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EnchantedSLN 06-26-2004 02:22 AM

New Tour Date - Chumash Casino Grand Opening 7/18
 
Just recieved this info from a friend... has anyone heard anything about this? Fleetwood Mac playing a casino opening sounds ridiculous, but I checked out the links and it appears to be legit?!

http://www.chumashcasino.com/ (casino homepage)

http://www.chumashcasino.com/fleetwood.htm (Fleetwood Mac event page)

http://premier.ticketsplus.net/Ticke...T04&sc=FLEET04 (Star Tickets purchase page).

Front row tickets are $500. WTF?

tynan88 06-26-2004 06:49 AM

I would think that's a real shame, I mean no one has ever suggested the Mac don't like making money, but Damn, opening a Casino????

Tynan

golden braid 06-26-2004 09:24 AM

How low can FM go? :( Santa Ynez is not even a major city so I really don't know how many people would be willing to pay so much money for tickets especially when FM have just played Southern California. :confused:

John Run 06-26-2004 09:44 AM

I am sure Fleetwood Mac is getting a huge upfront GT to play this gig.

With that said, I think there is a little bit of missing the reality of the situation going on here.

How many times has Fleetwood Mac played the MGM is Las Vegas? It is a casino.

Casinos in Connecticut and Mississippi have had such major acts as Buffett, Aerosmith, Carole King, Shania, The Eagles all play them. The fact is in the US concert market Casino venues are becoming a player.

This seems a little different because it is part of an opening, making it a little more of a corporate gig, but on the other hand so was the MTV thing in New York this spring. Samething with some of Stevie;s corporate gigs for Microsoft and others...It is part of the business.

estranged4life 06-26-2004 10:38 AM

True...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Run
I am sure Fleetwood Mac is getting a huge upfront GT to play this gig.

With that said, I think there is a little bit of missing the reality of the situation going on here.

How many times has Fleetwood Mac played the MGM is Las Vegas? It is a casino.

Casinos in Connecticut and Mississippi have had such major acts as Buffett, Aerosmith, Carole King, Shania, The Eagles all play them. The fact is in the US concert market Casino venues are becoming a player.

This seems a little different because it is part of an opening, making it a little more of a corporate gig, but on the other hand so was the MTV thing in New York this spring. Samething with some of Stevie;s corporate gigs for Microsoft and others...It is part of the business.

about FM having played at Casino's before & this show being a corporate performance type of thing, But knowing how most Indian owned casino's (Especially those here in Oklahoma) do not generate large amounts of money I would find it shocking if the Chumash Tribe offered a large GT to FM...Maybe they made a deal where FM could take a large percentage of the gate for the show? (Most shows here at casino's have a ticket price under $30)

Usually the type of musical artists who play the Indian casino's around this area are either those who are up and coming (ie-Trace Adkins, Kelley Coffee) or those whose careers are a shadow of their former selves (ie-David Lee Roth) because they are more economical to book for performances/appearances than those considered as "major acts".

Brian j.

77Rumours77 06-26-2004 10:40 AM

From what it lookes like there are gonna be 2 shows!

EnchantedSLN 06-26-2004 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by golden braid
Santa Ynez is not even a major city so I really don't know how many people would be willing to pay so much money for tickets

That's what I thought too. But from what I understand the venue only holds 1,300 people.

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Originally Posted by John Run
With that said, I think there is a little bit of missing the reality of the situation going on here.

How many times has Fleetwood Mac played the MGM is Las Vegas? It is a casino.

True. But the MGM Grand is a big-name fancy joint in Las Vegas with a massive arena that is the size of a typical concert venue. I had never even heard of Santa Ynez (and I live in southern California), nor any hype about the opening of this place. I'm picturing a small obscure casino, which is why I found it hard to believe at first.

MacMan 06-26-2004 11:31 AM

Isn't that where Michael Jackson lives, or the area?? Name sounds like I've heard it before.

David 06-26-2004 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by EnchantedSLN
Front row tickets are $500. WTF?

Seems excessive, doesn't it?

Maybe that's the casino's way of keeping out the fanbase riffraff. The casino probably wants to reward its high rollers with front-row seats to a major concert, so maybe it's hoping that the extra-high ticket prices keep fans of the band away. A casino can easily fill a 1,200-seat theater with casino visitors on a weekend.

strandinthewind 06-26-2004 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by David
Seems excessive, doesn't it?

Maybe that's the casino's way of keeping out the fanbase riffraff. The casino probably wants to reward its high rollers with front-row seats to a major concert, so maybe it's hoping that the extra-high ticket prices keep fans of the band away. A casino can easily fill a 1,200-seat theater with casino visitors on a weekend.

Casinos usually comp most of the great tickets for their high rollers.

OR has to pay off a debt :laugh: :shrug:

dontlookdown 06-26-2004 12:05 PM

ewww! A Casino opening?

Is Fleetwood Mac going the way of George W. Bush?!

They should know better than that - supporting a casino -

yucky.

strandinthewind 06-26-2004 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlookdown
ewww! A Casino opening?

Is Fleetwood Mac going the way of George W. Bush?!

They should know better than that - supporting a casino -

yucky.

and when they have played Vegas and Atlantic City for the last 25 years what do you think they are doing? MGM, Trump, the Alladin, or wherever does not give that money to charity - it goes to the casino :laugh:

BTW - what does George W. Bush have to do with casinos? Certainly people from all political backgrounds gamble :shrug:

WelshWitchPMD 06-26-2004 12:22 PM

OK I just bought myself a 95.00 ticket for the Saturday night show. They must be comp tickets because all of the first 4 price levels were sold out. I got the first row Y of the level 5 tickets.

Hey at least I am going. I don't know if I can go to the Sunday show yet because I don't know if I can get Monday off to fly home. I am also flat broke and need to start saving again. :rolleyes:

Hey I won't be bored just broke!

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnchantedSLN
Just recieved this info from a friend... has anyone heard anything about this? Fleetwood Mac playing a casino opening sounds ridiculous, but I checked out the links and it appears to be legit?!

http://www.chumashcasino.com/ (casino homepage)

http://www.chumashcasino.com/fleetwood.htm (Fleetwood Mac event page)

http://premier.ticketsplus.net/Ticke...T04&sc=FLEET04 (Star Tickets purchase page).

Front row tickets are $500. WTF?

Oh God. :rolleyes: Is it official now? Have they sold out?

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
and when they have played Vegas and Atlantic City for the last 25 years what do you think they are doing? MGM, Trump, the Alladin, or wherever does not give that money to charity - it goes to the casino :laugh:

BTW - what does George W. Bush have to do with casinos? Certainly people from all political backgrounds gamble :shrug:

Bill Bennett does for sure. :laugh:

strandinthewind 06-26-2004 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Bill Bennett does for sure. :laugh:

LOL - yep - no issue about it there!!!!! :laugh:

John Run 06-26-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life
about FM having played at Casino's before & this show being a corporate performance type of thing, But knowing how most Indian owned casino's (Especially those here in Oklahoma) do not generate large amounts of money I would find it shocking if the Chumash Tribe offered a large GT to FM...Maybe they made a deal where FM could take a large percentage of the gate for the show? (Most shows here at casino's have a ticket price under $30)
Brian j.


UHHHH, That makes no sense.....Why would Fleetwood Mac play two shows for less than 3000 people combined for a large piece of the gate???

They got a big up front. It amounts to a corporate gig.

I think it is kind of cheesy too, believe me. But Rock 'n' Roll and big money go hand and hand. It is part of the deal these days and really for the past 20 years.

GardenStateGirlie 06-26-2004 03:07 PM

This? Is SUPER strange. Fleetwood Mac...wtf?

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Run
UHHHH, That makes no sense.....Why would Fleetwood Mac play two shows for less than 3000 people combined for a large piece of the gate???

They got a big up front. It amounts to a corporate gig.

I think it is kind of cheesy too, believe me. But Rock 'n' Roll and big money go hand and hand. It is part of the deal these days and really for the past 20 years.

I guess it's a good thing What's The World Coming To has been dropped from the set list as it's meaning would be totally lost on this audience. :laugh:

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
This? Is SUPER strange. Fleetwood Mac...wtf?

IMO they are definitely damaging their superstar cred with this crap. :o

GardenStateGirlie 06-26-2004 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
IMO they are definitely damaging their superstar cred with this crap. :o

I just think it's LAME. So they're going to go all the way out to Iowa with the crew and then go alll the way back to CA and then they're going to what, head to NJ to do the Camden show? :shrug:

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 03:36 PM

I hope somewhere in their hearts they don't feel that this tour is really "it" for them. :distress:

Johnny Stew 06-26-2004 03:39 PM

Maybe The Mac is friends with one of the Chumash Casino's investors, so they're doing this as a favor? :shrug:

GardenStateGirlie 06-26-2004 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Maybe The Mac is friends with one of the Chumash Casino's investors, so they're doing this as a favor? :shrug:

Let's hope so. Seriously. This rates pretty high up in lamest thing Fleetwood Mac could ever do.

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Maybe The Mac is friends with one of the Chumash Casino's investors, so they're doing this as a favor? :shrug:


Did he make them an offer they couldn't refuse? :laugh:

estranged4life 06-26-2004 03:50 PM

That's why I asked...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Run
UHHHH, That makes no sense.....Why would Fleetwood Mac play two shows for less than 3000 people combined for a large piece of the gate???

They got a big up front. It amounts to a corporate gig.

because it seems puzzling otherwise unless they did receive a large GT (Unless like Johnny Stew said "They're doing this as a favor to an investor)...But knowing how Indian casinos here do their business a large GT would seem rather odd.

And I agree it is a corporate gig...Next thing ya they'll probably end up adding several shows at Casino's in Vegas & Mississippi. Guess M$ck needs more money for golf :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

GardenStateGirlie 06-26-2004 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life
color=green]M$ck[/color][/B] needs more money for golf :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Guess the wine isn't selling that well ;)

estranged4life 06-26-2004 04:01 PM

Or...
 
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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
Guess the wine isn't selling that well ;)

his twin infants needed Diamond encrusted Pampers & Solid Gold teething rings :laugh:

skcin 06-26-2004 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Oh God. :rolleyes: Is it official now? Have they sold out?

I just checked & it is on Fleetwoodmac.com. They're doing a fanclub presale for it too :rolleyes:

Says they've "secured 50 tickets per show" for the presale - out of 1200 :confused:

Paula

estranged4life 06-26-2004 04:19 PM

Pffftttt....
 
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Originally Posted by skcin
I just checked & it is on Fleetwoodmac.com. They're doing a fanclub presale for it too :rolleyes:

Says they've "secured 50 tickets per show" for the presale - out of 1200 :confused:

Paula

kinda wondered when fm.com would be jumpin' in :rolleyes:

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin
I just checked & it is on Fleetwoodmac.com. They're doing a fanclub presale for it too :rolleyes:

Says they've "secured 50 tickets per show" for the presale - out of 1200 :confused:

Paula

By "sold out", I didn't mean ticket-wise. :eek:

77Rumours77 06-26-2004 05:15 PM

Whats next...?
 
I guess Fm is jumping on the Classic Rock bandwagon. Aerosmith, REO, Boston, Lynard Skynard are all doing casino shows. Whats next..
Vh1 Presents...............
FLeetwood Mac Live at Barns & Nobels Book Store in Gainsville, FL
Fleetwood Mac Live at McDonleds in South Wicihita, KS
Fleetwood Mac Live at the Amiristar Casino, Kansas City, MO
Tickets are limited avalible. Limit of 2 tickets Top Price $10,000.
;) :rolleyes: ;) :D :rolleyes: :laugh:

gldstwmn 06-26-2004 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
I guess Fm is jumping on the Classic Rock bandwagon. Aerosmith, REO, Boston, Lynard Skynard are all doing casino shows. Whats next..
Vh1 Presents...............
FLeetwood Mac Live at Barns & Nobels Book Store in Gainsville, FL
Fleetwood Mac Live at McDonleds in South Wicihita, KS
Fleetwood Mac Live at the Amiristar Casino, Kansas City, MO
Tickets are limited avalible. Limit of 2 tickets Top Price $10,000.
;) :rolleyes: ;) :D :rolleyes: :laugh:

Good Christ! They're turning into Sheryl Crow. :p

tynan88 06-27-2004 01:09 AM

I guess it's a bit dissapointing but personally I would put it in the same category as the corporate gig they did before they started the second leg (can't remember what it was called), who knows, maybe they will just keep adding dates because they are having too much fun and don't want it all to end :rolleyes:

Tynan

skcin 06-27-2004 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
By "sold out", I didn't mean ticket-wise. :eek:


Yeah, I got it, not to worry :D

Paula

gldstwmn 06-27-2004 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin
Yeah, I got it, not to worry :D

Paula

Okay. :lol: ;)

enibs78 06-27-2004 11:07 PM

Somewhat interesting story on Chumash Casino.

http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/sto...19022151.shtml

estranged4life 06-27-2004 11:41 PM

Thanks for...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by enibs78
Somewhat interesting story on Chumash Casino.

http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/sto...19022151.shtml

the link to that article on the background of the Chumash casino. It sounds as if the Indian casinos located in Ca-Li-For-Ni-A have encountered (And are causing) similar problems as those here in Oklahoma have.

ryan8472 06-28-2004 07:46 AM

Hey, maybe I can hope for a Mohegan Sun date in August, now? :lol: Not that I'd go, but still, another CT date would make me feel like us CT Ledgies were being spoiled :laugh: .

WelshWitchPMD 06-28-2004 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan8472
Hey, maybe I can hope for a Mohegan Sun date in August, now? :lol: Not that I'd go, but still, another CT date would make me feel like us CT Ledgies were being spoiled :laugh: .


:( Well they can't stop touring until they play here in RI. I mean I have gone all over to see them the least that they could do for me is come here! :laugh: Even Heart is coming to Providence but it's on September 12 the same day that the Mac rescheduled Camden.


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