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77Rumours77 08-17-2004 02:51 PM

TV Ad Against Bruce Springsteen Tour
 
TV Ad Against Bruce Springsteen Tour


Rocker Bruce Springsteen has been slammed for his upcoming concert tour to unseat current President George W. Bush.

Marilyn O'Grady, a Conservative Party candidate for the Senate, has launched a television ad campaign against the rock'n'roll star.

The Vote For Change tour is one of the most overtly political statements of Springsteen's 30 year career and he is joined by other significant acts, including rockers Pearl Jam, John Mellencamp and the Dixie Chicks.

In the ad, O'Grady says, "He thinks making millions with a song-and-dance routine that allows him to tell you how to vote."

"Here's my vote: Boycott the Boss. If you don't buy his politics, don't buy his music."

The commercials are set to run on Fox News channel before the tour starts in October.
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First of all, I just need to say that this is a big bucket of warm BULL****! I am so glad that there is a political "tour" going on this summer against bush. There needs to be more of that. :)
The thing that pisses me off about this artical is why is this targeted at the Boss? The Dixie Chickens are in on this, Boonie Raitt (SP?), John Mellencapm, REM, and others are on this tour too. So don't target just one artist Target the tour.
I don't give a flying fu*k who you are, you do not trash one of my biggest musical influences.
Boycott... Who are you telling to boycott this? Kerry Supportes. There not going to listen to you crap anyways. All I/they want is Bush out of office. Freedom OF SPEECH ****ERS! People should be able to do what they want and say what they want. This is AMERICA! The last thing I need is some politician telling my to boycott something. You guys don't listen to people like me so why should I listen to you.

Ok that was my rant!.... Be sure to check out my "Bush Needs to leave thread" :rolleyes:

Patti 08-17-2004 02:58 PM

Yet another attempt at mind control by the Republican party.

strandinthewind 08-17-2004 02:58 PM

I think once a movie star, singer, etc., puts themselves in the political arena, then they cannot be surprised when people who do not like what they say react in this manner.

In any event, Do I think this woman is trying to start a witch hunt a la the Dixie Chicks - yes. Do I think she is a horrible person for it, yes. Do I question her right to do it - no. Do I think the artist has the right to act surprised when some harpy like this does something like this - No.

Also - the Dixie Chicks and country radio are one thing, but The Boss, who sells out ARENAS to this day, is quite another. She will fail.

dissention 08-17-2004 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
"He thinks making millions with a song-and-dance routine that allows him to tell you how to vote."

It should read:

"I think running for the senate makes my opinions more important than the opinions of others."

She's a ballsy chick, if I do say so myself. She must think that just because she makes the thousands needed for a TV spot, that allows her to tell us what artist to like.

I'd be willing to bet that this is going to turn off a lot of people, fans or otherwise. I think it's an unwritten rule that you just don't mess with Bruce.

strandinthewind 08-17-2004 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I'd be willing to bet that this is going to turn off a lot of people, fans or otherwise. I think it's an unwritten rule that you just don't mess with Bruce.

YEP!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Johnny Stew 08-17-2004 03:16 PM

I think they're going after the wrong guy, that's for sure.

The Dixie Chicks are (or at least, were) well-liked, but Springsteen is LOVED, and deeply respected. He's a "working-class hero" in people's eyes, and a rock icon, period.

A lot of people have a deep affection for The Boss, and going after him, is like going after any other American institution.

It'll be interesting to see if this back-fires on Ms. O'Grady.

77Rumours77 08-17-2004 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
It'll be interesting to see if this back-fires on Ms. O'Grady.

If...? Its more a question of when. :laugh:

gldstwmn 08-17-2004 04:21 PM

I don't think he'll respond. Let these fools keep it up.

sodascouts 08-17-2004 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
In any event, Do I think this woman is trying to start a witch hunt a la the Dixie Chicks - yes. Do I think she is a horrible person for it, yes. Do I question her right to do it - no. Do I think the artist has the right to act surprised when some harpy like this does something like this - No.

Also - the Dixie Chicks and country radio are one thing, but The Boss, who sells out ARENAS to this day, is quite another. She will fail.

A horrible person? A tad harsh. At any rate this IS a big mistake. I adore the Boss and so do most people. In fact I was just blasting "Thunder Road" on my way to Target today, lol. Stupid move on her part.

dissention 08-17-2004 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts
A horrible person? A tad harsh. At any rate this IS a big mistake. I adore the Boss and so do most people. In fact I was just blasting "Thunder Road" on my way to Target today, lol. Stupid move on her part.

I think anyone who would belittle and question a man's constitutional right to freely express his political views has at least a hint of the horrible-ness to them. ;) :laugh:

CarneVaca 08-17-2004 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
[B]I don't give a flying fu*k who you are, you do not trash one of my biggest musical influences.
Boycott... Who are you telling to boycott this? Kerry Supportes.

Easy there. This numbnuts has as much right to speak up against Bruce as Bruce does to speak up against Bush or anyone else.

strandinthewind 08-17-2004 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts
A horrible person? A tad harsh. At any rate this IS a big mistake. I adore the Boss and so do most people. In fact I was just blasting "Thunder Road" on my way to Target today, lol. Stupid move on her part.

I used "horrible person" because I am so fed up with the Republican scorched earth policy of destroying anyone or anything against W's reelection by wrapping themselves in the flag and saying anyone and/or anything that dares to speak out against them is an unpatriotic member of Al-Q who needs to be financially slaughtered and publicly humiliated, which is what this person is doing and/or implying. I think that make her horrible :shrug:

I guess I am stil smarting from Max Cleland's defeat here in GA. The R's, with W's blessings, called a man "unpatriotic" and "Al-Q sympathiser" who left two legs and an arm on the battlefield in Vietnam - they called him this because he dared to vote against the creation of the Dept. of Homeland Sec. becuase the R.'s wanted to use the furor over 9/11 to slip in denying these 144,000 govt. employess their right to be unionized and get other govt. benefits that every other govt. employee gets and that some of these people would be getting until their jobs were switched for them by the creation of this new Agency. That was horrible. May God forgive them for that because that was just a sin in my book. Again, the man ledt about half of his body defending this country and those who chose not to go called him unpatriotic - that is the length Karl Rove will go to to keep power and it just sickens me.

Note: Nancy :xoxo: - this rant was not at you darlin' :angel: :xoxo:

77Rumours77 08-17-2004 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Easy there. This numbnuts has as much right to speak up against Bruce as Bruce does to speak up against Bush or anyone else.

Yea I know, It just baffles me that this country has freedom of speech and yet people are being told to "Boycott" something over what is being said.

strandinthewind 08-17-2004 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
Yea I know, It just baffles me that this country has freedom of speech and yet people are being told to "Boycott" something over what is being said.

Well, that is too simple an explanation IMO. For instance, would you buy the record of someone who played in support of W and went around saying W was the only way to go and Kerry must be defeated at all costs. I submit most on the left would lose their indignation and not buy that person's product - but I could be wrong. So, the sword cuts both ways. It is not people responding to a famous person's overt political speech that I object to - I think that is fair game. What I object to is the R's strategy of launching these huge attack machines to prey on the patriotism this country was feeling after 9/11 to malign these people. A good example is the Dixie Chicks. Sean Hannity, a far right wing pundit, actually said Natalie Maines' put our troops in harm's way by telling a London audience prior to the Iraq war that she was ashamed the Pres. of the U.S. was from Texas. Many people believed Hannity and others who persecuted NM's silly and innocuous comment and the rest is history. That is why I think such things are dangerous no matter who foes them. :cool:

gldstwmn 08-17-2004 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I guess I am stil smarting from Max Cleland's defeat here in GA.

Then let's not forget McCain. What kind of dirt must they have on him? They eat their own. It's disgusting.

Sugar 08-18-2004 08:31 AM

This is all just noise.

While O'Grady certainly has a right to say what she wants, this is stupid. First off, if Bruce NEVER sold another record, would Bruce really be hurting? I think not. Second, he is so beloved I can't BELIEVE this woman actually thinks she is going to turn people against him... has anyone heard her new album? Is it any good? :lol: Third, I just hate copycats, and this just seems to be an attempt at trying to re-do the whole Dixie Chicks thing. I hope the Dixie Chicks made a lot of money off all the people who blindly destroyed their Dixie Chicks albums, and then, after all the fuss died down, went out and bought them a second time because they really did like the music! :lol: And you SO can't compare the following of the Dixie Chicks to that of "The Boss"!

Additionally, it also drives me crazy when people say, "celebrities should stay out of politics," or "It's irresponsible for celebrities to speak out on political issues." Why? They are citizens, they have as much right to hold and voice an opinion as anyone else. I certainly believe they should be prepared for any ramifications, but if they are, why not voice an opinion? :thumbsup:

CarneVaca 08-18-2004 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
Yea I know, It just baffles me that this country has freedom of speech and yet people are being told to "Boycott" something over what is being said.

Yeah, dude, that's the point. Freedom must flow both ways, or it isn't really freedom.

CarneVaca 08-18-2004 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Then let's not forget McCain. What kind of dirt must they have on him? They eat their own. It's disgusting.

All they had to do was paint the guy as unstable and then suggest he had fathered an illegitimate black child. That voters fall for this kind of thing says something about the nation in general, not just the scoundrels who concoct these tactics.

CarneVaca 08-18-2004 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar
"It's irresponsible for celebrities to speak out on political issues."

Only if they have Austrian accents and gorge on steroids. ;)

dissention 08-18-2004 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Only if they have Austrian accents and gorge on steroids. ;)

And molest women.

strandinthewind 08-18-2004 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Only if they have Austrian accents and gorge on steroids. ;)

I am just curious, other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W :laugh: - has Gov. S. been so bad. I do not remember reading about anything horrible he has done :shrug: I mean there were horror stories and doom and gloom predictions. Yet, I have not read anything that suggests that has seen its fruition :shrug:

dissention 08-18-2004 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I do not remember reading about anything horrible he has done :shrug: I mean there were horror stories and doom and gloom predictions. Yet, I have not read anything that suggests that has seen its fruition :shrug:

Because he hasn't really done much of anything, by all accounts.

Listen, I don't think the Gropenfueher is all that bad. He's left-winger when it comes to social issues (he supports gay marriage, for example) and a right-winger on fiscal issues. Which is why I don't understand his support for Bush. :shrug:

strandinthewind 08-18-2004 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Because he hasn't really done much of anything, by all accounts.

Listen, I don't think the Gropenfueher is all that bad. He's left-winger when it comes to social issues (he supports gay marriage, for example) and a right-winger on fiscal issues. Which is why I don't understand his support for Bush. :shrug:

He IMO is just staying true to the party, which I think is silly. Maybe he is trying to change the R party. If so good for him.

As for California, he took on a momumental task that I am unsure anyone will be able to cure anytime soon :cool:

P.S. I guess I am no longer allowed to say:

"other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W - :laugh: "

when it comes to govenors!!!!! :angel:

dissention 08-18-2004 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
He IMO is just staying true to the party, which I think is silly. Maybe he is trying to change the R party. If so good for him.

No, he just wants to be the next Kennedy. ;)

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
As for California, he took on a momumental task that I am unsure anyone will be able to cure anytime soon :cool:

ESPECIALLY if that someone has no experience. :shocked:

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
P.S. I guess I am no longer allowed to say:

"other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W - :laugh: "

when it comes to govenors!!!!! :angel:

So, am I no longer a nutcase? :p

strandinthewind 08-18-2004 12:20 PM

You have promoted to a blanched almond!!!!!! :laugh:

What a day I am having!!!!! AARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the levity :cool:

dissention 08-18-2004 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
You have promoted to a blanched almond!!!!!! :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
What a day I am having!!!!! AARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the levity :cool:

Anytime. :xoxo: I just responded to the "Hillary In '08" thread, so I needed the levity just as much. :lol:

strandinthewind 08-18-2004 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Anytime. :xoxo: I just responded to the "Hillary In '08" thread, so I needed the levity just as much. :lol:

I think we are a little too well read sometimes and have little patience for those who are not!!!!

I was talking with my mother the other day and she started quoting Sean Hannity as the fair and balanced truth - I started yelling and had to hang up - lest I be disowned or be a complete affront to my mother :eek: :laugh:

dissention 08-18-2004 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think we are a little too well read sometimes and have little patience for those who are not!!!!

Oh, preach it. :xoxo:

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I was talking with my mother the other day and she started quoting Sean Hannity as the fair and balanced truth - I started yelling and had to hang up - lest I be disowned or be a complete affront to my mother :eek: :laugh:

:laugh: That's like calling Scott McClellan a messenger of truth. :laugh:

EveryHour 08-18-2004 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Patti
Yet another attempt at mind control by the Republican party.

Ya think?! Shameful. :distress: :distress: :distress:

GO BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CarneVaca 08-18-2004 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I am just curious, other than being a R and therefore the screaming liberals can never ever under any circumstances give him any credit because to do so would be and oblique compliment to W :laugh: - has Gov. S. been so bad. I do not remember reading about anything horrible he has done :shrug: I mean there were horror stories and doom and gloom predictions. Yet, I have not read anything that suggests that has seen its fruition :shrug:

You've been working overtime at missing obvious points, Jason. Tsk. :p

The point is to point out the hypocrisy of the very conservatives who wanted this guy in office when they are the first to cry foul whenever a celebrity speaks up against Bush.

CarneVaca 08-18-2004 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
He IMO is just staying true to the party, which I think is silly.

Hmm... interesting. So would you consider switching your vote to the Green Party?

dissention 08-18-2004 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Hmm... interesting. So would you consider switching your vote to the Green Party?

I was waiting for it. :lol:

CarneVaca 08-18-2004 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I was waiting for it. :lol:

I'm wondering if Jason thinks staying true to the party no matter how bad it gets is silly only when that party is symbolized by an elephant. ;)

strandinthewind 08-18-2004 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Hmm... interesting. So would you consider switching your vote to the Green Party?

I am in no party :cool:

BUT - I can throw one HELLUVA party :woohoo: :woohoo: :] :]

strandinthewind 08-18-2004 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
You've been working overtime at missing obvious points, Jason. Tsk. :p

The point is to point out the hypocrisy of the very conservatives who wanted this guy in office when they are the first to cry foul whenever a celebrity speaks up against Bush.

I know - I got it.

I was just asking a related question because I had not heard anything bad about Arnold :shrug:

sodascouts 08-18-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I was talking with my mother the other day and she started quoting Sean Hannity as the fair and balanced truth - I started yelling and had to hang up - lest I be disowned or be a complete affront to my mother :eek: :laugh:

This is a springboard from what you're saying and not exactly a rebuttal to it, because of course Hannity is not fair and balanced in himself. He does, however, have a liberal commentator sharing the bill with him on FoxNews. I believe the concept was his idea, wasn't it? At least it was an idea he embraced. And I admire that gesture towards fairness. But some people act like the guy eats babies. :shrug:

dissention 08-18-2004 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts
This is a springboard from what you're saying and not exactly a rebuttal to it, because of course Hannity is not fair and balanced in himself. He does, however, have a liberal commentator sharing the bill with him on FoxNews. I believe the concept was his idea, wasn't it? At least it was an idea he embraced. And I admire that gesture towards fairness. But some people act like the guy eats babies. :shrug:

He doesn't eat babies, he's just a vicious liar.

And to say that having Colmes on that show balances things out is ludicrous, IMO. Media watchdog groups have done studies where it has been shown that Hannity gets to ask more questions, has more face-time, and on average, 13 minutes more than Colmes gets. And Colmes is so meek that he couldn't make a point if he tried. Plus, he's forced to read those hideously biased teleprompter scripts. I loved it when Susan Estrich (welcome back from the Dark Side, Linda!) was on and refused to read from it. :lol:

CarneVaca 08-18-2004 03:11 PM

Hannity has been proven as a liar. He shouts questions and doesn't shut up for the answers. He's an asshole.

I've watched a total of three minutes of this show. Three minutes I'll never get back. What an asshole.

estranged4life 08-18-2004 06:16 PM

Well...
 
I would rather pay to see Bruce, REM, Pearl Jam & company than to see the musical acts that are pro-Shrub:

Kid "Flavor for the weak" Rock
Jess-i-DUH Simple-son
Toby "Mulle-mulle-mulle-mullet man" Keith

Brian j.


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