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darklinensuit 05-29-2004 11:57 PM

At This Point, What Song Should The Shows Close With? (*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*)
 
IMO Don't Stop should be one of the songs to be dropped. I didn't hate it on the earlier legs, but there are better songs to use. IMO Stevie & Lindsey should stick to their own songs rather than Christine's at this point. I'd love for them to close with Frozen Love, Seven Wonders, Crystal, or SOTM.

What do you think would fit as the last song on this leg?

- Jake

DownOnRodeo 05-30-2004 12:07 AM

I think that keeping Don't Stop in there is a smart move, and not just because it gets everyone clapping and dancing to the shuffle with big smiles on their faces... But because so much of the audience became fans from Christine's songs, I think that they owe it to the fans to at least play one.
Seven Wonders, I wish! They did a great job with it on the TITN tour.
Frozen Love and Crystal would be great... for us crazy fans.

diamondsnake 05-30-2004 12:12 AM

Well the shows don't close with Don't Stop, they close with Goodbye Baby. I think Storms would be a good replacement for Goodbye Baby though.

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo
I think that keeping Don't Stop in there is a smart move, and not just because it gets everyone clapping and dancing to the shuffle with big smiles on their faces... But because so much of the audience became fans from Christine's songs, I think that they owe it to the fans to at least play one.
Seven Wonders, I wish! They did a great job with it on the TITN tour.
Frozen Love and Crystal would be great... for us crazy fans.

I'm all for honoring Chris, just with a different song and a different place in the set. JMO. But you're right, much of the crowd does enjoy the song.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
Well the shows don't close with Don't Stop, they close with Goodbye Baby. I think Storms would be a good replacement for Goodbye Baby though.

If I'm not mistaken, GB was dropped on this leg.

- Jake

earthdreamer 05-30-2004 12:17 AM

I thought they closed out their show with GYOW and GB, and I love Don't Stop, too bad Christine doesn't realize the legacy she should remain apart of, but anyhow it is a Fleetwood Mac song, not just a Christine McVie song.

Johnny Stew 05-30-2004 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by darklinensuit
If I'm not mistaken, GB was dropped on this leg.

I believe it was only dropped from the first couple of shows, and then returned.
In fact, I think it returned when "Destiny Rules" disappeared.

Personally, I like that Lindsey & Stevie are doing "Don't Stop." It's hard for me to imagine anyone else singing Christine's songs... although I know it's always been a part of Fleetwood Mac's history to continue performing songs by former members. But I think that, of all of Chris' tunes, "Don't Stop" is about the only one that someone else can get away with singing. And maybe it's because Lindsey was already singing the co-lead on it.
Same with "World Turning."

earthdreamer 05-30-2004 12:26 AM

Stevie wrote "World Turning" not Chris, she was just one of the lead in vocals. I never really cared about Christine's songs, at least not to the point I was disappointed with Fleetwood Mac, I saw Fleetwood Mac minus the line up of Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine, with only Mick and John the founding members, and I still felt the magic of those songs, I guess it just all comes down to the roots of a band, and the passion of the music.

GypsySorcerer 05-30-2004 12:35 AM

I always think "Don't Stop" will be lame going into a concert, and granted there are many other songs I'd like to hear, but I admit that "Don't Stop" is fun once it gets started. It's a great sing-a-long song.

Let's see...I would love to see them end with "Crystal" or "Storms." I like GB well enough, though.

MacMan 05-30-2004 01:00 AM

At This Point, What Song Should The Shows Close With? (*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*)
 
I like the fact that Don't Stop is played minus Christine... they do a fine job of it. And I think the tempo of ending on a sombre note with Goodbye Baby is good too... I'd like to see them shuffle GB into the set where Landslide is and end the show with Landslide... They could still do the dedication to the audience or whom ever... and still do the little hug and stand there and take the applause... Then Mick and John could come walking out... stand beside the two of them... Take their bows and Mick could say his speach... I think that would be pretty great.

Johnny Stew 05-30-2004 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by earthdreamer
Stevie wrote "World Turning" not Chris, she was just one of the lead in vocals.

Actually, no... Christine & Lindsey co-wrote "World Turning."
It started out as a jam inspired by Peter Green's song "The World Keep On Turning." :)

earthdreamer 05-30-2004 02:00 AM

Okay. Maybe so. But I still don't care if Christine's is singing it or not. Lindsey and Stevie rocks it just fine imho! :p

ryan8472 05-30-2004 06:25 AM

Crystal. I'd die if they played that song. I must admit, even though we have a pretty much set-in-stone setlist, Fleetwood Mac has done a great job of playing (some of) the songs that the die-hards really wanted to hear ~ Eyes Of The World, Beautiful Child, Sara, I Know I'm Not Wrong, Don't Let Me Down Again, plus the SYW songs like Destiny Rules, Red Rover, etc... Having said that, I wouldn't count out anything from now on with the Mac :nod: . So I still have hope for Crystal!

dissention 05-30-2004 07:50 AM

Crystal. They should alternate between each other when singing the verses, then sing the chorus together in harmony. I'd have heart palpitations.

goldie 05-30-2004 07:56 AM

I'd like them to bring back Station Man ... but that probably wouldn't work as a closer.

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by earthdreamer
I thought they closed out their show with GYOW and GB, and I love Don't Stop, too bad Christine doesn't realize the legacy she should remain apart of, but anyhow it is a Fleetwood Mac song, not just a Christine McVie song.

Agreed, but IMO so are a lot of other songs they might do. I still say if they need to change a song, it's DS (though I know others would prefer Dreams or Rhiannon).

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
I believe it was only dropped from the first couple of shows, and then returned.
In fact, I think it returned when "Destiny Rules" disappeared.

Personally, I like that Lindsey & Stevie are doing "Don't Stop." It's hard for me to imagine anyone else singing Christine's songs... although I know it's always been a part of Fleetwood Mac's history to continue performing songs by former members. But I think that, of all of Chris' tunes, "Don't Stop" is about the only one that someone else can get away with singing. And maybe it's because Lindsey was already singing the co-lead on it.
Same with "World Turning."

Thanks for the update. I haven't read the reviews/setlists since early in this leg.
I think there are other Chris songs that would work, and whether changed or not, I'd sooner see a Chris song not used at the end. JMO.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by earthdreamer
I never really cared about Christine's songs, at least not to the point I was disappointed with Fleetwood Mac, I saw Fleetwood Mac minus the line up of Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine, with only Mick and John the founding members, and I still felt the magic of those songs, I guess it just all comes down to the roots of a band, and the passion of the music.

I care very much for Christine's songs, but to each his own.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer
I always think "Don't Stop" will be lame going into a concert, and granted there are many other songs I'd like to hear, but I admit that "Don't Stop" is fun once it gets started. It's a great sing-a-long song.

Let's see...I would love to see them end with "Crystal" or "Storms." I like GB well enough, though.

I think Storms would be amazing, but not at the end. It's just too heavy. Stevie has said that she does not like to leave the audience on a sad note, but the lyric "Not all the prayers in the world could save us" might do just that.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MacMan
I like the fact that Don't Stop is played minus Christine... they do a fine job of it. And I think the tempo of ending on a sombre note with Goodbye Baby is good too... I'd like to see them shuffle GB into the set where Landslide is and end the show with Landslide... They could still do the dedication to the audience or whom ever... and still do the little hug and stand there and take the applause... Then Mick and John could come walking out... stand beside the two of them... Take their bows and Mick could say his speach... I think that would be pretty great.

I thought about Landslide as the closer. As great as it would fit there in a lot of ways, for the last song I think all the members should be performing.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Actually, no... Christine & Lindsey co-wrote "World Turning."
It started out as a jam inspired by Peter Green's song "The World Keep On Turning." :)

And I remember reading that Stevie was super p!ssed that Lindsey would write a song with Chris but not with her.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
Crystal. I'd die if they played that song. I must admit, even though we have a pretty much set-in-stone setlist, Fleetwood Mac has done a great job of playing (some of) the songs that the die-hards really wanted to hear ~ Eyes Of The World, Beautiful Child, Sara, I Know I'm Not Wrong, Don't Let Me Down Again, plus the SYW songs like Destiny Rules, Red Rover, etc... Having said that, I wouldn't count out anything from now on with the Mac :nod: . So I still have hope for Crystal!

If you mean that their performances of these songs have been good, I agree (for the ones I've seen).
If you mean they've done a great job including die-hards' picks, I say not really.
But I'm with you on bringing Crystal into the set.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Crystal. They should alternate between each other when singing the verses, then sing the chorus together in harmony. I'd have heart palpitations.

Just as I see it.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by goldie
I'd like them to bring back Station Man ... but that probably wouldn't work as a closer.

I agree, not as a closer, but I'd love to hear SM, Hypnotized, and Oh Well.

I love the 1975 live versions of Station Man and Hypnotized and LIndsey's Oh Well on the Live album.

- Jake

Mari 05-30-2004 09:49 AM

I don't think Crystal would be great as a live-song. LB doesn't sing that .. what's the word? with attention, with details? .. live. I love Crystal on the white album, because he sings it sooo softly. He never sings like that live.

I'd love it if they did another BN song! Lola is my favorite, but not as a closer. More pre-1975 Macsongs would be great too!

rezamatic 05-30-2004 10:07 AM

Closer
 
I was thinking that if they let Lindsey take the closing song, that he could do an acoustic version of "Steal Your Heart Away". But he should do it in the style of "Soul Drifter" when he toured solo - just himself, a shortened, slow version of it. It's quite sad-sounding like "GB" is now, but also a little more uplifiting. I always thought that would make a great closer.

GypsySorcerer 05-30-2004 10:33 AM

"Stephanie" would be a nice closer, too.... I love this song. Of course, they already play the recording of "Albatross" as people are leaving. I still maintain that they should use "Songbird" instead.

face of glass 05-30-2004 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mari
I don't think Crystal would be great as a live-song. LB doesn't sing that .. what's the word? with attention, with details? .. live. I love Crystal on the white album, because he sings it sooo softly. He never sings like that live.

Surely he can't give in to "the group’s collective femaleness" on stage (except for the whole SN interaction). ;)

ShangriLaTroubl 05-30-2004 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Crystal. They should alternate between each other when singing the verses, then sing the chorus together in harmony. I'd have heart palpitations.


I completely agree, this would be a perfect closer of the show..I've been dreaming of exactly what you described since before the tour began in 2003

Chris

David 05-30-2004 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by earthdreamer
Okay. Maybe so. But I still don't care if Christine's is singing it or not. Lindsey and Stevie rocks it just fine imho! :p

Johnny Stew was just joshin' ya, earthdreamer. World Turning was written by Stevie & Lindsey.

David 05-30-2004 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by darklinensuit
Agreed, but IMO so are a lot of other songs they might do. I still say if they need to change a song, it's DS (though I know others would prefer Dreams or Rhiannon).

I don't know which song DS is, but I'd personally love to hear the group end the concerts with a steel-pedal-style hootenanny like Sweet Betsy from Pike, which is just about my favorite song of all time. Can you imagine what Stevie's & Lindsey's golden voices could do with a great tune like that?! I get shudders just thinking about it.

diamondsnake 05-30-2004 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by face of glass
Surely he can't give in to "the group’s collective femaleness" on stage (except for the whole SN interaction). ;)

What is this supposed to mean?

Nixxxed 05-30-2004 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Johnny Stew was just joshin' ya, earthdreamer. World Turning was written by Stevie & Lindsey.

Was this supposed to be a joke? *Confused* I too have heard the story about how Stevie was p!ssed when she found out that Lindsey and Christine wrote "World Turning" together.

http://fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/lyri...rldturning.htm

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari
I don't think Crystal would be great as a live-song. LB doesn't sing that .. what's the word? with attention, with details? .. live. I love Crystal on the white album, because he sings it sooo softly. He never sings like that live.

I'd love it if they did another BN song! Lola is my favorite, but not as a closer. More pre-1975 Macsongs would be great too!

He sings pretty softly on the first half of live Go Insane, doesn't he?

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rezamatic
I was thinking that if they let Lindsey take the closing song, that he could do an acoustic version of "Steal Your Heart Away". But he should do it in the style of "Soul Drifter" when he toured solo - just himself, a shortened, slow version of it. It's quite sad-sounding like "GB" is now, but also a little more uplifiting. I always thought that would make a great closer.


But the harmonies are the best part of SYHA!

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer
"Stephanie" would be a nice closer, too.... I love this song. Of course, they already play the recording of "Albatross" as people are leaving. I still maintain that they should use "Songbird" instead.

I think Songbird as a two part harmony would be good, provided Lindsey and Stevie could hit all the notes as we know them. If it worked, it would be much better than Don't Stop.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by face of glass
Surely he can't give in to "the group’s collective femaleness" on stage (except for the whole SN interaction). ;)

Out of curiosity, just what part of "the group's collective femaleness" does John represent? All I'm thinking is, Not if "she" were the last "lady" in the bar! :eek:

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David
I don't know which song DS is, but I'd personally love to hear the group end the concerts with a steel-pedal-style hootenanny like Sweet Betsy from Pike, which is just about my favorite song of all time. Can you imagine what Stevie's & Lindsey's golden voices could do with a great tune like that?! I get shudders just thinking about it.

DS is Don't Stop.

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
What is this supposed to mean?

Mick's cross-dressing, Lindsey's altered voice on the album version of Big Love, and John's secret applications of Nair. ;)

- Jake

darklinensuit 05-30-2004 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed
Was this supposed to be a joke? *Confused* I too have heard the story about how Stevie was p!ssed when she found out that Lindsey and Christine wrote "World Turning" together.

http://fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/lyri...rldturning.htm

Thank you. For a moment I thought I'd slipped into a parallel universe. :rolleyes:

- Jake


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