Stevie songs never performed
 

While Stevie holds onto a core group of Fleetwood Mac songs that she plays to death -- Rhiannon, Landslide, Dreams, Gold Dust Woman and Stand Back etc... there's a long list of songs that she has never performed in concert. Since Beautiful Child was such an unprecedented surprise, which of these songs do you think could feasibly be pulled out for future performance:

Crystal
I Don't Want To Know
Storms
That's Alright
Fireflies
Straight Back
When I See You Again
Welcome To The Room Sara
No Questions Asked
Affairs Of The Heart
Freedom
The Second Time
Paper Doll
Not Make Believe
Illume
Thrown Down
Smile At You
Silver Girl
Everybody Finds Out

I tend to think that any of the older songs are stronger, more likely candidates...such as Crystal or Storms. And why the hell haven't they done I Don't Want To Know??? The only Rumours track never performed live -- and such a great Buckingham Nicks song!

As far as the new ones, aside from Destiny Rules and Running Through The Garden (criminal that these songs were dropped), Thrown Down, Illume and Smile At You.

While the shows on this tour have been great...it is painfully obvious that, while Lindsey has choosen to be progressive and move forward with new songs, Stevie is staunchly regressive -- safely (and frustratingly) clinging to past glories, with just a mere 2 two new songs. Ahhh!

I agree with what you said about Stevie. :nod:

As long as I see Storms performed live one of these days, I'll die happy. :D

I'll be praying with you for that one...maybe someday. :)


-- Jason :cool:

CRYSTAL

sums it up for me.

I think Stevie plays those same songs over and over again because those are very popular songs that even someone who doesn't regularly listen to FM would know those songs. There are probably many fans who come to the concerts who are really only aware of the Rumours stuff and they expect to hear it.
Of course I would love to hear some of her lesser know songs especially Storms. I think I Don't Wanna Know would be great for her and Lindsey to do also. :nod:

Is it just me or does Fleetwood Mac always play it safe when they tour. The Setlists always begin with a combination of The Chain Dreams and another song. The main set always seems to end with something like GYOW and the show always ends with a ballad. Why don't they ever do more rarities and respect the true fans that have come not only to hear the hits but to hear the other songs that are just as good as any of there hit songs.
I would love to hear Seven Wonders, Storms, Sara, I Don't Wanna Know, That's Enough For Me, The Second Time and Caroline live in concert.

I think "I Don't Wanna Know" would be fantastic to hear. Unfortunately, i don't think Stevie could sing in that same key for that song. They would have to drop it down a few keys.

The ones that stand out for me are "Crystal", "Storms" and "Everybody Finds Out".

"Crystal" could work now. This was a B/N song and was rerecorded for the FM white album. I think a majority of the peeps at the concerts would recognize it. And it's a really nice song too.

I just popped "Storms" into my car cd player today....haven't heard it in a while but it just popped into my head so i had to hear it. As i was listening to it i was thinking about the article before the tour that said they were rehearsing this song (plus "Monday Morning") for the tour. I wasn't 100% sure if it would have worked...but actually, the more i listened to it i thought it could. If "Beautiful Child" worked then why couldn't this one. The lyrics are great and it's really a great emotional song that says a lot. I think it would be wise for Stevie to showcase this one if the opportunity arises.

"Everybody Finds Out" has got to replace "Stand Back"....i'm sorry, i know Stevie gets pumped for "Stand Back" but why can't she kick it up a few notches for this one? She relies too much on that song to get the crowd going...EFO obviously has the same stamina and energy and it's new....so come Stevie let everyone find out what the hell it is you fear they're going to find out!!!:laugh:

ok...that's my $.03!

I think they ditched Storms simply because Stevie has too many slow songs for the tour. Beautiful Child, Landslide, Goodbye Baby, Silver Springs (kind of). I mean, there's not enough production in Storms to make it "nontransferable" to the stage.

She sang those first two lines of Frozen Love in Chicago without hesitation, so that could be done. I don't think she can do the high harmony on I Don't Want To Know anymore. She could sing everything on that list with the exception of Smile At You, IMO.

I wish she would do Some Become Strangers-I know this will nerer ever happen

Or Strait Back- not possible

Long Way To Go- Maybe, still doubt it,

or Thrown Down-Possible

*I wish she would do No Spoken Word on this tour.

Straight Back almost made it!!!

It was on the mirage rehearsals.
Sounds fabulous to me, but I guess the band didn't think so.:distress:

Francisco:cool:

I agree. And Fireflies would be appropriate on this tour, but again, I wonder about the vocal.

As I've said before, Crystal would be great as a duet.

- Jake

I kind of like the fact that Stevie has largely kept her solo career separate from her career with Fleetwood Mac. I remember when she first went solo with Bella Donna. It was a little disconcerting to hear Fleetwood Mac classics like Dreams, Gold Dust Woman and Rhiannon reinvented and played live by a band that wasn't Fleetwood Mac. In hindsite, it now makes sense --they were her songs, and she needed to pad her concert set.

Conversely, it was equally disconcerting to hear Fleetwood Mac perform Stand Back and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You (starting with the Rick Vito/Billy Burnette version of the band.)

Stand Back has become a Fleetwood Mac concert staple because it embodies so much energy. But I can't see/hope the band never delves into more obscure Stevie solo tracks...there are too many great unperformed Fleetwood Mac tracks!!! Save the Stevie solo tracks for her solo tours.

The suggestion that Stevie replace Stand Back with Everybody Finds Out is a great one! It does have the same energy. And since radio hit singles appear to be a thing of the past...there is no better way to establish new classics other than to perform them!!

It does kind of suck that she only does the big hits this tour with few surprises. Even though it would have been cool to see them on one of their recent tours after reading over setlists I didn't feel like I was missing out on much.

As far as her ballads I think Storms beats the pants off of Landslide. Plus, every time I hear them doing Landslide I always end up wishing it was with Billy Corgan's guitar solo anyways. Landslide is one of those songs that says a lot lyrically but Storms really does it for me much more on a musical level, which overall just makes it better. :)

Straight Back is one of her best songs but I get the impression that it would never come across as well as the album version.

As far as them playing Stand Back, I don't understand why they feel the need to include one of her solo songs. Same with Lindsey when he'd do Go Insane. Stand Back is sort of corny, they could have at least picked Edge Of 17. :nod:

Paper Doll I think would fit in the set nicely somewhere. When I first started getting into the band digging into my dad's Chain boxed set it was one of my favorite songs on it to listen to. I think that one might be a little too far fetched of a choice though.

Besides maybe one or two others on your list Penguinhead I don't think I'd care to hear any of those other ones. Now that Stevie's rehabbed and in fine singing voice I don't think I'd be able to appreciate When I See You Again without being able to laugh at it.

I Don't Wanna Know was one of the first FM songs I'd ever heard, and is still one of my favroites... I'd love seeing that one performed. Also, Firefiles and No Questions Asked would sound cool live.

FROZEN LOVE - FROZEN LOVE - FROZEN LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Count me in on that prayer!:nod:

"Storms" is one of Stevie's greatest songs, and I don't think anybody will argue with that! It's my personal favourite (and one of my favourite songs of all time!); it would be SO easy (from a production point of view) to perform it on stage...it could even be done with ONLY Stevie and LB on stage...I just can't see the logic behind it NOT being on every single Fleetwood Mac (and Stevie solo) setlist.:shrug:

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

I love I Don't Want to Know, I think it'd sound perfect done live. I love Crystal, but I prefer Lindsey's version. Straight Back is one of my favorite songs, but I don't think it'd be the same minus Christine's harmonies :distress:. I'd LOVE to hear Smile at You, Storms, and I'd kill to see them dig up SOTM to perform live again.

I completely disagree with that! If you applied that logic to the other older songs, Stevie would never again sing Rhiannon, Dreams etc... Yes, Stevie's voice has changed (as all singers' voices change as they age). She no longer sings many of her songs in their original key. Dreams is a perfect example of that.

It's unreasonable to expect her at age 54(?) to sound exactly how she did when she was 26. And it's unfair to hold their live performances up against the studio versions....Fleetwood Mac, even in their heyday of the 1970s, never ever replicated their studio sound in live performance. And now, like many older singers, they've had to adjust to compensate. Stevie can sing anything...including I Don't Want To Know!

If I'd hear "Frozen Love" and "Storms" in the same show, my heart would stop.

Not a bad way to go!

:angel:


(To hear Stevie and Lindsey do an acoustic, "Landslide"-like rendition of "That's Alright"....that would cause a lesser, but not fatal, cardiac moment!)

Frozen Love!!!!

Actually Stevie does sing Dreams, Rhiannon and even Silver Springs in the original key... however, she does drop some of the higher notes. If anything, I think Stevie could probably pull this one off if she sang the Lindsey harmony part and gave the original Stevie part to Sharon. I truly doubt she could sing her original part.

As for older songs that should be brought back into the set... why isn't "Don't Let Me Down Again" being done? I can just picture hearing this one sandwiched between "Stand Back" and "Go Your Own Way." It's such a fun, high-energy song. I loved hearing this on the Tango tour.

Hey guys, just thought of something. I know I wanted Frozen Love but didn't FM perform Frozen Love years ago? Anyone know for sure?

yes, they did perform Frozen Love early on in 1975. How many times? I don't know, but I think it was never a regular part of their set. I do have 2 different performances of it, though.

Thanks PenguinHead! Now I won't be up half the night wondering.

:)

It would be easy to perform on stage. I still don't understand why they don't...well, maybe it is because of they're setlist already does include some slow songs. But in my opinion, adding "Storms" to any setlist could do nothing but improve it. It's like what they did with "Beautiful Child" on this tour...


-- Jason :)

I think Stevie could really bring down the house with a searing rendition of "Smile at You" or she and Lindsey with, "Everybody Finds Out." I also think it would be really cute if she and Lindsey did a bluegrassy version of "I Don't Wanna Know" to replace "Never Going Back Again." :nod:

Buckingham Nicks did "I Don't Want To Know" at the infamous "Final Show" in Birmingham, Alabama.

Read either Bob Aguirre's or Hoppy Hodge's Q&A (can't remember exactly which had it) for the set list...a few surprises!

Personally I'd LOVE to hear "Sara" but I know she won't sing it. I also agree "I Don't Wanna Know" would be incredible as would "Crystal" but I like the version with Lindsey on vocals - or they could do it together which is would be beautiful.

Has the setlist changed at all from first leg of tour? I am disappointed RTTG was taken out.

Lauren

The set list, apparently, is set in stone. I agree -- dropping Running Through The Garden after the first show, and Destiny Rules after several more shows was a huge disappointment. Listening to that first Columbus show, RTTG sounded amazing, and the audience response sounded huge.

You think that they would have changed it somewhat, knowing that they were coming around to play for audiences who had already seen/heard that show/set already.

And when was the last time they actually played Sara? I think it was back in 1988 with the Billy Burnette/Rick Vito band...and even then, it was performed very rarely. Supposedly, out of the blue, they actually opened one show with it. Does anyone know about that? I wonder what circumstances precluded that wacky (but welcome) decision??

Huh? Duh? A large part of the charm of that song is the two-part harmony between Lindsey and Stevie! If anything, Sharon could fill in as a third voice, adding the high key harmonies that everyone seems to think that Stevie can't attain. Or have them do what they do in a lot of old songs...drop a key...How can anyone reasonable expect them to fully recreate the studio version anyway! That would be like wishing for a time machine. They can do that song! They can do any song they want to -- it just takes a little adapting to compensation for 25 years worth of living. And they do that at every show!

How do you know that? Not enough production? What does that mean?

That's a debunked urban myth. People thought Fleetwood Mac's final performance of "Sara" was at the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City, NJ, on November 16, 1990. They thought the band actually opened with it. Finally, back in 1999 on the Mac newsgroup, a reg named John (Fntom99) posted to the thread to say that he saw that show & that they opened with the "In the Back of My Mind/The Chain" medley, & that they didn't play "Sara" at any point.

So I think the last performances of "Sara" were on the European 1988 tour -- Sweden, London, Germany.

Urban myths die hard, though. This particular one is still making the rounds on Web boards. I saw it on a message board yesterday.

Plus, it doesn't help that Nicksfix has the following listed under the BTM setlist section:

So that's not exactly helping the situation. :rolleyes:

Ever since I first saw that, I didn't believe they opened one show with Sara. That kind of "mixing it up" is completely out of character for any incarnation of this band since the Rumours tour. Even then, they didn't alter anything too drastically.

As for songs I'd like to hear, I'd love to see them try Thrown Down or Smile At You, although I don't really think either one would translate that well live. EFO would be fun and I think could work...Storms could work along the lines of BC.

I dunno, I wish they would just attempt some of these. They might be pleasantly surprised with something.

"I Don't Want To Know" is a great song - I vote that they bring that one into the mix.

Barbara

It's simply that Storms is mostly just acoustic guitar with maybe a little keyboard...I haven't heard it for a while and I rarely listen to it, but I know it doesn't have a lot of instrumentation going on. Kind of like Landslide I guess. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the song is stripped down...they didn't do some elaborate studio thing that mixes all these different things together like Everybody Finds Out, which is why I think they won't do this song. I don't think it's a LACK of production, it's just that they didn't do a lot with the song.

I don't think that they ever for a moment thought about including "Storms" in this live show. Which is an absolute SHAME because it is probably the best song Stevie ever wrote and it should be perfomed live. This theory is only massively supported by the fact that she pulled out "Beautiful Child" ( a ****ing masterpiece in its own right), and it has been the {STUNNER-HIT} of the tour.

I disagree. "Storms" can be best served by the current FM tour environment. THEY HAVE THREE FANTASTIC GUITARISTS??!! Could you imagine Carlos Rios, Neale Heywood and Lindsey sitting on stools (or pillows- whatever) playing all the intricate parts to "Storms", with Stevie singing???? Broken hearts......

I couldn't have said this better myself.... 'Nuff said, my friends. Stevie needs to get a clue and get into that energy. I remember in L.A. when she did "Fall From Grace" and it was alllllll 1975 Rhiannon all over again (KILLER!!!). I think EFO would be the artistic "jones" that would push her over the top on this tour.

Jake, I don't think at this point that Stevie would have ANY problem with singing "Fireflies"- and they definitely should do it. Why the f*ck they haven't done "Crystal" at this point is completely beyond me....
:shrug:


This BLOWS!!!!! Stevie obviously does not have the confidence to continue playing new material. I've read it in interviews and I've heard it from her mouth. Why would she prefer to **** up a great song like "Gypsy" (where she won't even sing the bridge) instead of introducing something that would inspire her ("Everybody Finds Out" or "Running Through the Garden")???? I just don't believe in that.... When I saw Stevie during the Enchanted tour, the most magickal moment for me was when she sang "Garbo".... I was FLOORED!!!! Along with "Rose Garden". I don't know what to say..............


I just want more good songs live.... is that so wrong????

:distress: :laugh: :distress: :D

It's not wrong. If agreeing with you is wrong...I don't want to be right (lol...wasn't that song?!)

You hit all the right points. I feel your pain.

I don't want to be a nag, but you completely contridict yourself. (I guess the lawyer in me is coming out).

You say Storms wouldn't be appropriate live because it's so stripped down like Landslide?? With that you're essentially saying that Landslide wouldn't be good live! lol And what's wrong with a spare acoustic, intimate song? Does every concert song have to be a big production? Sometimes less is more!

Regarding Everybody Finds Out...One of the probable reasons they haven't performed this song is because of all the "elaborate studio thing that mixes all these different things together."

Songs live
 

I would like to hear Crystal (but I also prefer the Lindsey version from the B/N album). It would be great as a duet! She could do Seven Wonders and several of her rockers from the Say You Will album. And of course, FROZEN LOVE!!! Basoon and all!

One thing I like about live shows is the possibility of rearrangement. If a band plays all of their songs EXACTLY as they did in the studio for the album, I could just listen to the cd. I love how Lindsey "redoes" some of his songs for concerts...it is fresh, e.g. Big Love, Go Insane, etc. So, no matter the production elements on an album, a song can ALWAYS be played live, even if it is just an acoustic version or however else they would like to present it. Heck, they could even try Hold Me again but done a different way!!!! I would love that!

Does anyone know why some of the songs were removed from the setlist following a few performances? Or why Stevie doesn't want to sing Sara?

Oh, I think I read some time back about how Stevie didn't like "I Don't Want to Know" because it was used on Rumours as a replacement for "Silver Springs". Is that true?

Thanks.