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I don't get it...
I don't understand why people say that Christine is out of FM. Sure, she didn't tour for say you will and you can hear her only on a few songs and she is listed as a guest, but I've read reviews of syw saying that they miss Christine, and some of the reviewers didn't seem to know that she played on it.
And last year she said something like "There isn't a day that I don't think about Fleetwood Mac", right ? So, we might see her return for a new album... As much as I am a LB fan, I would love to see her playing with the band again. |
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IF she ever came back id be so thrilled
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As much as I'd LOVE to see it, I just don't see it happening. I hope I'm wrong.
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But.. Chris seems to be retired. Yes she recorded an album but didn't tour, she doesn't want to leave England. She doesn't want to tour nor spend months in America recording a new mac album. I see she wants a quiet life. So it seems to me that she is not in the band. She was not fired, I think she would be more than welcome if Fleetwood Mac record a new album and Chris wants to be involved but... I don't see it happening either. |
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As long as Christine is happy, I'm happy and happy for her.
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I think we'll see full participation from Christine on a new Mac studio album, the day the band finally decides to quit touring.
It's obvious she loves her quiet life at home in England (and she's earned the luxury to stay home), but it's also obvious from the release of 'In The Meantime,' that she still has the desire to write and record. The touring with Fleetwood Mac seems to be the big deal-breaker. Remove touring from the equation, and I bet Christine would be there. I love the Buckingham & Nicks-lead 'Say You Will,' and I'm interested in hearing what more those two could do if they collaborated from the ground up on another album... but I'd also love to see Christine return. Even if it's for one final studio album with the Mac. |
I think the days of Chris being a part of FM are over. Never say never, but I don't see it happening. But I do miss her very much, and if she came back, I'd be very happy. :D
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I am in denial about Christine leaving.
Anyway is it technically possible for her to leave? Isn't that like divorcing your own family? Actually I don't think she will ever record a whole album with them again. Maybe one song and some harmonies. I'm sure Lindsey would like to spend a few weeks in the English countryside which is all it would take. We just need a coalition of the willing. :laugh: Gail |
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I think there are 2 reasons. the tour and being in England. She doesn't want to stay in the States for long time. So, what about recording in England? I think she doesn't want to force the 4 members to move to England for weeks or months, to record. But if they agree, why not? Now, it would be hard for those who have small children, but everything is possible. And if everybody agree to record in England, and then touring without Chris, we could get finally a wonderful album. |
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I think the only way would/will be when their touring days are over.... :angel: |
Yes, but "there isn't a day..." proves that she'll come back... in my opinion that is.
One day. Soon. |
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She's coming back dammit and that's all there is to it! Put's on blonde wig and grabs yamaha keyboard.... :D |
correct me if I'm wrong!
Btw, she said "there isn't a single day that I don't think about FM" right ?
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So, I agree she has done more than anyone expected! But If she ever wants to just come back and record with the Mac and skip out on touring...that would be fine with me ;) |
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Christine in her mini! remember that pic! that's an oldie but goodie hey illume, do you have any more pics of CM at the vibaphone, or xylaphone? i love those |
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Umm...what exactly am I looking for in my collection of photos? |
I'm going to risk the wrath of other ledgies here and say that I was less than heartbroken when I learned that Christine had left the band (and indeed she HAS left the band which she has stated herself). Her leaving allowed the dynamic and musical focus of the band to change, for the better if you ask me. Their music is harder, faster, more rocking: Much more guitar and bass driven than piano driven, with less focus on vocal harmonies and more focus on the individual singers.
Most importantly for me, it has allowed Lindsey to not only take a larger share of the album space, but to use songs that might not have worked in the old situation. Had there been a stronger feminine influence in the band, I just don't think that a song such as "Come" or even "Murrow" would have made the cut. As it was Stevie tried to keep "Come" off the album and off the tour. As much as I like most of Christine's work and the work that Fleetwood Mac has done with her, I think that the songs that make up Say You Will are some of the best that Lindsey and Stevie have produced - as part of FM or solo - in a very long time. |
To be honest, I've never cared for most of Lindsey's work. I only like a handful of tracks on Say You Will, and they're mostly Stevie's.
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Hmm, how much did SYW sell? I thought so...... Quote:
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As for how much SYW sold and what made them "BIG F*cking stars" that has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making. Christine is very talented and has a knack for writing radio-friendly pop songs. This fact is undeniable. However, I'm not interested in how many records a band sells nor am I interested in radio-friendly pop songs. I have always favored a harder, more edgy style. Therefore, the change in the band's dynamic was a positive thing for me. I was simply stating how I feel about Christine's departure and did my best to give support to my opinion. As for most of the people on this forum hating "Come" and "Murrow" I guess there really is no accounting for taste. |
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I think Homer spoke very well for the rest of us here. :) In my opinion, SYW consisted of 2 solo albums thrown together for marketing purposes. It's gone & forgotten as far as I'm concerned. And, Christine was NOT a back up singer in Fleetwood Mac and Chris, Mick & John were NOT the back up band. The Rumours line-up was made up of 5 equal parts which added up to a wonderful, magical whole.
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The Rumours lineup had a chemistry, a magic all of its own. With Christine gone the balance went with her. I quite like SYW although (I'm going to sound like a stuck record now) it's too long. Now when they play live there's more than one opportunity to go for a wee if you need to. When I saw them at Earls Court my jacket splipped off the back of the seat and fell down outside the seating area. Not to worry I thought I'll fetch it when World Turning comes on. As it happens I went to get it when Come was playing. How convenient! Or have I got that the wrong way round? Gail |
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As for my opinion about the whole thing...she said that she prefers the emphasis on individual voices instead of harmonies, and though I can see that, I just don't feel the same way. I look to the solo albums for emphasis on the individual voices and really, really enjoy the harmonies in Fleetwood Mac, which I often like even more when Christine is involved. I'm not a huge fan of "Come" or "Murrow," but that's me. :shrug: I do think SYW has some of Lindsey's best, though. Even though some of it plays like a solo album to me, couldn't one say the same for his Tusk material? :shrug: |
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Well said. :thumbsup: I don't get all this anger this place has had lately. :shrug: Some people can express themselves, but others can't? I don't get it. And as for Chris.....I wasn't that heartbroken either that she left the band. I'd rather have her happy than have her doing tours/albums that she doesn't want to do to please the fans. Besides, we probably wouldn't have ITM if she stayed. |
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I definitely prefer FM with Christine. I did think SYW was overall, a very good album. Definitely some of Lindsey's best work to date. But for me, it was because of his improved lyrical skills, rather than Christine's departure. I liked most of Stevie's songs. But dare I say, I liked many on TISL better?
But the bottom line is, as much as I miss Chris, I will take FM any way I can get them. Short of Bekka Bramlett. :) |
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I wouldn't mind if she didn't come back. I enjoyed "Say You Will" a whole lot with out her. :sorry: |
I'm not a Christine fan, but a die hard Rumours lineup fan. To me, that lineup is the FLEETWOOD MAC I adore.
So SYW is not one of my fave albums (nor Behind the Mask). I don't see SYW as 2 joined solo albums, but I do realize something is missing, and is not only Chris voice, but the chemistry of the 5 guys working together in a studio, and producing huge albums as Tusk, Rumours or Tango. John and Mick as the rhythm section, Lindsey the architect, Stevie a queen of rock bringing beautiful songs, Christine with other beautiful songs and adding the glue that makes the Fleetwood Mac sound, (yes, to me the Fleetwood Mac sound is not brought by Lindsey, but by the 5 guys) Well the point of this thread was asking if Chris is out of the band. Sadly, to me, she is out, but I know she would be welcome. |
The only thing I miss on syw is Christine's warm voice. But I'd like to say that it's stupid to call it a bad album because she's absent. Everyone agrees that there are some (very) poor songs on it, but on the opposite are very beautiful ones as well. With her in the band it would've been a SUPERB cd, without any weak ones. But hey, syw is sometimes very pleasant and some songs really touch you. Something you cannot say about those idiot "idols" or Britney's.
Rock on gold dust woman! |
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