jackson gets an hour grace period, which he was a few minutes late for! I mean, this is serious, even with back trouble he could have been drugged up and wheeled in. :rolleyes: You don't just not show up for court. :shrug: Ugh!

gldstwmn 03-10-2005 03:06 PM

The photo of him shuffling into court on CNN's home page is priceless.

belladonna. 03-10-2005 03:16 PM

he is so damn creepy

seriously, is there anyone out there that really believes he didn't do this?
because i don't know anyone that thinks he is innocent...

SuzeQuze 03-10-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by belladonna.
he is so damn creepy

seriously, is there anyone out there that really believes he didn't do this?
because i don't know anyone that thinks he is innocent...

Just the guy wearing the t-shirt "Michael Jackson is Innocent". :shrug:

belladonna. 03-10-2005 03:29 PM

that guy is clearly misguided

GateandGarden 03-10-2005 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
Just the guy wearing the t-shirt "Michael Jackson is Innocent". :shrug:

Maybe that guy is just in denial because he loves the music so much.

David 03-10-2005 03:42 PM

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After Jackson failed to arrive at the Santa Maria, California, courthouse for the scheduled 8:30 a.m. (11:30 a.m. ET) start, defense lawyer Thomas Mesereau Jr. explained to Santa Barbara County Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville that his client was at a hospital for treatment of a "serious back problem." But Melville, who last month had to delay jury selection by a week after Jackson was briefly hospitalized with the flu, refused to accept the excuse. He threatened to revoke Jackson's $3 million and jail him for the remainder of the trial if he didn't show up within an hour.
Senor Jackson is learning, very slowly, perhaps the most difficult lesson of his egregiously insulated life: even megastars aren't above the law of the land in which they live. His lawyer must be pulling his own hair out. Jackson is so deluded & so unaware of the idea of normal, responsible adulthood that it's pathetic to see this . . . alien (for want of a better term) . . . recoil feebly from every jab thrown his way, confused & uncomprehending.

Obviously, he can't be allowed to withdraw back into his high-security shell in order to avoid his responsibilities, & this judge seems to agree. But I wouldn't be surprised if the horrendous strain of justice kills Jackson. He's as unfit to survive it as a naked baby in a blizzard.

At the very least, it will drive him completely insane. Even the most neurotic, self-preserving minds ultimately crumble under enough force (as we've learned here on the ledge).

greatdarkwing 03-10-2005 03:52 PM

The good thing about being home with a bum leg.....breaking news....I was watching every minute. As a pre-law student this trial has me mesmerized. The average person would have been jailed on the spot. What a bunch of bull. Its ok....the kid will hopefully get up there and say enough to put him behind bars for a while.

~Alex

dissention 03-10-2005 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by greatdarkwing
The good thing about being home with a bum leg.....breaking news....I was watching every minute. As a pre-law student this trial has me mesmerized. The average person would have been jailed on the spot. What a bunch of bull. Its ok....the kid will hopefully get up there and say enough to put him behind bars for a while.

~Alex

Hope you're feeling better, Alex. :xoxo:

Let's face it, if it were you or me or Suze or Goldie, we would have been thrown into the slammer and had our bail revoked in an instant. He's getting preferential treatment and it couldn't be any more obvious. I can't wait for this bastard to be convicted.

greatdarkwing 03-10-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Hope you're feeling better, Alex. :xoxo:

Let's face it, if it were you or me or Suze or Goldie, we would have been thrown into the slammer and had our bail revoked in an instant. He's getting preferential treatment and it couldn't be any more obvious. I can't wait for this bastard to be convicted.

Thanks Dissention! I appreciate the nice words.. :angel:

Now now...we all know i'd be freed because of my Republican ties to the judges :laugh: :laugh:

dissention 03-10-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by greatdarkwing
Thanks Dissention! I appreciate the nice words.. :angel:

Now now...we all know i'd be freed because of my Republican ties to the judges :laugh: :laugh:

Eh, but of course. :rolleyes: :laugh: Hopefully those ties won't get you shanked in the john before your release, though. :laugh:

SuzeQuze 03-10-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin
Wackjob. :nod:

:laugh: I somehow missed your perfectly succinct post, Paula! Sesly, he really does look like an alien and he certainly doesn't act of this world. I hope the jury believes every word of the accuser.

Did you guys see the documentary that this boy was in with Michael? It was so disturbing. I am glad he and his family had the courage to move forward.

strandinthewind 03-10-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
. . . Let's face it, if it were you or me or Suze or Goldie, we would have been thrown into the slammer and had our bail revoked in an instant. He's getting preferential treatment and it couldn't be any more obvious . . .

Hardly - at least in this instance. If most people said they were at the hospital, sick, in the care of a doctor, and actually were there (as Jackson was here), a recess would be granted, etc.

Here, this Judge refused even to talk to Jackson's doctor :eek: and ordered him to be there in an hour, which I submit in LA it is hard to cross the street in an hour :laugh: This indicates this judge is cutting Jackson no slack and certainly not giving him preferential treatment. IMO who can blame the Judge when Jackson has behaved like an ass by coming to court late, conducting a dance a thon outside of the courthouse, and dressing like a circus act in the courtroom.

strandinthewind 03-10-2005 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
. . . Did you guys see the documentary that this boy was in with Michael? It was so disturbing. I am glad he and his family had the courage to move forward.

I think this boy and his family are opportunistic liars and their track record proves that. I also think these parents should be imprisoned for child abuse for letting their son have a sleepover with an accused child molester.

Note - I think Jackson is guilty but that is different than lauding these leeches for IMO setting their son up for this so they could collect.

amber 03-10-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think this boy and his family are opportunistic liars and their track record proves that. I also think these parents should be imprisoned for child abuse for letting their son have a sleepover with an accused child molester.

Note - I think Jackson is guilty but that is different than lauding these leeches for IMO setting their son up for this so they could collect.

I got that vibe, too. From what I've seen of the story, I certainly wouldn't laud their "courage". The mom was a dimwit at best, an opportunistic leach at worst. And yes, I do think Michael Jackson is a child molester.

Pisces Queen 03-10-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think this boy and his family are opportunistic liars and their track record proves that. I also think these parents should be imprisoned for child abuse for letting their son have a sleepover with an accused child molester.

Note - I think Jackson is guilty but that is different than lauding these leeches for IMO setting their son up for this so they could collect.


Can I get an AMEN!! :shrug:

dissention 03-10-2005 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think this boy and his family are opportunistic liars and their track record proves that. I also think these parents should be imprisoned for child abuse for letting their son have a sleepover with an accused child molester.

Note - I think Jackson is guilty but that is different than lauding these leeches for IMO setting their son up for this so they could collect.

I certianly wouldn't include the kid in that statement, but hey. It's not this kids fault that he grew up with such f*ck-ups for parents, nor is it his fault for being "opportunistic" when he probably learned it from them in the first place. There's really nothing he could have done.

strandinthewind 03-10-2005 04:17 PM

Recant a little - I did not mean that as a mean spirited attack on Suze - so :sorry: Suze if it came off that way :wavey: I meant it as mean spirited to the parents only :cool:

strandinthewind 03-10-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I certianly wouldn't include the kid in that statement, but hey. It's not this kids fault that he grew up with such f*ck-ups for parents, nor is it his fault for being "opportunistic" when he probably learned it from them in the first place. There's really nothing he could have done.

Perehaps - but if he is lying now on the stand - he has to share that culpability - but I agree with you in general and think this kid is messed up because of his parents.

I think that perhaps Jackson did not molest this kid and they are in it for the money - but who knows and I certainly think Jackson gave them wine, etc. Also, the brother's lying on the stand was fairly damning. In the end and afdter all of the other evidence (which is considerable on both sides), Jackson may get convicted on the booze charges alone.

dissention 03-10-2005 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Perehaps - but if he is lying now on the stand - he has to share that culpability - but I agree with you in general and think this kid is messed up because of his parents.

I think he was molested by Jackson, so I don't think he's lying. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think that perhaps Jackson did not molest this kid and they are in it for the money - but who knows and I certainly think Jackson gave them wine, etc. Also, the brother's lying on the stand was fairly damning. In the end and afdter all of the other evidence (which is considerable on both sides), Jackson may get convicted on the booze charges alone.

I agree. He's going up the river and I think the fingerprint evidence will damn him, too.

strandinthewind 03-10-2005 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I think he was molested by Jackson, so I don't think he's lying. :shrug:

What is even sicker is I think that if he was, his parents egged him on into it. This whole matter just sickens me to my stomach. I mean I love a dollar just as much as the next person, but I would never whore my kid out for it, maybe myself :laugh: - but never my kid :cool:

SuzeQuze 03-10-2005 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Recant a little - I did not mean that as a mean spirited attack on Suze - so :sorry: Suze if it came off that way :wavey: I meant it as mean spirited to the parents only :cool:

Oh no, I didn't take it that way at all. Admittedly, I know very little about the parents. I've heard them be accused of being opportunistic but I haven't seen any of the data or anything, just sound bites. I was thinking that perhaps the defense was making it up like the OJ defense made up the "he was framed" scenario but I may be wrong. In any event, it doesn't change the fact that MJ did molest the kid, IMO. And like Diss said, his idiot parents (if that is what they are) shouldn't have any bearing on that.

dissention 03-10-2005 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
What is even sicker is I think that if he was, his parents egged him on into it. This whole matter just sickens me to my stomach. I mean I love a dollar just as much as the next person, but I would never whore my kid out for it, maybe myself :laugh: - but never my kid :cool:

Well, this kid should have been taken out of his parents care ages ago. That much is obvious. The abuse they've inflicted upon him is almost as bad as what Jackson did to him. The idea that a parent could sell their kid to someone like that is shocking to me, it makes you wonder if they're human. :distress:

gldstwmn 03-10-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by belladonna.
he is so damn creepy

He doesn't even look real. :distress:

gldstwmn 03-10-2005 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
Just the guy wearing the t-shirt "Michael Jackson is Innocent". :shrug:

Think he's on the payroll? :lol:

greatdarkwing 03-10-2005 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Eh, but of course. :rolleyes: :laugh: Hopefully those ties won't get you shanked in the john before your release, though. :laugh:


ROTFLMFAO!!!!! :laugh:

Nixxxed 03-10-2005 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
I was just reading about this. :distress: I'd be in the slammer if it were me. Jackson gets an hour grace period, which he was a few minutes late for! I mean, this is serious, even with back trouble he could have been drugged up and wheeled in. :rolleyes: You don't just not show up for court. :shrug: Ugh!

AND, his "back problems" didn't prevent him from quickly spinning around 180-degrees in TWO directions to wave hello to a fan who called his name as he was "shuffling" in to the courthouse in his pajamas.

And the judge rescinded the bail revokal and arrest warrant just a bit ago... :rolleyes:

greatdarkwing 03-10-2005 04:44 PM

I agree whole-heartedly that the accuser's parents did some messed up things, esp. if the whole Leno extortion thing is true. However, I do think he was molested. We'll see if they allow the 1993 boy to testify.

~Alex

gldstwmn 03-10-2005 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by David
His lawyer must be pulling his own hair out.

Mesereau must have gotten one hell of a retainer and is probably hating himself for ever taking this case.

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Originally Posted by David
Jackson is so deluded & so unaware of the idea of normal, responsible adulthood that it's pathetic to see this . . . alien (for want of a better term) . . . recoil feebly from every jab thrown his way, confused & uncomprehending.

Personally, in addition to his complete disconnect with reality, I believe him to have a serious prescription drug habit which is further compounding his problems. There is no other reasonable explanation for someone of his age and means to be sick every other day. :shrug:

belladonna. 03-10-2005 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Personally, in addition to his complete disconnect with reality, I believe him to have a serious prescription drug habit which is further compounding his problems. There is no other reasonable explanation for someone of his age and means to be sick every other day. :shrug:

i think you're right
he's probably on all kinds of crazy pills to make him act less crazy
but since he's on so many he just acts more crazy
or something. :confused:

gldstwmn 03-10-2005 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think that perhaps Jackson did not molest this kid and they are in it for the money - but who knows and I certainly think Jackson gave them wine, etc.

They described his penis, which evidently resembles a barber pole from the bleach he uses all over his body. It would be difficult for them to know such a thing. They shouldn't be seeing his penis under any cricumstances. Forgive me for putting it so crduely.

mondaymornin1 03-10-2005 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Personally, in addition to his complete disconnect with reality, I believe him to have a serious prescription drug habit which is further compounding his problems. There is no other reasonable explanation for someone of his age and means to be sick every other day. :shrug:

Mmhm. I'd like to have a look in his medicine cabinet. I'm thinking we'd find multiple prescription meds--pain meds, to be exact--that he probably became addicted to as a result of his obsessive plastic surgery habit!!

dissention 03-10-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
They described his penis, which evidently resembles a barber pole from the bleach he uses all over his body. It would be difficult for them to know such a thing. They shouldn't be seeing his penis under any cricumstances. Forgive me for putting it so crduely.

You're forgiven, even though you gave me the dry heaves, love. :laugh:

It should be interesting when the boy from '93 testifies, which I expect he will.

Livia 03-10-2005 04:55 PM

The E! wardrobe department: Get some pajamas, STAT!

I've been watching these re-enactments, very entertaining! One of the attorneys I work with said MJ is going to jail. I said, "No, he won't. He'll be found guilty but he will commit suicide before he'll spend one second in prison."

I normally don't watch Leno, but the guest comedians telling MJ jokes every night has been hilarious (Leno's under a gag order). Last night - Did you hear about the new sandwich named after MJ? 46-year-old meat in a 13-year-old bun! Ba-da-bump!

belladonna. 03-10-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
They described his penis, which evidently resembles a barber pole from the bleach he uses all over his body. It would be difficult for them to know such a thing. They shouldn't be seeing his penis under any cricumstances. Forgive me for putting it so crduely.

wow, great, that's even MORE creepy.

gldstwmn 03-10-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mondaymornin1
Mmhm. I'd like to have a look in his medicine cabinet. I'm thinking we'd find multiple prescription meds--pain meds, to be exact--that he probably became addicted to as a result of his obsessive plastic surgery habit!!

:nod: :nod: :nod: One's nose falling off is probably pretty painful.

dissention 03-10-2005 04:57 PM

Has there been any word on Debbie Rowe? Last I heard, she was testifying against Jacko.


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