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golddustboy71 08-29-2003 06:40 AM

Stevie's SYW tour performances...
 
Hello everyone..Im a new boy!!...Living in London waiting patiently for November ..It will be the first time Ive seen them since Wembly BTM tour, and OSOTM and Tango tours before that..13 years ago !!!!...Anyways I was wondering on such a huge tour does Stevies performace/energy levels vary much from show to show??..after around 70 shows when they reach London Im so hoping they won't have run out of steam ?:) ..any views ?

strandinthewind 08-29-2003 07:17 AM

Hello and welcome. I have seen this concert a three times and have two more performances pending. I think LB "steals the show" on this tour. He absolutely manic in his performances. Stevie is good if not great, but she is seemingly less energetic than in the past probably due in part to her hip, which is said by many to be hurting her. But, she does "take to the sky" in several songs and her vocie is dead on in this show. I thought she was really great - just a little calmer these days. She and LB also still have a lot of chemistry. I hope that helps.

P.S. I love London and wish I got there more often!!!!!!! Sadly, I am obligated to another trip for the London concerts or I would so be there!!!!!!

sodascouts 08-29-2003 09:13 AM

I think it was Stevie who recently implied that the set list would be changed somewhat for the second leg of the tour. I hope she meant it, and I hope she brings back RTTG!

dissention 08-29-2003 10:28 AM

Stevie's performances are great, but I do think they vary show to show. On some shows, she'll just let loose, on others she'll stay in her comfort zone and just sing them without any particular feeling, but it'll still be great. She isn't as energetic, but she is going through menopause, so I won't stone her. LOL :laugh: One thing that I am disappointed in is her lack of interaction with the crowd, though. :(

And they are changing the setlist around?! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!

golddustboy71 08-29-2003 10:37 AM

mmm set list changes..I hope thay ain't going to shorten it for us Europeans ...ie remember the 2 different versions of the very best of CD 1 CD for us 2 CD;'s for the yanks...we can take the full Mac..L

gypsysara 08-29-2003 11:31 AM

Setlist change?
 
THROWNDOWN ~ THROWNDOWN ~ THROWNDOWN ~ THROWNDOWN!

Pagan_RussZsa 08-29-2003 11:37 AM

hi,

I was also worrying about Stevie flagging on arrival in the Uk! The performance i am going to is in Manchester on the 3/12. Even later than those in London...so dont wear her out london! lol

I do believe though that manchester and London will be MASSIVE concerts, as 2 gr8 english cities host the band who originally graced our shores lol

I hope they put Destiny rules back in..does ne1 kno why they dropped it so early on in june????

RUss

Watchdevil22 08-29-2003 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by sodascouts
I think it was Stevie who recently implied that the set list would be changed somewhat for the second leg of the tour. I hope she meant it, and I hope she brings back RTTG!
That's great to hear....when did she imply that?? I must have missed it.

Erin

strandinthewind 08-29-2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Watchdevil22
That's great to hear....when did she imply that?? I must have missed it.

Erin

I think I read somewhere that a DJ for Z93 said Stevie will be on around the time of the 9 /7 concert and Stevie told the DJ that they will have a different set. DISCLAIMER: Old age is setting in - so please do not take my word as law, etc. :cool:

jwd 08-30-2003 10:10 AM

Stevie
 
I think it's more about her voice and her songs, not so much her gymnastic capabilities. She won't be moving around on stage like she used to. If you love to hear Stevie sing and just watch her "stand there", you won't be disappointed. Most who have reviewed the concerts so far have cited "Beautiful Child" as a highlight or THE highlight of the show, myself being one of them. She didn't have to twirl or cut loose to captivate on that number.

Don't worry, Stevie is taking much better care of herself these days. She's a road warrior, she's tough, and the long distance winner! :nod:


You'll have a great time, don't worry.


Joe

gldstwmn 08-30-2003 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Pagan_RussZsa
hi,

I was also worrying about Stevie flagging on arrival in the Uk! The performance i am going to is in Manchester on the 3/12. Even later than those in London...so dont wear her out london! lol

RUss

I'm sure they'll be getting their B-12 shots.:)

strandinthewind 08-30-2003 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by gldstwmn
I'm sure they'll be getting their B-12 shots.:)
LOL - when I saw Mick at the hotel lobby in Dallas prior to the concert he was taking pills. I looked at him and he was like "they are vitamins" the implication being they were not narcotics!!!!!! :laugh: In fact, we king of joked about it for a second!!!!! So, they def. have vitamins!!! :cool:

MacMan 08-31-2003 02:12 AM

I've seen them twice now and based on the early reviews from people on the boards and the media, I didn't know what to expect in terms of Stevies input/energy up on stage.

I have to say, that although Lindsey is the stand out in terms of showmanship, Stevie's not exactly a statue. Her actions are just more subtle now-adays. This was more clear with the second show I saw being within the first 10 rows. She has her moments where she gets down.... And like someone said earlier, her voice this tour is very strong and dead on!

I personally think she's trying not wearing herself out or down, trying to stay strong and healthy knowing they were in for the long haul on this tour.

RavenOfRhiannon 08-31-2003 09:54 AM

I don't think Lindsey steal the show as much as Stevie hands it to him. Stevie is great on stage, during 'Standback' she really cuts loose. Everyone is right, her voice is dead on, and I would rather have her be in a wheelchair and have that voice than do cartwheels and have the voice she had a few years ago...

I think Stevie understands that Lindsey's songs are so very special to him. He's been nurturing them for years and it is such a big deal for him to have rejoined the Mac and just hand over a solo album to them with no rancor. So she is stepping a bit to the side, onstage and also by letting Lindsey do the lion's share of the media...

Randy

golddust 08-31-2003 10:33 AM

~~~I've been to five of the concerts so far with at least four more to come. My thought is that LB produced the album and is "producing" the live performances. Stevie seems very happy with this and as has been stated, she's in fine voice and seems to be thrilled with Lindsey's performances as well as her own. She is older and wiser. Therefore she isn't wearing herself out at the outset of the shows or the tour. That said I think her performances have been dead on brilliant. I too wish she was interacting more with the fans as she does on her solo tors.~~~

Pagan_RussZsa 08-31-2003 11:56 AM

Hi,

I was wondering so far, what is the largest audience of the SYW tour?

I ask because the arena i will see them at in Manchester is the largest indoor in Europe, holding 21,000 at max... The FM concert will be a full arena 'rumour' has it! sorry for that dreadful pun.

I really cant wait til i go...im dying here to see them for the first time!! im in the first 20 rows 2!! hehe :p

Im guessing its gonna be massive!

diamondsnake 02-11-2004 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by sodascouts
I hope she brings back RTTG!
"When Pigs fly!"

I still say Stevie was energetic at my show, in Atlanta. Very energetic, actually. During Stand Back she twirled so fast I thought she was going to fly off the stage.

dissention 02-11-2004 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by diamondsnake
"When Pigs fly!"

I still say Stevie was energetic at my show, in Atlanta. Very energetic, actually. During Stand Back she twirled so fast I thought she was going to fly off the stage.

She seemed a lot more energized during the second leg. Was that when your show was?

David 02-12-2004 12:29 PM

Lucky you
 
Quote:

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I still say Stevie was energetic at my show, in Atlanta. Very energetic, actually. During Stand Back she twirled so fast I thought she was going to fly off the stage.
She's always a nonkinetic dud at the shows I see: last year in Anaheim; in Santa Barbara, Irvine & L.A. in 2001; in Anaheim in 2000; in Irvine & L.A. in 1998; in Mountain View & L.A. in 1997, etc. At all these shows, she just planted herself at her mic, as still as a Georgia oak.

What do I have to do to see her twirl so fast that she almost flies off the stage?

dissention 02-12-2004 12:34 PM

Re: Lucky you
 
Quote:

Originally posted by David
She's always a nonkinetic dud at the shows I see: last year in Anaheim; in Santa Barbara, Irvine & L.A. in 2001; in Anaheim in 2000; in Irvine & L.A. in 1998; in Mountain View & L.A. in 1997, etc. At all these shows, she just planted herself at her mic, as still as a Georgia oak.

What do I have to do to see her twirl so fast that she almost flies off the stage?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

She is rather lethargic these days, but at least she's better than during the TISL tour, dude. Sometimes I wait patiently for the roadies to come out with an intravenous tube for the gal.

diamondsnake 02-12-2004 12:43 PM

Re: Re: Lucky you
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dissention
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

She is rather lethargic these days, but at least she's better than during the TISL tour, dude. Sometimes I wait patiently for the roadies to come out with an intravenous tube for the gal.

About the TISL tour, I heard she had robotic motions. Is this true?

The SYW show I went to was on this first leg, maybe it just seemed like she was really energetic and wild since it was my first FM concert-ever. I was just so excited!

estranged4life 02-12-2004 01:03 PM

Here are the Top 5...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pagan_RussZsa
Hi,

I was wondering so far, what is the largest audience of the SYW tour?

I ask because the arena i will see them at in Manchester is the largest indoor in Europe, holding 21,000 at max...

SYW shows attendance-wise according to Pollstar (I am going by average ticket per show for multiple dates at one arena):

#1-May 19-Philadelphia, PA-First Union Center
16,795

#2-July 1-Oklahoma City, OK-Ford Center
15,674

#3-Nov.29-30 & Dec.10-London, England-Earls Court
15,561 per show average

#4-October 11th-Denver, CO-Pepsi Center
15,480

#5-May 25-East Rutherford, NJ-Continental Airlines Arena
14,822

Brian j.

dissention 02-12-2004 01:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: Lucky you
 
Quote:

Originally posted by diamondsnake
About the TISL tour, I heard she had robotic motions. Is this true?

The SYW show I went to was on this first leg, maybe it just seemed like she was really energetic and wild since it was my first FM concert-ever. I was just so excited!

Well, she's had robotic motions on every tour since '89. It seem slike she does one movement during the first show and it sticks throughout the entire tour, making people think that she's just going through the motions.

Johnny Stew 02-12-2004 02:18 PM

Well, even Lindsey's "manic and spontaneous" actions throughout the tour, were repeated from one show to the next.
From every review I read, it sounded as if he was doing the same routines every night:
"He humped his guitar during the opening of 'Stand Back.'"
"He let me play his guitar."
"He tusked John, then chased Stevie around the stage."

Not saying there's anything wrong with that, but I think they both pretty much "go through the motions" from one night to the next, when it comes to stage antics these days... although I will definitely grant you that Lindsey's are more energetic, and more power to him for that.

Of course, he's also not dealing with menopause, a bad hip, a hole in his sinuses, and a recurring ankle injury... so I'm sure that makes a big difference too. :)

dissention 02-12-2004 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Of course, he's also not dealing with menopause, a bad hip, a hole in his sinuses, and a recurring ankle injury... so I'm sure that makes a big difference too. :)
Then maybe it's time for La Nicks to retire from the road. ;)

strandinthewind 02-12-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
Then maybe it's time for La Nicks to retire from the road. ;)
How else would Lindsey sell his records :eek: :eek: :eek:

(no diatribes please :laugh: )

dissention 02-12-2004 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by strandinthewind
How else would Lindsey sell his records :eek: :eek: :eek:

(no diatribes please :laugh: )

:laugh:

Serioulsy, I don't see how that has to do with being on the road. No one tours to promote their record anymore, they do it for the cash.

strandinthewind 02-12-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dissention
:laugh:

Serioulsy, I don't see how that has to do with being on the road. No one tours to promote their record anymore, they do it for the cash.

How else will Lindsey get people to attend his concerts in a venue that supports his lifestyle?

Better ;) ;)

dissention 02-12-2004 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strandinthewind
How else will Lindsey get people to attend his concerts in a venue that supports his lifestyle?

Better ;) ;)

:laugh:

This is the last hurrah for Mac shows as far as I'm concerned, so it wouldn't matter to me. Anyways, I'd rather see Stevie go away from the stage gracefully instead of retiring once her performances stunk, wouldn't you?

strandinthewind 02-12-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dissention
:laugh:

This is the last hurrah for Mac shows as far as I'm concerned, so it wouldn't matter to me. Anyways, I'd rather see Stevie go away from the stage gracefully instead of retiring once her performances stunk, wouldn't you?

I do not mind these performances, esp. on the second leg. But, yes, I do not see them doing a world tour again as that could not happen until at least 2007. So, I say I need to get my fix while I can!!! :cool:

Johnny Stew 02-12-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dissention
Then maybe it's time for La Nicks to retire from the road. ;)
You know, I actually said about 14 years ago that I wish they'd all retire from touring, and record more freakin' albums!!!
Do two big concerts... film them... release them on VHS & DVD... then get back into the studio!

But then, I'm not a concert-goer, so I guess that's why I feel that way.

For the record, friends of mine who attended 'SYW' shows and early 'TISL' shows (should her performances during and right after her bout with that bronchial infection, and those directly after 9/11, really be held against her?), raved about Stevie's performances.

And my cousin and her husband, who attended the OKC 'SYW' show, still can't stop talking about Stevie.

It's been my experience that it's really only those who've been analyzing her every movement over the past 29 years, who expect more (too much?), and are therefore let down.

Familiarity does breed contempt, they say.

diamondsnake 02-12-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
You know, I actually said about 14 years ago that I wish they'd all retire from touring, and record more freakin' albums!!!
Do two big concerts... film them... release them on VHS & DVD... then get back into the studio!

But then, I'm not a concert-goer, so I guess that's why I feel that way.

For the record, friends of mine who attended 'SYW' shows and early 'TISL' shows (should her performances during and right after her bout with that bronchial infection, and those directly after 9/11, really be held against her?), raved about Stevie's performances.

And my cousin and her husband, who attended the OKC 'SYW' show, still can't stop talking about Stevie.

It's been my experience that it's really only those who've been analyzing her every movement over the past 29 years, who expect more (too much?), and are therefore let down.

Familiarity does breed contempt, they say.

Johnny, I would just like to say that I love your posts. They always have something positive in them.

But dissention, it is obvious you are a Stevie fan, but I have been on this board for almost a year now and I have only heard you criticize Stevie. I swear I haven't seen more then a couple of semi-positive posts about her. I guess it really doesn't matter though.... It just confuses me. :confused:

But I do not want Stevie to retire from the road. I think she is great! Of course, the Stevie I know is the mellow laid back Stevie on the Dance video, when I first became a fan. And that is the Stevie I love.

Johnny Stew 02-12-2004 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by diamondsnake
Johnny, I would just like to say that I love your posts. They always have something positive in them.
Thanks, Christopher.

Life has enough darkness and negativity... so I try to focus on the positives. Makes for a much less miserable existence. :)

dissention 02-12-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by diamondsnake
But dissention, it is obvious you are a Stevie fan, but I have been on this board for almost a year now and I have only heard you criticize Stevie. I swear I haven't seen more then a couple of semi-positive posts about her. I guess it really doesn't matter though.... It just confuses me. :confused:

Duly noted. ;)

Carolina Girl 02-12-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

It's been my experience that it's really only those who've been analyzing her every movement over the past 29 years, who expect more (too much?), and are therefore let down.
I haven't been analyzing her every movement for the past 29 years (I'm barely that old ;), but I have read a lot about her stage antics (for lack of a better word). I saw her on the Enchanted tour, TISL tour, and SYW, and each time she hardly moved from the mic. I'm not being overly critical or over analyzing, it's just a fact, and I was a bit let down after reading so much about how much she supposedly danced and twirled. At this point, I'm not expecting to see her twirl and dance. But I would like to see what she used to be like on stage. Can you recommend a DVD or video that would show that aspect of her performances? So I can see what I missed out on
:)

diamondsnake 02-12-2004 03:01 PM

Did anyone else go to the first Atlanta show this year? I want to know if I just made up in my head Stevie dancing and twirling all night. Maybe I was just so excited, I don't know. Most of that night is like a really good dream- I can't remember that much about it. I do remember a killer Standback, some woman's bra hanging from Lindsey's Mic stand, and an annoying Mick solo. But that is all I remember. That and of course, having the best time of my life! :)

Johnny Stew 02-12-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carolina Girl
I haven't been analyzing her every movement for the past 29 years (I'm barely that old ;), but I have read a lot about her stage antics (for lack of a better word). I saw her on the Enchanted tour, TISL tour, and SYW, and each time she hardly moved from the mic. I'm not being overly critical or over analyzing, it's just a fact, and I was a bit let down after reading so much about how much she supposedly danced and twirled.
I can completely understand that... and I'm not saying that I wouldn't also love to see Stevie "cut loose" more often again.
I became a fan during the 'Rock A Little' era, so those wild, manic performances were part of my vision of who Stevie Nicks is.
But I just think it's better to enjoy what we've got now, and not worry too much about what used to be or what could be. :)

Also... and this is definitely not a criticism towards you... but being that you had read reviews and things about her stage antics, you had a preconceived notion of how Stevie should act. So that's pretty much what I was talking about, when I said we all tend to analyze her actions over the past 29 years.
Not that we've all directly witnessed each of those years, but we've at least all heard about them, or read about them, or watched them on some video... so we have created an idea of how Stevie should act on stage, and want her to live up to that.

Which is why I think my various friends, and my cousins, who didn't have those types of preconceived notions, were so thrilled and impressed by Stevie on these past two tours.
Quote:

Originally posted by Carolina Girl
At this point, I'm not expecting to see her twirl and dance. But I would like to see what she used to be like on stage. Can you recommend a DVD or video that would show that aspect of her performances? So I can see what I missed out on
:)

There are several excellent videos out there, that show off the "Stevie of old."
The best two are probably her 1981 solo concert video, titled 'Stevie Nicks In Concert,' and Fleetwood Mac's 1982 video, 'In Concert: Mirage Tour '82.'

'Red Rocks' is also terrific if you want to Stevie full of spastic energy... though that one features some overdubbed vocals, and separetely filmed close-ups, so not everyone enjoys it.

Carolina Girl 02-12-2004 03:19 PM

Quote:

you had a preconceived notion of how Stevie should act.
True.

Thanks for the tips on the videos. Now to find them and buy them before I need to buy the reissues and my tickets to the upcoming show...

Johnny Stew 02-12-2004 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Carolina Girl
Thanks for the tips on the videos. Now to find them and buy them before I need to buy the reissues and my tickets to the upcoming show...
I should have mentioned that 'Red Rocks' is readily available on DVD.
You shouldn't have much trouble finding that one.

Stevie's 'In Concert' seems to be out of print, but you can find that thru eBay or Amazon.com's Marketplace.

The 'Mirage' concert is also out of print, but can be found on both VHS and DVD thru sources like eBay (although be forewarned that the DVD is an "import," and we haven't been able to determine its legitimacy).

Enjoy! :)

dissention 02-12-2004 03:28 PM

Try Half.com for the 'In Concert' video. it's on there pretty regularly and for CHEAP. I got mine for only two dollars. :)


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