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Villavic 08-19-2004 06:08 PM

What song would you choose for the SYW album title?
 
Can't remember if this was already asked.

Say you will is a cool single, though it's the less mystic Stevie song I have hear. Mystic, dark, mistrerious is usually a Stevie style (Sisters of the moon, Sara, GDW..).

Does anybody know why they choose this song for the album title?

And.. what song from the album would you have chosen for the album title?
My choice could be between Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden.

By the way, does anybody know why they choose Tango in the night for that album title?

amber 08-19-2004 06:14 PM

I think I might choose Steal Your Heart Away :) Although in my mind that would be a hard choice.
AMber

sands of time 08-19-2004 06:22 PM

come :eek:

EveryHour 08-19-2004 06:24 PM

Hmm...I would tend to guess SYW was chosen as the title because it was seen as a "strong song" and/or because of the subject matter: "It always seems to heal the wounds if I can get you to dance". The song has a feel of optimism in the future of FM to me. If another song were to be the title, it would HAVE to be Destiny Rules. Though I "get" why SYW was chosen based on the song, I think DR is a much better title standing alone, and very appropriate for FM. I think someone before has suggested a good title would have been Twist Of Fate, and I think that is excellent, especially with Stevie and Lindsey returning to their B/N dynamic.

I've never heard a specific account of why TITN was named so. I think it's a good album title and sticks with that "mysticism" that we expect from the band.

MacMan 08-19-2004 06:37 PM

I was just thining about this yesterday.... I was wondering if there was a few songs put up as contenders and a band vote!

I like Say You Will.. Althou Destiny Rules is good too.. They should have or could have done "What's the World Coming To" and that would have been kind of funny in a way.

sodascouts 08-19-2004 06:42 PM

"Destiny Rules" seems most fitting to me.

dissention 08-19-2004 07:04 PM

Come

Destiny Rules is too hokey, IMO.

rezamatic 08-19-2004 08:06 PM

It seems to me that "Destiny Rules" makes the most sense, because it's the whole 'holy crap they still managed to get back together and record an album' notion. The idea of endurance, that destiny does rule and that this band lives on.

...sounds like a VH1 promo...

All I know for sure is that "Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" is probably the worst choice out of them all :-) What a weird album title that would have been.

MacMan 08-19-2004 08:08 PM

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It seems to me that "Destiny Rules" makes the most sense, because it's the whole 'holy crap they still managed to get back together and record an album' notion. The idea of endurance, that destiny does rule and that this band lives on.
For the same reason I suggested "What's The World Coming To"... In a tongue in cheek kind of way :laugh:

ontheEdgeof17 08-19-2004 08:10 PM

What's The World Coming To is a good title. Little too long to put in that little box in the corner during music videos. Oh wait, they don't make videos.


-Curtis

diamondsnake 08-19-2004 08:13 PM

Running Through the Garden sounds mystical and beautiful if you ask me!
Ummm, Destiny Rules sounds sort of cheesy if you haven't heard how beautiful and catchy the song is...

diamondsnake 08-19-2004 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
What's The World Coming To is a good title. Little too long to put in that little box in the corner during music videos. Oh wait, they don't make videos.


-Curtis

They made a music video for Peacekeeper, don't you remember how great that was?

ontheEdgeof17 08-19-2004 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
They made a music video for Peacekeeper, don't you remember how great that was?



:laugh: So good I forgot about it.


-Curtis

Johnny Stew 08-19-2004 08:50 PM

'Destiny Rules' is, to me, the best choice. The title says it all. 'What's The World Coming To' wouldn't have been a bad choice either.

I didn't like 'Say You Will' as an album title at first, but it's since grown on me... because I think it has a nice amount of ambiguity to it.

'Come' as a Fleetwood Mac album title? No thanks.
They've already named an album after a penis euphemism, so let's skip the orgasm euphemism. They're not Mötley Crüe, thank you very much. :)

Cristian 08-19-2004 09:03 PM

Come
 
Oh come on...

Fleetwood Mac - Penguin
Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
Fleetwood Mac - Tusk
Fleetwood Mac - Mirage
Fleetwood Mac - Live
Fleetwood Mac - Mirage
......
Fleetwood Mac - Come

It just flows too well... :woohoo:

dissention 08-19-2004 09:19 PM

Destiny Rules sounds cheesy as hell, IMO, just as cheesy as Say You Will.

Come is short and sweet (shut up, you wise asses) and sounds less flakey.

Johnny Stew 08-19-2004 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Destiny Rules sounds cheesy as hell, IMO, just as cheesy as Say You Will.

Come is short and sweet (shut up, you wise asses) and sounds less flakey.

The album is named, so it really doesn't matter much.
But 'Come' sounds too pedestrian when taken in one context, and too crass when taken in the other context.

One can find crassness everywhere they turn, and, as I said, Fleetwood Mac is not some cocky, let's-get-laid heavy metal band. They can do better than an album titled 'Come,' in my opinion.

EveryHour 08-19-2004 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Destiny Rules sounds cheesy as hell, IMO, just as cheesy as Say You Will.

Come is short and sweet (shut up, you wise asses) and sounds less flakey.

:laugh: Ugh.

Is it any more "cheesy" than Mirage, The Wild Heart, etc.? Just wondering how you feel about those titles. :shrug:

dissention 08-19-2004 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
The album is named, so it really doesn't matter much.
But 'Come' sounds too pedestrian when taken in one context, and too crass when taken in the other context.

One can find crassness everywhere they turn, and, as I said, Fleetwood Mac is not some cocky, let's-get-laid heavy metal band. They can do better than an album titled 'Come,' in my opinion.

Come as a title would better represent the album than Destiny Rules. Destiny Rules sounds like it could be the name of a cheesy, early-nineties pop album by Belinda Carlisle. :sorry:

However, I highly doubt that upon first hearing of the title, people would think of it in a crass way. It's Fleetwood Mac, for cripes sake.

dissention 08-19-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EveryHour
:laugh: Ugh.

Is it any more "cheesy" than Mirage, The Wild Heart, etc.? Just wondering how you feel about those titles. :shrug:

No, I think those titles represent their respective albums well, whereas Say You Will does not. It's too sunny for such a dark album.

dissention 08-19-2004 09:40 PM

Also, I think Illume would have been a great title for the album. :nod:

GypsySorcerer 08-19-2004 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Also, I think Illume would have been a great title for the album. :nod:

That was going to be my choice.....even though I despise the song. :laugh:

Johnny Stew 08-19-2004 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Come as a title would better represent the album than Destiny Rules. Destiny Rules sounds like it could be the name of a cheesy, early-nineties pop album by Belinda Carlisle. :sorry:

Well, let's just thank our lucky stars they didn't name it 'From A Distance.' :laugh: :p

"Destiny Rules" would make a statement... "Come" is just a lonely verb, without anything to qualify it.
'Mirage' and 'Rumours' were effective because they're nouns... not just because they were "short and sweet" titles.

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Originally Posted by dissention
However, I highly doubt that upon first hearing of the title, people would think of it in a crass way. It's Fleetwood Mac, for cripes sake.

There is absolutely no way you can use "Come" as a stand-alone word, and not have people's minds automatically go to the gutter.

Heck, even 70 year old grandmothers reading trashy romance novels, know what "come" stands for!

Although with that title, FM might have sold an additional 200 albums to horny 15 year old boys. :) :laugh:

Johnny Stew 08-19-2004 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Also, I think Illume would have been a great title for the album. :nod:

Now on that one we can both agree. :)

Now that you mention it, "Illume" is WAY better than "Destiny Rules" as a title. For sure.

But "Destiny Rules" is still a better and more fitting title than "Come," in my opinion. :)

EveryHour 08-19-2004 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
No, I think those titles represent their respective albums well, whereas Say You Will does not. It's too sunny for such a dark album.

I was referring to your hatred of Destiny Rules as a title, not SYW.:)

Illume is a beautiful word, but I can see it more as a Stevie solo album title than FM. I thought I liked it as a title for a second, but I actually kinda think that one is cheesy...sounds like an Enya album or something. :sorry: :)

ontheEdgeof17 08-19-2004 10:00 PM

Fleetwood Mac: Smells of Nag ChampRa


It could work. :nod:


-Curt

EveryHour 08-20-2004 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Well, let's just thank our lucky stars they didn't name it 'From A Distance.' :laugh: :p

:laugh: :lol: Oh, lord! I was about 8 when that album came out and I played it to death. I've been pro-peace since birth, and I remember thinking "hell yeah" with the title song. What was I thinking?!







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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Although with that title, FM might have sold an additional 200 albums to horny 15 year old boys.:laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: Now that's a good point! I know a lot of you like Come for a title, but can you truly get into it?! A commercial: "The latest release from Fleetwood Mac is Come". Or in print in your Target flyer:

Onsale 4-15-03
Fleetwood Mac
Come

:shrug: :woohoo:

tynan88 08-20-2004 12:48 AM

I think any of the songs would have been appropriate but I would've been scared if it Say Goodbye or Goodbye Baby :laugh: :laugh:

And what's this about a Peacekeeper music video...I've never heard of it, I actually don't think that would be such a bad name for the album. My favourite would be Running Through The Garden or Everybody Finds Out :shocked: Everbody Finds Out, I just think thats brilliant.

Tynan

wondergirl9847 08-20-2004 01:13 AM

Umm...
 
Why does it have to be named for a song, Mirage wasn't, Penguin wasn't...Rumours wasn't....Then Play On wasn't....Time wasn't....

Fleetwood Mac - Dark Corridors (I dunno, because of the darkness of the album and a corridor leads you to the unknown...just like with the band, who knows where they will end up....)

Fleetwood Mac - Colour (Because I like the way the Brits spell words. Rumours...Colour...LOL Ironic because they don't WEAR color, the cover is gray, they are in all black. You also have colors in songs, Red Rover...Silver Girl...uhhh...Gardens have flowers that are colorful, Illume reminds me of light and color...I don't know. :laugh: )

dissention 08-20-2004 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Well, let's just thank our lucky stars they didn't name it 'From A Distance.' :laugh: :p

Regardless if the song itself is torturous, the title "From A Distance" worked great, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
"Destiny Rules" would make a statement... "Come" is just a lonely verb, without anything to qualify it.

Stevie can save those flakey statements for a solo album. Great song, terrible name. It's just soooooooooo cheesy.

cliffdweller 08-20-2004 10:10 AM

I think "Murrow Turning Over In His Grave" would have said it all.
:laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :laugh: :lol:

Serrart 08-20-2004 10:11 AM

Favourite title: Everybody Finds Out

Runner-ups: Destiny Rules, Steal Your Heart Away

Romy

MirrorInTheSky 08-20-2004 10:25 AM

I'd have to go with Thrown Down because it's edgy, dark, and would have gone beautifully with the cover since it looks like they were all thrown down on the ground. You could also say that they've thrown down a good beat.

CarneVaca 08-20-2004 10:28 AM

You guys are missing the obvious:

PEACEKEEPER

Come would be a good title too, but perhaps too risque. Destiny Rules would be gag-inducing.

Everybody Finds Out would be kind of cool too.

But no matter what, Say You Will is an awful title, and I bet it has cost a few sales.

cliffdweller 08-20-2004 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Serrart
Steal Your Heart Away

Romy

Ahhhh, now there you go.

ShangriLaTroubl 08-20-2004 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tynan88

And what's this about a Peacekeeper music video...I've never heard of it

Tynan

It wasn't much of a music video...but it was one...It was a video from the Tour rehearsals (although they were much more done up than they usually are in rehearsals)...of them performing the song..it was released on VH1...played a little bit around the time SYW came out...nice little video I guess.. couldve been much more...and the good part is in the end, a nice hug b/w Stevie and Lindsey and Stevie laughs and goes "do these guys know eachother?"

Chris

bikerchic 08-20-2004 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic
My choice could be between Destiny Rules and Running Through the Garden.

Running Through the Garden - definitely a Stevie solo album title, not FM, too feminine.

Thrown Down - great song and excellent song writing IMO but too negative for a title.

Everybody Finds Out - more great song writing, another one of my fav's....title though, maybe.

I think out of all the song titles, it would have to be Destiny Rules, although Steal Your Heart Away sounds kind of good & could mean "let us steal your heart away for awhile, while you listen to this".

David 08-20-2004 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Come

Destiny Rules is too hokey, IMO.

I'd vote for "Come," too -- why not try to generate sales? It worked for "Ulysses"!

"Destiny Rules" has always baffled me: is "rules" supposed to be a verb ("destiny rules our lives") or a noun ("traffic rules")? I think it's just another senseless nothing of a phrase, the sort of phrase you'd find in a junior high yearbook next to your classmate's signature. It's vapid (when anyone starts talking about destiny, I generally check out) but it's nonetheless the kind of thing that strikes lots of people as profound.

Of course, maybe Stevie had the right idea when she wrote: My destiny says that I'm destined to come.

David 08-20-2004 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerchic
Running Through the Garden - definitely a Stevie solo album title, not FM, too feminine.

Or, conversely, too evocative of manure.

Johnny Stew 08-20-2004 02:45 PM

Wow, not much love for the more metaphysical titles. "Flakey." "Too Feminine." "Vapid." :shrug:

I guess I just prefer titles that are more evocative and perhaps a little more "romantic," than those that lean towards the masculine or the aggressive, or towards mundanity.

Maybe it's the hippy in me. :)


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