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gldstwmn 12-21-2004 08:42 PM

Bush Monkey Picture Shown on Giant NY Billboard
 
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U.S. National - Reuters

Bush Monkey Picture Shown on Giant NY Billboard

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A portrait of President Bush using monkeys to form his image that was banished from a New York art show last week amid charges of censorship was projected on a giant billboard in Manhattan on Tuesday.

"Bush Monkeys," a small acrylic on canvas by Chris Savido, created the stir last week at the Chelsea Market public space, leading the market's managers to close down the 60-piece show.

Animal Magazine, a quarterly arts publication that had organized the month-long show, said anonymous donors had paid for the picture to be posted on a giant digital billboard over the entrance to the Holland Tunnel, used by thousands of commuters traveling between Manhattan and New Jersey.

The original picture will be auctioned on eBay, with part of the proceeds donated to parents of U.S. soldiers wishing to supply their sons and daughters with body armor in Iraq.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld came under fire from soldiers in Kuwait earlier this month who complained that they had to use scrap metal to armor their vehicles.

"Many of my friends are over in Iraq," Savido said in a statement.

The painting offers a likeness of Bush but the image is made up of monkeys swimming in a marsh. It was originally priced at $3,500 in the show's catalog.

Organizers expect more than 400,000 drivers to see the billboard each day for the next month.

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 08:43 PM

Fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ontheEdgeof17 12-21-2004 08:52 PM

It may be trying to prove a point or what-not, but this is getting out of hand. I don't like Bush,either but he IS our President, whether we like it or not. It's time to grow up and fight like adults. We need to be the better man in the situation.

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
It may be trying to prove a point or what-not, but this is getting out of hand. I don't like Bush,either but he IS our President, whether we like it or not. It's time to grow up and fight like an adult. We need to be the better man in the situation.

I agree - but the reason I thought it was great that they showed the pic. was due to the censorship - nothing else!!! :cool:

EDIT: I agree we should rally behind our country and he, unfortunately, is the leader. So, I think speaking out against him and his insane, bigoted, and murderous policies is not so much a disrespect for him as it is the horrible job he is doing, which deserves NO respect IMO. I mean if I met the guy, I would maintain proper decorum - but I would and will continue to speak out against his policies :cool:

Oooooo - another policital debate thread!!!!!!! :eek:

ryan8472 12-21-2004 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
It may be trying to prove a point or what-not, but this is getting out of hand. I don't like Bush,either but he IS our President, whether we like it or not. It's time to grow up and fight like an adult. We need to be the better man in the situation.

I totally agree, Curtis. But it sure is funny :nod: :laugh:

GateandGarden 12-21-2004 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I mean if I met the guy, I would maintain proper decorum - but I would and will continue to speak out against his policies :cool:

That's very good of you, 'cause I'm not sure I could do that. I often fantasize about all the choice words I would have if I ever encountered him.
:blob1: :blob2:

Hillary

EnchantedSLN 12-21-2004 09:16 PM

Hey, it's art. If Clear Channel can erect nazi-esque "Our Leader." billboards all over the south, why not this? Good for them. Hell, I'd have gone a step further and made it the painting that recently appeared on the cover of the Village Voice.

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden
That's very good of you, 'cause I'm not sure I could do that. I often fantasize about all the choice words I would have if I ever encountered him.
:blob1: :blob2:

Hillary

I have met MANY people I am not too fond of - usually in a social setting like a party. I think if I am in someone else's party, home, etc., it would be impolite of me to go into attack mode. So, usually the discourse is "May I present blah blah" and I say "Well Hello" and nothing more :laugh: Maybe it was the way I was reared but, although I probably would like to :laugh: - I would never unless provoked - and even then I doubt it :laugh: I mean if I know a certain person is going to be there and I know I cannot control myself - I will not go :shrug:

GateandGarden 12-21-2004 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I have met MANY people I am not too fond of - usually in a social setting like a party. I think if I am in someone else's party, home, etc., it would be impolite of me to go into attack mode. So, usually the discourse is "May I present blah blah" and I say "Well Hello" and nothing more :laugh: Maybe it was the way I was reared but, although I probably would like to :laugh: - I would never unless provoked - and even then I doubt it :laugh: I mean if I know a certain person is going to be there and I know I cannot control myself - I will not go :shrug:

Well, I really am like you in that sense. I just make an exception for Dubya. But, because of that, I would probably just make myself scarce so I wouldn't have the opportunity to speak my mind, as you were saying.

Hillary

estranged4life 12-21-2004 10:14 PM

Dare I sing it???
 
"George...
George...
George of the Jungle...
Watch out for that tree..."

:thumbsup:

Brian j.

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden
Well, I really am like you in that sense. I just make an exception for Dubya. But, because of that, I would probably just make myself scarce so I wouldn't have the opportunity to speak my mind, as you were saying.

Hillary

Ahhhhhh - we Louisianians were reared correctly!!! :nod: :laugh: :wavey:

The Tower 12-21-2004 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
It may be trying to prove a point or what-not, but this is getting out of hand. I don't like Bush,either but he IS our President, whether we like it or not. It's time to grow up and fight like adults. We need to be the better man in the situation.

Not a chance in hell!!!

He isn't my president. A paramecium is a better man than ****tard Dubya. There isn't anything I can do to lower myself to his level. His evil knows no bounds and anything that will point that out sounds good to me.

macfanken 12-21-2004 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Not a chance in hell!!!

He isn't my president. A paramecium is a better man than ****tard Dubya. There isn't anything I can do to lower myself to his level. His evil knows no bounds and anything that will point that out sounds good to me.


What he said! :nod:

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Not a chance in hell!!!

He isn't my president. A paramecium is a better man than ****tard Dubya. There isn't anything I can do to lower myself to his level. His evil knows no bounds and anything that will point that out sounds good to me.

:laugh: :laugh: I was going to speculate your answer earlier - I would have been close :laugh:

Sadly, he is the American President, which means technically and factually he is our Pres. - but I am not so sure he is in anything but in the titular sense because he sure as hell represents NOTHING I believe in :mad:

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life
"George...
George...
George of the Jungle...
Watch out for that tree..."

:thumbsup:

Brian j.

LMAO - I am envisioning a loin cloth and Laura with a bone as a bow in her hair - Poor Barney (the ONLY good thing about the White House) as Dino :eek:

GateandGarden 12-21-2004 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Not a chance in hell!!!

He isn't my president. A paramecium is a better man than ****tard Dubya. There isn't anything I can do to lower myself to his level. His evil knows no bounds and anything that will point that out sounds good to me.

That's exactly how I feel, too. He may technically be the president, but he's not my president. The last election was the first one I ever voted in, and I like to continuously point out that I didn't vote for him.

Hillary

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden
That's exactly how I feel, too. He may technically be the president, but he's not my president. The last election was the first one I ever voted in, and I like to continuously point out that I didn't vote for him.

Hillary

That is what I just tried to say - only you said it WAY better :cool: I mean I used the word "titular" :eek: :laugh: :rolleyes:

GateandGarden 12-21-2004 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
That is what I just tried to say - only you said it WAY better :cool: I mean I used the word "titular" :eek: :laugh: :rolleyes:

Nothing at all wrong with titular. :laugh:

strandinthewind 12-21-2004 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden
Nothing at all wrong with titular. :laugh:

LOL - I used it as an insult in court the other day and it has been stuck in my head ever since :laugh:

estranged4life 12-21-2004 11:34 PM

Personally...
 
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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
LMAO - I am envisioning a loin cloth and Laura with a bone as a bow in her hair - Poor Barney (the ONLY good thing about the White House) as Dino :eek:

Barney's poo is the only intelligent thing currently in the White House besides Barney :rolleyes:

Brian "New, from Stupid spoiled skanky hoe's home video, "The Bush twins" in Skank girls gone wild...Watch 'em Binge drink like a chip off the ol' Bush block" j.

amber 12-22-2004 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
It may be trying to prove a point or what-not, but this is getting out of hand. I don't like Bush,either but he IS our President, whether we like it or not. It's time to grow up and fight like adults. We need to be the better man in the situation.

I completely disagree. I think this country is too complacent. It's ridiculous to stand behind a liar, thief, warmonger, etc,. We should be calling him out for his heinous misdeeds at every opportunity. That man is supposed to lead our country and do what's best. It is our duty as citizens to make sure that happens. :wavey: to do otherwise is to not be a good American.

GateandGarden 12-22-2004 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by amber
I completely disagree. I think this country is too complacent. It's ridiculous to stand behind a liar, thief, warmonger, etc,. We should be calling him out for his heinous misdeeds at every opportunity. That man is supposed to lead our country and do what's best. It is our duty as citizens to make sure that happens. :wavey: to do otherwise is to not be a good American.

I think Curtis was critcizing the manner of the attack, not the fact that he was being attacked, if that makes sense. :laugh: I don't think he has any problems with us criticizing the president, so long as we do it in a more intelligent way than depicting him as a monkey on a billboard for laughs. I say bring on all the criticism, even the immature kind! :D But I still think he has a valid argument because we ought to make a point of expressing why we hate him so much, not because he happens to resemble a monkey but because of his policies. Not that it would do us any good. People still voted him in for four more. :rolleyes:

Hillary

amber 12-22-2004 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden
I think Curtis was critcizing the manner of the attack, not the fact that he was being attacked, if that makes sense. :laugh: I don't think he has any problems with us criticizing the president, so long as we do it in a more intelligent way than depicting him as a monkey on a billboard for laughs. I say bring on all the criticism, even the immature kind! :D But I still think he has a valid argument because we ought to make a point of expressing why we hate him so much, not because he happens to resemble a monkey but because of his policies. Not that it would do us any good. People still voted him in for four more. :rolleyes:

Hillary

yeah, i thought about that. After i posted, of course. But although there are more intelligent ways to criticize someone, sometimes art is a powerful tool to achieve such ends, as well. :shrug:

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
It may be trying to prove a point or what-not, but this is getting out of hand. I don't like Bush,either but he IS our President, whether we like it or not. It's time to grow up and fight like adults. We need to be the better man in the situation.

Make sure you tell them that when they come for you honey. ;) :wavey:

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I mean if I met the guy, I would maintain proper decorum

No one gets near him without a big fat sack of cash. I wouldn't shake his hand. :distress:

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by amber
I completely disagree. I think this country is too complacent. It's ridiculous to stand behind a liar, thief, warmonger, etc,. We should be calling him out for his heinous misdeeds at every opportunity. That man is supposed to lead our country and do what's best. It is our duty as citizens to make sure that happens. :wavey: to do otherwise is to not be a good American.

Amber nails it again. :thumbsup:

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden
People still voted him in for four more.
Hillary

Not really.

Johnny Stew 12-22-2004 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by amber
I completely disagree. I think this country is too complacent. It's ridiculous to stand behind a liar, thief, warmonger, etc,. We should be calling him out for his heinous misdeeds at every opportunity. That man is supposed to lead our country and do what's best. It is our duty as citizens to make sure that happens. :wavey: to do otherwise is to not be a good American.

I can't speak for Curtis (and, man, the tongues would sure be wagging if I did! :laugh: ), but I don't think he was implying that we should just sit back and take it... I think he simply meant that we should voice our displeasure, and try to inact positive changes, in more mature ways than chimp comparisons, etc.

A point that I definitely agree with. (Though I must admit I do find the chimp comparisons pretty dang funny! :o )

amber 12-22-2004 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
I can't speak for Curtis (and, man, the tongues would sure be wagging if I did! :laugh: ), but I don't think he was implying that we should just sit back and take it... I think he simply meant that we should voice our displeasure, and try to inact positive changes, in more mature ways than chimp comparisons, etc.

A point that I definitely agree with. (Though I must admit I do find the chimp comparisons pretty dang funny! :o )

You're right. And your point was taken the first time around when it was called "Hillary's post" :lol: :lol: sorry, just kidding. :xoxo:

strandinthewind 12-22-2004 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
No one gets near him without a big fat sack of cash.

and that makes him different from any other politician/President how . . . :laugh: :wavey: :laugh: :wavey:

strandinthewind 12-22-2004 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Not really.


Though I readily admit there were enough errors and lies in Ohio and Florida to constitute R fraud, I still do not think anyone has found over three million miscast votes that were 100% supposed to be cast for Kerry and that Kerry kept all of his votes (e.g. none were miscast for him due to malfeasance or simple irregularities) ? Thus, despite this IMO fraud, for which someone should atone, I cannot conclude Kerry would have won even if it were all straightenend out (and it should be mind you).

Trust me when I say as a member of the conspiracy theorist society :cool: (levity here) I think it sucks and I think the election was tinkered with, but I also think that despite the clear malfeasance, esp. in Ohio, I think existed on both sides (seemingly no one is looking too hard at the alleged D malfeasance) and other errors, the people elected W - and for that I think they are IDIOTS who will latch onto anything their church tells them to latch on to :mad: Thus, I gotta conclude we the people on the whole elected this idiot, bigoted, warmonger in for four more years. I cannot believe people are dumb enough to do that, but they did.

I guess maybe I have moved on from denial, to anger, to acceptance :laugh:

SuzeQuze 12-22-2004 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
:laugh: :laugh: I was going to speculate your answer earlier - I would have been close :laugh:

Sadly, he is the American President, which means technically and factually he is our Pres. - but I am not so sure he is in anything but in the titular sense because he sure as hell represents NOTHING I believe in :mad:

The painting is art and it was censored so the backers had to find some way to display it since it was pulled. Of course they're going to want to kick it up a notch after being snuffed out in such a way. Besides, the President said in Time that he welcomes criticism, he gets something out of it. Also, he needs to know what people think of him anyway since it's his responsiblity to serve the people. Although he seems to think it is to rule the people but whatever.

Thank God for art, we need it to express things that maybe "well-reared" people do not want to say.

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
Although he seems to think it is to rule the people but whatever.
Thank God for art, we need it to express things that maybe "well-reared" people do not want to say.

That's right honey. The people in the original thirteen didn't take any **** from the King George III and they're not about to tolerate any from some half wit named George who thinks he's king.

SuzeQuze 12-22-2004 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
That's right honey. The people in the original thirteen didn't take any **** from the King George III and they're not about to tolerate any from some half wit named George who thinks he's king.

Right on! He's one scary ____. Check this one out, he doesn't want to "negotiate with myself". Wha???

http://www.boston.com/news/odd/artic...self_for_bush/

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
Right on! He's one scary ____. Check this one out, he doesn't want to "negotiate with myself". Wha???

http://www.boston.com/news/odd/artic...self_for_bush/

He had another quote the other day where he said "I don't have much time left." I'm thinking let's hope so. :lol:

estranged4life 12-22-2004 12:23 PM

No!
 
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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
He had another quote the other day where he said "I don't have much time left." I'm thinking let's hope so. :lol:

I dont wanna see, Or even comprehend a possible President Cheney...Who will then change the country's name to the United States of Hella-Burton (aka United State of Confusion)!!!

Brian j.

gldstwmn 12-22-2004 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life
I dont wanna see, Or even comprehend a possible President Cheney...Who will then change the country's name to the United States of Hella-Burton (aka United State of Confusion)!!!

Brian j.

I'm hoping for some kind of Nixon/Agnew redux. :woohoo:

estranged4life 12-22-2004 12:44 PM

Personally...
 
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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
I'm hoping for some kind of Nixon/Agnew redux. :woohoo:

I want to have "Star Trek" technology and beam 'em the hell outta here :thumbsup:

Brian "Ah Captain...The transporter, It be a pile of ****" j.

strandinthewind 12-22-2004 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
Thank God for art, we need it to express things that maybe "well-reared" people do not want to say.

That is a little unfair - many of these "well reared" people privately fund such artists :shrug:

SuzeQuze 12-22-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
That is a little unfair - many of these "well reared" people privately fund such artists :shrug:

If someone were financing this artist and not appreciating the content of his art then the artist would need another financier.

What I meant by my "well reared" comment was civilized people don't want to necessarily call the president out (I wasn't making fun of well raised people). But artists can express uncivilized things because it is their job to translate what is in their hearts into a creation to share.

Some folks are really afraid of this president's strange methods and decisions but won't or don't know how to publicly express it. The artist has every right to do this and I am glad he did because he has made a point and gotten attention. No way would I think that he shouldn't even if it is shocking or controversial.

IMO the American people have been asleep while this president began an unjust war, slowly erodes civil liberties, and recklessly spends our hard earned tax dollars. Maybe some people need to be shocked a little to wake up.


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