No Extras On the DVDs
 

I got an email from Lisa at HD Ready today and she said that:

"The bonus material is extra footage which includes:
Dreams
What's The World Coming To
World Turning
And the full version of Second Hand News"

which are cut from the PBS broadcast.

Kinda sucks, eh? :distress:

Well, first my show in Pittsburgh gets cancelled.
Then there's no juicy extras on the DVD.


Can we rewind and start this week over?!? :shocked:

I've learned not to get my hopes up for extras from this band. It is amazing that most other artists can give "something" and this band doesn't seem to care about doing that. I figured when they said there were 3 extra songs they were going to be the ones cut from the broadcast. I guess that is considered an extra in FMLand.

I'm happy that all the PBS viewers won't be subjected to Mick's ridiculously long drum solo...more and more people are commenting at the shows that the solo is going on way too long.

No Extras On the DVDs
 

It's a bad week I know....

But just think about how this last year has been.... In 14 months we've received from Fleetwood Mac - not to mention all this touring... But

CD - Say You Will
2 CDs - Say You Will "Limited Edition"
CD - Fleetwood Mac Remastered
2 CD's - Rumours Remastered w/Bonus disc
2 CD's - Tusk Remastered w/Bonus disc
2 DVD's - Live In Boston - 2.5 hours
1 CD - Live In Boston CD

I think we've had a great year... In terms of releases - this past 14 months is unmatched.

I'm holding judgement on the dvd's until they are in hand.... Maybe there will be some surprises on the discs... ya never know.

let's pretend...
 

that it's 1996. at this point in time, despite rumours, there really is no FM. the "new" version petered out. stevie's last album was a disappointment, no word on christine, and lindsey's solo album is shelved.


we should all feel lucky now, huh?

I do feel lucky...BUT I also feel disappointed.

Perfectly put. Kudos. :nod:

I'm glad that we're getting this stuff, but most of the time it just seems like the band just wants to release crap without any effort or consideration for the quality of the product or its consumers. It drives me bonkers. I tell ya, if I was famous and had the opportunity to release a live DVD, I'd use up all the space available...even if that meant reading the phone book for an hour and a half.

And why in the hell is the concert split over two DVDs if there are no extras?! Ugh. Doesn't that bother anyone else? I have Gone With the Wind on DVD and it annoys the hell outta me when I have get up in the middle of the movie and flip it over to the other side. :lol:

Yes! I was just thinking about this very thing earlier this morning. I am lucky I got to see them twice last year, and I'm lucky we got all the goodies we did get. But it is disappointing nonetheless. Just hoping Miss Stevie gets well and stays well!

Trying to keep my chin up! :)

believe me...compared to some of my other favorite bands.....FM is giving us alot

I'm not complaining, I never thought this band would get past the "Time" era :laugh:

Well I hope there's extras on the Destiny Rules Documentary DVD otherwise I'm going to be pissed that I spent the extra money for it. I could just watch my taped video from VH1. However, I won't be too surprised if there's no extras. :distress:

Yeah, where is the hidden extra's of Lindsey and Stevie slapping each other around? :laugh:

and compared to other artists and bands this band gives very little in the way of extras, even when they're charging you for the extras. I guess it's never the way the fan wants it or is enough to make them happy. Let's hope they're not making the decision about whether to release the Mirage or Tusk DVD based on their genius decision to release the TITN DVD first.

I didn't expect any extras from the concert DVD, but to even sell the documentary on DVD without extras is ridiculous. I of course bought it, but I'm sure I will regret it. I too could just watch my tape from VH1

Chris

OMG you are so right! Boston hasen't given the fans ****! 6 albums in the past 27 years or so! Well and 7 tours, but no videos/live CDs/DVDs/TV specials/VH1 Behind the Music. BOSTON GET WITH IT, YOUR NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER!

Fleetwood should do a reality show for vh1 or something, I bet it would be like nothing else in reality tv world.

I was just SURE the DVD would have extras, and that in 2004 (when a three-hour movie is placed on one side of one DVD with extras, soundtrack options, commentaries, etc.) a two-disc set would be brimming with the good stuff.

I was wrong.

Phil Collins' Serious Hits Live concert was released last year on two discs with no extras. But it did have a few audio options, which can eat up bits on a disc. Do we even know if we're getting 5.1 audio?

I know for a fact the discs aren't enhanced for widescreen televisions (anamorphic, like most movie releases). Both are, however, letterboxed, because they were shot on high-definition video. But because of how they were mastered onto DVD, there will be no advantage to those who have hi-def sets.

This isn't all that uncommon... I can only think of a handful of examples of "classic" artists that have the "output" Fleetwood Mac does. Think about it in terms of the Rolling Stones... how long into the band's run did it take for something like "Four Flicks" to come out? How long did Beatles fans wait for "Anthology"? How long did Led Zeppelin fans wait for "DVD"?

We know there's tons of archival stuff out there... and they're not just going to "give" it to us. But the flood of material over the last few years proves to me that FM wants its fans to have this stuff... just not all at once.

Think about what has been released over the years from the Buckingham/Nicks line-up alone:
-- All the standard albums
-- The audiophile versions of LPs
-- DVD-A of Rumours
-- Re-issues of White Album, Tusk and Rumours
-- All the solo projects
-- Concerts: Tusk Doc, Mirage Tour, Tango Tour, The Dance, Live in Boston
-- Solo concerts/video releases: three from Stevie, even a video release (though hard to find) from Christine in the mid-80s
-- Destiny Rules DVD/doc on VH1
-- Making of Rumours documentary

Stuff we already know is coming:
-- DVD-A of Tusk
-- DVD-A of TISL
-- Lindsey's Soundstage on DVD

Stuff likely to come:
-- BN on CD
-- Mirage and Tango remasters/bonus discs

Stuff we know is out there but is uncollected:
-- Rosebud documentary
-- Numerous one-off videos for singles
-- Coming Home special from Disney
-- Behind the Music
-- VH1 all access
-- Too much stuff to name

Yes, it's costly... but they're not gonna GIVE us this stuff. Myself, I'm happy that Fleetwood Mac is one of the most documented bands in the history of rock music, and that so much of their stuff is readily available, and that they show NO SIGNS of stopping the output, both of old material and NEW material (they all talk about doing another album).

I'm thrilled! :thumbsup:

~Jamie

They cut Dreams, Fleetwood Mac's biggest hit from the broadcast? They cut SHN, although it was the one they picked to show at New Year's?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they cut that dud Dreams. The decision surprises me nonetheless. Perhaps they are catching a clue about how dead it is live?

I never really thought or cared if there were extras on the concert DVD. I mean they're giving us the full concert what else could they give us. But I'll be pissed if Destiny Rules doesn't have any extra footage.

You'd be surprised. Check out most of the concert DVDs released in the past two years, they're brimming with extras.

wha kind of extras? And like I said I'm dissapointed but not all that mad, and like I said if Destiny Rules doesn't have extras i will be PISSED.

Music videos, alternate camera angles, photo galleries, behind-the-scenes footage, editing featurettes, discographies, introductions, classic performances, band commentary, documentaries, bonus songs; LOTS of stuff. I just wish that we could have a few of those things, ya know?

I just don't think this band is into the technology, or at least just yet, they are from the old school, I mean the really really really old school :laugh:

Yep...
 

I cannot figure out why a show is split over 2 discs, I have "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly" on DVD (Newly released version) and the complete 2 hour 59 minute movie is all on 1 single DVD disc.

Especially frustrating is the fact there are no bonuses on the DVD (Guess I'll eat my words now...) unlike 99.9% of all the other newly released music DVD's I have purchased within the past year (ie-Anthrax's "Music Of Mass Destruction", Queen's "Live At Wembley Stadium", Steve Vai's "Live At The Astoria London" & The Rolling Stones' "Four Flicks")...

Man, Guess I am glad I purchased "Live In Boston" for only $23.00 or I would be even more disappointed!

Brian j.

The band members don't have to be into the technology. The people who decide these things at the record company know what is being offered as extras on other artists releases. It also seems from interviews from some of the band members that they're well aware of what is going on in the industry and what is being offered to fans of older and younger artists. I'd be shocked if Stevie and Mick didn't know.

I understand Jamie's point and we have gotten a lot in the past few years but it's always another way to package the same old thing. Instead of releasing the VBOFM as a remastered cd with bonuses like The Eagles did with their VBO, FM decided to milk it one more time and give us the same tracks over and over again with poor quality sound and the only extras were the bonus clips to wet our appetite for SYW. Can it really be surprising that the remasters so sold poorly when a good casual fan who has most of their cds or the GH then bought the VBO double cd.... finally said no to buying the same songs once again.

Does anyone remember when the Dance came out and we actually got the Best Buy cd package for free. Free new songs, free new interviews, nice packaging. Someone must have been asleep when that decision was made.

things happen
 

I know people are disappointed about shows being cancelled and not rescheduled. I know you all made plans, tickets, hotels, spent money, etc.. and it is a let down. But if they are being cancelled due to an illness, there is nothing you can do to change it. Im sure the band feels badly about there schedule being changed as well. Some dates can be saved, others cant due to scheduling and timing. And before anyone asks, yes, i have experienced having a concert cancelled on me. So its not like I dont know the disappointment you are feeling. But keep in mind that if Stevie is ill, that is the real issue here, Dont we all want her to get well and be well and stay well? Tickets can be refunded, reservations can be cancelled, air fare well, thats a chance we all take, when we travel. and its also a risk we take when flying somewhere just to see a concert. Things happen, as we all know. This isnt the bands fault, this is due to an illness. Lets all say a little prayer that Stevie will feel better, but not just because you want to see her perform for you, lets pray that she feels better for her health and for everyday thereafter.

I just ordered it (which is really stupid since it will cost 25 dollars less in stores, but I really wanted the Destiny Rules Doc., which is really stupid because I recorded it onto dvd already. SO basically I am buying it because of the packaging! :]

They say they ship it out June 8, so do you think we will get it before the general public can buy it at the store? I am going to be mad if it takes a long time to receive it!

Not to post someone up, but I recall a certain Ledge member saying "Oh there WILL be extras on these DVDs." so much for that bull*****. I would like to see the band taking stage and maybe some cameras after the set backstage. I don't see that happening from Fleetwood Mac. What I would rather see is a DVD with "Red Rover", "Sara" and "I Know I'm Not Wrong" from the current tour leg.

Haha, yes I hate that, the flip over dvd happens to old long movies. "I'll never go hungry again!", well I wish I wouldn't have to get up from my couch again, heh. It also happens on my Ben-Hur dvd, luckly my Ten Commandments dvd is a 2 dvd set, so I just switch it in my 5 disc changer, damn I am lazy, haha.

Does anyone know since this IS going to be a 2 dvd set, with NO extras. Is there going to be a DTS track on it? I think I read somewhere that it wasn't even going to be 5.1? Does anyone know for sure. If it isn't in 5.1 then this is going to be a very plain dvd, even The Dance was in 5.1, and I assume with all the space on the 2 dvds they would be able to fit in a DTS track, right? A DTS track would sound AWESOME.

If you like Anthrax, you should rent "Calendar Girls" with Helen Mirren and Julie Walters. Anthrax makes a special appearance and the movie is unbelievably hysterical. :laugh:

I'm not asking them to GIVE it to me. If I pay $45 for the Boston DVD/Destiny Rules package, I want to get some extras. Like others have said, I taped the DR special, and if the DVD is just what was broadcast, do I need to buy it?? No. But I probably will, because I'm obsessed.

Ummm.... that was me. I already posted in this thread and admitted I was wrong. And I am disappointed. But as I said in my post, I'm also happy to have SO MUCH stuff from my favorite band in the last few years, when I thought I'd never hear from them again.

By the way, I did ask HDReady about the specs of the disc. It is at least widescreen, as it was shot (but not enhanced for widescreen TVs) and it IS going to be Dolby Digital 5.1. I didn't ask who did the mix...

~Jamie

Carolina, I'll give you that. It is expensive. When special edition DVDs of movies packed with extras can be had for less than $10, my $51.90 should have bought more than it did (a documentary, a 3-hour concert, a live CD from the concert). I agree the argument can be made that it's not a lot of bang for your buck, but then, I AM getting exactly what I want... a document of this terrific tour and the making of a great album.

My major point here is that I'm happy to have anything at all from this line-up of the band. I went through half of high school and all of my college years basically without hearing from the band I grew up with (Stevie, Lindsey, Chris, John, Mick) and really believing that "The Dance" was a last hurrah. To have such a wealth of material (even though it takes some "wealth" to buy it) is wonderful.

June 15 can't come soon enough!

~Jamie

You're right. I'll try to be satisfied with what I'm getting.

Strange, but Amazon only shows one listing now. It's $28 and I can't tell if it's the one with the 2 dvds or the dvds and cd set. Anyone know?

Are any other sites selling both versions?

The Nicksfix is now only linking to the special version with the DR documentary and doesn't show the Amazon version at all.

Edited: CD Universe is selling the 3 disc set for $23.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinf...cart=191387858