Kerry on Letterman and Regis and Kelly
 

Great appearances...he really does have a great sense of humor in there...

My fav. quote from Letterman was when discussing the debates and the arguments over them Kerry said "they decided George Bush will sit in Dick Cheney's lap"

He defended his votes on the war on Letterman quickly and precise , and said he doesn't regret the votes at all. He said he still stands by voting against the 87 billion funds, esp now that he's finding out most of those funds aren't even being put to use. He strongly hammered Bush on Iraq, but also talked about other stuff..

His appearance on Live with Regis & Kelly was more laid back, less talk of issues, more every day talk...

Great appearances IMO..

Chris

It was. But, I am GREATLY worried the Dan Rather INSANE screw up (WHAT THE FU&* was that IDIOT THINKING :mad: ) will tarnish Kerry and make W even more bulletproof that he sadly already is. AND - CBS knowingly and willfully leaked this info to the Kerry campaign, which makes Kerry look involved in this. This can do nothing but bode well for the Bush campaign because now all attacks on W's service in the NG will be suject to "what now - wasn't the last forgery enough" - sad - very true.

He also took over Letterman's Top 10 List of the night for him


three of them were :

"cheney can claim bush as a dependent"

"hundred $$ penalty if you pronounce nuclear--instead o nucular"

"george bush gets a deduction for mortgaging our into future"

I think after this both campaigns will probably just leave the Vietnam and Guard Service questions alone...as you saw when CBS aired the special John Kerry distanced himself from it, and refused to even answer questions pertaining to it..this election needs to be about real issues....there are MANY real issues at stake...and people go on and on about undecided voters and all that, and the truth is there isn't THAT MANY undecided voters..sure there are a lot...but there's not many democrats who will vote for Bush...so I think victory is fair game here (hopefully fair, who knows with this Admin.) and whoever wins will win by a very slim margin
I don't think this CBS thing will tarnish Kerry...I don't think anything is going to come out saying Kerry's campaign initiated this...even if he was told about it, it doesn't matter...

Chris

Well I agree to a point and think that all rational people should see it this way, but I fear they will not. People do not and cannot make such distinctions IMO. AND - that one of higher ups in CBS called Joe Lackhart to tell him that this story was breaking and that he needed to call their source for whatever reason (apparently to help further the Kerry campaign's strategy) and Lockhart called him, does smack of collusion in the fraud. I hope people can see the difference, but that is a large leap for a non-caring about details public to make :cool:

Also, that Gallop poll has me a little worried. It will be interesting to see if W can maintain any lead in the next two weeks. AND - W is a good debater in the eyes of the public. So, there is that. AAARRGGGHHHHHH - it is all so depressing to me.

He did good in the Gore/Bush debates...mainly because Gore agreed with him so many times..This year there are STRONG distinctions between the two candidates. People are more emotionally tied to this election, because of the war in Iraq, 9/11, gay marriage, etc..I think Bush's campaign might be a little worried about this debate..hence the reason they didn't want to do the Town Hall debate where undecided voters get to ask the questions--Bush isn't good when he's caught off guard...and now he's looking like he has something to hide, only wanting 1 or 2 debates....and Kerry has been saying for months, he would like to debate once a week , every week leading up till Nov. 2
I think the debates are when Kerry will really shine--hopefully people watch them with open eyes. Kerry has , as his campaign has progressed , found a way to be precise in what he says, articulate, and still keep it simple...

Chris

:nod:

I'm freaking out at this point. The campaign is in complete and utter disarray. Mary Beth Cahill really f*cked it all up beyond repair with the goody two shoes line of defense. They let the Swift Vets walk all over them, didn't respond forcefully enough, and it was all downhill from there. THEN - they took too long in restructuring the campaign. It doesn't help matters that they haven't wooed Carville away from CNN long enough to do much of anything (the guy is a genius and blows his own wife away). We need a miracle, at this point.

ITA - but I thought this in the D nominee stuff and Kerry finished strongly, which is what his strongsuit supposedly is. So, we shall see. I hope he wins, will vote for him, and encourage others to do the same. But, he needs to quit pussyfooting ( :laugh: :eek: ) around and get to it.

BTW - although I despise him - Rove is a genius.

Yeah, but this CBS stuff is the final nail in the coffin. Plus, the conservative media didn't latch onto the Kitty Kelley book, they didn't take Cheney to task over his "we'll be attacked if JK is president" remark, etc. We're dead. And I'm furious at myself for supporting John Kerry. I totally should have gone for Howard Dean and now I'm literally kicking myself.

See and although I gave Dean $$$$$$$, I think Edwards was the star of them all. But, we shall see what happens. Like Gore, if Kerry loses, he no one to thank but himself!!!!!!!

Well....
 

ya could do what the very few "liberals" Democrats (Not to be confused with those other Democrats in this state, Ya know the ones...) in Oklahoma have done, Which is support whoever is listed as an "Independent" on the ballot come this November.

As for me, I'm voting for the "Kenny McCormick/Elmer Fudd" ticket, Because 2 fictional characters are better suited running this country than the real live candidates who WONT shut the hell up about what happened with their military service before I was born (ie pre-1970)

Brian "The undertow will carry us all out to sea" j.

So you would rather have Bush than Kerry? wow

Chris

The Kerry camp is doing pretty good..it's hard to trust the polls ,because one poll might have Bush up 10 points, and another have it a dead tie..I for one think this election will be even closer than 2000

Chris

GOP Senator Admits He May Not Vote for Bush
By Staff and Wire Reports
Sep 21, 2004, 03:36
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U.S. Sen. Lincoln Chafee, a Republican moderate from Rhode Island, said publicly Monday what other GOP lawmakers have admitted privately: he might not vote for President Bush in the Nov. 2 election.
Chafee stressed, however, that he has no plans to bolt his party, and that if he does not back Bush he will write in the name of another Republican.

His spokesman Stephen Hourahan said afterward that if Chafee does write in a name it would be that of Bush's father, former President Bush.

"I'll look at my options," Chafee said in a brief interview on Capitol Hill after discussing his indecision about the current president earlier in the day with reporters in his home state.

Asked if he might not vote for the president, Chafee said: "That's accurate." His office said this has been his position for months, though it has gotten little, if any, attention in Washington.

"There is no secret that on some very important issues I have difference with the current administration," Chafee said, listing abortion rights, the environment and war in Iraq.

"Like all Americans we are looking for some answers to key questions in the weeks ahead," Chafee said. "You wait until November 2 and make your choices."

Republican leaders in both the House and Senate have worked behind the scenes in recent weeks to quell rising unrest within their party. A number of GOP House and Senate members have said privately they don't support President Bush's actions and wish they had another choice in the November elections.

On the other side of the aisle in the Senate, Democratic Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia has long backed Bush over his own party's nominee, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts.

Chafee's comments on Monday drew mixed reaction from fellow senators.

"It's unfortunate," said Sen. Kit Bond, a Missouri Republican.

"He is a gutsy and principled guy," said Sen. Thomas Carper, a Delaware Democrat. "He marches to his own drummer."

"He is a good fiscal conservative," Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said with a chuckle.

"What I like about him is that he can be a Republican senator and at the same time say he is unsure about a Republican president," Graham said. "He is a breath of fresh air in politics."

Three of the latest polls - Pew, Harris, and Investors Business daily - have the race at dead even or up one or down one. This is only 2 weeks after the RNC...not bad.. And they say on average incumbents usually leave their convention with about a 20 pt lead...not the 5-10 Bush got. Incumbent Jimmy Carter was up on average 8 pts all the way into October, and Reagan won.

So here is the top 10 list from Letterman, read by John Kerry - quite funny :

10. No estate tax for families with at least two U.S. presidents.

9. W-2 Form is now Dubya-2 Form.

8. Under the simplified tax code, your refund check goes directly to Halliburton.

7. The reduced earned income tax credit is so unfair, it just makes me want to tear out my lustrous, finely groomed hair.

6. Attorney General (John) Ashcroft gets to write off the entire U.S. Constitution.

5. Texas Rangers can take a business loss for trading Sammy Sosa.

4. Eliminate all income taxes; just ask Teresa to cover the whole damn thing.

3. Cheney can claim Bush as a dependent.

2. Hundred-dollar penalty if you pronounce it "nuclear" instead of "nucular."

1. George W. Bush gets a deduction for mortgaging our entire future

Neither...
 

because no matter who is the leader of this country nothing ever changes to benefit EVERYONE, It will benefit those in the "winning party".

My family sees the same thing that I do, Doesnt matter who's in office, Nothing will change..."Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss".

Hell, My 60 yr old DEMOCRAT Mother hates Bush and thinks Kerry is not trustworthy...I have to agree, She will not vote for either.

This will be the 5th time I have been able to vote for the president, And as I have done the past 3 times I will vote AGAINST both the Repubs/Demos.

Brian "Need I say more???" j.

No you need say no more Brian, but if you think our current state is the same now as it was under Clinton---just go ahead and think that..lol


Chris

I liked his top ten list for letterman...I was cracking up. I haven't seen Kerry much, but he really does look kinda weird when he smiles...course, I don't care, but i just noticed it. I like how he talked about Bush pushing the global community and his advisors away...
Amber

Yeah, my mom calls them the Republocrats, Demopublicans...etc.
Amber

I know...
 

my home state went financially downhill after "Slickwilly" was elected...Hasnt recovered under the Repubs Regime either.

I agree with the Democratic candidate (Brad Carson) who is running for US Senate, "We should take care of the people & the problems of our state instead of showing loyalty to the political party".

Brian j.

Strong closer. We will be just fine. The debates are right around the corner.

One thing Kerry will take care of is this mess in Iraq--

Believe me this chaos, known as Iraq, will not be the same under Kerry as it is under Bush--thousands of Americans have died because of Bush, for no reason...no connection to Al Qaeda, and Bush is slowly determined to turn our government into a totalitarionism... "LISTEN UP WORLD , IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH US, WE WILL BOMB YOU, AND SET UP NEW GOVERNMENTS FOR YOU, AND KILL YOU, BECAUSE YOU CANT FIX THINGS YOURSELF!"

Chris

I hope that's not true, but i'm looking forward to seeing the new devious, lie filled way Bush et. al. will find to steal it, if it is very close...Perhaps he will have a whole state declared mentally insane? Maybe he'll erase the identities of democrats in key urban areas?(again) only this time he will erase them so thoroughly, that no evidence will get back to his campaign.... :shocked:
AMber

They should have immediately hit back with FORGED URANIUM DOCUMENTS from Niger.
Don't worry about Gallop. Their method is skewed.
Kerry will mop the floor with George in the debates. He doesn't have a leg to stand on.

You're already watching it. Swift Boat Vets and the CBS controversy. The story isn't the docs, the story is Shrub's desertion. Now who do you think is helping the media spin this? Karl Rove. They are desperate. this is a horse race. Don't let anybody tell you any different. They want you to think Kerry can't win.

Uh...
 

Won't Shrub have a hard time debating when Dick Cheney has him sitting in his lap??? Gotta be hard to have yer hand up yer puppet while sitting, Maybe they can have Cheney gargle some water as Shrub attempts to spout his spiel, Just to see WHO really is in charge....Bwahahahahaa!!!

Kerry held a press conference earlier this afternoon where he kicked ass too.

Yep, I just wonder how far it will really go. As far as I can tell - they'll all stop at nothing... :mad: :eek: Most heinous debacle ever, and all that...
AMber

Didnt know about that..maybe CSPAN will be showing it.

His public speaking appearances have been really good lately...his speech at NYU yesterday was very good...He has been saying it like it is, defending his voting record, and standing by it, saying why Bush is wrong for America, what Bush has done wrong in Iraq, and what he wouldve done differently...and what he plans to do even though Bush has already messed everything up..

Chris

Well, with all due respect, the CBS story is not the sesertion, it was CBS' underhand and partisan methods. The story could have been about anything :shrug:

As for the Swift Boat Vets, that was a travesty.

And for my fellow Georgians, where it often feels like no matter who you vote for here, Bush will win..Many polls had Bush leading in GA with some 20 pts or so in the polls...Well the latest GA Rasmussen Poll has

Georgia: Bush 53% Kerry 42%

Def. not a victory for Kerry, but it's also not looking like the big Bush landslide it was expected to be

Chris

We can only hope!!!!

True...
 

The thing that bothered me about the CBS mess was DNC chairman (Terry 'McWhatshisname') appearring on TV acting like he was so ever happy that these papers appearred...He was to the point where he was salivating like Rev.Jerry Falwell when he saw the take of the Sunday's "offering plates".

Brian j.

I have mucho respect for any Rethug who didn't vote yes on Iraq. He's got brains. Not a lot, but some. :D

Maybe...
 

this Rethug got sick of seeing the daily beheadings in Iraq...I know I have!

Brian "It's a **** sandwich and we all have to take a bite" j.

He's not that strong, my friend. He whipped Weld into submission, but that was for a Senate seat. It's a much different ballpark this time around. I know he'll kill Shrub in the debates, but he can't come off as too brash or harsh like he did in the '96 debates. That works for us folks in MA and other liberals, but it will not work with the rest of the country. I'm crossing my fingers, though. And it's the Edwards/Cheney debate I REALLY want to see. :lol:

OMG, Full Metal Jacket was on TV last night! :laugh: Love that line.

Also love the one where he says "You move slower than old people f*ck!" :lol:

So where's the outrage over Robert Novak? He OUTED a CIA agent, for God's sake. That's a felony, in case you didn't know. Yet, he's still gainfully employed as both a newspaper columnist AND has a regular gig on CNN. Why?

And on a brighter subject, the polls show Kerry within 6 points of Bush in South Carolina. Some maps are now coloring SC as pink--not red. There must be some truth to those polls because John Edwards will be campaigning here tomorrow.

Cheney is famous for his temper and for controlling it. Edwards, on the other hand is a smooth talking trial lawyer. So, hopefully Cheney will lose his temper and that will be that.

Truer...
 

words that you have said...Have to agree with you because that is exactly the political scope here in Oklahoma, What works in MA doesnt work here and vice-versa (I dont think a Mass. US Senate candidate offended a large Native American tribe with rhetoric...A tribe I am a member of!!!)

Brian j.