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dontlookdown 05-25-2004 12:47 PM

FM and John Kerry
 
There were a bunch of Ledgies who were really bothered to hear that Lindsey and Stevie were supporting John Kerry for president earlier this year.
Here's an AP article that mentions how the band has been sharing their tour plane with Kerry.
Whether or not you like it, The U.S. citizens in the band are behind John Kerry as is most of the state of California.




Kerry's Campaign Gets New Airplane


Tuesday May 25, 2004 2:01 AM


By NEDRA PICKLER

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - John Kerry's presidential campaign is scheduled for takeoff Tuesday on a new plane designed for work and some play.

The Boeing 757-200 includes two conference tables, eight phone lines, a copy machine, a printer and a power outlet in every seat for laptops and cell phone charging. It also has a standup bar for socializing.

The plane is emblazoned ``John Kerry'' and ``President'' and can seat 94 in five cabins. The first cabin is for Kerry, a second contains the conference tables, a third for his staff and the last two seat the media and Secret Service.

Kerry has been using several chartered planes while waiting for his own to be finished. Most recently, he was sharing a plane with the band Fleetwood Mac.

Kerry spokeswoman Allison Dobson said the plane will help Kerry in his cross-country travels because it can fly coast-to-coast without refueling and it can land and take off on short runways at smaller airports.

Kerry plans to speak briefly before the plane's first campaign flight Tuesday from Washington to Portland, Ore.

dissention 05-25-2004 12:52 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Stevie's a Democrat and it's obvious that Lindsey is on the far-left (*cough*ACLU*cough*), so it's not surprising to me. I don't even think that Mick and John are citizens, so it doesn't matter what they think. :laugh:

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontlookdown
Here's an AP article that mentions how the band has been sharing their tour plane with Kerry.
Whether or not you like it, The U.S. citizens in the band are behind John Kerry as is most of the state of California.

Uh, dude, where in the AP story you posted does it say Lindsey and Stevie "are behind John Kerry?" Perhaps you forgot to post that piece?

Like it or not, you insist on making a connection that simply isn't there. Do you know how these shared charter planes work? That FM and John Kerry have shared a plane indicates no other connnection than simply sharing an aircraft. The company that owns the aircraft is merely scheduling the plane between the Kerry campaign and FM. Otherwise, the plane would sit on some tarmac some of the time, losing money for the company. More than likely, FM and Kerry have used two or three different planes. The story even mentions that Kerry has used several.

It is possible that FM is supporting Kerry, but your story doesn't prove it. Nor does the sharing of an aircraft. It is absurd to insist that because they share the plane, the band supports the candidate. By that reasoning, simply because I have shared a plane with George Steinbrenner, I therefore am a Yankees fan? No way. Sox all the way!

dissention 05-25-2004 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarneVaca
It is possible that FM is supporting Kerry, but your story doesn't prove it. Nor does the sharing of an aircraft. It is absurd to insist that because they share the plane, the band supports the candidate. By that reasoning, simply because I have shared a plane with George Steinbrenner, I therefore am a Yankees fan? No way. Sox all the way!

I totally agree, but I think that we could safely assume that they do support him. Stevie's donated money to the democrats and gushed over Clinton, and Lindsey has said bad things about both Shrubs and lent his songs to GLAAD and the ACLU. I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination. :laugh:

darklinensuit 05-25-2004 02:15 PM

Everybody Gets The Vote Out
 
We see no carbs in sight
Watching her recline
She gets on a Kerry plane
She's done it a thousand times

When a Dem flies out on Mac's charter
He listens to Oh Well in the flight
Affairs of the state
For Mac's candidate
Usually veer far from Right

I know you don't agree
(Everypost you tell me)
I know you don't agree

I know Mac loves John
Everyday they fly John
Won't say they adore him
What can we say
You can elect him
You can't delay him
They do vote for him, most of the time
Anywhere they land
Anytime they land
Fly away... Fly away

When nobody sees them
At least not together
We rarely find out
We spend every day
Waiting for the day...

When everyvoter finds out

Don't you know.... don't you know... :wavey:

- Jake

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
I totally agree, but I think that we could safely assume that they do support him. Stevie's donated money to the democrats and gushed over Clinton, and Lindsey has said bad things about both Shrubs and lent his songs to GLAAD and the ACLU. I don't think it's any stretch of the imagination. :laugh:

Assumptions. :rolleyes:

Methinks Lindsey is too liberal for even Kerry.

darklinensuit 05-25-2004 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Assumptions. :rolleyes: .

Assume-ay...says the Ledgie that they burn ;) :wavey:

- Jake

dissention 05-25-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Methinks Lindsey is too liberal for even Kerry.

Methinks Lindsey is so liberal that he'll do anything to get Shrub out of office, and that includes not wasting his vote on Nader.

strandinthewind 05-25-2004 02:57 PM

Kerry is a liberal :shrug:

:cool:

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Methinks Lindsey is so liberal that he'll do anything to get Shrub out of office, and that includes not wasting his vote on Nader.

Methinks Lindsey will be so busy crafting his next batch of songs that he won't even vote.

dissention 05-25-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Methinks Lindsey will be so busy crafting his next batch of songs that he won't even vote.

Methinks you're right.

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Kerry is a liberal :shrug:

:cool:

By southern standards, I suppose.

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Methinks you're right.


Aaahh... and all is well with the world once again. ;)

dissention 05-25-2004 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarneVaca
By southern standards, I suppose.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jason thinks Strom Thurmond is a liberal. Because, hey, no conservative would canoodle with a death row inmate in the back of a limo hours before their execution. That's the behavior of a liberal. :laugh:

Livia 05-25-2004 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darklinensuit
We see no carbs in sight
Watching her recline
She gets on a Kerry plane
She's done it a thousand times

When a Dem flies out on Mac's charter
He listens to Oh Well in the flight
Affairs of the state
For Mac's candidate
Usually veer far from Right

I know you don't agree
(Everypost you tell me)
I know you don't agree

I know Mac loves John
Everyday they fly John
Won't say they adore him
What can we say
You can elect him
You can't delay him
They do vote for him, most of the time
Anywhere they land
Anytime they land
Fly away... Fly away

When nobody sees them
At least not together
We rarely find out
We spend every day
Waiting for the day...

When everyvoter finds out

Don't you know.... don't you know... :wavey:

- Jake

Me thinks this is brilliant! Good one, Jake! :lol:

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jason thinks Strom Thurmond is a liberal. Because, hey, no conservative would canoodle with a death row inmate in the back of a limo hours before their execution. That's the behavior of a liberal. :laugh:

Methinks it might be a while before Jason replies. He's too busy fighting the good fight elsewhere in the FM-fan cyber world.

strandinthewind 05-25-2004 03:16 PM

Hogwash - Jason a/k/a "Achilles" is able to battle all infidels on all fronts at the same time!!! :D

Poor Strom "I think Kay Bailey H. is a hot young peice of a$$" Thurmond - doin' the maid and supressing her civil rights at the same time. What an ass :mad:

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Hogwash - Jason a/k/a "Achilles" is able to battle all infidels on all fronts at the same time!!! :D

Poor Strom "I think Kay Bailey H. is a hot young peice of a$$" Thurmond - doin' the maid and supressing her civil rights at the same time. What an ass :mad:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Aahh, Jason, you're sounding more like Dissention and me by the minute.

gldstwmn 05-25-2004 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontlookdown
There were a bunch of Ledgies who were really bothered to hear that Lindsey and Stevie were supporting John Kerry for president earlier this year.
Here's an AP article that mentions how the band has been sharing their tour plane with Kerry.
Whether or not you like it, The U.S. citizens in the band are behind John Kerry as is most of the state of California.




Kerry's Campaign Gets New Airplane


Tuesday May 25, 2004 2:01 AM


By NEDRA PICKLER

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - John Kerry's presidential campaign is scheduled for takeoff Tuesday on a new plane designed for work and some play.

The Boeing 757-200 includes two conference tables, eight phone lines, a copy machine, a printer and a power outlet in every seat for laptops and cell phone charging. It also has a standup bar for socializing.

The plane is emblazoned ``John Kerry'' and ``President'' and can seat 94 in five cabins. The first cabin is for Kerry, a second contains the conference tables, a third for his staff and the last two seat the media and Secret Service.

Kerry has been using several chartered planes while waiting for his own to be finished. Most recently, he was sharing a plane with the band Fleetwood Mac.

Kerry spokeswoman Allison Dobson said the plane will help Kerry in his cross-country travels because it can fly coast-to-coast without refueling and it can land and take off on short runways at smaller airports.

Kerry plans to speak briefly before the plane's first campaign flight Tuesday from Washington to Portland, Ore.

Have I mentioned that I hold you in the highest regard? :lol:

gldstwmn 05-25-2004 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Stevie's a Democrat and it's obvious that Lindsey is on the far-left (*cough*ACLU*cough*), so it's not surprising to me. I don't even think that Mick and John are citizens, so it doesn't matter what they think. :laugh:

Don't forget GLAAD.

Johnny Stew 05-25-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Aahh, Jason, you're sounding more like Dissention and me by the minute.

:eek: Run, Jason! Save yourself while you still can! ;) :laugh: :laugh:

strandinthewind 05-25-2004 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
:eek: Run, Jason! Save yourself while you still can! ;) :laugh: :laugh:

thank you my handsome mad hatter!!!! :eek:

CarneVaca 05-25-2004 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
:eek: Run, Jason! Save yourself while you still can! ;) :laugh: :laugh:

No way! Too late! :blob2: :]

dissention 05-25-2004 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
:eek: Run, Jason! Save yourself while you still can! ;) :laugh: :laugh:

Wise ass!

You'll all be over here on the darkside eventually. It's simply a matter of time. The venom is as infectious as the laughter resulting from a Shrub misnomer. :lol:

dissention 05-25-2004 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Methinks it might be a while before Jason replies. He's too busy fighting the good fight elsewhere in the FM-fan cyber world.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Methinks I'll be laughing for ten minutes straight.

strandinthewind 05-25-2004 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Methinks I'll be laughing for ten minutes straight.


Well, if that is what it takes to keep you silent for 10 minutes . . . :shrug: :laugh: :shocked: :lol:

Johnny Stew 05-25-2004 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
You'll all be over here on the darkside eventually. It's simply a matter of time. The venom is as infectious as the laughter resulting from a Shrub misnomer. :lol:

Ah, many who were more powerful than you, have tried to persuade me over to the dark side... but it's never worked. I shall remain forever on the side of good and virtue. The universe needs balance after all. ;) :laugh:

dissention 05-25-2004 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, if that is what it takes to keep you silent for 10 minutes . . . :shrug: :laugh: :shocked: :lol:

:lol: That would take a miracle, not a sharp barb from Carney. ;)

ThePenguin 05-25-2004 04:00 PM

Stevie's a Democrat and it's obvious that Lindsey is on the far-left (*cough*ACLU*cough*), so it's not surprising to me. I don't even think that Mick and John are citizens, so it doesn't matter what they think.
__________________

FWIW John IS a US citizen now, and he is also a 'staunch Republican' (or at least has been in the past.). Just wanted to mention it. :-)

--Lis

dissention 05-25-2004 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePenguin
FWIW John IS a US citizen now, and he is also a 'staunch Republican' (or at least has been in the past.). Just wanted to mention it. :-)

--Lis

Thanks, Lisa. :D I'm sorry to hear that, though. :lol: I'd like to sit John down and pick his brain for a few hours, expecially to see what he thinks of Shrub. :D

jbrownsjr 05-25-2004 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Thanks, Lisa. :D I'm sorry to hear that, though. :lol: I'd like to sit John down and pick his brain for a few hours, expecially to see what he thinks of Shrub. :D

dissention, I live for you! :laugh:

ThePenguin 05-25-2004 04:11 PM

Yeah, I'd be interested to know what he thinks of him also. ugh, I just don't care for Bush. John told me about 9 yrs ago that he 'objected to Clinton, period!' I also remember telling him that I was worried that if his guys got in office, that I might be out of a job!! (I was a Head Start teacher back then, and head Start is never high on the Rep's list of priorities!)

-Lis

dissention 05-25-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr
dissention, I live for you! :laugh:

I'm going to have to stop posting because my head is getting too big to fit into my office. :laugh:

gldstwmn 05-25-2004 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePenguin
Stevie's a Democrat and it's obvious that Lindsey is on the far-left (*cough*ACLU*cough*), so it's not surprising to me. I don't even think that Mick and John are citizens, so it doesn't matter what they think.
__________________

FWIW John IS a US citizen now, and he is also a 'staunch Republican' (or at least has been in the past.). Just wanted to mention it. :-)

--Lis

Thanks for the info. John married a US citizen as did Mick, so I guess they would be citizens if they wanted. It's a pity McVie's a Republican. Come on John, they're evil. :lol: :lol: :lol:

dissention 05-25-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePenguin
Yeah, I'd be interested to know what he thinks of him also. ugh, I just don't care for Bush. John told me about 9 yrs ago that he 'objected to Clinton, period!' I also remember telling him that I was worried that if his guys got in office, that I might be out of a job!! (I was a Head Start teacher back then, and head Start is never high on the Rep's list of priorities!)

-Lis

Eeek. He's cut so much from Head Start programs that it's scary. Last year they had to close on certain days in my area because they didn't have enough funding. It's terrible.

gldstwmn 05-25-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePenguin
Yeah, I'd be interested to know what he thinks of him also. ugh, I just don't care for Bush. John told me about 9 yrs ago that he 'objected to Clinton, period!' I also remember telling him that I was worried that if his guys got in office, that I might be out of a job!! (I was a Head Start teacher back then, and head Start is never high on the Rep's list of priorities!)

-Lis

So I take it you're not a Head Start teacher anymore?

ThePenguin 05-25-2004 04:37 PM

No, I worked for Head Start for 5 years and quit when I had my daughter. It is a great program but for it to really work it NEEDS funding. IMO THIS is where this country should be investing millions, not out on Mars or in space somewhere. Those kids truly are born w/ so much stacked against them; it broke my heart to see 17 year old parents trade their food stamps for drugs or alcohol, or spend their monthly checks on fancy hip sneakers instead of paying their electric bills, or buying winter coats for their kids. I could go on and on. Head Start could accomplish so much more if it had the $ to do so.

-Lis

gldstwmn 05-25-2004 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePenguin
No, I worked for Head Start for 5 years and quit when I had my daughter. It is a great program but for it to really work it NEEDS funding. IMO THIS is where this country should be investing millions, not out on Mars or in space somewhere. Those kids truly are born w/ so much stacked against them; it broke my heart to see 17 year old parents trade their food stamps for drugs or alcohol, or spend their monthly checks on fancy hip sneakers instead of paying their electric bills, or buying winter coats for their kids. I could go on and on. Head Start could accomplish so much more if it had the $ to do so.

-Lis

I completely agree with you. Kerry wants to completely fund HS. Hopefully, we'll get the Democratic Congress to do it.

dissention 05-25-2004 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePenguin
or spend their monthly checks on fancy hip sneakers instead of paying their electric bills, or buying winter coats for their kids.

Did you hear what Bill Cosby said last week?! Something like:

"We fought for integrated education, but the poor blacks of our country are not fulfilling their part of the bargain. Instead of paying bills or sending their kids to college, they buy $150 sneakers. And I can't even have a conversation with these people. All they say is 'Who is you?' and 'What you is?'"

I couldn't believe it!!!! Then he said that African-Americans should stop complaining every time a black kid is shot. He said that they get shot for stealing "Coke and pund cake" and instead of bitching about him being shot, they should ask what the hell he was doing with "the pound cake." :laugh:

I was stunned. He is getting to be quite risque in his old age.

strandinthewind 05-25-2004 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePenguin
No, I worked for Head Start for 5 years and quit when I had my daughter. It is a great program but for it to really work it NEEDS funding. IMO THIS is where this country should be investing millions, not out on Mars or in space somewhere. Those kids truly are born w/ so much stacked against them; it broke my heart to see 17 year old parents trade their food stamps for drugs or alcohol, or spend their monthly checks on fancy hip sneakers instead of paying their electric bills, or buying winter coats for their kids. I could go on and on. Head Start could accomplish so much more if it had the $ to do so.

-Lis

I hear ya loud and clear!!! I used to tutor kids from the projects in New Orleans after school. It would break my heart to see the literal abuse by what I thought all of their parents would cause them with their financial choices. But, it always brighten my day when I finally realized in my small micro world - those parents were the minority and most of the kids that were there were there because their parent or parents (sometimes grandparent(s)) were working and they could not go home. I had these people cry to me and praise me for all of my good work. I mean I was just doing this in the beginning because I had nothing better to do and thought it was a good thing to do. I had NO IDEA the positive effect it had on so many. I mean when, as I had, an 11 year old kid's dad who is illiterate like his father before him and has worked in hard labor in the hot Louisiana sun for 10 hours picks up his kid and then cries on your shoulder because his kid can read and is now getting better marks in school because of the program you are a small part of - PPHHEEWW!!!!!

I mean that is so hard to take when you you are not in any way from that - it is disconcerting and fulfilling at the same time.

So, yes, they need to fund any and all programs like Head Start.


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