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mike_nh 06-16-2003 10:20 AM

vh1 access
 
I think it was an incredible show. I really hope mick will put out
those ''lost tapes'' from 1977. it was also intresting to see stevie
get angry.

Josh2003 06-16-2003 10:24 AM

It is going to be on tonight at 11, but VH1 is also showing it right now.

This footage of the recording of Say You Will is unreal. Stevie playing with that singing fish...priceless. And Lindsey telling Stevie he was going to cry. Wow.

Can't wait until tonight, so that I can watch ALL of this, instead of just the last 15 minutes!

Sally 06-16-2003 10:36 AM

I hope anybody not wanting spoilers reads this thread---I'm not going to spoily mc spoilerson anything else (I'm being nice? :))

*spoiler space*
















So...holy crap. I can't wait for this DVD documentary to come out. I agree with Josh...when Lindsey was talking to Stevie and was going to cry...HOLY CRAP.

Mick even amused me. And John had some amazing one liners.

And Stevie talking about her black wardrobe..."...black just makes you look slimmer. Da da da!" I was laughing so much, it was just perfect.

At one point Stevie's up on the couch complaining that Lindsey "won't like her song because SHE WROTE IT" it was cute.

Only drawback....it was only 1/2 hour! Boooooooo!

There were parts that were never revisited, like clips when Stevie said something to the effect of "this isn't art, this is financial." I was so intrigued...who was she talking about? ;)

And in the credits, (it went by fast) Stevie hugs Lindsey after the Columbus show (which they highlight because it was the first one)...she's in the pink shawl and stuff, it was sweet.

strandinthewind 06-16-2003 10:36 AM

If you go here

http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/vh1_all.../episode.jhtml

and then click on

_______________________________________________
Stevie, Mick, Lindsay, & John

Discussing their decision to go back on the road and record their latest album Say You Will.
_______________________________________________

you can watch what I presume is a sniglet of the show. They are talking about going on the road. SN says if you want to to all hits during the concert, they why put out a new record. It is a pretty cool interview in which all four speak (John says we four - used to be five - have this chemistry). Finally, could Stevie's top be any cooler (I think that is dragon on it ? ) :cool:

GardenStateGirlie 06-16-2003 10:39 AM

That was pretty freaking fabulous!!! I had low expectations of that show and I must admit, it totally exceeded what I had initially thought. And yes, I've never really thought of them as anything but normal people with a lot of money and amazing jobs but this really humanizes them even more-so than ever before. If you guys didn't catch it this morning, make sure you watch it tonight...it's really good and there is SO much more for us to look forward to this year but I won't spoil it for those of you who'd rather be surprised and watch the show for yourself tonight...all i'll say is THANK YOU LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM :nod:

golddustchic 06-16-2003 10:45 AM

OH i completely agree...what a great show! I was so glad that they didn't dwell so much on the whole Rumours thing like most of these shows normally do...and some of that old footage was so great! Of course, some of us have already seen a lot of it(from the Rumours tour in Japan) And that part where Lindsey is starting to cry, how great is that? Oh yeah, and the part when Stevie said that when she's 80 and Lindsey's 79, she'll be chasing him around with her walker...that was so cute!

And I second that GardenStateGirlie...Thank you SO MUCH LindsEy Buckingham!

Sally 06-16-2003 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by strandinthewind
If you go here

http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/vh1_all.../episode.jhtml

and then click on

_______________________________________________
Stevie, Mick, Lindsay, & John

Discussing their decision to go back on the road and record their latest album Say You Will.
_______________________________________________

you can watch what I presume is a sniglet of the show. They are talking about going on the road. SN says if you want to to all hits during the concert, they why put out a new record. It is a pretty cool interview in which all four speak (John says we four - used to be five - have this chemistry). Finally, could Stevie's top be any cooler (I think that is dragon on it ? ) :cool:

None of that made the show! Thanks, strand! (And yeah, I was staring at that shirt trying to figure out what was on it...it is totally kool!)

strandinthewind 06-16-2003 12:49 PM

I tried to save the sniglet to my hard drive but was told I could do it. Does anyone know how to do that?

Also, Stevie is once again being filmed with a HUGE key light directly in front of her (this reduces age and lines in the face) , is also flawlessly lit from just about every other angle, and there may be a little oil on that lens :cool:

Conversely, John, Mick, and LB look like they are being flimed in a cafeteria lit by flourescant lights when compared to the glowing penumbra around La Nicks :laugh:

Gotta Love Her!!!!!!

deribish 06-16-2003 01:20 PM

Yep.
That was pretty much the best Fleetwood Mac documentary ever. Most of specials just rehash the same of footage, and the same old concerts... But we saw new and vintage stuff that is rarely -if ever - seen. Quick and concise and very funny too. Really gives MORE intrigue to an already fascinating band!
-Derek

Johnny Stew 06-16-2003 02:09 PM

This was great... I really enjoyed it. Though I have to echo the "it wasn't long enough" statements.
For Fleetwood Mac fans, too much is never enough.

I really hope the 'Making of Say You Will' documentary sees the light of day, as well as the "basement tapes."
We'd be discussing/debating/analyzing those for YEARS here on The Ledge! :laugh:

I wonder which song Stevie was saying she just knew Lindsey wouldn't like.
Who wants to bet it was "Silver Girl"?!? *hehehe*

(Actually, I'm still of the mind that that song would have been much more effective, if done in a more upbeat, perky way... like "What's The World Coming To.")

Through it all, you really do get a sense of love and tenderness from these people.
Even Stevie and Lindsey, and all their intensity and stubbornness, you know that at the end of the day they do care about each other.

But isn't that the best of both worlds? Enough love to keep them wanting to work with each other, but enough tension to keep the music from ever going stale. :)

Pisces Queen 06-16-2003 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Conversely, John, Mick, and LB look like they are being flimed in a cafeteria lit by flourescant lights when compared to the glowing penumbra around La Nicks :laugh:

Gotta Love Her!!!!!!


Yes I do love that woman!!!! :nod:

Sally 06-16-2003 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I wonder which song Stevie was saying she just knew Lindsey wouldn't like. Who wants to bet it was "Silver Girl"?!? *hehehe*

LMAO! I so agree!!!!

Through it all, you really do get a sense of love and tenderness from these people. Even Stevie and Lindsey, and all their intensity and stubbornness, you know that at the end of the day they do care about each other.

But isn't that the best of both worlds? Enough love to keep them wanting to work with each other, but enough tension to keep the music from ever going stale. :)


Perfect sentiment, Johnny Stew! You can totally see that sense of friendship and tenderness now...it's really great to experience.

Sorcerer386 06-16-2003 03:14 PM

It was just so FUNNY to actually see Stevie and Lindsey having an argument that was THAT heated. Honestly, I could never really picture them arguing like that. It is absolutely KILLING me that they never mentioned what song they were talking about. I don't think it's Silver Girl for the simple reason that I'd think it would be one of the songs that has to do with Lindsey, or is POTENTIALLY about Lindsey (maybe Everybody Finds Out?!? ;) ) But, I really enjoyed this special. I think they should have made it an hour though and shown a few songs being done live at the Columbus show (Running through the Garden would have been nice to see since only the Columbus audience saw it). But my God, seeing Stevie so worked up was just so...FUNNY! Hopefully this will boost SYW sales a little too.

tamaraluvsFM 06-16-2003 03:20 PM

Congrats to VH1! I think they did a great job with the 30 minutes they showed us. Yes longer would have been nice and could have easily been done. I was drawn to the tv though and holding my breath through most of it though, just waiting for something bad and negative. It was very positive I thought. I think it was great! I also can't wait for the documentary to come out...I wonder if that was the line that Stevie said, " This is not art...its finances" or something like that.
Loved it all!! I think we even got to see little William too on one part. They all look so much happier now.
Its great to see. :)
GOD I LOVE THIS BAND!!

Tamara:wavey:

wondergirl9847 06-16-2003 03:45 PM

O...M...G!!!
 
HOW GREAT WAS THAT TODAY!?!?! I almost DIED when she like was kinda yelling at him...and him saying he was gonna cry and wiping his eyes......SWEET MOSES!!!!! That was too much!!! What a great show that was....I gotta go watch it again!! THANK GOD Lindsey is making a documentary....God bless that man!!!!!

:blob1::blob2:

Alison 06-16-2003 05:35 PM

Oh how I wished we had VH1 in Canada. I love reading all the details. I hope you guys taped it, and some one will show mercy on me.

ejof17 06-16-2003 05:49 PM

Sweet Jesus! I wish I had seen this! Must catch it next go round.

frostie 06-16-2003 08:28 PM

That show was such a tease!!!! WE WANT MORE!!!!

I am so glad I figured out how to use my VCR and recorded it because I am going to watch it over and over again. I really, really hope they put out the documentary and the Mick tapes. That would be awesome!!! (I've been watching too many of the "I love 80's shows. My high school words are coming back to haunt me. Pretty soon I'll be bringing out my New Kids on The Block tapes!! Just kidding!!!) :laugh:

flyfirefly 06-16-2003 10:22 PM

I loved it!

I got the impression that...that part that's showing Fleetwood Mac in Japan and Mick is saying something like Stevie was playing around with the roadies and you see her sort of, dancing all over the place, and she comes up to the camera, laughing. Yeah, I got the impression that she might be like that when she was high. Heh. Funny. :)

PollyThePenguin 06-16-2003 10:39 PM

Much of that "Japan" footage can be obtained from ebay. And it's incredible back stage stuff. But I sure as hell would like to see the entire...what was it? SEVENTEEN hours ? of film from this time period that Mick found. I would have to change my panties after that! ;)

gldstwmn 06-16-2003 10:46 PM

That was way too short. What is Stevie getting so animated about with the "He'll hate it!" thing? I laughed so hard when she said she'd still be swinging her walker at LB when she's 80. You know she means it! Also, for some reason I got teary when she whipped out the original Stand Back cape.:confused: I loved the way she looked right into the camera and said something about "all those people who thought I was a witch because I wore black." That black and white segment of him getting choked up and her looking out the window was another teary moment. Low point? Mick in his underwear.

greatdarkwing 06-16-2003 10:49 PM

Yes, about 2 and 1/2 hours of the Japan footage is available through a bootleg called "Fleetwood Mac Rumours Tour 77". It circulated as 2 tapes with the Rosebud Video in front. Its an excellent video....


~Alex

gldstwmn 06-16-2003 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Stew

I wonder which song Stevie was saying she just knew Lindsey wouldn't like.
Who wants to bet it was "Silver Girl"?!? *hehehe*


I agree. I read the lyrics before I heard the song and thought they were great. Then, when I heard the door chime opening to that song, I was disappointed. It would have made a much better uptempo song.

GardenStateGirlie 06-16-2003 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gldstwmn
I agree. I read the lyrics before I heard the song and thought they were great. Then, when I heard the door chime opening to that song, I was disappointed. It would have made a much better uptempo song.
Word. LOL. I thought the lyrics were amazing and then I heard the song and was like...eh...not so much...It has grown on me though and I do really like it now. Oh, and did I get all teary eyed like a baby when Lindsey was getting all emotional?? Gawd..those two... i am *so* intrigued by their relationship...it's never going to be over really and I think Lindsey hit the nail on the head when he said this is the opening of closure but not really closure...those two are attached by something so special and it really is amazing to watch them. And yes, I truly do believe that when she's 80, she will be swinging her walker at him...LOL! I was so glad to see John speak too!! And ya know, i'm not the biggest Mick fan but I thought he was pretty funny and I enjoyed hearing him. And I really do think that either Stevie herself or Karen or someone closely connected to Stevie reads the Ledge hence her statements about why she doesn't wear color...lol...I think she caught wind of our BLACK DRESS thread :nod: Ahh...Fleetwood Mac/Stevie/Lindsey..how I love thee...let me count the ways :laugh: I seriously do love them now more than ever after having watched this.

sara1998 06-17-2003 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GardenStateGirlie
And I really do think that either Stevie herself or Karen or someone closely connected to Stevie reads the Ledge hence her statements about why she doesn't wear color...lol...I think she caught wind of our BLACK DRESS thread
Thats too funny! I thought the same thing when she said this. Hopefully next time I see this on I will not have a skwaking 4 year old in my face, and can catch some more of the dialog! Thank God my grandma called me and told me to turn it on, I had no idea it was even coming on! And VH1 finally did something right, and this is the first thread I've ever read praising VH1 so much!:laugh:

Sorry if this question has already been answered, I've been gone for a few weeks! Does anyone know when the documentary comes out? I can't wait!

Maria

Sarah 06-17-2003 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by greatdarkwing
Yes, about 2 and 1/2 hours of the Japan footage is available through a bootleg called "Fleetwood Mac Rumours Tour 77". It circulated as 2 tapes with the Rosebud Video in front. Its an excellent video....


~Alex

Yep. Hopefully it'll be released though, so we can have a CLEAN copy.. the quality gets worse and worse as people copy it.

Sarah

sparky 06-17-2003 02:14 AM

Foiled by a button. Of course, I pressed that ONE button on one of my remotes that entirely screws up the taping process. I yakked on the phone instead of watching, then the tape was fuzz. Guess I have to stake out the TV for next time !

DownOnRodeo 06-17-2003 06:12 AM

For those like me who don't get VH1, a recording of the show, although of slightly choppy quality, but perfectly viewable nontheless, is up at tgee's site - http://burnish.net. Enjoy!
(Thanks so much to tgee :wavey: )

Bella Figura 06-17-2003 08:52 AM

great show, I enjoyed every minute of it...the old footage, the new footage, the Columbus show reheasals...did everyone hear the live version of Destiny Rules??!!!

I, too, had that feeling that somehow, Stevie, may be getting info from the Ledge, she mentioned two subjects we've discussed in great detail: the black dress and the singing of new material. Who knows? it's probably because the Ledge ends up discussing everything FM down to the smallest detail!!!

Like any FM fan, I wanted the show to be an hour but being a 1/2 hour long show is probably better for exposure. VH1 can schedule the show in more time slots and use it as a quick replacement if needed for the rest of the year especially now that the whole FM tour will be doing a second leg in the US.

I am totally looking forward to Lindsey's video, hopefully, he will not pull a Mick and put these precious tapes in his basement.

thanks tgee!!! for putting the video on the Net!!! FM fans rule!! :lol: :wavey: ... I'm mature :D

strandinthewind 06-17-2003 09:42 AM

Tracy - you rule - thanks very, very much!!!!!!

OK - the time is NOW to release this new documentary CD. It can only help CD sales now and the band is "in" right now. If LB takes six years to release this ( :laugh: ), there will not as much interest (except for us of course :cool: ). So, I say - go ahead and release it NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

Les 06-17-2003 10:47 AM

I have to say, surprisingly, I did enjoy that. Considering VH1's history, and when I saw that they were only giving this show a half hour, I really was annoyed and all expectations went in the toilet. But getting past the length issue for a second...it was a good show. The documentary footage really made it. :)

strandinthewind 06-17-2003 11:04 AM

I love that line when CM says something like "If you want to know what it feels like to be to be a rock and roll sex symbol - ask Stevie Nicks!!!" :laugh:

This is from the infamous Japan footage. I have a tape somewhere of this. It is hysterical - they are all very, very, wasted toward the end and still giving interviews. I think CM hauls out a picture from her wallet of her dog and goes into this big story about the dog. CM smokes and drinks the ENTIRE time. Stevie also slightly freaks out while on a trip and basically goes into a trance and just stares at Robin.

Trippy stuff!!!!

Livia 06-17-2003 11:18 AM

I know, I was like, "Long-lost basement tapes? Those have been circulating for years!" LOL I wish they'd showed the part where the little girl who found Stevie's ring gives it back to her, and Stevie gives her a scarf!

berry 06-17-2003 11:27 AM

video??
 
Where can I get a copy of these videos??? I would love to have a copy and will pay someone to make me a copy.....
I'd really appreciate it!

rhiannon1119 06-17-2003 12:27 PM

I totally enjoyed this show! I couldn't believe all the info they crammed into a half hour. It was just really great.

I loved how fired up Stevie got when talking about whatever song she was talking about..lol. I also really loved the emotional moment between Stevie and Lindsey.. when he started to cry and she turned away from the camera. It just made them more human to me. I could have lived without seeing Mick in his underwear.. but that was a small price to pay. I hope they release Lindsey's documentary soon.. that would really be something worth seeing too! One of my favorite moments was definitely Stevie's closet.. too cool! I also almost fell off my chair when they showed Stevie kiss Lindsey at the end of Landslide.. that was great! VH1 finally did a wonderful job!

:) Michelle

GardenStateGirlie 06-17-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strandinthewind
I love that line when CM says something like "If you want to know what it feels like to be to be a rock and roll sex symbol - ask Stevie Nicks!!!" :laugh:

This is from the infamous Japan footage. I have a tape somewhere of this. It is hysterical - they are all very, very, wasted toward the end and still giving interviews. I think CM hauls out a picture from her wallet of her dog and goes into this big story about the dog. CM smokes and drinks the ENTIRE time. Stevie also slightly freaks out while on a trip and basically goes into a trance and just stares at Robin.

Trippy stuff!!!!

I'd really love to see it...anyone know where I can get a copy???
Oh, and I said it before and I'll say it again, I totally think that someone is reading these boards especially now that i've gone back and watched it again. When she was talking about wearing black, she looked directly into the camera with attitude as if to say, "you assfaces on the ledge that make fun of black dress in song parodies can suck it" :laugh: jk but seriously, I do believe they come here for vital info. They sure as **** aren't going to Mick's board...LOL! We really did come down hard on poor lil' ol' black dress but we heart you Miss. Stephanie Lynn Nicks so if you read this...yay you!! :nod: LOL

wondergirl9847 06-17-2003 12:55 PM

LMAO!!
 
Da da. (LOL)

Yeah, I just watched the video again and I caught something Lindsey said (I didn't catch it the first time), and he goes "Yeah, right now, I have no ??? in the band" sounds like he's saying AI or something, anyone wanna fill idiot Christy in on what he was saying? It was the shot of him in the car with sunglasses on.

Fave parts: Stevie (those glasses!! LOL) and the singin' bass!!

Lindsey saying he was thrilled, but couldn't talk about it or he'd cry...OMG...what a moment folks!!!!!!!

John saying "Can we just play?" (Gotta love John...the voice of sanity! LOL)

Mick going "My hair, what I have left of, my hair!!" as the tech pulls the mic away from him! LOL

Lindsey saying "If I'm gonna be made out to be the bad guy, then so be it...why should anything be different...HA." LMAO!!!!!! The way he goes HA....HYSTERICAL!!

Christine in the Japan Rumours video going "I don't know, ask Stevie Nicks." after being asked what it's like being a sex symbol and that FACE she makes...LMAO!!!

CarneVaca 06-17-2003 12:59 PM

Dangit! I fell asleep and only caught the last 15 minutes. What a shame that VH1 never repeats anything. ;)

Livia 06-17-2003 01:15 PM

Mick saying, "no beating off" was pretty funny too...

I noticed that while the ending credits were rolling on the 10 PM Central time broadcast, they were showing one of those summer series commercials (to the tune of "Summer Breeze," I love them!). But at the end of the 11:30 broadcast, they showed the Peacekeeper video. I taped the earlier one, but I may tape it again to try to get the Peacekeeper ending.

HoneyHi 06-17-2003 01:16 PM

Quote:

he goes "Yeah, right now, I have no ??? in the band" sounds like he's saying AI or something, anyone wanna fill idiot Christy in on what he was saying?
I'm not 100% sure but I think he says that he doesn't have an ally in the band. Can anyone confirm this? :laugh:

Antje


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