Vice-Presidential Debate
 

What do you all think will happen tonight? It should be interesting.

I really can't say - I've never actually watched a vice-presidential debate...but tonight's I have to work - so I'll be listening to it for sure....

I'm really looking forward to it....Cheney frightens me - but Edwards...he's reminds of an insurance/used car salesman...I think it's his smile....

I'm watching--armed with a notepad like I used in the Pres. debate--so I can copy down my talking points I want to use when I e-mail the media and let them know how I felt about the debates.

I think Edwards is going to do far better than the media is giving him credit for. Remember-Cheney has huge, huge negatives in the polls. The people want someone they can like and Edwards is that person.

And he was a trial attorney known for his ability to sway juries. One lawyer who had to argue against him said that he's deceptively smart and very, very charming and that you were roadkill before you ever knew what hit you. That's the Edwards I'm looking to see in tonight's debate.

I think Cheney will absolutly lose his temper. Edwards is a very smooth trial lawyer who is known for going for the jugular while smiling. Cheney, on the other hand, is rumored to have a famously bad temper, especially when confronted. Edwards will most definitely confront him about:

Halliburton

no bid contract
severance pay

Iraq

Cheney said they "knew" where the WMD were, etc.

Oil

the private meetings

Those are just three HUGe ones. I think Cheney will come off as the cold, smug elitist he is and Edwards will come off as warm, which I think he is.

But, only time will tell!!!!!!

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Hmmm...
 

Edwards is going to smoke him in the debate.

Maybe Cheney will have another heart attack?

One can dream. :woohoo:

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oh my god, strand. I've been wondering who the hell those two people were in your avatar - just dawned on me. For a while, I thought one of them was you. LMAO :lol:

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I was just thinking the same thing. Edwards should come out for the handshake, and instead of shaking hands he should raise his arms and make a monster face and scream, "BOO!!!".

*THUD* Debate over. Edwards wins.

I think they will both do ok, but I think Edwards will "win." He is very persuasive...he is more liked than Cheney..Kerry and Edwards are floating on high momentum from the last debate, that closed Bush's winning gap in the poll, and even put Kerry ahead of Bush in a couple of polls...

Chris

Cheney's going to blow his stack, and Edwards is going to come off as even more likeable than he already does.

It'll be AWESOME! (in my Justin Timberlake doing Ashton Kutcher voice)

Edwards and his postive, uplifting style will magnify Cheney's distant personality. People can't get into that. And they should pay close attention because THIS IS OUR REAL PRESIDENT.
They will be sitting down this evening, which is a bit odd. I'll say "the sneer" makes an appearance in the first ten minutes. After that, it's a free for all. Woohoo. This is must see tv. :woohoo:

You guys really think Cheney will blow his stack? Hmmm, that will be interesting to see. I heard that they negotiated that the candidates will be seated. This is supposed to be a disadvantage for Edwards because he likes to roam, a la Clinton.

While I would not wish a heart attack on anyone, it is possible given the mostly substantiated rumors I hear about Cheney's temper. But, Cheney is a prof. politician - so maybe he will not blow his stack. In the end it will not matter because the very likeable son of a mill worker will be seen as going against the smug and elitist Cheney.

Again, we will know in about six hours how it came down :laugh:

I remember enjoying Lieberman/Cheney much more than the Gore/Bush debates. Of course, Edwards will seem more likeable, polished, etc. But Cheney is more capable of debate than Bush, so it should be good. I wonder how many times we'll hear Halliburton and frivilous lawsuits. :laugh:

Here are links to some of the major sites that will have post-debate polls:

* CNN: http://www.cnn.com/
* MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
* Wall Street Journal: http://www.wsj.com/
* LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/
* Akron Beacon-Journal: http://www.ohio.com/
* Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune: http://www.startribune.com/
* Orlando Sentinel: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
* Philadelphia Inquirer: http://www.philly.com/
* South Florida Sun-Sentinel: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/

If any of you are inclined to write letters, you can type your zip code in here to bring up a list of local publications.

Cheney is lying his ass off.

I can't watch it - it would piss me off too much, plus, Laine needed a walk :cool:

This is hilarious! I wouldn't want to meet Cheney in a dark alley..... But that Howie Dean comment was priceless. :laugh:

Oh, I'm furious. JE just brought up Haliburton. Dick said "Uh" and then commented on the Johns voting record. Dirty, dirty scumbag. Or in the words of Elton John "Dirty, vile pigs!" :laugh:

That was sleazy of him.

No, it was true. ;)

Hey. Give him that. We've only sustained 50% of the casualties right?

This is definitely more entertaining than the pres. debate last week :eek:

Voted against Head Start and freeing Nelson Mandela? Ouch. You got served there, Dick.

Touche. I'm flipping around though; they've already lost my interest.

This moderator is horrid.

Good for you. Cheney has laid a great big steaming turd of lies on the stage. It ain't pretty. :lol:

JE did a good job talking about how Bush flipped-flopped as well. :thumbsup:

Some barbed comments, but they both seem very cool and calm. Dullsville.

Edwards came off as a jerk and I didn't know what to think of Chaney when he refused to talk about Same Sex relationships and just thanked Edwards for his "Kind words" about his daughter. That whole thing seemed odd. Was Edwards trying to push Chaney's buttons by going on and on about the fact that Chaney's daughter is gay?

And while we are on the topic Edwards says that marriage is between a man and a woman but same sex relationships should have benefits like visitation rights in the hospital and money when a person dies. Okay, so what is the difference between those benefits and the benefits a married couple gets? Isn't a marriage just a relationship with a few legal benefits? So basically, they just don't want to call it a marriage they want to find a new name for unions between two men or two women? So, was that a way for him to please people on both sides of this topic? I didn't really understand what he beleived.

I dont think there was a huge CLEAR winner tonight, like there was last Tuesday...but I do think Edwards was more clear and consistent on the points..Cheney avoided many topics like Halliburton, and same sex marriages...

He even opted out of responding TWO times to Sen. Edwards when he was offered a 30 sec. response...he had nothing to say...He has more statistics and numbers than Bush, but this makes me even more excited for the big one this Friday..the town hall style debate..very exciting.. I'm sure Bush will step it up due to his poor performance in the last one--I'm sure Kerry knows that and is preparing well too

Chris

What I got from it, based on Edwards' comments tonight and previously is they PERSONALLY both believe, based on their own morals--whatever, that marriage should be between a man and a woman...although they do not believe in it, they wont stand in the way of it. They wont sign constitutional ammendments banning gay marriage, like Bush has agreed to do...Edwards made that clear tonight---they might personally disagree with gay marriage, but are for giving gays rights, the same rights as married couples..

Although I do not believe, throughout this entire campaign that Kerry/Edwards have been exactly FOR same sex marriage legalization---they have always stayed on the stance of UNIONS, instead-- It was interesting Cheney said they think it should be a States issue, and that is precisely the stance Kerry/Edwards have taken throughout the campaign--and Bush has been opposed to that...all of a sudden tonight they are for it?

Chris

I think it was a draw, too. I believe Cheney didn't answer the question about same sex marriage because he approves of it. I think he disagrees with Bush's policy, and therefore, kept his mouth shut.

But there is the rub - he has no class and no spine.

I wasn't saying it was right....I think he should grow balls and stand up for what he believes in. That was just my take on what happened.

This is a pretty consistent Republican stance...make things issues for the States unless the Feds disagree with them. Then, they swoop in and trump the state's decisions.
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:eek: :sorry: - I was commenting on Cheney responses - not on your post, even though I quoted it because it referred to them :sorry:

I just love how he called Halliburton's $7.5 billion along with a fraud investigation a non-issue and then essentially refused to discuss it anymore - he is slime.

Sorry. Maybe Cheney is rubbing off on me and I'm getting cranky. :lol:

Yep - that is why the state's rights argument is B.S. and anyone with a brain knows it. How can there be equal protection under the law when all Mass. married couples cannot have their marriages recognized as valid in the other 49 states. Better yet, let's let states ban any kind of marriages they want, black and white, etc. :mad: The whole thing is a vomitorium of hatred egged on by the bottom feeding Bible thumping with one hand and money collecting with the other religious far right. I sincerely pray for their souls because they are filling their churches and coffers by preaching hate and that hatred spills into violence. They honestly think gay people are the cause of the problems of the world and they only picked gay people because they can no longer pick on colored people. I think God is appalled.

Nah - I just did not want you to think I was pouncing on you :laugh: :laugh:

Watch it there....a girl could take that the wrong way. ;)

MEEEEEE - make a double entendre!!!!! :] :] :] :] :] :]