Songs that Should have Made the cut...
 

Hey all,

I came across a demo of Juliet done with Fleetwood Mac for Tango In the Night. Of Course, Juliet eventually made it on The Other Side of the Mirror, but I think it would have made a cool FM song!

So what songs out there, demo or otherwise, should have made the cut on a Fleetwood Mac album, but didn't.

Thoughts?

MikeBangle

'Silver Springs', of course....but THE DANCE wouldn't have been THE DANCE if SS was "well-known"....kinda glad it was left off


"Smile At You" off Mirage


...That's all for me at the moment...I like most of the albums as is.



-Curtis

I agree, Juliet could have been a good choice. Another song would be Joan Of Arc - that should've been on Tango In The Night as well, in my opinion.

That demo of Juliet is unbearable. She sounds terrible.

I always thought If You Were My Love should've made it onto Mirage, the Mac version of it rocks.

Julia and Gold and Braid should've been on Bella Donna in place of Think About It and After the Glitter Fades.

Down On Rodeo should've been on SYW instead of Bleed To Love Her.

Anything could've taken the place of Sweet Girl on The Dance.

I agree completely witht those 3, but I'll expand on the Bella Donna one. Gold and Braid replaces ATGF but Blue Lamp replaces Think About It which should've been on Rumours 4 years earlier knocking IDWTK off the map completely.

Agreed. Would have been an awesome opener to the second side.



-Curtis

That's foremost on my list, too.

Also:

Bella Donna

• "Gold & Braid" instead of "The Highwayman"

• "Insider" instead of "Stop Dragging My Heart Around"

The Wild Heart

• "Destiny" instead of "Gate & Garden"

• "Sleeping Angel" instead of "Nothing Ever Changes"

• "Garbo" instead of "Enchanted"

Rock a Little

• "Lady from the Mountain" instead of "I Sing for the Things"

• "Jimmy Come On Back" instead of "No Spoken Word"

The Other Side of the Mirror

• "The Crystal" instead of "Whole Lotta Trouble"

• "Dial the Number" instead of "I Still Miss Someone"

• "Tragedy of One's Own Soul" instead of "Doing the Best That I Can"

Mirage

• "Smile at You" instead of "Straight Back"

Oh most definitely... this would've been an awesome addition to the album. They should put it on the Mirage reissue... should that ever be released. :laugh:

The other day I was going to post a thread about subbing LFTM for I Sing For The Things. Freaky.

But I disagree on Tragedy Of One's Own Soul. I much prefer Doing The Best That I Can. And No Spoken Word is terrific, as is The Highwayman.
And I would sub Garbo for Beauty And The Beast. Sue me.
If Sleeping Angel bumps anything, it should be I Will Run To You.

And I'd sub She Still Loves Him for Some Become Strangers or even HAEWAFY. Sorry.


I think Think About It from the remastered is great and would have done well on a Mac album, along with Planets.

But it works both ways. The Mac benefited from the BD leftover Gypsy.

- Jake

The version on Enchanted is better, IMO.

- Jake

I like the Dance version better than that one because she has some powerful vocals on it, especially at the end, but overall the song is pretty blah.

Man you guys know your stuff! :nod:

I think Twist of Fate would be a great FM song, with Christine and Stevie singing the chorus. This would have been a "perfect" song for a Christine guest spot on SYW, maybe replacing Bleed to Love Her. I love BTLH, but we already had a nice version of that on The Dance.

I do have to qualify this by saying I do NOT want Lindsey's solo work taken over by FM; I just think Twist of Fate is a very FM-y kind of song.

This could take a while :) so I'll limit myself to the FM albums:

On Rumours:
-"Silver Springs" instead of "Oh Daddy"

On Mirage:
- "If You Were My Love" instead of "Straight Back"
- "Smile At You" instead of "Oh Diane"
- "Goodbye Angel" instead of the horrific "Empire State"
- Any half-finished leftover demo/idea (yes maybe even "Teen Beat") instead of "Only Over You" :sorry: Ahem. Why not "Blue Monday"?

On Tango:
"Down Endless Street" instead of "Family Man"

On Behind The Mask:
- "Intuition" instead of "Stand On The Rock"
- "Victim Of Love" instead of "Do You Know"
- "Got No Home" instead of "When The Sun Goes Down"

On Say You Will:
"Down On Rodeo" instead of "What's The World Coming To"
"Space Needle" (among so many others) instead of "Silver Girl"

Mmmm, good one. Only I'd put it in place of Say You Will to make the dark feel of the album is more consistent.

I want "Joan Of Arc" to get albumized. Just because it's so cool sounding.

"Space Needle?" Needs to be on an album. Preferably a Stevie solo album, but hey - I'm fine with anything re: Space Needle.

Dark feel? I think SYHA and WTWCT are pretty upbeat sounding. :confused:
You just want to cut that song. :wavey:

- Jake

Or even Ricky or WHR&REDFY instead of Family Man.

- Jake

I love the rhythm/bounce of the Enchanted version.

- Jake

Those songs aren't dark?

"All alone we go
All day after day
All alone we suffer
Oh, steal your heart away
It's the same old thing
In the same old way
All alone we suffer
Oh, steal your heart away"

"What's the world coming to
What they say isn't true
You can't plant no seed
Well there's only greed
I can walk anywhere
I can walk anytime
But the lone highway
Is the only way

"Every night, every day
In this house filled with shame
I can say I care
But there's no one there
There's no truth in my lies
There's no light in my eyes
And it's all I guess
That I'll ever miss"

Take away Say You Will and the album is consistent. It doesn't mean it's a bad song, but it totally disrupts the "feel" of the album.

I think that You And I Pt. I would have been an awesome addition as well... there's something about it I like a lot better than the Pt II that actually got on the album.

I said it's upbeat sounding; I wasn't referring to the lyrics.

The song SYW is consistent with Stevie's promise always to leave a bit of hope in the message. One song out of 18 giving a glimmer of hope doesn't destroy the consistency, not when the song refers to a place she remembers as being dark.

- Jake

The majority here is with you on this, but I never loved Pt. I too much.

I do like Pt. II, but it has the sound of the Love Boat Acapulco Lounge and there's something that makes me picture Martin Short's Ed Grimley dancing to it.

- Jake

Imperial Hotel is very upbeat, but it's a downer of a song.

It's just my opinion, but the song is out of place, especially when it's on an album with the likes of Come, Illume, Murrow, Goodbye Baby, RTTG, Silver Girl, and the rest of the crew. It sticks out like a sore thumb and those munchkins at the end really push it over the top.

I love the sound of the kids at the end; it's like she's harking back to an innocent time when she & Lindsey were still young and dreaming together. But I know most folks here hate it.

Imperial Hotel is not a downer to me. "She knows in her heart that he will stand by her..." To me it's a better version of That Made Me Stronger. She's being a drama queen, and he's talking her down from the Ledge, like hey, things are not bad really. Get over it. The lyric "This is the path you have chosen" is far better than "You write your songs yourself." Plus the vocal kicks ass.

- Jake

Actually, I'd say:

"Got No Home" instead of "Stand On The Rock"
"Intuition" instead of "The Second Time"

"Victim Of Love" as a bonus track on the "Got No Home" CD single. ;)

We don't know if SYW is about Lindsey, pal. ;)

Imperial Hotel is a major downer, IMO. For cripes sake, the name of the song is Imperial Hotel. I always thought she was talking about how much she loves her career, but also how she hates it equally as much for what it can't afford her or allow her to have.

Come on, it's about all of the, otherwise why choose it as the title song.

I took IH to mean the woman what wants to be queen (Imperial) not just professionally but personally too), who's afraid to leave because she's still but a guest, who's struggling that rulers make bad lovers - - - but the guy is reminding her that she can always check out, and that whether she does or not, he'll stand by her. Not a downer IMO.

- Jake

I always interpreted it as her saying her career has an imperial rule over everything and no matter how much she wants something, her career ends up making the decisions in the end, no matter how right or wrong that decision is. She's not the Imperial Queen, her career is. She can't leave because the hold it has on her is too strong, no matter how much some guy wants her all to himself.

I can see that, though it's not my favorite take on the song, but still, the guy at the end is standing by her, and her big complaint had been that she was alone. So it's still not a downer.

- Jake

After the Glitter Fades is one of Stevie's best songs ever and should not be removed from BD. And Think About It is a fine song.

ANd I love Insider, but if you removed SDMHA, Bella Donna may not have been a hit and ignited her solo career!

That's alright, I'm not fond of your take on it, either. ;)

She is alone because while some dude is telling her he'll stick by her and love her, she can't give those feelings back to him completely. The rule her career has over her is too strong for her to reciprocate those feelings. They've sat across from each other, battling that very issue out every time, and it always ends the same way: her true love is her career and her relationships suffer because of it.

Sorry, they're dull to these ears. Julia is a masterpiece that should've been on the album and Gold and Braid is one of my favorites.

Where do you see that in the lyrics?

- Jake

Sorry, I had a spasm. :lol: She was talking to her friend, not her lover. It doesn't help with that mangled booklet that comes the CD, ya know. But minus her talking to him across the freakin' glass table, my interpretation still stands.

I think Julia is overrated - not her best vocal. Gold And Braid is great, but nothing can beat the live version from the HBO concert. And nothing should replace TAI or ATGF. Why mess with a perfect album.

- Jake

I still don't see it. :shrug:
The song says, if I recall, that she knows in her heart that he will stand by her, that he can save her, and there's the line that she just went home - meaning she's not in the hotel any longer.

- Jake

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It's not a perfect album to me. ;) Those two songs drag it down, IMO.

Have you heard the 3-1-81 version from the Blue Lamp reel? That version sends shivers up my spine, it's awe-inspiring. I think it's one of her best vocals, released or unreleased. :nod: When she sings "I am free from my slavery," I get goosepimples. :D

Yeah, she's saying he'll stand by her, but she's also saying that even if he does stand by her, he can't do much of anyhting to help her.

"So, you can get her
But you can't keep her
And you can't catch her fall
Well, she will call you
When she needs you
You know where she lives
The Imperial Hotel"

When she needs comfort, she'll call him, but otherwise, she's alone. He says not to cry because he can save her, but she knows that's not true. :wavey: