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cliffdweller 08-03-2004 09:50 AM

Has Anyone Ever Written Anything...
 
For Stevie?

and if so, by whom? Since Stevie's written so many songs about people (famous or not) I'm wondering: what songs out there are about, or dedicated to her? I can't think of one, oh, and Lindsey doesn't count!

:wavey:

Tango 08-03-2004 10:28 AM

Will you settle for one about Stevie and Lindsey?
 
During one of The Penguin's Q&A's, Gary "Hoppy" Hodges suggested that one of Don Henley's songs (Life In The Fast Lane) was written about Stevie and Lindsey. That was quite a surprise. I don't think he would have offered up that info unless he was fairly certain of it. Too bad we can't ask Don about it! He was certainly outspoken about Stevie in the past.

Tango 08-03-2004 10:30 AM

Here's the link:
 
http://fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/qa/hoppy_qa1.htm

golddustwoman77 08-03-2004 10:39 AM

There is some debate on this, but the Brian Wilson song "Stevie" is supposed to be about our beloved Stevie or Stevie Wonder. Here is a site where you can listen to the outtake.

http://www.cabinessence.net/sounds.shtml

cliffdweller 08-03-2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango
During one of The Penguin's Q&A's, Gary "Hoppy" Hodges suggested that one of Don Henley's songs (Life In The Fast Lane) was written about Stevie and Lindsey. That was quite a surprise. I don't think he would have offered up that info unless he was fairly certain of it. Too bad we can't ask Don about it! He was certainly outspoken about Stevie in the past.


I've heard that too but it doesn't make much sense to me, especially the parts that are supposed to be about Lindsey, "he had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude, said he was ruthless said he was crude"...that doesn't sound like Lindsey at all! Or, "they had one thing in common, they were dirty and bad" I mean, does this sound like them at all? :confused:

cliffdweller 08-03-2004 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golddustwoman77
There is some debate on this, but the Brian Wilson song "Stevie" is supposed to be about our beloved Stevie or Stevie Wonder. Here is a site where you can listen to the outtake.

http://www.cabinessence.net/sounds.shtml

Thanks for the link! I'll listen to it when I get home.

GardenStateGirlie 08-03-2004 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

I've heard that too but it doesn't make much sense to me, especially the parts that are supposed to be about Lindsey, "he had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude, said he was ruthless said he was crude"...that doesn't sound like Lindsey at all! Or, "they had one thing in common, they were dirty and bad" I mean, does this sound like them at all? :confused:

If you really listen to the lyrics, yes, it sounds like them completely. And it's "they had one thing in common, they were good in bed" ;)

jadegypsy 08-03-2004 08:10 PM

actuallyI always thought Life in The Fast Lane sounded more like Stevie and DON but I guess the timing is off.

paperflowers 08-04-2004 04:31 AM

Of course there is the lovely ballad..... Stevie Nicks Sit on My Face, by the Rotters :eek:
But seriously folks......

Here are the lyrics to Life in the Fast Lane. I don't know when this song was written but it sure fits!!!!


He was a hard-headed man, he was brutally handsome
And she was terminally pretty
She held him up and he held her for ransom
In the heart of the cold, cold city
He had a nasty reputation as a cruel dude
They said he was ruthless said he was crude
They had one thing in common, they were good in bed
She said, "Faster, faster, the lights are turnin' red"

Life in the fast lane
Surely make you lose your mind
Life in the fast lane


Are you with me so far

Eager for action, hot for the game
The coming attraction, the drop of the name
They knew all the right people, they took all the right pills
They threw outrageous parties, they paid heavenly bills
There were lines on the mirror, lines on her face
She pretended not to notice she was caught up in the race
Out every evening until it was light
He was too tired to make it, she was too tired to fight about it

Life in the fast lane
Surely make you lose your mind
Life in the fast lane
Life in the fast lane
Everything all the time
Life in the fast lane

Blowing and burnin', blinded by thirst
They didn't see the stop sign, took a turn for the worst
She said, "Listen baby, you can hear the engine ring
We've been up and down this highway, haven't seen a goddamn thing"
He said, "Call the doctor, I think I'm gonna crash"
"The doctor say he's coming but you gotta pay in cash"
They went rushing down that freeway, messed around and got lost
They didn't care they were just dying to get off, and it was

Life in the fast lane
Surely make you lose your mind
Life in the fast lane
Life in the fast lane
Everything all the time
Life in the fast lane

Life in the fast lane
Life in the fast lane


Lauralie

Livia 08-04-2004 09:04 AM

Jon Bon Jovi wrote "Sometimes It's a Bitch" just for Stevie. :nod:

cliffdweller 08-04-2004 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
If you really listen to the lyrics, yes, it sounds like them completely. And it's "they had one thing in common, they were good in bed" ;)

:laugh: :laugh:

Wow, I really had it wrong all these years!!

Which makes me wonder, how would Henley know that Lindsey is good in bed? :laugh:

cliffdweller 08-04-2004 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia
Jon Bon Jovi wrote "Sometimes It's a Bitch" just for Stevie. :nod:

yeah, and from what I hear, she just LOOOOOved singing that one :rolleyes: :laugh:

:wavey:

GardenStateGirlie 08-04-2004 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
:laugh: :laugh:

Wow, I really had it wrong all these years!!

Which makes me wonder, how would Henley know that Lindsey is good in bed? :laugh:

I think there's a quote out there from one of her former boyfriends (can't remember if it was Henley..I don't think it was) that Stevie had a habit of comparing her relationships to the one she had with Lindsey. Of course, even thought they "broke up" or were "dating other people," my spidey sense tells me that the physical relationship probably didn't end right away. They were familiar with one another so hey...they kept going back to one another. Of course, I could be totally wrong :cool:

David 08-04-2004 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jadegypsy
actuallyI always thought Life in The Fast Lane sounded more like Stevie and DON but I guess the timing is off.

Not at all. The song was recorded & released in 1976, which is the year Stevie & Don dated.

Personally, I don't see much connection between those lyrics & Stevie or Lindsey. Thematically, it's sort of a precursor to Lindsey's Mary Lee Jones.

cliffdweller 08-04-2004 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
I think there's a quote out there from one of her former boyfriends (can't remember if it was Henley..I don't think it was) that Stevie had a habit of comparing her relationships to the one she had with Lindsey. Of course, even thought they "broke up" or were "dating other people," my spidey sense tells me that the physical relationship probably didn't end right away. They were familiar with one another so hey...they kept going back to one another. Of course, I could be totally wrong :cool:

Oh, I thought maybe it was from personal experience. :laugh: Kidding of course...

cliffdweller 08-04-2004 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
Not at all. The song was recorded & released in 1976, which is the year Stevie & Don dated.

Personally, I don't see much connection between those lyrics & Stevie or Lindsey. Thematically, it's sort of a precursor to Lindsey's Mary Lee Jones.

Yeah, and Henley seems the type to write about himself as "brutally handsome." :rolleyes: :laugh:

Kelly 08-05-2004 08:06 AM

Haewafy
 
Walter Egan's.."Magnet and Steel" was written about Stevie.

cliffdweller 08-05-2004 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelly
Walter Egan's.."Magnet and Steel" was written about Stevie.

Really? I knew that she sang back-up on it, but I didn't know that song was about her. Were they involved or something?

The Tower 08-09-2004 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Which makes me wonder, how would Henley know that Lindsey is good in bed? :laugh:

1977 Lindsey in the sack with 1977 Don Henley would be some of the hottest gay porn to ever hit the sheets!!

Well, one can dream.....

:thumbsup: :lol:

jwd 08-09-2004 09:34 PM

Prince lent Stevie two fingers one time.....errrrrrrr, to "Stand Back" that is. :lol:

EnchantedSLN 08-09-2004 10:13 PM

Don't forget "It's Only Love" by Sheryl Crow.

I don't know about "Life In The Fast Lane," but Don Henley said "Those Shoes" is about Stevie. Unfortunately I've looked for the article I read that in several times and have never been able to find it online.

This one is pure speculation, but I think "Dear John," the closing song to The Confessor by Joe Walsh, is also about Stevie. He thanks her in the liner notes to the album, which was released the same time as RAL.

“Dear John” by Joe Walsh

I started out to write you this letter,
But it ended up another song.
I am sorry that the news can’t be better, dear John.

When we started out I thought we were different,
We ended up exactly the same.
So in order to protect the innocent,
The names have been changed.

I just got to get back to my music (to my music).
And I know that we both promised forever,
Forever didn’t last that long.
Maybe someday I will write you a letter,
Until then at least I wrote you this song, dear John.

I just got to get back my music,
And all the things that go along with the job.
And lying in bed with the room spinning round,
It’s the price that you pay when you’re on the way down,
It’s the price that you pay.

Sincerely yours...

cliffdweller 08-11-2004 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnchantedSLN
Don't forget "It's Only Love" by Sheryl Crow.

I don't know about "Life In The Fast Lane," but Don Henley said "Those Shoes" is about Stevie. Unfortunately I've looked for the article I read that in several times and have never been able to find it online.

I forgot about IOL. Wow, I'm going to look up the lyrics to Those Shoes right now... Thanks!

EnchantedSLN 08-11-2004 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
I forgot about IOL. Wow, I'm going to look up the lyrics to Those Shoes right now... Thanks!

For anyone else wondering :)

The Eagles - "Those Shoes"

Tell us what you're gonna do tonight, Mama.
There must be someplace you can go
In the middle of the tall drinks and the drama,
There must be someone you know.

God knows, you're lookin' good enough,
But you're so smooth and the world's so rough.
You might have somethin' to lose.
Oh, no, pretty mama, what you gonna do in those shoes?

Got those pretty little straps around your ankles
Got those shiny little chains around your heart.
You go to have your independence
But you don't know just where to start.

Desperation in the singles bars
An' all those jerkoffs in their fancy cars.
You can't believe your reviews.

Oh, no, you can't do that,
Once you started wearin' those shoes.

They're lookin' at you, leanin' on you
Tell you anything you want to hear
They give you tablets of love
They're waiting for you
Got to score you
Handy with a shovel and so sincere
Ooh, they got the kid gloves

You just want someone to talk to
They just wanna get their hands on you
You get whatever you choose
Oh, no, you can't do that,
Once you started wearin' those shoes.

strandinthewind 08-11-2004 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower
1977 Lindsey in the sack with 1977 Don Henley would be some of the hottest gay porn to ever hit the sheets!!

Well, one can dream.....

:thumbsup: :lol:

That would be a whole lot of skinny and a whole lot of hair :D :D

Also, the title "Magnet and Steel" just conjures up porn to me. PPHHEEWW!!!!

cliffdweller 08-11-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
That would be a whole lot of skinny and a whole lot of hair :D :D


:laugh: :laugh: ROTFLMAO!!!!

amber 08-11-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jadegypsy
actuallyI always thought Life in The Fast Lane sounded more like Stevie and DON but I guess the timing is off.

That's what I thought too.
I love that song..."He was too tired to make it she was..too tired to fight about it" :laugh:
AMber

amber 08-11-2004 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
I think there's a quote out there from one of her former boyfriends (can't remember if it was Henley..I don't think it was) that Stevie had a habit of comparing her relationships to the one she had with Lindsey. Of course, even thought they "broke up" or were "dating other people," my spidey sense tells me that the physical relationship probably didn't end right away. They were familiar with one another so hey...they kept going back to one another. Of course, I could be totally wrong :cool:

My spidey sense said the same thing...
AMber

amber 08-11-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnchantedSLN
Don't forget "It's Only Love" by Sheryl Crow.

I don't know about "Life In The Fast Lane," but Don Henley said "Those Shoes" is about Stevie. Unfortunately I've looked for the article I read that in several times and have never been able to find it online.

That's so funny, cause when i recently heard that song on the radio, I surmised that it was about her, without knowing...
AMber "psychic" g.

gypsygem81 08-11-2004 03:38 PM

Wow, I had no idea that These Shoes was about Stevie. To be honest, I'd never really listened to the lyrics, but now that I read them you can see how it could be about Stevie. Thanks for posting the lyrics.

Love Gem

Les 08-11-2004 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango
I don't think he would have offered up that info unless he was fairly certain of it.

Hoppy seemed like a nice fella, but I have my doubts about his story. It probably has something to do with him also thinking Stevie and Lindsey glow in the dark. ;) But seriously, back when Hoppy first made his remark about Life In The Fast Lane, I read a comment from someone who said that Henley has spoken about the inspiration of the song and it was to do with him and his girlfriend at the time, and indiciting the lifestyles of all of the Eagles at the time, as well as the bigger "fast lane scene" in general. I just did a little looking around and found a few mentions of the inspiration to Life In The Fast Lane by Henley and Frey who co-wrote it with Joe Walsh.

I'm not exactly sure which publication this quote comes from, but Glenn Frey has the most humorous story --

Glenn: This began with a Joe Walsh riff—he had that signature guitar part. I had the title. The true story is: I was riding in a car with a drug dealer—a guy we used to call "The Count," because his count was never very good [laughs]. We were driving out to an Eagles poker game. I was in the passenger seat. He moved over to the left lane and started driving 75-80 miles per hour. I said, "Hey, man, slow down." He goes, "Hey, man, it’s life in the fast lane." And I thought, "Oh, my God, what a title." I didn’t write it down. I didn’t have to. Joe started playing a riff at rehearsal one day, and I said, "That’s ‘Life In The Fast Lane.’" So we started writing a song about the couple that had everything and did everything—and lost the meaning of everything. Lifestyles of the rich and miserable. I think the best line is "We’ve been up and down this highway, haven’t seen a God-damn thing."

From BAM, 1982 --

BAM: A major critic back East lambasted Hotel California because he felt that the Eagles were criticizing a lifestyle that you helped create.

Glenn: I think that's totally false. First of all, we put ourselves right in the middle of the fold-out picture inside the album--right in the middle of the crazy stuff around us. We always felt that when we wrote songs like "King of Hollywood" that we were in those songs too. We'd had our "King of Hollywood" experiences. We were never throwing stones at glass houses. We always felt we were busting ourselves when we wrote "Life in the Fast Lane." it wasn't just us pointing a finger at other people. We were living it.

From Rolling Stone, 1987 --

RS: 'Hotel California' was widely received as a sharp commentary on Southern California's penchant for superficiality and decadence. Was that your intention?

Henley: Actually, I was a little disappointed with how the record was taken, because I meant it in a much broader sense than a commentary about California. I was looking at American culture, and when I called that one song "Hotel California," I was simply using California as a microcosm for the rest of America and for the self-indulgence of our entire culture. It was, to a certain extent, about California, about the excesses out here. But in many instances, as California goes, so goes the nation. Things simply happen out here or in New York first, whether it's with drugs or fashion or artistic movements or economic trends, and then work their way toward the middle of America. And that's what I was trying to get at. With that record, we reached some sort of creative peak, as all bands do. You can go back and trace any band's career and find that one album that was the zenith of their productivity. That was ours, and we knew it.

RS: One of the songs on that album, "Life in the Fast Lane," seemed to be indicting the hedonistic use of drugs, particularly cocaine. Yet at the same time it was widely presumed that the Eagles weren't exactly innocents when it came to such problems.

Henley: I guess there was a brief period of time where I tried to put some kind of creative stock into drugs, but I realized pretty soon that you could get more work, and better work, done if you were straight. We did a lot of work on drugs in the Eagles. Our schedule was just so grueling; we didn't have the stamina otherwise. We'd do things like go out on tour, play a few gigs, then get on a Lear jet and fly to Miami and start recording at four o'clock in the morning, then get back on the Lear jet at three or four in the afternoon and go back to Cleveland and do a concert. And we'd do it all just to meet deadlines. So we took drugs. But from the beginning in the Eagles, I would get in fights with the other guys about smoking joints or doing coke before going onstage. Using drugs would screw up their voices, and they'd sing out of tune. So I got the nickname of Grandpa. I mean, drugs had their place, but I was never one of those guys to get up and roll a breakfast joint.
I think we reached our saturation point with drugs around '77 or '78. And, of course, now they're very unpopular. Now Alcoholics Anonymous is the addiction - people who want to sin and tell and confess in public. I'm sick of those people. Every week in People you read some crap about somebody who was on drugs. You know, keep it to yourself. Have some dignity, for chrissakes.

From GQ, 1991 --

In Henley’s view, the group reached its high point in 1976, with the release of Hotel California, a devastating critique of the band’s own life-style. L.A. scenestress Loree Rodkin, who was dating Henley at the time, recalls “the dynamics of people making so much money at such young ages: affording private planes and wanting to go to Paris for dinner. That was the fast lane to me."

Nightbirdjel 08-11-2004 06:00 PM

Just guessing....
 
I always kinda thought that "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles might be about Stevie. I also suspected "Runaway Trains" by Tom Petty might be about her also. I have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back this up, I just decided this on my own so I'm probably way off base here.

amber 08-11-2004 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightbirdjel
I always kinda thought that "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles might be about Stevie. I also suspected "Runaway Trains" by Tom Petty might be about her also. I have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back this up, I just decided this on my own so I'm probably way off base here.

I thought that too, about witchy woman, then some poster said that it was supposedly about Linda Ronstadt...
AMber

gypsygem81 08-11-2004 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightbirdjel
I always kinda thought that "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles might be about Stevie. I also suspected "Runaway Trains" by Tom Petty might be about her also. I have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back this up, I just decided this on my own so I'm probably way off base here.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure that Witchy Woman was written a while before Stevie and Don met.

Love Gem

EveryHour 08-11-2004 06:42 PM

I know I've brought this one up in the past, but I realized I've been misquoting the title as "I'm Sorry" when it's actually "I Know". It's on Joe Walsh's 1992 album Songs For A Dying Planet. It's a very simple, sweet song that could be about anyone for all I know, but the fact that it came out in 1992 after Stevie had been so openly talking about her love for Joe the previous year makes me wonder. Can anyone confirm that it's about someone other than Stevie? {Wait! I don't want to know! ;) Unfortunately, I like assuming it's about Stevie for my own benefit. :distress: I love the idea of them together.} Joe is currently married, isn't he? Stevie also doesn't seem as friendly with him as she is with her other exes either, which makes me wonder if there is still unresolved feelings there. Am I wrong (are they still friends)? I also like to think Destiny Rules is about Joe, but that's a whole 'nother thread. ;)

BTW, I really do want to know if it's about someone else. :)

Here are the lyrics to "I Know":

I know
Things aren't the same as they were before
Oh, baby, I know
And all I can say is, "I'm sorry"
I'm so sorry

And I don't
Know if you think of me anymore
But I still love you
I still love you too

EveryHour 08-11-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsygem81
Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure that Witchy Woman was written a while before Stevie and Don met.

Love Gem

Definitely.

(...and though it could've just been for the sake of the song, Stevie did/does not have "raven hair")

cliffdweller 08-12-2004 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber
I thought that too, about witchy woman, then some poster said that it was supposedly about Linda Ronstadt...
AMber

I've heard this too, other than "raven hair" I don't think the song fits Linda AT ALL. I just don't think of her as devilish, go figure :shrug:

EveryHour 08-12-2004 12:08 PM

WOW! I always thought I was the only one who thought The Eagles' "Those Shoes" might be about Stevie! I'd bet Stevie had a lot of intense heart-to-hearts with Don about beginning her solo career, and this song spawned from that.

cliffdweller 08-12-2004 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveryHour
WOW! I always thought I was the only one who thought The Eagles' "Those Shoes" might be about Stevie! I'd bet Stevie had a lot of intense heart-to-hearts with Don about beginning her solo career, and this song spawned from that.

That song is really sinsiter too...almost creepy. When was it written?

EveryHour 08-12-2004 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
That song is really sinsiter too...almost creepy. When was it written?

Isn't it though? It's a great one for sure. Awesome beat and talk-box guitar by (who else?) Joe Walsh. Not sure exactly when it was written, but it's on the '79 album The Long Run. So if it is about Stevie facing a solo career/her stardom, the timing is right.

ladystardust 08-13-2004 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Tower
1977 Lindsey in the sack with 1977 Don Henley would be some of the hottest gay porn to ever hit the sheets!!

Well, one can dream.....

:thumbsup: :lol:

i'm just imagining the afros colliding!! :eek:


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