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tynan88 10-16-2004 06:06 AM

Angel in next Setlist
 
Angel should replace Dreams in the next tour setlist I think, what other changes should be made. i think the next set list has to be very, very fun and full of moments where you can up and dance, I think she could still pull of Angel even with the same enthusiasm, it would be awesome (I have been watching the Tusk Doco footage, it is soo awesome, it is the first time I saw it :blob2: )

Tynan

ontheEdgeof17 10-16-2004 10:23 AM

Rumor has it they practiced Angel this summer for the last of the shows in September. I don't think it will ever come back. I think it would have fit perfectly after ISA, since they dropped SS...... :shrug:


-Curt

Lala 10-16-2004 01:10 PM

Yeah I'd go for it but I don't think Dreams will ever come out of the setlist considering it's their only #1 and Stevie seems to like even though if I was her I would get so bored singing that song every friggin night of ever friggin tour!

bikerchic 10-16-2004 01:12 PM

ANGEL, ANGEL, ANGEL!!!! :nod: :blob1: :]

bikerchic 10-16-2004 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tynan88
(I have been watching the Tusk Doco footage, it is soo awesome, it is the first time I saw it :blob2: )

Tynan

I'm still waiting for my Tusk copy......hint, hint...LOL :nod:

amber 10-16-2004 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tynan88
Angel should replace Dreams in the next tour setlist I think, what other changes should be made. i think the next set list has to be very, very fun and full of moments where you can up and dance, I think she could still pull of Angel even with the same enthusiasm, it would be awesome (I have been watching the Tusk Doco footage, it is soo awesome, it is the first time I saw it :blob2: )

Tynan

Isn't it. It's like my fave thing ever. I think she should do it, too...it's all fun and kicky. Wait, i just had a horrible thought...what if slowed it down or something when she did it? AAAAHHHHH! :laugh:

rezamatic 10-16-2004 05:48 PM

I thought that "Angel' would be the perfect replacement for "Gypsy", but then they went for "Sara" instead. Wouldn't it go perfectly right after "Come"? Lindsey's all toweling off (no pun intended) and after a few moments the crowd's settling down and then the keyboard just kicks in and we get a cool mellow but upbeat song before the slower/emotional part of the set (Landslide, etc.) kicks in.

I still want "Miranda" in the set and early on instead of "Peacekeeper". Let's face it, the general crowd almost groans when they say 'So we have a new album, and we'd like to play a new song" and then Peacekeeper just ends up boring most of the time live. I think that if they said 'so we have a new album out, here's one off of it' and went with Miranda - it'd really get the fans going. It's one of Lindsey's catchiest ever and they could go on for a bit at the end with that fun jam. THEN do Peacekeeper or Say You Will once you've got the flow going, you know?

And finally, now that you've got the door open :-D ... put Never Going Back Again in the middle of the set, where they have Mick's drums up front. Do it in a similar fashion to "Say You Love Me" w/the Dance. Line them up and have a fun spunky song before they go into Beatiful Child or Red Rover.

I used to agree with "Dreams" going out - but to be honest, when I finally heard it live it has a lot more kick to it, and it's a good 'look we're playing our hits already in the set' feel to it, since it comes in second. So I'm not that opposed to it where it is now (took a while though :-) )

AND FINALLY (for real) I'd move IKINW towards the end. Right around the Gold Dust Woman/I'm So Afraid part of the show. I always felt that song was good for later on in the set (specifically after a really big song - I'd like to see it follow Stand Back maybe).

And that does it for me. I love the art of a good setlist!

David 10-16-2004 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
It's like my fave thing ever. I think she should do it, too...it's all fun and kicky. Wait, i just had a horrible thought...what if slowed it down or something when she did it? AAAAHHHHH! :laugh:

Don't laugh. Your scenario is highly plausible.

Everybody thinks that doing "Angel" again would be to bring back that old spirit it had when it was new. But the pessimist in me thinks the conglomeration of unnecessary people on the Fleetwood Mac stage today would take a gutsy dodge like "Angel" & turn it into a galumphing dirge.

When I heard a tape of "I Know I'm Not Wrong" from one of the shows this year, I yelled SHUTUP at Brett, Taku, Sharon, Mindy, Jana, Carlos, Neale, Joe Drummer #2, et al. Too many goddamn people showing off their chops instead of letting the song speak for itself.

tynan88 10-16-2004 08:54 PM

I was actually intially going to suggest it replace Don't Stop in the set, but then I realised that Stevie really has a good crack at this classic, and it is a good version, I just ain't a fan of the song.

I think the last "Track a ghost through the Fog" is just such a great climax.

Tynan

amber 10-16-2004 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Don't laugh. Your scenario is highly plausible.

Everybody thinks that doing "Angel" again would be to bring back that old spirit it had when it was new. But the pessimist in me thinks the conglomeration of unnecessary people on the Fleetwood Mac stage today would take a gutsy dodge like "Angel" & turn it into a galumphing dirge.

When I heard a tape of "I Know I'm Not Wrong" from one of the shows this year, I yelled SHUTUP at Brett, Taku, Sharon, Mindy, Jana, Carlos, Neale, Joe Drummer #2, et al. Too many goddamn people showing off their chops instead of letting the song speak for itself.

Whoah! and i thought i was just joking, but now i see it really is possible. You thought IKINW was icky?

Hawkeye 10-16-2004 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
Rumor has it they practiced Angel this summer for the last of the shows in September. I don't think it will ever come back. I think it would have fit perfectly after ISA, since they dropped SS...... :shrug:


-Curt

Where'd you hear that Rumour?

bikerchic 10-16-2004 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tynan88
I think the last "Track a ghost through the Fog" is just such a great climax.

Tynan

:nod: Angel would kick some serious butt live! I think Stevie could still do it!

amber 10-16-2004 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerchic
:nod: Angel would kick some serious butt live! I think Stevie could still do it!

Me too! Dammit, Stevie, Bitch!, just do it! :laugh: :laugh: (just kidding about the b-word)

Mageboy25 10-17-2004 04:54 AM

Even though Angel would make me cream, at least we got Sara :).

I mean I about fell out of my chair last May, got goose bumps everywhere and got very teary eyed when I read that it was back in the set.

Hell FROOZE Over!

You never know, as I asked Stevie in 2001:"Stevie will you ever do Sisters Of The Moon again?", her response was 5 words to me "Oh I dont know maybe" :D :D

Lala 10-17-2004 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rezamatic
I still want "Miranda" in the set and early on instead of "Peacekeeper". Let's face it, the general crowd almost groans when they say 'So we have a new album, and we'd like to play a new song" and then Peacekeeper just ends up boring most of the time live. I think that if they said 'so we have a new album out, here's one off of it' and went with Miranda - it'd really get the fans going. It's one of Lindsey's catchiest ever and they could go on for a bit at the end with that fun jam. THEN do Peacekeeper or Say You Will once you've got the flow going, you know?

Um...from my experience the non-hard core fans get turned off at the mere mention of a new album because they've all come to hear Rumours. Maybe if Lindsey said "Um...this is a song from Rumours..." [crowds cheering] "...um...called Miranda?" [confused look on face]

dissention 10-17-2004 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by amber
You thought IKINW was icky?

I enjoyed it, but I also thought there were too many cooks in the kitchen. A rather simplistic song was turned into a theatrical extravaganza and it detracted from it.

David 10-17-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mageboy25
You never know, as I asked Stevie in 2001:"Stevie will you ever do Sisters Of The Moon again?", her response was 5 words to me "Oh I dont know maybe" :D :D

Maybe she misinterpreted the question!

mylittledemon 10-17-2004 03:27 PM

Here's my dream setlist for the "next" tour, if there is one...

The Chain
Dreams
Not that Funny
Say You Will
Eyes of the World
Never Going Back Again
Rhiannon
Come
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Thrown Down
I'm So Afraid
Sisters of the Moon
Bleed to Love Her
Silver Springs
Tusk
Angel
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Say Goodbye

mondaymornin1 10-17-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Don't laugh. Your scenario is highly plausible.

Everybody thinks that doing "Angel" again would be to bring back that old spirit it had when it was new. But the pessimist in me thinks the conglomeration of unnecessary people on the Fleetwood Mac stage today would take a gutsy dodge like "Angel" & turn it into a galumphing dirge.

When I heard a tape of "I Know I'm Not Wrong" from one of the shows this year, I yelled SHUTUP at Brett, Taku, Sharon, Mindy, Jana, Carlos, Neale, Joe Drummer #2, et al. Too many goddamn people showing off their chops instead of letting the song speak for itself.


I agree. I was so excited to hear that IKINW was added to the set list, but I was disappointed with all of the "fluff" that was included with it. I'm afraid the same thing would happen to Angel, too.

I wish they'd knock off "Dreams" too. I know they're tryin to please the folks who are there to hear the Rumours stuff, but that one is startin to get on my nerves! I'd love for Angel to replace it, but only if they do it right!

AliP 10-17-2004 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mondaymornin1
I agree. I was so excited to hear that IKINW was added to the set list, but I was disappointed with all of the "fluff" that was included with it.

Really? I'm surprised that so many people feel this way. I definitely thought it kicked and I loved the energy that it brought with everyone involved.


On a side note: I find it interesting how the same songs can change with different tours. There are different players, different backup singers, different arrangment etc. It can totally change the song from blah to yah! or vice versa. For instance...in my opinion, Save Me a Place totally blew on the Tusk tour, but when LB did it for OOTC it was totally awesome! I loved it :) However, one song that I think never changes, no matter what tour, and is always blah is 'Dreams.' They should do something different to spice it up a little.

GODDESS6 10-17-2004 06:51 PM

:angel: angel :angel: is a wonderful song, that i wish they would do again live or even stevie solo, loved it during the bella donna tour!!!~ also the video of it on the tusk documentary, i just freakin' love it, love all the dancing around she does & the interaction lindsey has w/ her, so yeah i say, bring back :angel: ANGEL :angel: , baby!!!~

brightest stevie blessings~
jill

EveryHour 10-17-2004 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Everybody thinks that doing "Angel" again would be to bring back that old spirit it had when it was new. But the pessimist in me thinks the conglomeration of unnecessary people on the Fleetwood Mac stage today would take a gutsy dodge like "Angel" & turn it into a galumphing dirge.

Ah...but if we're stuck with that no matter what, we might as well hear some different songs, no?

AliceLover 10-17-2004 08:39 PM

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I really thought IKINW was bad. I liked Eyes of the World much better. IKINW just kept going on and on and on. There was no pizazz to it, but still it was nice ot hear another song from tusk live.

Dreams yes is not too great in concert but Stevie said it is her FAVORITE song because it never gets dropped from the set.

If they did Miranda I would be ao friggin happy because that song rocks!

In mansfield the crowd was more into the new songs than the older ones. I am not kidding about this either.

Jimmy

rezamatic 10-17-2004 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lala
Um...from my experience the non-hard core fans get turned off at the mere mention of a new album because they've all come to hear Rumours. Maybe if Lindsey said "Um...this is a song from Rumours..." [crowds cheering] "...um...called Miranda?" [confused look on face]

Haha this is very true. I bet half of them wouldn't know the difference if he introduced it that way :laugh: But I do think that if they did Miranda (or even Destiny Rules or Everybody Finds Out) rather than Peacekeeper as the first new song, the crowd would warm up to the 'new song' slump a lot better. It's a double whammy when they mention new album and then go through PK, which just lags. I doubt we'll ever hear it live again.


As for the 'fluff' issue with IKINW - I think they only did that because it's so early in the set list. I think Lindsey didn't necessarily want to give up/trade Eyes of the World, and so he realized he needed to amp up IKINW as a really energetic third song if he was going to replace it. If it were later in the set, I bet it'd be toned down but right now it's the 'keep people on their feet' song. That's why I'd prefer it much later on in the show.

amber 10-17-2004 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rezamatic
Haha this is very true. I bet half of them wouldn't know the difference if he introduced it that way :laugh: But I do think that if they did Miranda (or even Destiny Rules or Everybody Finds Out) rather than Peacekeeper as the first new song, the crowd would warm up to the 'new song' slump a lot better. It's a double whammy when they mention new album and then go through PK, which just lags. I doubt we'll ever hear it live again.


As for the 'fluff' issue with IKINW - I think they only did that because it's so early in the set list. I think Lindsey didn't necessarily want to give up/trade Eyes of the World, and so he realized he needed to amp up IKINW as a really energetic third song if he was going to replace it. If it were later in the set, I bet it'd be toned down but right now it's the 'keep people on their feet' song. That's why I'd prefer it much later on in the show.

i think they'd be really stoked to hear Miranda - I know i would be, i love that song. good thoughts on IKINW...I liked it, though...didn't mind the amped up version...


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