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mylittledemon 09-25-2003 12:53 AM

one reason WHY Mirage DVD was Never Released!?
 
Why was the Mirage Concert never comercially released on DVD? Well it's 2am and I'm up late watching the import DVD I got on ebay. It's not bad quality. The sound is great and the picture is so-so. I've got component cables so the picture is fairly sharp! Anyhow...I realized something that I'd never seen before...

Here goes...you know the part after Stevie is screaming the ending to "Sisters of the Moon"? The "speaking in tongues" as some people call it? Well she does two or three little quick spins, and I swear to God you can see her ass. Looks like she's wearing the thigh highs that go all the way up, but it's definitely the bottom of her ass you're seeing!

How's that for a keen eye?

tommer 09-25-2003 01:25 AM

"You only see what your eyes want to see/
How can life be what you want it to be"

dissention 09-25-2003 02:11 AM

I never noticed that. However, I think the reason that it's never been released is because Sony doesn't want to bother with it. HBO owns the broadcasting rights, but Sony owns the distribution rights. :)

strandinthewind 09-25-2003 09:13 AM

That panty/crotch revealing and listing spin is my all time fav. of many fav. Stevie cracked out moments :cool:

mylittledemon 09-25-2003 10:09 AM

I wasn't seeing things. It's really in there. And I'm only saying that may be ONE of the reasons why.

tommer 09-25-2003 10:35 AM

and maybe it's because of this horrendous cut in the middle of this particular song. a video editor who makes such mistakes must be executed or something.
i just watched it 7 times right now, still, it's the most electrifying nicksness captured on video in my opinion.
paused it, rewinded it, played, paused, frame-by-framed it, paused again, no. no butt there.

mylittledemon 09-25-2003 12:52 PM

Yes it is
 
Uh, I've watched it several times. I've seen this video over and over. GET the DVD and watch it. It IS in there. Right after she does the weird yelling part at the end of the song she twirls away from the mic and you can see her ass. I'm not dreaming, and you're blind.

wetcamelfood 09-25-2003 01:25 PM

PERVS R US
 
OK, you guys got me interested so I checked it out on the DVD too :) and I do see "something" on that part but I'm not sure, I think it may just be the dark strip of fabric that's usually up near the top of the leg parts of most nylon stockings.

That is just my guess though, I'd be interested to hear other opinions. :) I think dissention is right about it being more of a legal rights thing as to why it's not on DVD in the US (yet :) ) and not because of some "oops nudity" deal but who knows?!

Now that I think of it, I remember Lindsey saying something at the "Purple rain" premere party on MTV (that a friend showed me that they had on video when interviewed) that he doesn't like nudity so maybe it is HE who doesn't like Stevie being naked in it... :)

John

strandinthewind 09-25-2003 01:31 PM

Re: PERVS R US
 
I always thought she was wearing flesh colored pantyhose/dancer's tights because her outfit is diaphenous (sp.?) with the stage lighting. Also, I cannot imagine she would not be wearing any underwear or at least stockings with those boots. But, stranger things have happened. :cool:

kportercpa 09-25-2003 01:35 PM

hey guys - i'm new to this board; can someone help me get a copy of this Mirage DVD? i remember seeing the concert on HBO when i was very young. would love to see it.

many thanks

wondergirl9847 09-25-2003 01:37 PM

LMAO!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
I remember Lindsey saying something at the "Purple rain" premere party on MTV (that a friend showed me that they had on video when interviewed) that he doesn't like nudity so maybe it is HE who doesn't like Stevie being naked in it.
This thread is interesting!! :laugh: He doesn't like nudity in what, movies or in general? LOL

BTW, her dress DOES twirl up alot and I think you catch peek of her panties, but I don't recall seeing booty. LOL I'll have to go watch it again and "suffer" through watching Lindsey do his stuff sans underwear....or so they say. ;)

dissention 09-25-2003 01:47 PM

That's odd, Lindsey always struck me as a very sexual being. :laugh: He likes to perform without his skivvies on, loves to simulate bedroom noises on-stage, writes songs about...you know, and is rarely found without a half-way open shirt. ;)

I've watched the Mirage video over and over and over through the years and never saw one ass cheek. Stevie doesn't strike me to be the kind that would go without undies, that's Lindsey's arena. Thank god his fly has always stayed zipped up.

The only problem with the argument that it's because of Stevie's butt cheek that it never was put on DVD is that it's already been released on video. If there was a butt, it could easily be edited out. Also, the band would have no say in whether it got released again; they don't own the rights, Sony does and Sony is not affiliated with their record company at all.

strandinthewind 09-25-2003 02:00 PM

For some reason, this thread reminds me of the scene from Postcards from the Edge where Shirley McLaine's character screams "IT TWIRLED UP" refering to her skirt at her yound daughter's birthday party. Meryl Streep's character )the now older young daughter) says "Yea, but you weren't wearing any underwear!!!" and then Shirley McLaine's character makes an expression like "you are so picky."

:laugh:

wetcamelfood 09-25-2003 02:50 PM

Re: LMAO!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by wondergirl9847
This thread is interesting!! :laugh: He doesn't like nudity in what, movies or in general? LOL
LOL! Well, I think it was Mark Goodman asking him about "Purple rain" as they were about to go in and Lindsey said something like "I understand (PR) has a lot of violence and nudity which I'm not big on but..." so it just came to mind when I was typing last time, just thought it was funny. :)

Ah, Strand, I DID think of the "TWIRLED UP!" PFTE quote/scene too, I had forgotten to add that to my last post here. I love Shirley's "WELL..." after Meryl's underwear punchline remark. :)

John

Livia 09-25-2003 02:52 PM

I always thought we were seeing Stevie's leotard-covered tushie, not exactly "panties." I.e., she's wearing cotton-crotch tights, with a leotard over them.

:wavey:

wetcamelfood 09-25-2003 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kportercpa
hey guys - i'm new to this board; can someone help me get a copy of this Mirage DVD? i remember seeing the concert on HBO when i was very young. would love to see it.

many thanks

Hi there and welcome. :)

Well, I just checked ebay and I could only find one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&category=618

I wonder if someone (not necessarily here) snitched so that Sony (or whoever) found out, got upset and instructed ebay to take down any auctions selling it (since these are probably only really just supposed to be sold in retailers outside the US)? Just a guess.

I still agree with dissention about this not being released on DVD in the US due to a legal issue/rights more than a nudity one but it has made for some fun talk. :)

Maybe people are just snapping them up fast at ebay but there were a handful there to bid on when I got mine a month ago or so. Hopefully they'll be more in soon (if you don't get this above linked one).

Hope that helps anyways. :)

John

tommer 09-25-2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by mylittledemon
I'm not dreaming, and you're blind.
blind my ass.

look closer, where exactly can you see a butt there? that's her dress!

the defence rests, your honor.

gypsysara 09-25-2003 04:25 PM

LOL, that pic IMO is a definite Marilyn Monroe moment.

dissention 09-25-2003 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tommer
blind my ass.
:laugh: Pun intended? :laugh:

I don't see any ass cheeks in that picture and I've never seen any on the concert. If there were an exposed cheek, we'd all know about, just like we know about Lindsey playing without any undies on.

estranged4life 09-25-2003 04:54 PM

Actually...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
Hi there and welcome. :)

Well, I just checked ebay and I could only find one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&category=618

I wonder if someone (not necessarily here) snitched so that Sony (or whoever) found out, got upset and instructed ebay to take down any auctions selling it (since these are probably only really just supposed to be sold in retailers outside the US)? Just a guess.

I still agree with dissention about this not being released on DVD in the US due to a legal issue/rights more than a nudity one but it has made for some fun talk. :)

Maybe people are just snapping them up fast at ebay but there were a handful there to bid on when I got mine a month ago or so. Hopefully they'll be more in soon (if you don't get this above linked one).

Hope that helps anyways. :)

John

I saw that DVD on the shelf at BESTBUY recently...Makes ya wonder doesnt it? (Btw, It had a label on it stating it was an "Import"...Yeah, Imported bootleg from Brazil!)

Brian j.

Carlene 09-25-2003 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dissention
just like we know about Lindsey playing without any undies on. [/B]

Are we referring to the Mirage concert as well? If so, then we're on the same page. (And I thought I was the only one who took notice of that! :cool: ) How did I ever miss THAT topic of conversation?!

Is there a "panting smiley" by chance?!?!

EveryHour 09-25-2003 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Livia
I always thought we were seeing Stevie's leotard-covered tushie, not exactly "panties." I.e., she's wearing cotton-crotch tights, with a leotard over them.

:wavey:

I've always noticed the butt-view, but I definitely feel these are the circumstances. It's DEFINITELY not bare skin!

I realize some of you may enjoy;) the view, but it's not like something obscene is going on...it's just an ass afterall. Comes with the territory of being a twirling goddess! I like the Marilyn Monroe references...that is definitely Stevie's Marilyn Moment.

mylittledemon 09-25-2003 11:03 PM

Stevie's Tush
 
I NEVER said it was bare skin guys...good Lord...remember I never started the argument (Tommer!). I just stated what i saw. And it IS there...PERIOD. I've seen it OVER & OVER. I can see her ass. She is wearing thigh highs or something covering it of course but I can see it! I don't think some black hole opened up and plopped the only copy of the Mirage DVD with Stevie's ass right into my lap. Get a magnifying glass.

wetcamelfood 09-26-2003 08:02 AM

Re: Actually...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by estranged4life
I saw that DVD on the shelf at BESTBUY recently...Makes ya wonder doesnt it? (Btw, It had a label on it stating it was an "Import"...Yeah, Imported bootleg from Brazil!)

Brian j.

Really? Geez, I should check my local Best Buy to see if they have any in stock, I'd be interested to see if they have it in even though I already have a copy.

Well, I guess many of us have different ideas as to what constitues a "bootleg" but I can't see a big retailer like Best Buy selling what many would class as a "bootleg" so I'm pretty convinced now that, though an import, it is legit (or well, legit enough for me anyways). :)

John

estranged4life 09-26-2003 08:46 AM

Re: Re: Actually...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
Really? Geez, I should check my local Best Buy to see if they have any in stock, I'd be interested to see if they have it in even though I already have a copy.

Well, I guess many of us have different ideas as to what constitues a "bootleg" but I can't see a big retailer like Best Buy selling what many would class as a "bootleg" so I'm pretty convinced now that, though an import, it is legit (or well, legit enough for me anyways). :)

John

The past 2 weeks I have seen "Imports" (Brazilian bootlegs) of the following DVD's:

Fleetwood Mac-Mirage '82

Queen-Live At Wembley '86 (Same as the VHS release from 1992...Not to be confused with the new "Officially released" 2 disc set which is AWESOME!!!)

Queen-Greatest Flix II (My wife bought me a copy of this DVD a few months ago...Great looking video, But the audio is not 5.1 as stated)

Guns N Roses-Use Your Illusion World Tour 2-Live In Tokyo

I also saw the "Paul McCartney-In The New World" ("Import") DVD at a local Wal-Mart...

Brian j.

sara1998 09-26-2003 12:09 PM

Re: Stevie's Tush
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mylittledemon
I NEVER said it was bare skin guys...good Lord...remember I never started the argument (Tommer!). I just stated what i saw. And it IS there...PERIOD. I've seen it OVER & OVER. I can see her ass. She is wearing thigh highs or something covering it of course but I can see it! I don't think some black hole opened up and plopped the only copy of the Mirage DVD with Stevie's ass right into my lap. Get a magnifying glass.
LOL!:laugh: I can't believe we're even talking about this!

Maria


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