Sucky News for Rumours.
 

Shania Twain goes Double Diamond


by Paul Cashmere

10 December 2004

Shania Twain's 'Come On Over' album has jumped past The Beatles 'White Album', AC/DC's 'Back In Black' and Fleetwood Mac 'Rumours' to become the 6th biggest selling album of all time in the USA.

'Come On Over' has been certified Double Diamond for sales exceeding 20 million. (Diamond is awarded at 10 million sales, Platinum in the USA is for sales over 1 million).

Shania's album as a double diamond release is in exclusive company sitting behind The Eagles 'Their Greatest Hits' at 28 million, Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' and 26 million, Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' at 23 million, Led Zeppelin 'IV' at 22 million and Billy Joel's 'Greatest Hits' at 21 million.

The Diamond certification was first awarded in 1999. Unlike the Australian ARIA certifications, the American system is based on sales to the public. Elton John commented at the inaugural certification ceremony "I think this is the biggest accolade you can be given because it means your fans have gone out and bought your records. And that's why we make records - for our public."

The first person to receive a Gold Award was Perry Como for 'Catch A Falling Star' on March 15, 1958.

The first platinum single was awarded to Johnny Taylor for 'Disco Lady' in 1976. The first platinum album was The Eagles 'Their Greatest Hits'.

Yeah, that does suck. But hopefully witht the reissues Rumours will be able to hit 20 million soon.

Wow, I had no idea she was so popular!!!

I think Shania is a good artist, but she's not in the same league as the others IMO. She released practically every song from Come on Over as a single....very smart move. She seems like a nice person, though. I don't have anything against her.

I agree. I like Shania Twain and there's something in many Canadian's like myself that almost forces us to like her for the mere fact that she IS Canadian. She has a nice success story. But, she is NOT in the same rank with the other artists. Oh well...

I have Come On Over...I don't listen to it anymore. Needless to say I have Rumours. So she doesn't win in my house.

That's our girl! :blob1: Sorry, it's a Canadian thing!

Well...
 

Yeah, even I got to admit that Come On Over was a pretty good album. "That Don't Impress Me Much" was a danmed catchy song that I really liked back when it was released. Is it in the same league as Rumours, NO, but I can see it being sucha big seller.

..........

:nod:

The brain child behind Shania's success is her husband Robert Mutt Lange :nod:

Plus, there's more people now to buy stuff... :) Is it population adjusted? :laugh:

I am a fellow canuck and I say congrats to Shania! My thing is though 20 years from now people will remember Rumours. But will they remember Come On Over?

That is exactly how I feel too! Shania may be good, but she is no Fleetwood Mac, and Come On Over is NO Rumours! ;)

I kinda like Shania, but I have heard "rumours" she is starting to get "not very nice" in the personal department. It's a shame when they start going nutsy as the fame and money come in. Why can't they all be like John McVie and stay down to earth? *sigh*

:laugh: Yea, I guess that's true. But on the other hand how many extra copies of Rumours have been sold because it's spanned the media formats of vinyl, 8-tracks, cassettes, cds, and remastered bonus track editions. I think I've bought at least five copies of Rumours myself over the years. Needless to say though Rumours is one of the best classic albums of all time.

Ms.Twain is not even close to being in the same league as our Mac, but I gotta give her credit...
She sings,she plays,she writes,she's pretty,charitable,she's about 40 AND she came from nothing.
I gotta give the girl the two thumbs up.

I don't hate Shania - but to me all of her songs sound the same - so to me - she reissuing the same damn songs over and over again with different names.....her slow songs all sound the same and same for the fast ones - it aggravates the crap out of me....

Yeah, I gotta agree. If one of the country goddesses has to pass my Mac, then I'd rather it be her than Faith, sorry :nod:

It does piss me off that no where on the web can I find accurate worldwide album sales, instead of just sales in America.

Charitable, my ass. She expects charity from the very charities she "donates" to and "helps." :mad:

And what musical boundaries is she pushing? None. Folks, it's MASS marketing. Welcome to 2004. Nothing aurally offensive. Sexy spokeswoman. Walmart's America. Buy me...
But, I would say the same thing about Wacko Jacko. Who here can tell me that- artistically- Shania holds a candle to these other artists at the top of the list? FM, Pink Floyd(my god, the Wall is a masterpiece!), even the Eagles(who were certainly pushing the envelopes of country rock).
Mass marketed pop fodder. :distress:

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Are you Kidding???????????

Beaten by Shania Twain. Wow. Im really speechless now. Im sorry I thik she really sucks. Whats next Britney #1?????????


Jimmy

I was just going to say that. Are you kidding? She's not only not in the same league, but I don't even think she's playing in the same game. Sorry but I also think she sucks. "That Don't Impress Me Much" was painful to listen to. Bad enough she beat out Rumours, but the Beatles too? Give me a break!

Lindsey said it best "What's the world coming to?" :confused:

Have you been mooning needy people?;)...
Are we talking about possible physical favors she might engage in with Robert Lange before he works on one of her albums?:)
But seriously,no lie. A while back there was this segment on Shania on one of those news magazines...
At any rate, while on tour she visits a local charitable type organization/center and volounteers(sp?) for about an hour or something. It's like a daily thing.

Based on discussions we had awhile back, Dissention thinks anyone that gets anything from a charity in return for their services or donation is horrible. He refuses to accept that this happens all of the time and that the charities readily accept this as the star's attraction will net them many times the amount they pay the star. He thinks the stars should pay to fly themselves there, pay for their lodging, etc.

Having said that, from what you said her volunteer work is a great and unrenumerated thing :cool: So, in that instance, Diss. is wrong - just as he was wrong about Michael Jackson having only little boys over to spend the night :p Hmmmm . . twice in two days - what's up with that Diss :wavey:

Um...
 

I read an interview with her and she said she basically has no sex drive. It was fairly surprising. They were talking about her sexpot image and it was ironic to her, considering that she felt her sex drive was very low to non existent. I think it was a Rolling Stone interview.

You poor, deluded little creature. :laugh:

There's a difference between refusing to accept that things like that happen all the time and refusing to accept it on a moral level. It's no secret that stars who "help" charities get things in return, so I fail to see where you're coming from. It's not that I refuse to accept that, it's that I refuse to condone it because I find it morally corrupt.

Shania Twain is famous for her diva demands when it comes to charitable organizations, it's no secret how she acts and what she demands. There is also a difference between a charitable organization paying for travel and a charitable organization paying for first-class travel. There is quite a difference between a charitable organization paying for lodging and paying for five-star hotel suites and footing the room service bill. There is quite a difference between a charitable organization giving their celebs fruit baskets as thank-you's and giving them Rolex watches and diamond earrings. Call it what you want, but it's disgusting and the "stars" who partake in it should be ashamed of themselves as human beings. Maybe instead of demanding such unnecessary and tacky things, they should demand that the money that would have been used to pamper their sorry asses stays in the organization and pays for a wheelchair for someone who needs one and can't afford it.

It's a question of morality.

Sex with her looks as if it would be as satisfying as doing it with a cold fish. :wavey:

In the words of Stevie...
 

well, especially now that she's said she actually is one. :shrug:

I'm sure Shania is a nice person, she seems sweet enough in interviews.. As pointed out earlier her husband Mutt Lange is very much a part of her success, as he was in making Def Lepperd a success too.

However, for me she lives up to exactly what Lindsey didn't want to do after the success of Rumours which is to take the formula and run it into the ground.. Everything she sings sounds exactly the same to me.. It's like Coke or Pepsi, people like the taste and it sells ****loads so why change it?

She might break records but she ain't a creative artist..

:wavey:

The momentum
 

If the point is about records, I think the goal was at the momentum. Rumours was a phenomenom, as Thriller or Saturday Night Fever were. You can't compare (sales) a 2004 album against a 1977 album. RUMOURS RULED!!!!!

^Yeah what she said.^

She's still a good singer though. You know, catchy, tuneful. I mean, i don't like her that much, but I can see why someone would listen to her..

you're right, there are. But I think she's for sure better than Britney. I've definitely enjoyed some of her songs. But, I'm not much of a music snob, if i like the song (you know, fun to sing, makes my ears happy) I don't usually have to be all deep about it, necessarily. And, from what you say (and what i've heard) she really isn't a great writer. But again, I'm not too much of a lyrics person, necessarily. :shrug: I sing millions of stevie and other people's songs knowing not all the lyrics. I'm not the best person to discuss this with - I get more snobby about the tune, the bandwork, if there is a lot of harmonies and variance, and most of all - the vocal :shrug: :sorry: :D

Me, too, the piss off part. Yeah, i know you weren't staying up late to bitch :laugh: It just struck me in your post that you were a little hard on yourself for listening to her in the past :D I mean, she's kinda good - good voice. :xoxo: by the way, i liked "that don't impress me much" or whatever that song is called. Also...another one i can't think of now... :sorry: