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dontlookdown 05-13-2004 02:18 PM

Don't Let Me Down Again
 
i just wanted to say - when I heard the mp3 of this track I got really excited. It really reminds me of "the old Fleetwood Mac" - back when the shows were so energy-filled, I would get chills - everybody stood for every song....

They should put this back in the set - it sounds excellent!

cliffdweller 05-13-2004 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlookdown
i just wanted to say - when I heard the mp3 of this track I got really excited. It really reminds me of "the old Fleetwood Mac" - back when the shows were so energy-filled, I would get chills - everybody stood for every song....

They should put this back in the set - it sounds excellent!

I agree. I'm really p.o.'ed they dropped it so early in the tour. I wonder what they'll replace it with. Do we know yet?

Livia 05-13-2004 02:58 PM

Well, like I said in the Madison thread - it just didn't work in a big crowd, it went over like a lead zeppelin. I was thrilled to hear it, the other die hard fans in the front were thrilled to hear it. But, when I looked around at the crowd, the majority of them were scratching their heads like, "Whaaa? What song is this?" And you could tell the band just KNEW it wasn't getting a good response. Maybe they'll add it again in the south, since BN was such a big hit in Birmingham? :shrug:

P.S. - Even though the first few shows have already occurred, I'm SURE there are still some people on the boards who do NOT want to know spoiler info. Last time I checked, the sticky was still on the top of this forum. ;)

strandinthewind 05-13-2004 02:59 PM

I think it would have worked better earlier in the set. That way they could have explained it a little. All I know is they did not look enthused about it afterward or during it.

jbrownsjr 05-13-2004 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think it would have worked better earlier in the set. That way they could have explained it a little. All I know is they did not look enthused about it afterward or during it.

How did they look? I'm seriously wondering?

I've heard from some other people that they look at time bored up there. But I honestly can't picture that from what I've seen.

strandinthewind 05-13-2004 03:18 PM

Well, I think LB was just pissed in general about the whole guitar mess ups. Then, although it did not come out this way on the bootleg, it sounded strange - like someone in the back up was not playing correctly. It was just weird sounding. The vocal, however, sounded good to me, even though it was slowed down a bit. I wish they would put it back in :cool:

diamondsnake 05-13-2004 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr
How did they look? I'm seriously wondering?

I've heard from some other people that they look at time bored up there. But I honestly can't picture that from what I've seen.

Bored? That doesn't sound good!

wondergirl9847 05-13-2004 03:39 PM

Well, I mean, come on
 
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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
Bored? That doesn't sound good!

If it ain't Rumours, it ain't NUTTIN!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

jbrownsjr 05-13-2004 03:58 PM

I have not been able to go to the concerts. But I saw the Dance tour in Cleveland ( i live in LA). I thought they were full of energy. This time around I read reviews that said they looked tired or bored or just lacking in the energy dept.

I seriously can't picture this! SN not twirling around or LB not doing that crazy little dance. Doesn't seem possible.

ryan8472 05-13-2004 04:03 PM

I'd be bored too if I played the same set every night...

I do wish they'd add DLMDA though..

Sorcerer386 05-13-2004 10:42 PM

You guys gotta see this from their perspective. If you've never performed in front of an audience before, be it singing, acting, playing, whatever, you cannot understand what it's like to be doing whatever you're doing and look out at an audience that is lifeless. It's just about the worst feeling ever and it TOTALLY takes all your positive energy away. You just sink into this slump. So that might have been the reason they looked bored, if the audience was bored. Also, yeah, I really think they do get bored playing the same songs all the time, but they can't seem to get over this idea that they "have to play those songs." DLMDA might have just proven that theory to them if they tried it and it wasn't accepted by the mass audience. I bet at least sometimes Stevie walks out on stage and thinks, "Oh God, I have to do (insert popular song here) again! I'm so sick of singing it." After all, she says that's mainly the reason Sara wasn't played for so long...she just got so bored doing it (as well as the numerous other reasons).

David 05-14-2004 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorcerer386
Also, yeah, I really think they do get bored playing the same songs all the time, but they can't seem to get over this idea that they "have to play those songs." DLMDA might have just proven that theory to them if they tried it and it wasn't accepted by the mass audience.

That's one truly fickle mass audience. They loved it back in 1987 when FM played it with Rick Burnette & Billy Vito in the group. It was a highpoint in the set. It rawked!
\m/

joe 05-14-2004 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by David
That's one truly fickle mass audience. They loved it back in 1987 when FM played it with Rick Burnette & Billy Vito in the group. It was a highpoint in the set. It rawked!
\m/

was that the same tour with sharon perry and lori celani???

shackin'up 05-14-2004 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by joe
was that the same tour with sharon perry and lori celani???

No joe, it's the one where sitarplayer Mick McVie was painfully missed.

HomerMcvie 05-14-2004 12:34 PM

I'm detecting sarcasm....

jbrownsjr 05-14-2004 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
I'm detecting sarcasm....

maybe just a little

goldie 05-15-2004 07:21 AM

I was so excited when I heard DLMDA was in the setlist and then bummed when I heard it was dropped. I can understand their probable reasoning, though. Yeah, maybe if they explained a bit of the background of it, people may be more receptive. I still think Frozen Love would go over well no matter what!

joe 05-15-2004 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by goldie
I was so excited when I heard DLMDA was in the setlist and then bummed when I heard it was dropped. I can understand their probable reasoning, though. Yeah, maybe if they explained a bit of the background of it, people may be more receptive. I still think Frozen Love would go over well no matter what!

very true....did you read the tour diaries? they also rehearsed "Monday Morning" but nixed it.

They seem to not be into the country flavored stuff. I don't know, i think they're making a huge mistake ignoring some of these chestnuts (that sounds really dorky but i'm just waking up). Speaking of which, i just had a dream this morning that they put "DLMDA" back in the set. I WAS dreaming.

Since this tour is the first to focus on the B/N lineup, they really NEED to do something from the B/N album.

I'm afraid the problem is that they've ignored these songs for so long that they're completely indifferent to them now.

You know, it reminds me of Genesis. I'm a really big fan of the early days with Peter Gabriel, and then the first few albums with Collins taking over.
But if you look at either of their (Collins or Gabriel) setlists now, they don't even venture into their "wardrobe" (you older folks will know what i mean by that). "i know what i like....."

David 05-15-2004 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by joe
I'm afraid the problem is that they've ignored these songs for so long that they're completely indifferent to them now.

Very plausible!

There's probably no turning back for them now -- all four of them probably think their set list is a "healthy mix" of old & new, known & unknown. Their perceptions (particularly Lindsey's) seem to have changed.

jmn3 05-15-2004 01:58 PM

Unfortunately the Mac hasn't been too unique with their setlists basically since Rumours. The running order changes each tour in the middle of the set, but it's been virtually the same set for over twenty years.

It's not to say that they don't throw something odd in on each tour. "Don't Let Me Down Again," "I Loved Another Woman" on the TITN tour for one, "Silver Springs" being resurrected in '97, and "Beautiful Child" over the last year are some that I can think of. But that's one of twenty five songs...

"Don't Let Me Down Again" sounded flat on the bootleg. Nothing like the live album or the '88 versions of it. Stevie goes on and on introducing "Beautiful Child" but nothing to say to the audience about a song that was released on an album that didn't sell well and was released in 1973!?

And as for new stuff, they just won't stick with any of it. Personally, I feel a lot of that blame falls on the audience and the state of radio in general. Classic Rock artists have a miserable time these days introducing new music. The music might be good but nobody gets to hear it. I really enjoy "Peacekeeper," but it got about three weeks of air play on the local CR station, and I haven't heard it since. Once in a while older rockers get lucky and have a song that gets airplay and is recognized by the average fan ("Silver Springs" IMO is one of those songs, another is "The Rising" by Springsteen). The audience doesn't know new songs at all, so they can't dance/sing to them at the shows...in turn the band doesn't get audience feedback, and drops the songs ("Destiny Rules," "Running Through the Garden").

Bleh...now I'm fired up. IMHO, there are a few songs that have to be played: The Chain, Dreams, Rhiannon, and Go Your Own Way (if Chris were around, Don't Stop and YMLF). The Mac without these songs is the Stones without Satisfaction and JJF, Bruce without Born to Run, The Eagles without Hotel California, and so on. Besides those four songs, the rest of the set should be totally reworked. It's old and tired. :distress:

goldie 05-15-2004 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joe
very true....did you read the tour diaries? they also rehearsed "Monday Morning" but nixed it.

They seem to not be into the country flavored stuff. I don't know, i think they're making a huge mistake ignoring some of these chestnuts (that sounds really dorky but i'm just waking up). Speaking of which, i just had a dream this morning that they put "DLMDA" back in the set. I WAS dreaming.

Since this tour is the first to focus on the B/N lineup, they really NEED to do something from the B/N album.

I'm afraid the problem is that they've ignored these songs for so long that they're completely indifferent to them now.

You know, it reminds me of Genesis. I'm a really big fan of the early days with Peter Gabriel, and then the first few albums with Collins taking over.
But if you look at either of their (Collins or Gabriel) setlists now, they don't even venture into their "wardrobe" (you older folks will know what i mean by that). "i know what i like....."

Great thoughts, Joe. I agree - something from BN would be so fitting for this tour - esp. for the 2nd half. (WHY OH WHY OH WHY wasn't I at the opening night?)

goldie 05-15-2004 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jmn3
"Don't Let Me Down Again" sounded flat on the bootleg.

Where can I find a copy of this?

Rumours 05-15-2004 04:44 PM

Oh shoot, why did they drop this already!!!!??? :eek: :shrug: :distress:

Stephanie

wondergirl9847 05-15-2004 04:50 PM

Go here
 
www.bluewhitefire.com and click Fireflies then on downloads. You can get DLMDA, Red Rover, IKINW, Sara and Destiny Rules.

Rumours 05-15-2004 04:59 PM

SWEET!!!! You rock, just as much as, apparently, from what I've been reading here, Cory Buckingham!!!

Stephanie

77Rumours77 05-15-2004 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847
If it ain't Rumours, it ain't NUTTIN!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

Well Jesus, If they are doing Rumours stuff the least they could of done was I Don't wanna know to replace DLMDA. I'm sure some people know that ;)

shackin'up 05-15-2004 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jmn3
"Don't Let Me Down Again" sounded flat on the bootleg.

i don't know, the bootleg sounds flat. If you listen carefully you hear very very fantastic paceful and crisp guitarwork with a wonderful sync-player behind it. The vocals may sound more monotonal then 24 years ago, but they really blend. Maybe you're right. But I have the feeling you're not. Let's wait for a better boot. Although it's a rocking song that needs primal energy, I hear that more in the subtleness of this version. Maybe that's the reason that it's not a good encore, but I sense that it was wonderfully done.

HomerMcvie 05-15-2004 07:11 PM

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www.bluewhitefire.com and click Fireflies then on downloads. You can get DLMDA, Red Rover, IKINW, Sara and Destiny Rules.
Where IS fireflies? I just don't see where the downloads are.
Help, and thanks. And feeling inept....

wondergirl9847 05-15-2004 07:27 PM

Homer...
 
To the left...it says Fireflies, Site and Trading.

HomerMcvie 05-15-2004 07:55 PM

:laugh:
Oh! That little tiny stuff is writing! And it doesn't bring up a 'hand" link thing over it either, adding to my confusion.
Maybe it's time to get glasses.....or a bigger monitor!

jmn3 05-15-2004 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
i don't know, the bootleg sounds flat. If you listen carefully you hear very very fantastic paceful and crisp guitarwork with a wonderful sync-player behind it. The vocals may sound more monotonal then 24 years ago, but they really blend. Maybe you're right. But I have the feeling you're not. Let's wait for a better boot. Although it's a rocking song that needs primal energy, I hear that more in the subtleness of this version. Maybe that's the reason that it's not a good encore, but I sense that it was wonderfully done.

The more I think about it...I really think it would have fared better in the middle of the set with a little intro..."Stevie and I did an album some of you may have heard of back in '73...this is one of the tunes from that album...hope you like it, it's called "Don't Let Me Down Again."

I think the audience response to it would have been a LOT better, and in turn, the band would play it each night and generally these songs get better after the first few shows of a tour.

shackin'up 05-16-2004 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3
The more I think about it...I really think it would have fared better in the middle of the set with a little intro..."Stevie and I did an album some of you may have heard of back in '73...this is one of the tunes from that album...hope you like it, it's called "Don't Let Me Down Again."

I think the audience response to it would have been a LOT better, and in turn, the band would play it each night and generally these songs get better after the first few shows of a tour.

I agree. A little intro would have been good for building some context for the audience...


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