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Hawkeye 12-06-2004 12:46 AM

The Bible Codes
 
I just watched a special on The History Channel about The Bible Codes. And all I can say is WOW. What do you all think about these. It's kind of erie how accurate it is. And according to the codes the world will end sometime around 2010. So that's the deadline for Fleetwood Mac tog et another album and tour to come out.

greatdarkwing 12-06-2004 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I just watched a special on The History Channel about The Bible Codes. And all I can say is WOW. What do you all think about these. It's kind of erie how accurate it is. And according to the codes the world will end sometime around 2010. So that's the deadline for Fleetwood Mac tog et another album and tour to come out.

I think its fair to say thats the deadline for Lindsey's next solo album :laugh:

~Alex

Hawkeye 12-06-2004 12:54 AM

actually 2012 will be when the world ends according to the codes so there's time for a Fleetwood Mac album AND solo albums.

amber 12-06-2004 01:00 AM

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actually 2012 will be when the world ends according to the codes so there's time for a Fleetwood Mac album AND solo albums.

The Mayans, or Aztecs, predicted Dec.23rd, 2012. I love shows like that!!! I wish they were on reg. TV all the time... :distress: :p

wondergirl9847 12-06-2004 01:02 AM

Dang!
 
Sorry I missed that show. That type of thing interests me to no end. 2010, huh? 6 more years to live...what am I gonna do?

Need to meet Lindsey and Keith, tell them I love their music.

Need to go to Paris, Canada, Hawaii, and Italy, along with tons of other places.

Need to write and publish a book.

Need to fall in love.

Yep, lots to do....gotta get started on this list. ;)

Hawkeye 12-06-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by amber
The Mayans, or Aztecs, predicted Dec.23rd, 2012. I love shows like that!!! I wish they were on reg. TV all the time... :distress: :p

I really do love shows like that. Hearing about natural disasters and the end of the world make it easier for me to sleep, because I look at my little problems I have and say eh, it's not so bad :laugh:

amber 12-06-2004 01:06 AM

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I really do love shows like that. Hearing about natural disasters and the end of the world make it easier for me to sleep, because I look at my little problems I have and say eh, it's not so bad :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh:
I just trip out on how a lot of cultures around the world think the same things, and have theories, and whatnot. Have you seen shows on how every culture has a flood story? :nod:

GypsySorcerer 12-06-2004 08:01 AM

Didn't see that one.......But I did watch most of the Rameses special on the Discovery channel. Very interesting.

markolas 12-06-2004 09:33 AM

Bah...

It's a load of horse sh*t. Bible prophecy is a lot like newspaper horoscopes. It's so vague, that it could mean just about anything. Anybody can make up "codes" from any book and use them to predict anything.

And the reason all cultures have flood myths is because early civilizations all developed around rivers, which flooded. A lot. It doesn't mean there was a worldwide flood.

DrummerDeanna 12-06-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I really do love shows like that. Hearing about natural disasters and the end of the world make it easier for me to sleep, because I look at my little problems I have and say eh, it's not so bad :laugh:

I used to watch shows like that when I was younger - and the freaked me out so much - still do - I just don't have cable anymore....wish I did so I could have caught that show - sounds really interesting....but I maintain that if I were to get cable I would NEVER leave my house....

Moony 12-06-2004 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas
Bah...

It's a load of horse sh*t. Bible prophecy is a lot like newspaper horoscopes. It's so vague, that it could mean just about anything. Anybody can make up "codes" from any book and use them to predict anything.

And the reason all cultures have flood myths is because early civilizations all developed around rivers, which flooded. A lot. It doesn't mean there was a worldwide flood.

:thumbsup:
Couldn't agree with you more

amber 12-06-2004 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas
Bah...

It's a load of horse sh*t. Bible prophecy is a lot like newspaper horoscopes. It's so vague, that it could mean just about anything. Anybody can make up "codes" from any book and use them to predict anything.

And the reason all cultures have flood myths is because early civilizations all developed around rivers, which flooded. A lot. It doesn't mean there was a worldwide flood.

okay, but from everything i've read, and seen things about, i think there was a worldwide flood. You know, scientific evidence and all that? :wavey:

amber 12-06-2004 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Moony
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Couldn't agree with you more

Oh, my own sweet f**. You gotta study up on your scientific and cultural history!!! :xoxo: You don't have to believe in the bible to think there was a worldwide flood. You just gotta look at the archeaology, et al. :wavey: ;)

Moony 12-06-2004 12:21 PM

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Oh, my own sweet f**. You gotta study up on your scientific and cultural history!!! :xoxo: You don't have to believe in the bible to think there was a worldwide flood. You just gotta look at the archeaology, et al. :wavey: ;)

:laugh:
I should have been more clear - I agreed with his take on Bible prophecies. As for the world wide flood thingybob, I really have no opinion on it and don't care... :wavey: :angel:

amber 12-06-2004 12:25 PM

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I should have been more clear - I agreed with his take on Bible prophecies. As for the world wide flood thingybob, I really have no opinion on it and don't care... :wavey: :angel:

Don't care? but...it happened so long ago, how could you not care??? :confused: :laugh: ;) :xoxo:

DrummerDeanna 12-06-2004 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
Oh, my own sweet f**. You gotta study up on your scientific and cultural history!!! :xoxo: You don't have to believe in the bible to think there was a worldwide flood. You just gotta look at the archeaology, et al. :wavey: ;)

Worldwide floods aside - I think those shows are just really interesting and fun - I used to watch all those Nostradomus (sp?) specials they'd have (inevitably around the change of the year) and they scared the crap outta me - but I didn't take them seriously - I just like that they can freak me out a little and are entertaining - though I'm usually aware of how ridiculous these things usually are...it's like horror flicks - they freak me out but i Know they're not real :)

amber 12-06-2004 12:32 PM

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I don't believe there was a world wide flood either. But hey, I believe in evolution so....

I believe in evolution, too. They're not mutually exclusive. Almost every culture has a flood myth, and there is also scientific/anthropological/geographic evidence. But, obviously y'all haven't seen as much of it as i have. So it's irritating to argue about it. :p IT'S CALLED SCIENCE, PEOPLE!!! :laugh: :nod:

amber 12-06-2004 12:33 PM

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Worldwide floods aside - I think those shows are just really interesting and fun - I used to watch all those Nostradomus (sp?) specials they'd have (inevitably around the change of the year) and they scared the crap outta me - but I didn't take them seriously - I just like that they can freak me out a little and are entertaining - though I'm usually aware of how ridiculous these things usually are...it's like horror flicks - they freak me out but i Know they're not real :)

Yes, i love those too, but i was talking about real science books and real science shows! :p dagnabbit!!! :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17 12-06-2004 12:42 PM

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:p IT'S CALLED SCIENCE, PEOPLE!!! :laugh: :nod:

Then describe how we all came to be if everyone else was killed and left only with Noah, his wife, and his kids......


I know in the Bible it says that his three sons peopled the whole Earth. I guess that is more from faith, cuz science sure can't explain that one. :lol:

DrummerDeanna 12-06-2004 12:45 PM

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Yes, i love those too, but i was talking about real science books and real science shows! :p dagnabbit!!! :laugh:


No - I know that - and I didn't even see the Bible Codes special - or any thing on cable recently...lol - I was just sayin' I enjoy creepy shows....

Also - I know what you're saying about the flood - I don't know all that much about the Earth's history sadly...but yeah...rock on.

amber 12-06-2004 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
Then describe how we all came to be if everyone else was killed and left only with Noah, his wife, and his kids......


I know in the Bible it says that his three sons peopled the whole Earth. I guess that is more from faith, cuz science sure can't explain that one. :lol:

I didn't say i believed the bible version! That's totally different! Well, not totally different, but that's just one story..If anyone ever wants to read Fingerprints of the Gods, by Graham Hancock, that's an interesting start. And, no, it's not about the bible at all.

wondergirl9847 12-06-2004 01:13 PM

Well...
 
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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
Then describe how we all came to be if everyone else was killed and left only with Noah, his wife, and his kids......


I know in the Bible it says that his three sons peopled the whole Earth. I guess that is more from faith, cuz science sure can't explain that one. :lol:

How did the entire world come to be with just Adam and Eve? We assume (well, *I* assume) that they had lots more children than we know about and obviously they had to have had *ahem* relations with each other. LOL Unless God provided them with spouses, which I doubt.

When the world ends...God said we will know the mysteries of the universe. :)

DrummerDeanna 12-06-2004 01:28 PM

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When the world ends...God said we will know the mysteries of the universe. :)

Well that'd be cool :nod: I wouldn't mind knowing the mysteries of the universe :D

Vianna 12-06-2004 01:41 PM

"I just trip out on how a lot of cultures around the world think the same things, and have theories, and whatnot. Have you seen shows on how every culture has a flood story?"

I do, too. The flood story though was passed along orally and probably other cultures copied it.

amber 12-06-2004 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vianna
"I just trip out on how a lot of cultures around the world think the same things, and have theories, and whatnot. Have you seen shows on how every culture has a flood story?"

I do, too. The flood story though was passed along orally and probably other cultures copied it.

I don't think so. Cultures that had minimal if any contact with others have the story. There is scientific geographical evidence. but, hey :shrug: whatever... :D

paleshadow 12-06-2004 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
okay, but from everything i've read, and seen things about, i think there was a worldwide flood. You know, scientific evidence and all that? :wavey:

Is there scientific evidence of a world wide flood? From a scientific standpoint, if there was a catastrophic flood thousands of years ago which wiped out nearly all life on Earth, there would be a large fossil bed that contained all the species that existed on Earth at the time, rather than several layers of fossil beds which contained different species.

As far as many cultures having a flood myth, it's typical of newer cultures, or neighboring cultures to borrow creation, and other stories and adapt or incorporate them into their own customs.

amber 12-06-2004 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by paleshadow
Is there scientific evidence of a world wide flood? From a scientific standpoint, if there was a catastrophic flood thousands of years ago which wiped out nearly all life on Earth, there would be a large fossil bed that contained all the species that existed on Earth at the time, rather than several layers of fossil beds which contained different species.

As far as many cultures having a flood myth, it's typical of newer cultures, or neighboring cultures to borrow creation, and other stories and adapt or incorporate them into their own customs.

okay. :wavey: I know other things. :) But rock on...

strandinthewind 12-06-2004 03:41 PM

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Is there scientific evidence of a world wide flood? From a scientific standpoint, if there was a catastrophic flood thousands of years ago which wiped out nearly all life on Earth, there would be a large fossil bed that contained all the species that existed on Earth at the time, rather than several layers of fossil beds which contained different species.

As far as many cultures having a flood myth, it's typical of newer cultures, or neighboring cultures to borrow creation, and other stories and adapt or incorporate them into their own customs.

Well, there is and there is not :shrug: There is evidence of a HUGE event happening thousands of years ago (actually evidence exists to support a few such events over the last several million years) - Many think the event was an asteroid hitting the Earth and causing the Earth to shift a few degrees on her axis - thus causing the formerly floral Sarah Desert to form. Here are some sites - take them for what you will and there are more if you google, etc.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4168.asp

http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html

http://www.thinkquest.org/library/si...78/noahand.htm

http://www.icr.org/creationproducts/...th2FFlood.html

Again, there are MANY theories on this :cool:

amber 12-06-2004 03:47 PM

Have you seen the stuff about the newer theory of how old the sphinx really is? It has massive water erosion consistent only with tropical, wet weather, which, of course, Egypt did not have post about 10,000 years ago :eek: (I think it's 10,000, i forgot exactly). Anyway, it's been on all the science shows that talk about that stuff, and of course in Graham Hancocks book. Anywhoo.... :wavey:

paleshadow 12-06-2004 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
Have you seen the stuff about the newer theory of how old the sphinx really is? It has massive water erosion consistent only with tropical, wet weather, which, of course, Egypt did not have post about 10,000 years ago :eek: (I think it's 10,000, i forgot exactly). Anyway, it's been on all the science shows that talk about that stuff, and of course in Graham Hancocks book. Anywhoo.... :wavey:

Many respectable scientists have refuted the theory of the sphinx and done demonstrations showing that the erosion patterns can and most likely were caused by sand. I've seen some of the shows you are talking about also, and some of them also suggest that the Egyptians did not have the technology to create the pyramids and other monuments, therefore Aliens must have been responsible. Often these "science" programs cast well know, respected celebrities as hosts to help lend crediblility to their claims. I don't remember which one, but it may have been the sphynx one, featured Charleton Heston (Moses)! Unfortunately many people see these celebs and conciously or subconsiously think "It's Moses, so it must be true" I think people need to understand the difference between Pseudoscience and Science.
I recommend the book "Pseudoscience, Superstition, and other Confusions of Our Time" by Stephen Jay Gould. It's an interesting read no matter what your stand point on the issue is.

paleshadow 12-06-2004 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
okay. :wavey: I know other things. :) But rock on...

You can even find people who "know" the holocaust was a big conspiracy. I guess it's less of what we know and more of what we chose to believe. ;)

paleshadow 12-06-2004 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, there is and there is not :shrug: There is evidence of a HUGE event happening thousands of years ago (actually evidence exists to support a few such events over the last several million years) - Many think the event was an asteroid hitting the Earth and causing the Earth to shift a few degrees on her axis - thus causing the formerly floral Sarah Desert to form. Here are some sites - take them for what you will and there are more if you google, etc.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4168.asp

http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html

http://www.thinkquest.org/library/si...78/noahand.htm

http://www.icr.org/creationproducts/...th2FFlood.html

Again, there are MANY theories on this :cool:

Sure, the astoroid theory isn't really debated, the point is that it pre-dated "human" life forms on the planet. The flood myth is post humans populating the planet. The only other thing that can possibly make the flood myth credible is if you consider thousands of years ago, an individual culture would most likely belive that they made up the entire race of mankind. Even a reasonably small flood that killed an entire villiage may have been thought of as catastrophic, and preserved by any survivors and embelleshed orally for centuries to come until it was finally written down. A flood that destroyed a small villiage becomes "The Great Flood" that destroyed the entire human race. :nod:

strandinthewind 12-06-2004 04:39 PM

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Sure, the astoroid theory isn't really debated, the point is that it pre-dated "human" life forms on the planet. The flood myth is post humans populating the planet. The only other thing that can possibly make the flood myth credible is if you consider thousands of years ago, an individual culture would most likely belive that they made up the entire race of mankind. Even a reasonably small flood that killed an entire villiage may have been thought of as catastrophic, and preserved by any survivors and embelleshed orally for centuries to come until it was finally written down. A flood that destroyed a small villiage becomes "The Great Flood" that destroyed the entire human race. :nod:

Yes, I mean look at some of the vocanic eruptions and/or erthquakes - a la Pompeii. That is why I tend to look at the spirit of The Bible's story - which is great IMO. Also, some argue another smaller asteroid hit the Earth during the age of man (oooo how Tolkeiin of me :laugh: )

paleshadow 12-06-2004 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Yes, I mean look at some of the vocanic eruptions and/or erthquakes - a la Pompeii. That is why I tend to look at the spirit of The Bible's story - which is great IMO. Also, some argue another smaller asteroid hit the Earth during the age of man (oooo how Tolkeiin of me :laugh: )

I agree about enjoying stories in the bible. To me it's just like Greek mythology, stories that were made to explain what, at that time, was unexplainable. I would LOVE to go to Pompeii! My father was there a few years ago and brought me back a piece of a wall he broke off! I have it on my bookshelf, and I get the chills thinking about how old it is, and all of the history. It's probably a bit of 10 year old concrete from Italy's version of Home Depot though! :o

estranged4life 12-06-2004 04:54 PM

Cool...
 
only 6 more years til I take over & end this party, Since I am nicknamed the Anti-Christ!!! :thumbsup:

Brian "666 and 3/4ths" j.

strandinthewind 12-06-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by paleshadow
I agree about enjoying stories in the bible. To me it's just like Greek mythology, stories that were made to explain what, at that time, was unexplainable. I would LOVE to go to Pompeii! My father was there a few years ago and brought me back a piece of a wall he broke off! I have it on my bookshelf, and I get the chills thinking about how old it is, and all of the history. It's probably a bit of 10 year old concrete from Italy's version of Home Depot though! :o

I was there at the end of this last Aug. It is SPECTACULAR. The fescos are still on the walls. It is amazing. I highly suggest doing the climb Mt. Vesuvious (sp.?) and then Pompeii your. I did and am HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY for it :cool:

amber 12-06-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by paleshadow
You can even find people who "know" the holocaust was a big conspiracy. I guess it's less of what we know and more of what we chose to believe. ;)

Guess so. I like to believe science things. :)

paleshadow 12-06-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I was there at the end of this last Aug. It is SPECTACULAR. The fescos are still on the walls. It is amazing. I highly suggest doing the climb Mt. Vesuvious (sp.?) and then Pompeii your. I did and am HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY for it :cool:

My dad showed me photos in a book of the frescos! Can you say "PORNO"! It wasn't really the kind of thing I wanted to look at with my pops!! I have to say though, God bless them if those frescos were anatomically correct!! :laugh:

strandinthewind 12-06-2004 05:07 PM

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My dad showed me photos in a book of the frescos! Can you say "PORNO"! It wasn't really the kind of thing I wanted to look at with my pops!! I have to say though, God bless them if those frescos were anatomically correct!! :laugh:

Well, they were fascinated by the size of a phallus - there actually many stories about this, etc. The pic.s in the bathhouse and the whorehouse were the best LOL :eek:

paleshadow 12-06-2004 05:07 PM

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Guess so. I like to believe science things. :)


Amber, check out that book I mentioned a few posts ago. I think you'll enjoy it either way. I have come across very few programs on TV that are truely Scientific. Nothing that has a sponsor can be completely impartial. Shows like "In Search Of" defiantley fall into the "Pseudoscience" catagory.


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