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Mad4stevie 01-19-2005 09:38 PM

Can Someone ID This Early FM Photo?
 
I saw this on ebay, and figured that it had to be pretty early because Stevie is not in black yet and her hair was still pretty much like it was in the BN days.

Can anyone ID the location?

Ebay auction photo

cliffdweller 01-19-2005 09:59 PM

I've seen that photo before, and you're right, it must be early, maybe one of their very first performances. I kinda like her hair like that. At least the color anyway. I think I like her hair a little darker with blonde streaks the most.

Livia 01-20-2005 10:29 AM

Well, it does say "1975" in the description. :p

skcin 01-20-2005 11:31 AM

They really do look more 73 BN era rather than 75 Mac to me. :shrug:

rbs3676 01-20-2005 11:47 AM

This is from the first tour with FM -- that's definately Mick's drum set and gong in the background.

rbs

MacMan 01-20-2005 12:34 PM

Look at the back of the white Fleetwood Mac cd... Stevie looks just like this with the hair. So I'd say the 1975 tour.

Mad4stevie 01-20-2005 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin
They really do look more 73 BN era rather than 75 Mac to me. :shrug:

I agree just because of how Stevie looks. I was just curious if someone knew the location of the concert photos, based on past photos that they have seen, etc.

AliceLover 01-20-2005 04:20 PM

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I'd def say White Album tour. God i wish there was more footage from it.


Stevie got like 2 songs in the set then, what did she do the whole time?
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joe 01-20-2005 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rbs3676
This is from the first tour with FM -- that's definately Mick's drum set and gong in the background.

rbs


at first i thought it was BN but that drum set has mick written all over it (not literally!) so i'd say it was one of the first performances.

Mad4stevie 01-20-2005 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover
I'd def say White Album tour. God i wish there was more footage from it.


Stevie got like 2 songs in the set then, what did she do the whole time?
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Speaking of footage of their 1975 tour . . . how much video footage is out there from these concerts?

Livia 01-20-2005 06:19 PM

Okay, call me redundant - it CLEARLY says in the item title and in the description - 1975.

"Here is a set of 8 - 4 x 6 color concert photos of Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac taken on their 1975 tour."

Am I the only one around here with attention to detail? Or are y'all questioning whether or not the seller has correct info? And yes, I'm a little overworked and punchy today. :o

Mad4stevie 01-20-2005 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia
Okay, call me redundant - it CLEARLY says in the item title and in the description - 1975.

"Here is a set of 8 - 4 x 6 color concert photos of Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac taken on their 1975 tour."

Am I the only one around here with attention to detail? Or are y'all questioning whether or not the seller has correct info? And yes, I'm a little overworked and punchy today. :o

No - that is not what I mean . . .

As I posted before, I wanted to know where the photos are from. I get that they are on the 1975 tour. I wanted to know the location.

Nightbirdjel 01-20-2005 06:30 PM

I bought a couple of photos from that shoot at a Guitar Show in Arlington, TX several years ago. The guy I bought them from said he didn't take them, but a buddy of his did. I asked him where they were taken and he said he thought they were taken at the Fort Worth Convention Center in 1975. I looked up tour dates on 2 different websites-neither one has any Ft. Worth dates, but there are TWO Dallas dates. :confused: I never saw those photos available again until now. The guy I bought from only had two (of Stevie) and I bought them both. The seller uses Texas in his screen name so maybe it's the same person I bought from. That's all the info I have, and it's pretty vague at best. :sorry:

#6 and #8 are the ones I have-wish I had the whole set!!

Mad4stevie 01-20-2005 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightbirdjel
I bought a couple of photos from that shoot at a Guitar Show in Arlington, TX several years ago. The guy I bought them from said he didn't take them, but a buddy of his did. I asked him where they were taken and he said he thought they were taken at the Fort Worth Convention Center in 1975. I looked up tour dates on 2 different websites-neither one has any Ft. Worth dates, but there are TWO Dallas dates. :confused: I never saw those photos available again until now. The guy I bought from only had two (of Stevie) and I bought them both. The seller uses Texas in his screen name so maybe it's the same person I bought from. That's all the info I have, and it's pretty vague at best. :sorry:

Wow - that is pretty cool info. Thanks!

David 01-20-2005 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightbirdjel
I bought a couple of photos from that shoot at a Guitar Show in Arlington, TX several years ago. The guy I bought them from said he didn't take them, but a buddy of his did. I asked him where they were taken and he said he thought they were taken at the Fort Worth Convention Center in 1975. I looked up tour dates on 2 different websites-neither one has any Ft. Worth dates, but there are TWO Dallas dates. :confused: I never saw those photos available again until now. The guy I bought from only had two (of Stevie) and I bought them both. The seller uses Texas in his screen name so maybe it's the same person I bought from. That's all the info I have, and it's pretty vague at best. :sorry:

They played their first shows throughout Texas during the third week in May. They hit El Paso, Amarillo, Abilene, Dallas, San Antonio & Austin -- all in mid May. It stands to reason they could have played Fort Worth at that time, too.

Nightbirdjel 01-20-2005 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by David
They played their first shows throughout Texas during the third week in May. They hit El Paso, Amarillo, Abilene, Dallas, San Antonio & Austin -- all in mid May. It stands to reason they could have played Fort Worth at that time, too.

Oh man, ANY one of those shows would've been AMAZING to see-especially El Paso, the Very First Show. *SIGH*

Anyway, back to reality-here are the 2 photos I have:

Mad4stevie 01-20-2005 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightbirdjel
Oh man, ANY one of those shows would've been AMAZING to see-especially El Paso, the Very First Show. *SIGH*

Anyway, back to reality-here are the 2 photos I have:

Awesome photos!

For those more up on bootlegs, what is the earliest FM show on audio and video featuring Stevie and Lindsey?

David 01-20-2005 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad4stevie
For those more up on bootlegs, what is the earliest FM show on audio and video featuring Stevie and Lindsey?

In my collection, it's probably the Landover video from August.

A lot of people have San Diego's Balboa Stadium show on their lists (August 31), but it's the King Biscuit show from later that year. There are photos from the Balboa show, however, which you've seen. The Trod Nossel performance isn't as early as the Landover video, either.

Maybe the four Tuscaloosa tracks, which are Buckingham Nicks, were recorded in 1975, after they joined Fleetwood Mac. Buckingham Nicks played some dates in Alabama after joining the Mac in early 1975. If Stevie wrote "Rhiannon" in October 1974, it's hard to believe Buckingham Nicks played Tuscaloosa between then & New Year's Eve.

strandinthewind 01-20-2005 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by David
In my collection, it's probably the Landover video from August.

A lot of people have San Diego's Balboa Stadium show on their lists (August 31), but it's the King Biscuit show from later that year. There are photos from the Balboa show, however, which you've seen. The Trod Nossel performance isn't as early as the Landover video, either.

Maybe the four Tuscaloosa tracks, which are Buckingham Nicks, were recorded in 1975, after they joined Fleetwood Mac. Buckingham Nicks played some dates in Alabama after joining the Mac in early 1975. If Stevie wrote "Rhiannon" in October 1974, it's hard to believe Buckingham Nicks played Tuscaloosa between then & New Year's Eve.

or that LB had even laid two guitar tracks down for it in those three or so months :laugh:

Livia 01-21-2005 09:50 AM

Is the "Who's the New Girl" bootleg from Landover? That's the one I have - I love Stevie's voice on Green Manalishi!

chiliD 01-21-2005 10:39 AM

Who's The New Girl? and Trod Nossel (aka "Live In Wallingford, CT") are all the same performance.

chiliD 01-21-2005 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by David
Maybe the four Tuscaloosa tracks, which are Buckingham Nicks, were recorded in 1975, after they joined Fleetwood Mac. Buckingham Nicks played some dates in Alabama after joining the Mac in early 1975. If Stevie wrote "Rhiannon" in October 1974, it's hard to believe Buckingham Nicks played Tuscaloosa between then & New Year's Eve.

I thought they only played two "final" BN shows in Birmingham. :shrug:

strandinthewind 01-21-2005 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
I thought they only played two "final" BN shows in Birmingham. :shrug:

I did as well. Does anyone have the schedule of those concerts - I am too lazy to look right now :laugh:

David 01-21-2005 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
I thought they only played two "final" BN shows in Birmingham. :shrug:

Welcome back to da chili-maan!!

You raise an interesting point. There are articles that say there were two final shows in Birmingham in '75. Then we've got Mick's book (p 153), which says Lindsey & Stevie, right after joining Mac, were called to headline "a show" in Birmingham. Mick continues: "They played several dates of this great Buckingham Nicks Farewell Tour. At the last show, Lindsey announced that they were joining Fleetwood Mac ..."

There was an article that ran in a free sheet called Birmingham After Dark by Jan Susina called "Buckingham Nicks: Goodbye to the First Eight Years." It was written, or at least published, after the last Buckingham Nicks concert in Birmingham, February 1975 (I don't have a date but it was on a Friday in the Birmingham Municipal Auditorium). Susina also says that it was one of two sellouts at the auditorium during that year -- ambiguous because does it mean there were two Buckingham Nicks sellouts or that one Buckingham Nicks show was one of two sellouts? Susina also implies that Lindsey & Stevie hadn't been back to Alabama since the previous year, when they played shows with Poco. (The other interesting thing about this article is that Stevie gives the writer the impression that she & Lindsey are joining Fleetwood Mac temporarily.)

Mick sort of implies that they didn't find out that they sold out a 6,000-seat hall until after they got to Birmingham. That strains credulity, but I suppose it might have played out that way, or something like that: they didn't know they'd be such a hit in Birmingham, so maybe their booker got them additional gigs throughout Alabama after tickets sold at that one venue. I'm suggesting the possibility that the Tuscaloosa show we have may be from that "Farewell Tour" in 1975 (not 1974, the date on the audio files).

But the dating of "Rhiannon" in relation to all this is just really sticky. Originally, I was assuming "Rhiannon" wasn't even written until October 1974, & thus couldn't possibly have been played at a Buckingham Nicks show before that (although Buckingham Nicks did play Alabama dates as an opening act for Poco & Mountain at some point in 1974, according to Mick).

Stevie has always generally said that she wrote "Rhiannon" a few months before joining Mac -- right around Oct. 31, 1974. But did she? Richard Dashut says (in "My Life & Adventures") that after "Buckingham Nicks" bombed (well after November 1973), the pair moved in with him & worked on demos for "So Afraid," "Monday Morning" & "Rhiannon." Richard implies that this was before Lindsey toured with Don Everly, which Mick says was "early in 1974" (& Stevie says was late in 1974 while she was snowbound in Aspen). Lindsey returned from about six weeks of Don Everly touring down south, & started working with Richard on an album at Sound City. That must have been about when Mick ran into him at the studio (Mick says it was late December 1974).

So maybe Stevie is accurate, & she wrote "Rhiannon" when she said she did (disregard the times in concert when she said she wrote it in 1973 -- her memory scatters onstage). If "Rhiannon" is from the very end of October 1974, how did Buckingham Nicks play in Tuscaloosa AL at some point over the next two months, allegedly while Lindsey & Richard are working out demos at Sound City & Stevie has a brand-new job at Clementine's? I suppose it's possible, but is it likely? They had no money -- they were working at Sound City because of the generosity of the owner -- so how'd they pull a band together & get everybody all the way across the country in such a short time?

All of this sort of makes me think that there's a possibility that the Tuscaloosa show was part of the early 1975 "Farewell Tour," which took place after they joined Fleetwood Mac -- meaning that the answer to somebody's question about the earliest recordings of them after joining FM would be the Tuscaloosa stuff. :eek: :shocked:

strandinthewind 01-21-2005 11:25 PM

Thanks David :cool:

gldstwmn 01-22-2005 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by David
(The other interesting thing about this article is that Stevie gives the writer the impression that she & Lindsey are joining Fleetwood Mac temporarily.)

Oh now, that's funny. :laugh: Maybe she thought she was joining temporarily due to Mick's comments to Herbie Worthington.

Kelly 01-22-2005 10:41 AM

Rhiannon
 
When Stevie intros Rhiannon at the show labelled "Tuscaloosa", (sp?) she does say that the song is "brand new" implying that they just started working on it fairly recently. She then goes on to tell Lindsey not to "play it too fast". This little tidbit probably does not help at all in figuring out when Rhiannon was written in relation to that Alabama show. : > ) I just thought I would throw it out there anyway. She tells the audience she hopes they like it considering that it is "brand new".
When did Lindsey tour with the Everly Brothers? If we knew the dates on that, it could help pinpoint when Stevie was in Aspen writing Landslide and Rhiannon.


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