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The Tower 12-21-2004 10:45 PM

What demo(s) should Stevie put on her next album???
 
Since "Candlebright", "Sorcerer", "Goodbye Baby", "Smile at You", and "Running Through the Garden" managed to leave the vaults-

What Stevie demo would you most like to see come to fruition on her new solo album???

I vote for:

"Baby Doll"

"The Dealer"

and

"Space Needle"

David 12-21-2004 10:49 PM

I would pick my favorites:

The Crystal (somebody just can't seem to get back to it)
All the King's Horeses

GardenStateGirlie 12-21-2004 10:53 PM

The most recent to be leaked...i'm pulling for "My Heart" :nod: Of course, there are many others that deserve a place on that album as well but I just think this song is beautiful.

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
The most recent to be leaked...i'm pulling for "My Heart" :nod: Of course, there are many others that deserve a place on that album as well but I just think this song is beautiful.


Yep - and tinker with it just a little!!!!!!

Space Needle - how they/she have not realized the potential of this song just escapes me to NO end.

The Dealer - only if she would sing it like she meant it!!!!!!! :cool:

GardenStateGirlie 12-21-2004 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Yep - and tinker with it just a little!!!!!!

Space Needle - how they/she have not realized the potential of this song just escapes me to NO end.

The Dealer - only if she would sing it like she meant it!!!!!!! :cool:


Yes...just a tiiiiiny bit of tinkering.

I LOVE Space Needle but for some reason, other than you and I, I haven't heard many people rave about it sadly. It's a long song, yes, but I really love her lyrics and there's something about it that is just gorgeous.

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
Yes...just a tiiiiiny bit of tinkering.

I LOVE Space Needle but for some reason, other than you and I, I haven't heard many people rave about it sadly. It's a long song, yes, but I really love her lyrics and there's something about it that is just gorgeous.

It SOOOOOO reminds me of Sara - the mysticism, the layering, the veiled majesty, the yearing - all of it - to me it screams instant hit!

For that matter, My Heart screams instant hit as well. The lyrics are so personal and yet so universal - I mean who doesn't have or wouldn't want to close their eyes with a flood of emotion when someone speaks a former love's name - that is just beautiful - at least to me.

Interestingly, I think the song SYW - is the same thing - who would not want that electricity of love - that fever dance? I think the production of the song SYW and the lackluster live version - however - limited it :shrug: - BUT the potential was so there with that song.

GateandGarden 12-21-2004 11:17 PM

I'm thinking maybe "The Dealer" and "Belle Fleur."

Hillary

golden braid 12-21-2004 11:21 PM

Definitely Space Needle. It's an amazing song. The Dealer would be cool too. I also love Mistaken Love, If You Were My Love, and Sanctuary but I don't know if I would like new versions as much as I love the old versions.

DeadliestPoison 12-22-2004 12:29 AM

Dear Space Needle,
Your thread is waiting.
Love,
Greg

Moony 12-22-2004 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower
Since "Candlebright", "Sorcerer", "Goodbye Baby", "Smile at You", and "Running Through the Garden" managed to leave the vaults-

What Stevie demo would you most like to see come to fruition on her new solo album???

I vote for:

"Baby Doll"

"The Dealer"

"Space Needle"

:thumbsup: Good choices tower! I would also add "Mistaken Love" and "Lady from the Mountain" !!!! Please Stevie - forget the new songs I want these!

amber 12-22-2004 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moony
:thumbsup: Good choices tower! I would also add "Mistaken Love" and "Lady from the Mountain" !!!! Please Stevie - forget the new songs I want these!

Hey! clean out your mailbox!!!

Johnny Stew 12-22-2004 01:30 AM

I think the time has come for the following songs to see the light of day on an official release....

If You Were My Love
She Still Loves Him
Belle Fleur (with Sheryl Crow producing)
Space Needle
The Dealer
All The Beautiful Worlds

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 01:56 AM

All The Beautiful Worlds

Beautiful Ghost aka The Crystal-I think she could still do it justice

China Doll

If You Were My Love

Julia

The Dealer

Sanctuary

Space Needle

Dial the Number

My Heart

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GateandGarden
"Belle Fleur."

Hillary

Yes but change the name. It sounds like a feminine hygiene product. Oh and I forgot Watchdevil.

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moony
:thumbsup: Good choices tower! I would also add "Mistaken Love" and "Lady from the Mountain" !!!! Please Stevie - forget the new songs I want these!

Ooh good choice. I forgot about those two.

glitter_fades 12-22-2004 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
The most recent to be leaked...i'm pulling for "My Heart" :nod: Of course, there are many others that deserve a place on that album as well but I just think this song is beautiful.

If this gets released with that awful backwards metaphor intact it will ruin an otherwise decent song. This is one case where Stevie needs to change her lyrics no matter how pretty she thinks they sound. It's not a matter of poetry. Leaving that line the way it is, (the one about the windows like eyes to the soul) well, it's too ignorant even for Stevie.

Johnny Stew 12-22-2004 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by glitter_fades
If this gets released with that awful backwards metaphor intact it will ruin an otherwise decent song. This is one case where Stevie needs to change her lyrics no matter how pretty she thinks it sounds the way it is. It's not a matter of poetry. Leaving that line the way it is, well, it's too damn ignorant even for Stevie.

"EYE-AYES.... like the windows to the soul...."

Nah. I have to say I prefer it the way she sang it, even if the metaphor is backwards.
'Sides, Alanis Morrisette wrote an entire song about irony and never once mentioned anything that was legitimately ironic. Yet, the song was still quite popular! (Ok, now maybe THAT'S ironic. ;) )

glitter_fades 12-22-2004 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
"EYE-AYES.... like the windows to the soul...."

Nah. I have to say I prefer it the way she sang it, even if the metaphor is backwards.

It just invites sniping by those who can't take anything she says seriously becasue she seems to have nothing serious to say.
Her poetic license needs to be revoked for verbal abuse. :sorry:

amber 12-22-2004 02:51 AM

I think we're ignoring another elephant in the room as far as My Heart goes. The strainy, strainy vocals which start the song out, and also pop up later to make unwelcome guest appearances. The Fyvush Finkel of vocals...
:confused:

Johnny Stew 12-22-2004 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitter_fades
It just invites sniping by those who can't take anything she says seriously becasue she seems to have nothing serious to say.

Eh, who cares what they think! :lol:
If it sounds good, SING IT. :nod: :D ;)

glitter_fades 12-22-2004 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
If it sounds good, SING IT. :nod: :D ;)

Not if it makes her sound like an ignorant fool. Stevie needs to care more about such things at this point in her career. There's a difference between figurative language and literal meaning. If you speak figuratively throughout a song then it isn't a big deal if things aren't worded properly, but if you're speaking literally you can't just throw people a curve like that. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Those lyrics are as literal and blunt as anything she's ever written. She needs to keep things flowing in that direction. A huge brain fart like that is unnerving unless you're trying to taunt your audience.
Stevie turned punk behind my back? :lol:

Johnny Stew 12-22-2004 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by glitter_fades
Not if it makes her sound like an ignorant fool. Stevie needs to care more about such things at this point in her career.

Eh, I still feel that if you wrote the song, and your name is on the song, and you think it sounds good, and you're happy with it, then phrase it however you wanna phrase it.
It might get criticized, but at least you did it your way.

Life sucks when you spend too much time worrying about what other people will think, or when you expend considerable amounts of energy trying to please everyone. Trust me, I know.

But anyway, I just had this debate a week or two ago, so I don't want to get into it again. :xoxo:

strandinthewind 12-22-2004 06:40 AM

It is ROCK AND ROLL people :laugh: Sheebus :rolleyes:

Did ya ever stop to think that maybe she is looking through a window clandestinely at him (presumably LB) doing something with someone (like playing with his kids) and is saying that window is like an eye to the soul of LB - in other words, he is revealing it by being carefree and without the reservation of one being watched :shrug: Or, maybe she is talking about the windows of time that they have had together and looking back through them is like looking at eyes to the soul.

Those are both very poetic and very grammatically correct AND all three are beautiful to me and apparently alot of other people.

GROWL - it is like 6:30 a.m. and I have been at work for an hour - so I am a little grumpy :xoxo: :wavey: :laugh: :p

GODDESS6 12-22-2004 07:20 AM

MAKER OF THE BIRDS AKA THE THREE BIRDS OF RHIANNON
CHANEL, CHANEL
WATCHDEVIL
LADY FROM THE MOUNTAIN
SPACE NEEDLE
JULIA
MY HEART
wow there r so many but here are a few~ tho i love listening 2 the studio released stuff, the demos r what :] freak :] 4~

joe 12-22-2004 08:32 AM

Lady from the Mountain
China Doll
Mistanken Love

GateandGarden 12-22-2004 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Yes but change the name. It sounds like a feminine hygiene product. Oh and I forgot Watchdevil.

I doubt she'd think twice about that if she willingly sang "My walls are flaming." :laugh:

Hillary

The Tower 12-22-2004 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe
Mistanken Love

Is this the "updated for the 21st century" version of this song with guest stars Missy Elliott, Mary J. Blige, Xtina Aguilera and Li'l Kims???

"Mistanken love!
It was stanken love!!
Frustrizzle-stanken love!!!

Ohhh, sing it child!

Frustrizzle-stanken love!
It was stanken love!!
Well, I waited for yo' skanky, stankey ass-
But I've decided to ride away on the wind in my pimped out Cadillac!

{insert wails ala Mariah Carey here}

{segues to Li'l Kims rap on memories, earthquakes and the flashing of her boobs to Diana Ross}"

skcin 12-22-2004 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower
Is this the "updated for the 21st century" version of this song with guest stars Missy Elliott, Mary J. Blige, Xtina Aguilera and Li'l Kims???

"Mistanken love!
It was stanken love!!
Frustrizzle-stanken love!!!

Ohhh, sing it child!

Frustrizzle-stanken love!
It was stanken love!!
Well, I waited for yo' skanky, stankey ass-
But I've decided to ride away on the wind in my pimped out Cadillac!

{insert wails ala Mariah Carey here}

{segues to Li'l Kims rap on memories, earthquakes and the flashing of her boobs to Diana Ross}"

Bwwwwaaaahhhhaaahhhhaa! :lol: :laugh: :lol:

It was the "stanken love" line that did it for me.

I love many unreleased Stevie tunes, but I will list the ones I really think she could still do & do very well, and would fit in perfectly on a new album, IMO.

Space Needle
Lady From the Mountain
Blue Water
Watchdevil (I would LOVE to hear the "beware of the danger..." verse in her current voice. :nod: )

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GateandGarden
I doubt she'd think twice about that if she willingly sang "My walls are flaming." :laugh:

Hillary

True! :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17 12-22-2004 12:37 PM

-Secret Love
-My Heart
-Chanel Chanel
-IYWML
-Mistaken Love
-Christian (Spinning Wheels)

GateandGarden 12-22-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower
Is this the "updated for the 21st century" version of this song with guest stars Missy Elliott, Mary J. Blige, Xtina Aguilera and Li'l Kims???

"Mistanken love!
It was stanken love!!
Frustrizzle-stanken love!!!

Ohhh, sing it child!

Frustrizzle-stanken love!
It was stanken love!!
Well, I waited for yo' skanky, stankey ass-
But I've decided to ride away on the wind in my pimped out Cadillac!

{insert wails ala Mariah Carey here}

{segues to Li'l Kims rap on memories, earthquakes and the flashing of her boobs to Diana Ross}"

OMG that's hilarious! :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh:

Hillary

AliP 12-22-2004 12:57 PM

Knockin' on Doors
Blue Water
The Dealer
Watchdevil
Sanctuary
Julia

skcin 12-22-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliP
Knockin' on Doors

Damn - forgot that one! Great choice

I'll also concur with If You Were My Love :nod:

riff_Shuffler 12-22-2004 02:35 PM

I personally think that the next album should be called "Space Needle." The lyrics seem to fit nicely for an artist who has matured and seen alot of the good and bad of rock 'n roll (of course, it all depends on what theme Stevie decides to go for, ala Shangri~La).

Here are some songs that I would love to hear:

Space Needle
Lady From The Mountain
Sanctuary
The Dealer (with Tom Petty)
She Loves Him Still
All The Beautiful Worlds
Mistaken Love
My Heart

Another idea - Stevie mentioned in the "Ask Stevie" answers that she would like to see remastered special editions of Bella Donna, The Wild Heart, etc. put out possibly next year... I would love for demos like The Dealer and Julia and Belle Fleur to be included. Casual fans (and the mass market) could then get some history of these demos as they hear them, as well as some new versions, for the first time. For example, Planets Of The Universe, from TISL and Rumours Remastered. Wouldn't this rock everybody and everything?! ;)

-Josh

skcin 12-22-2004 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by riff_Shuffler
Another idea - Stevie mentioned in the "Ask Stevie" answers that she would like to see remastered special editions of Bella Donna, The Wild Heart, etc. put out possibly next year... I would love for demos like The Dealer and Julia and Belle Fleur to be included. Casual fans (and the mass market) could then get some history of these demos as they hear them, as well as some new versions, for the first time. For example, Planets Of The Universe, from TISL and Rumours Remastered. Wouldn't this rock everybody and everything?! ;)

-Josh


The Stevie demos that ended up on the remasters were all for songs that ended up officially released on albums. Stevie has said she doesn't like people to hear her stuff until it's done, so I think the reason we got to hear these early gems is that we've already heard the official releases. This leads me to believe that there's still a chance that other demos may still be reworked & put out on a brand new album. I'd prefer it that way. THEN after her new album comes out, she can go ahead & put the demos out on some remasters! :p

I just think that if she puts the demos on the remasters first, there'll be no hope of new versions of those demos ending up on a new album - it'd be like she's giving up on them or something. JMO.

Serrart 12-22-2004 06:24 PM

Space Needle
My Heart
Christian
Joan Of Arc
Space Needle
Chanel, Chanel
She Loves Him Still
China Doll
Space Needle
Julia
The Dealer
Prettiest Girl in The World
Blue Water

... Did I mention Space Needle? :D

Romy

GardenStateGirlie 12-22-2004 06:34 PM

How can I possibly forget Chanel, Chanel?!? I am so in love with that demo. I just wish her lyrics were slightly more audible but I think if she went into the studio and recorded that it would be AMAZING :nod:

GardenStateGirlie 12-22-2004 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
It is ROCK AND ROLL people :laugh: Sheebus :rolleyes:

Did ya ever stop to think that maybe she is looking through a window clandestinely at him (presumably LB) doing something with someone (like playing with his kids) and is saying that window is like an eye to the soul of LB - in other words, he is revealing it by being carefree and without the reservation of one being watched :shrug: Or, maybe she is talking about the windows of time that they have had together and looking back through them is like looking at eyes to the soul.

Those are both very poetic and very grammatically correct AND all three are beautiful to me and apparently alot of other people.

GROWL - it is like 6:30 a.m. and I have been at work for an hour - so I am a little grumpy :xoxo: :wavey: :laugh: :p

Ahh Jason...see...you can think outside of the box :thumbsup: Without sitting here and speculating who it's about (*ahem ahem* Lindsey ;) ), I think it truly is a beautiful song that seems to be coming from her heart (pardon the pun) and apparently means a lot to her. So, with that having been said, regardless of whether or not she chose to put the metaphor into the song backwards or if it was a mistake, she didn't just sit down and write just to write...the Stevie we know writes for a reason--perhaps to her it did make sense (and what you're saying certainly makes sense) and I think it can mean something to others who were perhaps in a similar situation that she found herself in.

David 12-22-2004 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riff_Shuffler
I personally think that the next album should be called "Space Needle." The lyrics seem to fit nicely for an artist who has matured and seen alot of the good and bad of rock 'n roll (of course, it all depends on what theme Stevie decides to go for, ala Shangri~La).

I think Stevie's next album should be a mystical, magickal album, filled with faerie-dust, unicorns & ghostly stars & bells. I would call it "Shadow Light Chiffon."

Speaking of what theme she should do next for the solo CD. What are your thoughts?

Serrart 12-22-2004 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
Speaking of what theme she should do next for the solo CD. What are your thoughts?

"World on the verge of a nervous breakdown?" ;)

Romy


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