Anyone else not care for Lindsey's Tusk stuff?
 

Aside from the title track and the Ledge, I just don't care for Lindsey's stuff on Tusk. Christine's and Stevie's stuff is amazing and beautiful, but Lindsey's stuff is always skipped over on this album. I don't like it one bit, not one bit! However, it seems like most people on this board are in love with everything Lindsey does (Lindsey obviously gets more praise then Stevie on this board), so is there anyone else that shares these feelings about his stuff on tusk? The songs just leave me cold and are weird and silly. :blob2:

Wow, I've never thought of it like that. I guess they do suck!

Are you keeping track? Because even if there was a way of quanitifying this, I don't think you're right.

Also, just in terms of your whole topic.. 'Lindsey's Tusk stuff' is Tusk. He produced, arranged, played that album. I'm sure that Storms would have been fantastic if the Bella Donna guy had produced it but... um, no thanks.

Again, you'll grow up.

They may not be your cup of tea- but they are amazing songs.

Most people on this board aren't in love with everything Lindsey does- personally, I poop on Out of the Cradle. (/Triumph the insult comic dog)

I'll admit I had to get used to it. But that's usually the really good music, the things I don't instantly like but need to hear more than once, and then like so much more than anything.
Sorry, I'm a big fan of Lindsey's Tusk-music.

I love Lindsey's Tusk stuff, it's Chris' material that leaves me cold. It's just dull.

Save Me A Place and The Ledge are two of Lindsey's best songs.

i think Lindsey's Tusk songs are brilliant. This record is the album that made me an obsessed FM fan. I thought it was daring, brave, smart, funny, beautiful, challenging, and most importantly - it has stood the test of time better than every other FM album. The reason is because of Lindsey's songs and his production on the rest of the album.

Tusk is one of the best records made - right up there with Revolver and Pet Sounds. If you don't "get" Lindsey's Tusk work, you don't "get" Fleetwood Mac.

Just my opinion - but I think there are two kinds of fans - those that dig the top 40 pop stuff - and those that "get" Lindsey's art.

I like if not love Tusk. It was a turning point for a variety of reasons with mainstream burnout probably being the most significant. I do not like all of LB's songs - they are just too out there for me. Good examples of this are NTF and The Ledge. I think these two are brilliant in concept, but are just too confused in what they want to be. But, I do get what he was going for and think others like Save Me a Place, Tusk, and Walk a Thin Line are gorgeous. I think listening to his stuff on Tusk is like watching the first hints of his new genius and the change from the 70's guitar god stance strongly reflected in his personal demeanor and dress and in the brilliant GYOW and ISA. SYW is a good example of that genius evolved. Songs like Red Rover, Murrow, and Miranda are brilliantly quirky and are more focused and polished than some of the things on Tusk.

Interstingly and risking the wrath of the Buckinghamists on the board, I think Tusk was Stevie's moment. Her songs are brilliant, melodic, and carefully crafted, with many kudos to LB for that, and eclipse all other songs on the record.

Mmmmhmmm
 

Let us know what else leaves you cold because it's weird and silly. Maybe we can pass a law against weird and silly. That way you'll stay warm. Nyet? :p

Orpheus bless you, child. No truer words have ever come out of your keyboard. :thumbsup:

You know Diamondsnake may be the most provactive of anyone on this board.....Each day he posts a new thread. The title is often a question to all ledgies. The post itself can at times be filled with statements written in the manner and innocence of a 15 year old, but man they sure do get this board jumping. I am not even going to get into the issues of taste and perception vs fact that he often blurs....So yeah, as Hayley says someday he may become more mature, but until then he will surely continue to drive the discourse on this board.

I used to feel that way about Lindsey's Tusk songs, but I finally decided to give it more of a chance ---especially since the reissues were released.. Some of the songs are not songs I would listen to on an every day basis, but for me they really do represent like someone said a shift in music, and really like a leaving of the 1970s...

I don't know how to explain it, but I do think if Lindsey's songs on TUSK had been like his songs on Rumours (Which i love), that Fleetwood Mac would not have had the career they had...Tusk keep Fleetwood Mac fresh and new, and let the world know, whether they liked it or not, that Fleetwood Mac was not just a hit making machine..which gave them a lot of validity

Chris

I like LB's songs on this album. Especially the ledge! However, these are far from sophisticated. There's usually 2 chords over and over again and a third chord thrown in later. If he wasn't a genius with the guitar, I would go crazy listening to some of his stuff.

And that's not to pick on him. All 3 writers don't use many chords. For instance Angel I think is D, C, G - D, C, G repeat and rinse! :lol:

The thing about FM is that they can make a 3 chord song song sound beautiful, experimental and they blend well (for having 3 different voices).

To me if you say I like LB more than CM, you're saying I like Blue better than Red. etc. it's a matter of taste :nod:

The funny thing is...

.....this thread is a question:

Anyone else not care for Lindsey's Tusk stuff?

Nobody in the thread was asked to answer. If I read a question like that, it's simply not directed at me. So I read those threads, but normally don't get involved.

If you're a pure pop/easy listening lover I understand that you don't like his stuff on Tusk.

So I'll repeat the question:

IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO HAS THE GUTS NOT LIKING LINDSEY'S STUFF ON TUSK?


I wonder if there will be sound or silence now......


gerald

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:laugh:

:shocked: ! !

:confused:

When I first heard 'Tusk,' I didn't know if I loved Lindsey's stuff or hated it.
I was leaning more towards the latter, I have to admit.

But the more I listened, the more the songs grew on me, and I have to say that I found the quirkiness and robust spirit contained within most of his songs, to be totally compelling.

"The Ledge," "I Know I'm Not Wrong," "That's All For Everyone," "That's Enough For Me," "Tusk," "Walk A Thin Line," and "What Makes You Think You're The One," are all favorites (most especially the first three that I noted).
"Not That Funny" is cool too, and I'm actually one of those rare birds who prefers the album version to the live versions.

The only "clunker," in my very humble opinion, is "Save Me A Place."
Which I know has a pretty decent-sized following around these parts, but to me, it still sounds like the aural equivalent of sludge. :shrug:

Christopher... try listening to the album with this running order, and perhaps you'll enjoy Lindsey's material more....

1. Tusk
2. Think About Me
3. Angel
4. Save Me A Place
5. Over & Over
6. That's All For Everyone
7. Storms
8. Not That Funny
9. Brown Eyes
10. The Ledge
11. Sara
12. That's Enough For Me
13. Honey Hi
14. Walk A Thin Line
15. Sisters Of The Moon
16. What Makes You Think You're The One
17. Never Make Me Cry
18. I Know I'm Not Wrong
19. Beautiful Child
20. Never Forget

Growing like a fungus
 

There will always be people who appreciate good music :)
but it'll be three hundred thousand rather than three million ;)

Good music is not for everyone. And I like it that way.

I think both Lindsey & Stevie require a special kind of audience to truly appreciate their stuff.

Certainly it's easy to love stuff like "Go Your Own Way," and "Landslide," for example, but there's absolutely no way that every listener will appreciate something like "The Ledge" or even "Beautiful Child."
And then when you get into their respective solo careers, it becomes harder and harder for the casual listener to enjoy every track.

With Lindsey's odd phrasings, and quirky productions, and Stevie's fey lyrics and nasally voice, they're never going to be everyone's cup of tea.
Which is kind of why it's sad that we always have warring factions on these boards, when it really should be all of us against the rest of the world. After all, we're the smart ones! ;) :nod:

Tusk is a brilliant album with brilliant songs from all three songwriters. And also to add "I Know I'm Not Wrong" is greatness. I absolutely love this song, and I'm totally digging the "alternate" version on the Tusk re-issue (the third version on there). It's becoming one of my all time favorite Lindsey songs.

I was always very proud that I was the only person my age in high school, who was a major Mac fan. Felt like I knew something everyone else didn't. :nod:

I think the best artists are the ones who walk that thin line between the esoteric and the universal.
Stevie and Lindsey are both pretty good at that, but obviously neither succeeds every time. :)

I LOVE Lindsey's Tusk songs. But that was not always the case. In act I remeber like my 2nd post ever here at the ledge was a very un nice post about how Stevie has been horribly neglected and in there was something saying her songs are the only thing worth listening to on Tusk :shocked: Well alot changes in 3 years I'll tell you. In fact I'll tell you everyting :laugh: Now I love ALL of Tusk. Stevie's songs, Lindsey's Songs, Chirtines songs (over and Over and Brown Eyes are absolutely 2 of her all time bests)

But on the topic of Lindsey's songs. I know I'm not breaking new ground here but my favorite song of his is from Tusk, Tusk. My other 2 favorites are WMYTYTO an amazing song when you're mad at anything and IKINW which used to be dead last on my favorite Lindssey songs from ANY album. That song has to be the biggest grower ever. The Ledge and Not That Funny are excellent. NTF is another great angry song. the only Lindsey song I dislike from Tusk is Save Me a Place, which is one of the worst songs ever by Lindsey or the band. I'm not a big Walk a Thin Line fan either.

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counting on my fingers counting on my toes. the hurd is growing!!!! :eek: ;)

LOL - I went to HS from 1981 to 1985 - so FM and the solo ventures were huge :laugh: I am truly fortunate to have been there for that :D

Carne and I are a decent-sized following? I don't ever see anyone but the two of us say that it's such an amazing song! LOL

As for the sludge comment, I guess we'll be even from now on when discussing WISYA (as we always do...). :xoxo:

:laugh:

We must be kindred souls.

Hello - I LOVE SMAP and applauded with exoltation when he played it live in Chicago. AND at 6'4" I count as two in the herd :eek:

Clearly he was referring to the size of our personalities, not the number of fans of the song. [ducking for the inevitable slam from Soudascouts] :laugh:

well, count me in. But, as I recall, Strandinthewind is a smap-lover, and I've seen a lot of mentions of this heartfelt song in wishlists for the setlist. But maybe I'm wrong and only see it in my own dreams a bit too many. :shrug:

Jason, since I like you anyway, you can join the Save Me a Place Appreciators Association, or SMAPAA, pronounce "smapah." Welcome. Now we have to come up with a suitable induction ritual.

If that's the case, we outnumber all these suckers.

OK, you too may join SMAPAA. What's the password?

Give me tequila, a worm, and a live chicken with a terrified look on its face . . . :woohoo:

Holy cow, you post so quick that my Strandmention just falls into "what-the- hell-is-he-talking-about-I-just-read-that-from-the-guy-himself"-category.

bugger. :laugh:

No ritual would be complete without a chant:

We're alone now
With our SMAP
And how we all love it
How it simply kicks ass
And, ooh, the chants of ole "smapah"

IsniffAthinLine

It ain't Skull & Bones, man.