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rhianntp 09-01-2003 08:22 PM

Here comes the sun
 
I asked this long ago.. but does anyone have a movie clip of Lindsey playing Here Comes the Sun on New Years... I have a n mp3 of it.. but would love to see him play it .. please please if anyone has ever seen it or knows where to get it :)

Mad4stevie 09-01-2003 11:51 PM

I don't have a video, but I think the MP3 I have is a short one. Does a full version exist?

rhianntp 09-02-2003 12:20 AM

yes.. I have a full version of it... very powerful

chiliD 09-02-2003 03:07 PM

Lindsey's "Here Comes The Sun"...{gag}...awful.

stefan 09-02-2003 03:56 PM

Yes, Chili D is right. It's incredibly tacky- especially the last part. The singing is completely out of tune. This is probably the only Lindsey song/performance that I really hate.

shackin'up 09-02-2003 04:04 PM

Ho, stop, guys!!!

I disagree. Although I love the original, AND Steve Harley's version (speak about out-of-tune-singing:D ) I just have to give lindsey credit for morphing this song into a typical Lindsey Buckingham performance. Going crazy vocally and putting in very direct emotion. Maybe over the top, but he did it heartfelt, not cheap.

I love it.

chiliD 09-02-2003 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shackin'up
I just have to give lindsey credit for morphing this song into a typical Lindsey Buckingham performance.
That's one of the reasons I think it is crap. It is one thing to take a song and "make it your own", but considering this was supposedly a "TRIBUTE TO GEORGE" performance, I'd expect something a little more true to Harrison's original.

Had he just been doing a "Lindsey" thing, it probably would be a little more passable to make those drastic changes.

shackin'up 09-03-2003 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chiliD
That's one of the reasons I think it is crap. It is one thing to take a song and "make it your own", but considering this was supposedly a "TRIBUTE TO GEORGE" performance, I'd expect something a little more true to Harrison's original.

Had he just been doing a "Lindsey" thing, it probably would be a little more passable to make those drastic changes.

Ah, Chili, I understand what you mean now. For me it works the other way round: I Like what he did with the song. In the second thought I put in the goal: make it a George tribute. Yes When I think of it: it's a bit snobistic. But hey...Isn't that what he is? :laugh:

wondergirl9847 09-03-2003 03:11 PM

I don't have it...
 
I *thought* I had it, but I looked just now and don't. Sowee. :(

Now, Gerald...is snobistic a word? LMAO!!

He's a Californian, aren't they ALL snobs? Hehe. KIDDING all Californians!!!!

I was taken aback by the song, because he sounded really strained vocally but I think he was angry because of the incident that happened prior and he was trying to forget that and concentrate on the fact this was about George and not him. Then again, what the frick do I know. :shrug:

I had not heard the original prior to LB's version so I took it as a new song and his guitarwork was PHENOMINAL on the song..and I think George would have enjoyed hearing Lindsey's take on his song. They were on friendly terms, no? I'm sure most musicians respect all other musicians.

Lemme just add that Lindsey is NOT George, so why try to do the song like George did? :confused:

rhianntp 09-03-2003 09:27 PM

I think its wildly creative and an interesting emotional spin on a great old song that really defined george harrison.....to me this performance just shows how great the song actually was that it can lend itself to such tangents... lindsey understood this.. and I'm sure george would have been honored... this sounds to me like this was one of lindsey's favorite beatles songs... and he just really wanted to make it explode and show another side of it....
its a tribute to george for sure.. what greater honor than to have someone love your song enough to want to remake it into something else..

Cristian 09-03-2003 10:00 PM

I'm in the "this was an awful performance - never do it again please" group. Awful, awful.


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CarneVaca 09-04-2003 10:01 AM

Let's keep in mind the context: Lindsey has developed this style of playing that, while based on very traditional picking styles, is really a unique style now. So he wanted to apply that to this song, as he did with Trying for the Sun.

Second, it seems to me a lot of people have got hung up on the anguish in his performance. Here Comes the Sun is a sunny song, not agony. But if you look at it that way, you're missing a big part of the context. George had just died and, therefore, the message of "Here Comes the Sun" takes on a different meaning.

Context.

David 09-04-2003 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rhianntp
I think its wildly creative and an interesting emotional spin on a great old song that really defined george harrison.....to me this performance just shows how great the song actually was that it can lend itself to such tangents.
As I frequently do when it comes to Lindsey, I admire the conception of the performance more than the actual execution.

strandinthewind 09-04-2003 03:57 PM

I think that is great if his performance of this song spoke to people. It did not do so to me. To me, this song would have worked better for him if he would have strummed his guitar and sang in a lighter voice like the original song. I think anguish could still have been portrayed.

strandinthewind 09-04-2003 05:48 PM

Tampering with Beatles is probably a big gamble. If it works - great. If not . . . .

Good examples of why not to tamper with great songs by great groups:

Satisfaction - Devo

Satisfaction - Brittany Spears

Landslide - Smashing Pumpkins and Dixie Chicks (altough not as bad by comparison)

Food for Thought! :laugh:

wondergirl9847 09-04-2003 06:01 PM

Not a Beatles fan...
 
So, I was okay with it....and I get really tired of hearing they are "holier" than any other band out there.

I like hearing different people take on FM songs, even the crappy versions (Smashing Pumpkins, Hole and Dixie Chicks...*shudder*). Like Stevie said, "cha-ching" everytime they play it, so yay for her! I'd love for other people to redo my songs, put a new spin on it...plus, CHA-CHING!! LOL

strandinthewind 09-04-2003 07:06 PM

Re: Re: Not a Beatles fan...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by trackaghost
I happen to love Devo's version of Satisfaction by the way.
I like it too. However, I think we are in the minority :laugh:

Another cover I love is Dolly Parton's cover of "Stairway to Hevean" - but in my book Dolly can do no wrong.

Also, did you know that Mick Jagger actually like Brittany's cover. http://www.dotmusic.com/news/June2001/news20664.asp

Go figure!!!

Once again, it all boils down to individual taste :cool:

Cour 09-04-2003 07:19 PM

Just adding my 2 cents....I loved his version of Here Comes The Sun.

wondergirl9847 09-04-2003 07:39 PM

Me too!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Another cover I love is Dolly Parton's cover of "Stairway to Heaven" - but in my book Dolly can do no wrong.

Once again, it all boils down to individual taste :cool:

I love her version too!!

AMEN to individual taste too!! :thumbsup:

rhianntp 09-04-2003 09:26 PM

this is cool that we are discussing who likes it .. but my original intent was to find someone who has a video clip of the performance.. im dyin to see how he played it and his expressions.... :) anyone? please ;)

Cour 09-04-2003 11:37 PM

Some of the fan sites that post videos take requests so maybe you can ask one of them to show the performance.

shackin'up 09-05-2003 05:17 AM

.....
 
....and i like smashing pumpkins' cover of landslide. it just has a complete other feel, although the stayed very close to the original.

I used to mix them, when i was a DJ in a club. first corgan ( who was very hip early/halfway 90's, and then mac,s original, (very unhip). Al thouse grungies on the dancefloor staring at the floor slowly waving with their hair on that corgansong that suddenly became a FM-song. They didn't mention that until the end of the song.hehehehe......

AND I like Hole's Goldustwoman, too. But please don't get me started on the Dixiechicks. Emotionkilling.

CarneVaca 09-05-2003 08:14 AM

Not sure why people are so down on the Dixie Chicks' version of Landslide. I give them credit for giving it a fresh treatment, which is nicely crafted. I like Hole's Gold Dust Woman too.

There have been a lot of bad Fleetwood Mac covers to be sure, including that Rumours anniversary disk. But there are some gems out there, including the irreverent Camper Van Beethoven's take on Tusk.

It's wonderful to see artists bring new energy and ideas into someone else's song. If I don't like it, I don't listen to it.

sodascouts 09-05-2003 09:35 AM

I normally love to hear Lindsey's elaborate finger-picking style, but in this case, I honestly think he was doing more of a show-off piece of how fancy he could play rather than structuring it as a tribute to George Harrison.

I was prepared to adore it, and I found myself cringing for him, especially at the last part.

And I certainly don't consider the Beatles God's gift to music. I do think that LB got too carried away with himself, though, and lost track of the fact he was supposed to be honoring George's talent and not his own.

And what on earth made him choose a vocal range he couldn't carry off?

The one thing I did like: the little bright strum before and during the first "Here comes the sun" of each chorus. Now THAT seemed to fit.

stefan 09-05-2003 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sodascouts

And what on earth made him choose a vocal range he couldn't carry off?

Exactly that was my point. Wasn`t that the show LB was told not to play so he was upset and threw things, guitars etc. ? If so then maybe the organizers heard him play during the rehearsals. The approach of the song was great and I don`t see a reason not to alter a song simply because it was meant to be a tribute. Then you could carry a cd player on the stage and let it play. But his singing was poor especially on the last part. I can try something during rehearsals but if it doesn`t work out then I leave it. And this truly didn`t work.
Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca

Not sure why people are so down on the Dixie Chicks' version of Landslide. [/B]
Now I didn`t hate the version. It was just unnecessary. I think there are two reasons to make a coverversion of a song. Either I make it better than the original artist did. Or I change the approach completely so that it hardly is the same one. Neither did the D. chicks. The song was very similar but Stevies voice and LB`s playing is special/recognizable and the Chicks had nothing to add. They simply repeated it without spectacular changes and imo lame compared to the original.
The LB version/approach of "Here comes the sun" is so completely different that it hardly is the same song. That is a good reason to make a cover- you can compare it to "Try for the sun" or "Love minus zero". I would love to hear a studio version of HCTS or even a live version with LB singing in his vocal range. But this one really was tacky.

chiliD 09-05-2003 04:09 PM

I will FOREVER stand by my conviction that if you don't like the Beatles (or worse yet, NOT RESPECT their influence on EVERYTHING!) you're damned to purgatory and Hell is just too good a place for you. :lol:

After hearing Lindsey's four Rolling Stones covers (and basically how "true" to the originals they were), I actually was looking forward to "Here Comes The Sun". :shrug:

Lindsey, you "let me down again". tsk, tsk, tsk.

Cristian 09-05-2003 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trackaghost
I'm always disappointed when I hear people wanting stuff to sound "just like the record" live. Listen to the record then or in this case the original.
Not really the case in here. Let's see, I truly respect covers that become quality songs on themselves, without sounding like a copy of the original. Come to think about it, even The Beatles (whose influence, musical quality, as ChiliD posted, is absolutely indisputable... even if you don't like them) did it, transforming oldies like "Twist And Shout" and making them sound in their own style, with excellent results.

I am not complaining about Lindsey changing the style of the song. He could have done it better. That guitar playing style (whatever that's called) simply was not in agreement with the lyrics and the spirit of the song, a "sunny" song as some people said, and the vocal part is completely, absolutely out of Lindsey's range. He had to horribly scream at those last notes. It was really painful, and even more coming from such a gifted guitarist and singer as him. Because his guitar playing and singing was that bad. At least to my tastes.

For the record, I didn't like Paul McCartney's version of "Something" on his last live CD, for more or less the same reason. In both cases, as a huge George Harrison fan, I can appreciate the good intentions of doing a tribute to him. But I can't be "happy" with the results. I think Eric Clapton did a terrific job singing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" at the Tribute Concert. And that was not a copy of the original either... So there you go, matter of tastes, I suppose.




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