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Hawkeye 05-26-2004 10:13 PM

Landslide is the Video from the DVD
 
Landslide is going to be released to Vh1 as a video. The Landslide from the upcoming DVD. I personally think this is the dumbest possible decision they could POSSIBLY make. Landslide was avideo for The Dance too, and this is basically the exact same version. I would even take having Dreams released as a video over Landslide. At least the whole band is on that one.

strandinthewind 05-26-2004 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Landslide is going to be released to Vh1 as a video. The Landslide from the upcoming DVD. I personally think this is the dumbest possible decision they could POSSIBLY make. Landslide was avideo for The Dance too, and this is basically the exact same version. I would even take having Dreams released as a video over Landslide. At least the whole band is on that one.

Leave it to FM to play it safe :rolleyes: I mean Say Goodbye would have the same nostalgic sense and is at least a new song. I mean they released it in The Dance video as well. I also think SHN is a better choice. But, they never asked me!!!! :laugh:

Johnny Stew 05-26-2004 10:25 PM

"Landslide" is getting to be the latter-day Fleetwood Mac's "Albatross."
How many times was that sucker re-released? :laugh:

I can understand why they'd want to go with a classic track, but gosh, why choose "Landslide" again? Brilliant song that it is, VH1 already had 'The Dance' version in heavy rotation just a few years ago, and the Dixie Chicks' rendition just over a year ago.

Personally, I think they should have gone with something upbeat, like "Second Hand News."
"Dreams" would have been a good choice too.

Hawkeye 05-26-2004 10:33 PM

I really don't think Dreams would be a good choice. In my post above I said it would've been much better then Landslide but that's it. Gold Dust woman's a little on the long side, but that would've really been a great choice considering it's being left off the CD. I'd say Silver Springs but that was also alredy a video live a few years ago. I'd also say Tusk would be a great choice. next to So Afraid and Come It shows The band's craziness really the best this tour. And it's not nearly as long as those 2. And really watching the song live on TV would almost be like a real music vdeo. Hell Lindsy stops playing his guitar and engage in a boxing match with Stevie. If that's not music video material I don't know what is.

Johnny Stew 05-26-2004 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I really don't think Dreams would be a good choice. In my post above I said it would've been much better then Landslide but that's it.

"Dreams" might not be the best choice... but I was thinking in terms of recognition factor. Which I'm sure is one of the biggest factors for choosing "Landslide." It's a great song, and they already know that people love it... so they're hoping that will equal sales for the product.

But definitely something like "Second Hand News," "Tusk," or, heck, even "Stand Back," would have been better choices, given the energy of the songs.

GardenStateGirlie 05-26-2004 11:00 PM

They sure know how to play it safe. Jeeze...out of all the songs, you have to pick the one that is totally overplayed from The Dance now, seven years later, on the radio and that was also made famous again by the Dixie Chicks. I love the song soo much but I'm all Landslided out.

MacMan 05-26-2004 11:00 PM

Landslide is the Video from the DVD
 
I would have thought Stand Back was the vid choice seeing that vh1 had it up on their site to view...

darklinensuit 05-26-2004 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MacMan
I would have thought Stand Back was the vid choice seeing that vh1 had it up on their site to view...

I'd go with Stand Back, SHN, or even Go Your Own Way as smart and safe choices. Less safe but great would be Beautiful Child or Eyes Of The World. :thumbsup:

- Jake

golden braid 05-26-2004 11:54 PM

I love Landslide but I'm tired of it. I would think everyone else would be also especially since the Dixie Chicks were everywhere with it a couple of years ago. They already released Landslide as a single from the dance so I don't know why they couldn't have done something like Beautiful Child. That was amazing kind of like Silver Springs was during the Dance. Oh well. :(

DownOnRodeo 05-27-2004 01:48 AM

I agree with Jake on EOTW.

For the likes of MTV, go with the rousing songs that jump up and grab you with their energy, not put you to to sleep with their 'oldies' sentimentality.

sparky 05-27-2004 02:34 AM

Idiots. Put another nail in the "oldies act" coffin. Thank you Warner Brothers records !

skcin 05-27-2004 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sparky
Idiots. Put another nail in the "oldies act" coffin. Thank you Warner Brothers records !


Wow, I honestly did NOT expect Landslide. I think BC would have been great.

Paula

shackin'up 05-27-2004 06:29 AM

The dumb thing is, what's regarded as safe, isn't safe at all. Drizzle is something you don't mention, but does not keep you from getting wet. :sorry:
It would have been a lot safer to go with SHN. It was never a single, but everybody recognizes it, and this version kicks ass.

But, of course, I would have been thrilled with EOTW, BC, SG or even better, WTWCT.

HejiraNYC 05-27-2004 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
The dumb thing is, what's regarded as safe, isn't safe at all. Drizzle is something you don't mention, but does not keep you from getting wet. :sorry:
It would have been a lot safer to go with SHN. It was never a single, but everybody recognizes it, and this version kicks ass.

But, of course, I would have been thrilled with EOTW, BC, SG or even better, WTWCT.

I too am appalled that "Landslide" was chosen as the lead video. If they are going to revive an old song, why not "Stand Back?" Even though "Stand Back" was a major hit, um 21 years ago, I think FM really breathes new life into it on this tour. The 80s are back in a major way, and nobody would suspect that a bunch of white folks pushing 60 could still pump out such a high-energy dance tune.

However, I have to disagree about releasing ANYTHING by Lindsey as a single. I know I will be evicerated for this, but Lindsey's vocals have been insufferably "pitchy" this entire tour. But then again, I suspect they must have spent the past six months correcting his pitch in production, so maybe his stuff is listenable after all. By contrast, Stevie has been the bedrock of consistency this tour; I think Lindsey could benefit from the services of Stevie's voice coach!

shackin'up 05-27-2004 08:37 AM

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I know I will be evicerated for this

I don't know what evicerated means, but I evicerate you.

The man puts so much emotion in these performances that I couldn't care less if there's some inperfectness in his voice. Hear him belt out Come. It's wonderful.

DownOnRodeo 05-27-2004 08:50 AM

I second the evisceration (disemboweling, I'm pretty sure). J/k. But yeah.. the bootlegs don't do Lindsey's vocals justice. But I do wonder if he'll lose his voice altogether one day. Don't know how he does it. Must have a method. I hope.

dissention 05-27-2004 09:25 AM

If they were smart, they would've gone for EOTW or Come. Even Stand Back would've been quite the rousing video. But why the hell did they pick Landslide?! Ugh. Talk about overplayed and tired. Why don't they want to release something that will make people take notice of them? Landslide ain't the one to do it.

Carolina Girl 05-27-2004 09:30 AM

Who makes these decisions???

I love Landslide. It's a great song. But not the one they should release as a video. Too bad they weren't doing IKINW when the DVD was being taped. That was great live!

John Run 05-27-2004 09:37 AM

Often the band has little do with these decisions. It is usually a record company decision.

shackin'up 05-27-2004 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by John Run
Often the band has little do with these decisions. It is usually a record company decision.

Fair enough, but that doesn't make it any less dumb.

CarneVaca 05-27-2004 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC
I know I will be evicerated for this, but Lindsey's vocals have been insufferably "pitchy" this entire tour.

What's this, American Idol!? :rolleyes: Besides, they probably cleaned up a lot of the vocals anyway.

Be that as it may, the idea of releasing a 30-year-old song when they just released an album a year ago is so flabergastingly stupid that it's not even worth debating.

dissention 05-27-2004 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
What's this, American Idol!? :rolleyes: Besides, they probably cleaned up a lot of the vocals anyway.

Just as they did for Stevie. :nod:

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and Stevie isn't exempt from contributing some horrific vocals to this tour. They've both had some cringe-worthy moments.

shackin'up 05-27-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Be that as it may, the idea of releasing a 30-year-old song when they just released an album a year ago is so flabergastingly stupid that it's not even worth debating.

at least the idea is as ugly as the coverdesign. consequence. strong point.

dissention 05-27-2004 11:06 AM

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at least the idea is as ugly as the coverdesign. consequence. strong point.

I take it you hate the cover art, Gerald.

:lol:

stefan 05-27-2004 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
What's this, American Idol!? :rolleyes: Besides, they probably cleaned up a lot of the vocals anyway.

Be that as it may, the idea of releasing a 30-year-old song when they just released an album a year ago is so flabergastingly stupid that it's not even worth debating.

Well after hearing the BN live bootlegs and comparing them or later FM things to the SYW bootlegs we heard I have to say- his voice isn`t that energetic and broad ranged nowadays and he often sounds off. I didn`t notice on the show I attended in Oberhausen where he did fine but the bootlegs make me shudder sometimes. Remember the Today show thing f.e. or the Here comes the sun desaster. He should pick the songs that fit his voice nowadays and get rid of those who don`t- no matter if the Rumours and CO audience wants it or not.

The release of Landslide is in fact ridiculous and fits into the whole Rumours revival band thing that is going on with FM. Lindsey should walk out of that situation and focus on his newer work. Come f.e. was one highlight of the show as was WTWCT.
As for the DVD (which I am looking forward to in memory of my first LB live experience) once again Gerald and the others: I am sure the cover art will be different. It was just a substitute for the real one that they did not have at that point. Some probationer tried to reinforce his faith in... Photoshop. :laugh:

stefan 05-27-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux
What was the Here Comes The Sun disaster (having never heard it)?

He did the song on a tribute show for George Harrison if I remember right. That was 2001 or so- I don`t remember exactly. He did it with his fingerpicking style but the singing sounded really off. The worst thing was the last part where he tried to hit the high notes but didn`t succeed. :laugh: Of course the MP3 is crappy but I am sure that can`t be the only reason. It made me shudder as I heard it.

dissention 05-27-2004 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan
He did the song on a tribute show for George Harrison if I remember right. That was 2001 or so- I don`t remember exactly. He did it with his fingerpicking style but the singing sounded really off. The worst thing was the last part where he tried to hit the high notes but didn`t succeed. :laugh: Of course the MP3 is crappy but I am sure that can`t be the only reason. It made me shudder as I heard it.

That description makes it sound like it was a work of art. :laugh: It was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Then Stevie came along a year later and did Sorcerer at the RMAs at that was almost as torturous.

stefan 05-27-2004 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
That description makes it sound like it was a work of art. :laugh: It was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Yes and wasn`t there a story behind that? The guitar throwing rumour... Anyone who heard the rehearsal would have told him to quit playing on the tribute show :lol:

dissention 05-27-2004 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stefan
Yes and wasn`t there a story behind that? The guitar throwing rumour... Anyone who heard the rehearsal would have told him to quit playing on the tribute show :lol:

Hell, if I heard that in a rehearsal, I would've called the police and told them Liddy Buck was going to torture people that night. ;)

shackin'up 05-27-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux
What was the Here Comes The Sun disaster (having never heard it)?

Lux, It is a really fantastic weird and risky take on Here comes the sun. It borders on bearable. I love it. He really strains everything he has and it comes out as one of the most emotional things he ever sang. He's not off, he's pushing it over every limit. With the risk that even his biggest fans are cringing (like diss and stef). Me adores it. It's buckingham doing a classic as a buckingham that just searches how far he can go with his solo-biglove-goinsane-approach. Maybe he fell off the Ledge. I think he didn't.

strandinthewind 05-27-2004 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
Lux, It is a really fantastic weird and risky take on Here comes the sun. It borders on bearable. I love it. He really strains everything he has and it comes out as one of the most emotional things he ever sang. He's not off, he's pushing it over every limit. With the risk that even his biggest fans are cringing (like diss and stef). Me adores it. It's buckingham doing a classic as a buckingham that just searches how far he can go with his solo-biglove-goinsane-approach. Maybe he fell off the Ledge. I think he didn't.

I agree - it was a risky thing for LB to try - The guitar work is cool - but I just cannot take the vocal - AND I love LB and greatly admire him for being original with the song. It just did not work IMO.

dissention 05-27-2004 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I agree - it was a risky thing for LB to try - The guitar work is cool - but I just cannot take the vocal - AND I love LB and greatly admire him for being original with the song. It just did not work IMO.

I would need a lot of liquor to enjoy it. :o

shackin'up 05-27-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I would need a lot of liquor to enjoy it. :o

Imagine what I can enjoy on a lot of liquor! :laugh:

dissention 05-27-2004 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
Imagine what I can enjoy on a lot of liquor! :laugh:

Liquor? I hardly knew her!

sodascouts 05-27-2004 02:45 PM

Poor Lindsey's HCTS was indeed a disaster. I hate to sound harsh, but it was more of a tribute to Lindsey's fingerpicking skills than to George Harrison's song, which was unrecognizable. But the worst part was Lindsey's screeching, wince-worthy vocals at the end. I was so embarrassed for him.

Oh well, even the greatest genius has not-so-stellar moments. That is one of Lindsey's. Regardless, they should have given the man more respect and not tried to tell him what to do. LB brought in viewers and they should be grateful for that and leave him alone.

CarneVaca 05-27-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
Lux, It is a really fantastic weird and risky take on Here comes the sun. It borders on bearable. I love it. He really strains everything he has and it comes out as one of the most emotional things he ever sang. He's not off, he's pushing it over every limit. With the risk that even his biggest fans are cringing (like diss and stef). Me adores it. It's buckingham doing a classic as a buckingham that just searches how far he can go with his solo-biglove-goinsane-approach. Maybe he fell off the Ledge. I think he didn't.

I like it too. Too bad it's too late for George to hear how it should really be played!

Johnny Stew 05-27-2004 03:34 PM

I have to say I thought LB's "Here Comes The Sun" was pretty fantastic. All gritty and edgy.

CarneVaca 05-27-2004 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
I have to say I thought LB's "Here Comes The Sun" was pretty fantastic. All gritty and edgy.

He he he.... and the conversion begins. :)

Johnny Stew 05-27-2004 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
He he he.... and the conversion begins. :)

*lol*
I'm tellin' ya, dude... I already love Lindsey's music. No need to convert me in that regard.

CarneVaca 05-27-2004 07:16 PM

Come to think of it, just where this information come from? I just saw a "Go Your Own Way" video on VH1 from the Boston concert.


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