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golden braid 03-16-2004 12:57 AM

Listen to the Rumours Bonus disc
 
On www.fleetwoodmac.com they have links to listen to the Rumours bonus disc! Here are the links to listen:

QUICKTIME
http://www.onlyhitmusic.com/listenin...eamPlayer.mgi2
WINDOWSMEDIA
http://www.onlyhitmusic.com/listenin..._album_100.asx
REAL
http://www.onlyhitmusic.com/listenin...3882_album.ram

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 01:05 AM

Ooh... very cool!
Thanks for the heads-up! :D

I'm on dial-up, but I'm going to try to listen.

Thanks. :)

secondhandchain 03-16-2004 01:24 AM

I'm up to "Never Going Back Again" I loveeeeeeee this version. Great harmonics Lindsey!!!!

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 01:34 AM

This "Silver Springs" is amazing.
I don't know if this take will be familiar to anyone else, but it's definitely new to me! :D

They're all great so far... very much worth the wait. :)

secondhandchain 03-16-2004 01:36 AM

Sonbird is really nice with the added guitar. Oh and I love Second Hand News, a more straight ahead version. Dreams, Don't Stop and Go Your Own Way just sound like early works in progress.

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 01:37 AM

Don't want to spoil it for anyone, so I'll just say that I love the ending on this version of "You Make Loving Fun." :D

golden braid 03-16-2004 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Don't want to spoil it for anyone, so I'll just say that I love the ending on this version of "You Make Loving Fun." :D
Me too! I also love Planets of the Universe. I had never heard this version before. :D

secondhandchain 03-16-2004 01:46 AM

The ending of "You Make Lovin Fun" OMG it's great. I like the finished version but this sounds great too.

secondhandchain 03-16-2004 01:50 AM

The ending of Gold Dust is different too. Really cool.

DownOnRodeo 03-16-2004 01:51 AM

I'm just starting! The (different?) bass line on SHN is what I'm enjoying most at the moment.
How great - its excellent quality but considerably different music!

paleshadow 03-16-2004 01:56 AM

I really love Stevie's vocals on "Oh Daddy".

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 02:03 AM

Yep, we all got our wish... this is a completely different, full-band version of "Planets Of The Universe!" :D

And "Butter Cookie (Keep Me There)" doesn't sound anything like the "Keep Me There" that we've all heard before... at least not to me.

I have recognized a couple of these versions from the stuff that has circulated, but the majority of it is brand new to me.
I think most everyone will be pleased when they hear these tracks. :)

secondhandchain 03-16-2004 02:05 AM

They must have had to consult Christine huh. Do you think they needed her permission? Was she involved? hmmm

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 02:06 AM

"Doesn't Anything Last" is a very short Lindsey demo... I liked it a lot.

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 02:09 AM

Hmm, I could have lived without "Mic The Screecher," but I guess it's a nice curiousity.
Thankfully it ends just as it's getting really annoying.

"For Duster" is quite nice... I'm really enjoying this one. :)

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by secondhandchain
They must have had to consult Christine huh. Do you think they needed her permission? Was she involved? hmmm
Yes, they were all consulted, and each had to approve the final mixes for this to be released. :)

secondhandchain 03-16-2004 02:15 AM

All done. My favorites:

Second Hand News-
Never Going back again - I would say this if my absolute favorite. It is beautiful.
Songbird - really nice mix
You make lovin fun - the end with Stevie is great
Silver Springs - nice vocal take I have never heard
Gold Dust Woman - nice

Oh, I almost named all of them.
The Dreams final version has a much improved bass line. John did not quite have the groove yet.


I hope I am not giving too much away.

DownOnRodeo 03-16-2004 02:18 AM

I like what Lindsey and the band were trying to do with Planets.
And amazing vocals from Stevie.. of course. :)

The extra vocals on Oh Daddy can be heard on the Rumours Classic Albums DVD. And the extra YMLF vocals are what they sung live back in the day, going by a bootleg I've heard, or it could even be in some live footage from that Rumours doco.

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 02:23 AM

Final thoughts....

I just spent an hour listening to it, and I want to listen again... and that's always a good sign, in my opinion.

Some of these versions will be familiar to people who collect bootleg discs or download from the various sites, but even those fans will be pleasantly surprised to be hearing some stuff for the very first time.

Even though streaming audio isn't conducive to the best sound quality, I could still tell that these were mastered with care.

Overall, it's a terrific disc, and I think everyone will be satisfied with it. I highly recommend it. :nod: :)

Alison 03-16-2004 02:25 AM

I stayed way past my bed time to hear this. I was amazed at how good the sound is. Love Oh Daddy, Stevie adds some real great backing vocals. Silver Springs, she gives it all she has. Love planets too. It was all great. not really into the blues jam thing. I hope this stays up for a while so I can listen again. In Canada they have this cd listed at $29. Is there away this can be downloaded? Hmmm.

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
And the extra YMLF vocals are what they sung live back in the day, going by a bootleg I've heard, or it could even be in some live footage from that Rumours doco.
You're right, Joe... it's the same vocal arrangement that we hear on the 'Rosebud' documentary version.

But I didn't want to spill the beans on that! :p :laugh:

DownOnRodeo 03-16-2004 02:30 AM

The jam at the end is terrific! It's the sort of coda-style jam that yusually gets cut off just when its getting good, except this one just plays on and on. :D It's Bob Welch era right?

The Mic The Screecher thing - who/what on earth is that. An who thought it would be good to put on an audio CD? lol
Maybe the new expanded liner notes will explain.

Johnny Stew 03-16-2004 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
The jam at the end is terrific! It's the sort of coda-style jam that yusually gets cut off just when its getting good, except this one just plays on and on. :D It's Bob Welch era right?

The Mic The Screecher thing - who/what on earth is that. An who thought it would be good to put on an audio CD? lol
Maybe the new expanded liner notes will explain.

"Mic The Screecher" is, at best, a curiousity. But I doubt I'll be listening to it more than once.
I kept waiting for it to kick into something cool, then it just began to get annoying. Thankfully, it ended not long after that.

"For Duster," on the other hand, is terrific. I think the fans that go way back to FM's blues days, will be really pleased with that jam.

I don't think it's Bob Welch era, Joe... but I'm pretty sure one of the articles about the reissues, said he plays on it. :)

Kudos to David McLees, et all. :nod:

David R 03-16-2004 05:54 AM

I am going to wait till they are released so I can be surprised, damn you all for tempting me, haha.

DownOnRodeo 03-16-2004 06:43 AM

Hello, Francis' knee.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lux
I just downloaded it with something called HiDownload. Don't know if that means much to you.
I'd be wary about this. I just downloaded that program and then use it to download the ram stream... it worked for SHN then after that the songs are all weirded up. It actually makes for interesting listening; but people for whom it took ages to dload or don't have 25 MB to spare will not be impressed.

DownOnRodeo 03-16-2004 07:21 AM

Anyone think the piano in Mic the Screecher could be POTU?

CarneVaca 03-16-2004 09:19 AM

Thanks for the link, dude. Go Your Own Way feels so naked without the acoustic guitar track. Scandalous!

GypsySorcerer 03-16-2004 09:51 AM

Silver Springs - LOVE IT!!!!

Songbird - really lovely. Almost tops the album version. Actually, I think it does.

YMLF - I like it! Stevie's vocals add a lot.

NGBA - gorgeous.

GDW - stunning, but I miss the howl.

:)

CarneVaca 03-16-2004 10:05 AM

I dig this version of Think About It, which was always one my favorite Bella Donna songs. I wish Lindsey had done some kick-ass leads on this.

Alison 03-16-2004 10:42 AM

That HiDownLoad did not work for me.
Is there another program easier to use, or am I doing something wrong? HELP

CarneVaca 03-16-2004 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alison
That HiDownLoad did not work for me.
Is there another program easier to use, or am I doing something wrong? HELP

I got an idea: Enjoy the streaming, and buy the damn CD next week!

Mad4stevie 03-16-2004 11:14 AM

FANTASTIC!!!!

I am so digging NGBA right now :)

gldstwmn 03-16-2004 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mad4stevie
FANTASTIC!!!!

I am so digging NGBA right now :)

Me too. The sound quality on these is great.:)

marc402 03-16-2004 11:36 AM

listening to it for the secont time now
and as you said johnny that is a good sign ;)
love every song although i agree with most coment on the screetcher they should have put it behind duster instead of infront of it
I'm realy diging planets , stil prefer the tisl version but this is a great twist on it none theless
i think think about me sounds great with the lindsey vocals on it
gonna keep this stream on repeat for a while lol

Alison 03-16-2004 11:57 AM

I got an idea: Enjoy the streaming, and buy the damn CD next week! Carne Vaca Said:

Excuse me, I am enjoying it. But I live on a fixed income. I have spent hundreds on buying their C.Ds. But where I live we normally don't get things like this unless we specail order it.
Then you pay over thirty bucks. When the special Say you will C.D came out, it was 38 bucks. Even in the big chain stores which is one and a half hours away, list it at $28
So when the price comes down I will buy the "Damn" CD.
Alison

Lauren 03-16-2004 12:00 PM

This was such a nice suprise to find in my in box this morning! I second the love of this version of "Silver Springs" and also "YMLF" the ending is fabulous! Love "NGBA" too!

Wasn't crazy about GYOW but don't mess with the best on that one IMO! (the one we all know and love). I have yet to find a better version of that one than the Rumours original.

I haven't listened to it all but it's very nice. Can't wait for the Cds next Tues!
Lauren

strandinthewind 03-16-2004 02:21 PM

OMG - I am having a coniption (sp.? ) fit :laugh: with these.

BTW - Johnny Stew - bite the bullet and get DSL - once you do - there is not going back (again) :cool:

Livia 03-16-2004 02:58 PM

I'm gonna behave
 
and not listen until I get the real deal.

:nod:

wondergirl9847 03-16-2004 03:08 PM

Hehe...
 
Me too, Livia. It's VERY difficult tho.

David 03-16-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lauren
This was such a nice suprise to find in my in box this morning! I second the love of this version of "Silver Springs" and also "YMLF" the ending is fabulous! Love "NGBA" too!
My favorite is this "Butter Cookie" thing from Chris. This is the best thing I've heard from Fleetwood Mac in decades. I don't think I've ever heard anything so beautiful as this. This one really excites me. I expect I'll be playing it on repeat for weeks.

Only Hit Music sent out the Tusk package I ordered today. I've been listening to that one, too. Did anyone else hear it yet? Basically, most of the stuff is either the same stuff we have, or slight variations on it. A couple of interesting new things are included, too. My favorite is "Kiss & Run," which stupidly fades out after only two minutes when the band is still singing & playing. Dumb production decision, that.

There's been so much great stuff surfacing among the fans for the past four or five years in beautiful quality (& years before that in less good sound quality) that it would have been nearly impossible for Rhino -- despite their good intentions -- to equal it, let alone exceed it. Sure enough, they really haven't been able to surpass what the fans have been illegitimately passing around for a long time now. Fans remain the best source of vault goodies; the Rhino releases haven't changed that.

But I give Rhino credit for at least doing *something* with these goodies after all these years, when the band itself totally ignored its vaults.

Another letdown for me is the liner notes. I was really looking forward to a couple of savvy critics from the old generation (like Parke Puterbaugh & David Wild) scouring through the annals of the recording studios the band used, & compiling a really thorough, anecdotally natured essay for each Rhino release. Unfortunately, what really happened is that a couple of good writers just thought that all they had to do was bone up on Mick Fleetwood's 1990 book & rehash it in slightly altered form. No new insights at all in these liner notes about the recording process, the unreleased material or even about the band dynamics. Bummer, bummer, bummer . . . a totally wasted opportunity to treat Mac with the same seriousness & dedication & zeal that Dylan, Springsteen, Led Zep & others are treated with.


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