Stevie's next album
 

Stevie has said that she's going to start working on a new album once the Fleetwood Mac tour is over. Since she's gone back into her archives and pulled out old demos like "Planets of the Universe" and "Smile at You" for TISL and SYW, do you guys think that she'll pull a couple of more "oldies" out for her next CD?

I'd love to hear "Watchdevil" get an official release, and maybe "The Dealer." Any thoughts?

If the new solo album doesn't have Space Needle on it, I'm going to be flipping mad! :mad: :nod:

As for other oldies that I'd like to see get the light of day:

-Joan Of Arc
-All the Beautiful Worlds
-Don't Treat Me Like a Stranger (oh, shut up!!)
-Love Don't Fail Me Now
-Baby Doll (even though I don't think Stevie wrote it, it doesn't sound like her)
-At the Fair ("and the beautiful doll, that she wanted...")
-If You Were My Love
-Lady From the Mountain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Sanctuary

Those are some of my favorites!

Space Needle, please. I love it. :nod:

If Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers come in and play on The Dealer, then maybe. Some songs can't be anymore perfect. That's one of them. Julia is a gem. I don't think that performance can be topped, either. I'd love to hear Space Needle. I think Lady From The Mountain could still be done very well. If You Were My Love, too. All The Beautiful Worlds-great but unlikely. City Of Hope-please finish this song. China Doll. Beautiful Ghost-from a time gone by, turned into stone. I'd love to hear the "and now I am doubting and the time is running out, she says still frozen to the ground.." line clearly.

If You Were My Love and Joan Of Arc!!!!!!!!

Both these songs are awesome! :)

Lady from the Mountain (though my favorite version cannot be topped)
Sanctuary
All the Beautiful Worlds
She Still Loves Him (with the SYW Goodbye Baby style vocal)
Do I Bring You Down
Baby Doll
All the King's Horses
The Dealer
Smile at You done the right way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- Jake

Space frickin Needle!!!
 

I love Space Needle to DEATH, as well as The Dealer (although, I DIE everytime I think about how PERFECT for Belladonna it would have been. :( )!!

All the Beautiful Worlds
Forest of the Black Roses (LOVE this song!!)
If You Were My Love
Prettiest Girl in the World
She Calls You Missing

These are my faves of the demos....need to get em all out and listen to em again tho...

You know, Do I Bring You Down isn't Stevie. :laugh:

It's a guy that was experimenting with his toys down in his basement. It makes perfect sense, considering that I never thought it sounded like Stevie. There are a few versions floating around; one is sped up to make it sound more like Stevie, the other is at the tempo it was recorded at with the vocals messed with. :D He was messing around with his equipment, recorded it, and put it onto a Stevie demo tape. When he traded it, it still had his song on it, so it was mistaken for a Stevie tune until last year.

I'd love to see:

All the King's Horses
Are You Mine (a killer duet waiting to happen--yeah, I know she didn't write it, but it's still a great tune)
Baby Doll
The Dealer
Don't Treat Me Like A Stranger
City of Hope
Inspiration

Christy--

Wasn't "She Calls You Missing" from the RAL sessions reworked as "Love Is Like A River" on SA? I haven't listened to the demo in quite awhile, but I remember it had a lot of lyrics from "Love Is Like A River." great demo, though. I love how it starts off with Stevie's voice low in the mix and as the song progresses, her voice gets more and more louder.

Come to think of it, a ton of songs off of SA were outtakes from the RAL sessions. Greta, Rose Garden, Love Is Like A River, Docklands (the demo/outtake I have sounds like the RAL era, but some have it labeled as OSOTM era), Listen To the Rain; I think that's it. Anyone else notice this? :)

I'd love to hear China Doll, All the beautiful Worlds, The Dealer, and Space Needle (with that weird part in the middle somehow revamped though) done most of all.

She must release Space Needle. I am floored it did not make SYW and instead we got SG, DR, and RTTG, which I like, but IMO they are not nearly as complex or good as the song we call Space Needle.

China Doll, Maker of Birds (so romantic), The Dealer, Julia, and Melacine the Witch would all be good for me as well!!!!! I also think Have no Heart and Annabelle Lee could be great as well. Perhaps Stevie should put 18 songs on her next record!!!!!!

:laugh:

Gawd, Space Needle is freaking awesome. I am in love with it; definitely one of the best demos. Except the tar people line, I don't like that. Street language doesn't fit into a Stevie Nicks song. :laugh:

I don't think that Stevie ever intended to put Annabel Lee on a record, I think she just loved the poem so much that she messed around with it to turn it into song. I think she was just having fun with it. Usually if Stevie likes something from literature, she uses the inspiration to write something of her won that references it. But Annabel Lee is one of Poe's best poems. :nod:

What all of you said! LOL! Mainly for me: Space Needle & THE DEALER (although I wonder if this can be done as some awesome versions Ive heard...)

dissention...
 

I have no clue...I don't have SA yet. LOL All I know is that I LOVE the music. "When I want something, I get it" Isn't that from "Whole Lotta Trouble"? The music sounds very Middle Eastern and I think LB could do a cool job remaking it.

I've dug out my Stevie demo CD's and I'm listening to the ones I can't really remember. :laugh:

I love:

Amber

Anybody Out There

Cecelia - very gypsy-ish, and is VERY EXTREMELY reminiscent of SOTM, not the words, the music

Impossible Task - I love the melody of the music in Impossible Task (da da da...dadadada...da da da....dadadada), but her singing is kinda painful on that one. LOL

Annabel Lee - kinda funky. I like the melody she uses.

Have No Heart (dangit. LOL)..this should have been on TISL instead of TFFT or That Made Me Stronger (UGH!!).

She Loves Him Still is beautiful.

Beautiful Ghost is great...sounds very 80's. Coulda been on RAL.

Three Birds of Rhiannon - GORGEOUS, but we already have a Rhiannon. LOL

One More Tomorrow - SOOOO 80's!!!! I love it!!! Sounds like it coulda been in a movie. LOL

The one problem I have with some of Stevie's demos are some sound generic...too similar. Some are just too painful to listen to. LOL

Re: dissention...
 

You got that right. I still haven't gotten through the 15 minute version of Gypsy. I can't seem to get past six minutes! :laugh: But what the demos lack in melody or good vocals, they make up for in ambience and poetry, IMO. :) One demo I can't bear to listen to is Whole Lotta Trouble...PAINFUL!

Shocking to me!
The vocal I have sounds just like RockaStevie!
And the keyboards sound just like Castaway. I think this sounds just like a real demo. Lyrics, too. Maybe we have different versions? Maybe?
Do you have a link to this story breaking? I'm intrigued!

- Jake

It was all over SaraRhiannon when it broke, but now she has a new board and all the info is gone. :( I can't remember if the guy himself posted about it or if someone who helped him make it did, but it isn't Stevie. When moniquerenee.com was up, she had posted both versions, the Stevie-ish vocal and the non-Stevie vocal. What he did was sing the song in his best Stevie voice, then sped it up a little to sound like her. I never thought it sounded like Stevie at all lyrically and the vocal always appalled me. :laugh:

Wasn't that rumour disproven?
The supposedly "real" version (with the deeper, male-sounding voice) is actually the one that was messed with.

I was told that "Do I Bring You Down" was written for inclusion on 'Timespace'... as was 'Listen To The Rain'... but Modern pushed her into using "Sometimes It's A Bitch" and "Love's A Hard Game To Play" instead.

The one song I've always doubted was really Stevie, is "All Over You"... the one she's allegedly singing with Prince.

Wonder if we'll ever know for certain.


As for the original question, I'd love to see....

Without You
Belle Fleur (if Sheryl Crow is producing)
You Like Me (then we'd finally have Stevie's lead vocals on all four songs other people sang instead of her)
She Loves Him Still
Space Needle

Though there are tons of other worthy candidates. :)

Not that I know of. The Timespace rumour has been floating around ever since the tape started making the rounds. It was labeled as a Timespace outtake and started circulating around the time of Timespace's release.

And most Prince fans don't even think All Over You is a Prince song, so who knows...:laugh:

Re: dissention...
 

They're definitely not all gems, that's for sure... but they pretty much all have something cool/worthwhile in them.

I think the deal with many of Stevie's demos... especially the ones where it's just her at the piano... is that we're hearing the songs as Stevie's writing them and developing them.
That sort of "stream of consciousness" thing, where she might play it back later and say, "ok, this part stays... this part goes"... etc., etc.
So it can be a bit of a trial to listen to them.

But so many of the others... wow!
It's enough to drive you crazy, because so many of them SHOULD have been released years ago, not languishing in the vaults somewhere.

Oh, what about Something Exquisite?! I left that out and that's one of my faves. "You cannot win the race if you do not run it..."

LOVE IT! :D

This will probably be yet another debate that will rage amongst the fan community for years to come.

I know some fans who absolutely insist that it isn't her, and that it's definitely a fake... and I know other fans who swear that the "friend of a friend" guy is full of it, and it is a genuine Stevie demo/outtake.

Kinda like the old "is she or isn't she" debate about "Don't Come Around Here No More."

Funny thing, I never even knew about that debate until I started surfing the internet. I was already positive it had to be Stevie, because I could hear her voice in the mix.
And that was just from hearing the song on the radio... I never even knew she was originally supposed to record it!

At least we now know for sure that it is her. :)

Geeeeez! I forgot that one too, and it's one of my favorites as well!

I also forgot "If You Were My Love!"

There are just so many great ones. :)

The "Blue Water" demo is up on www.sararhiannon.com. Now THAT would be cool as an acoustic production with some polishing :cool:

She is! I read somewhere (I'll have to dig out the article for ya) that it was confirmed that she was on the song! I always thought she was anyways. :D

Do you have Tom Petty's boxed set? Well, there is a huge book that comes with it that talks about the recording of the albums and it mentions Stevie and Don't Come Around Here No More. Apparently, Dave Stewart wrote it with her in mind and Tom petty thought that she would love the song and when he presented it to her, she "balked" at the idea of recording it. :laugh: She apparently didn't get along too well with Mr. Stewart. :(

ETA: It was Sharon that confirmed Stevie singing on Don't Come Around... So, both of them are singing on it! :)

Everybody always thought Stevie should have been Alice in the Don't Come Around Here No More video, especially after TOSOTM came out later and given her friendship with Tom.

Strand, I have a bad copy of Blue Water. I really only like the first line, so maybe the song could be improved.

Dissention, I thank you for the story on Do I Bring You Down, but I absolutely insist my version is Stevie! I'll bring it up when we're stuck in the elevator. You know how she loves discussing stolen demos with the fans.:cool: (not cool, incognito)

- Jake

Yea, the demo definitely needs help. I just think her vocal tricks and her harmony with herself and others (?) are cool on the demo I have. I also like the melody and think it could be made more diverse with production.

Then again, Blue Water makes me think of a toilet mint. Maybe it could be used as a jingle in a bowl freshener commercial?

- Jake

Forest of the black roses
Have no heart
Space needle
Joan of arc
The dealer
Sanctuary
Jimmy come back
Dial the number

Plus proper studio versions of

Gold and braid
I need to know

But no not never ... watchdevil, makes me cringe

ENOUGH WITH THE DREGS! WRITE NEW MATERIAL!!! :mad:


(And, for FLEETWOOD MAC, no solo albums anymore, PLEASE!?! Leave them for Rhino to dig through the dustbin to release expanded versions)

I want her next project to be the next FM CD.

With ALL new songs culled from her current journal pages, then collaborated upon with Lindsey.

Ditto for Lindsey, excpet his songs will be on that Four Seasons stationary he likes so much, and the artwork for the next cover shall come from his doddles and caricatures, framed by Stevie's loopy-loos.

Period. Perfect.

-Sharon

LMAO!!! Too funny! :laugh:

Stevie Solo
 

Oh yea she definitely seems to be doing that lately. And I must say a wise decision too. There's too many great oldies to let them stay in the dark. Sorcerer, Planets Of The Universe, Candlebright, Goodbye Baby, Smile At You, Thrown Down, and Running Through The Garden needed to be heard by the masses. Most of these versions turned out better than their demo counterparts. Then again I still want predominantly new material on her next solo lp, especially since she's writing so well again.

My number 1 wish is the realization of the "Rhiannon Project" with all her old Rhiannon related demo songs on it along with some new ones too to make it more contemporary. Now that would be awesome!!

Like a lot of you I really need to hear Space Needle. I loved that demo and was disappointed on not hearing it on SYW. I'd like to see Annabell Lee find its' way on one of her records too.

Stevie should keep doing her solo albums. She still has to much to give to be confined to Fleetwood Mac. Lindsey works wonders with her but I feel like he only taps a certain dimension. She needs to work with John Shanks again at some point.


Joe

Ah, but chili, she still has too many incredible songs that have yet to be released!

I most definitely want new material too... but I also want a nice sprinkling of the vaulted material included as well.
Don't forget that it's our fault that we're all so familiar with these songs.
And I, for one, love finally having "official" versions.

As for the solo vs Fleetwood Mac thing... I want a new Mac album ASAP, but I highly doubt that the band will go straight from the road back into the studio.
No matter how enthusiastic Lindsey remains about doing another Mac album, the man is going to take time off.
As will Mick & John.

So instead of there being nothing in the meantime, I want a new Stevie solo album.

But... I hope she doesn't tour for any length of time.
Release the album, do a few shows in the California area, then get back to the studio with Fleetwood Mac!

Re: Stevie Solo
 

I couldn't agree more, Joe! :)

Oh, I definitely want to hear mostly new material on her next album. I agree that her writing is better now than it has been in a long time. I just think, like some of the others here, that she has too many great unreleased songs to not let them see the light of day, and I'm glad she's been releasing some of them on her last couple of projects.

As far as a new Mac album/tour, I have my suspicions that this is going to be the last one. I can see Stevie releasing another solo album and doing one more tour, but beyond that...I don't know.

She Still Loves Him
If You Were My Love
Sanctuary
Spinning Wheels
Lady From The Mountain
All The King's Horses
Castaway
WatchDevil
The Dealer


I'm not wanting too much, am I?!:)
There goes half the album

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
I cannot afford California.

- Jake

I have a feeling that if the Mac folds, she'll go solo sporadically but also join another group - maybe the Heartbreakers, maybe form a new one with Sheryl.

- Jake