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Cour 05-22-2003 07:38 AM

Goldustwoman (aka Jackie) works for Warner Bros?
 
Just when you think you've seen everything...


Someone named Sarabella posted some lovely pictures from the Buffalo concert over on Mick's board. This person made sure to note that they were copyrighted and they were going to enforce it if it was violated. They are beautiful photos and if you haven't seen them, it might even be worth a trip over to the board to view them.


I noticed the following statement from Jackie edited into Sarabella's post:


"ADMIN NOTE: Sorry Sarabella, but I need to add this regarding the selling of these pictures. _Not only does Sarabella not want to see these pictures be put up for sale but Warner Brothers/Reprise Records would not be happy either and would step in also. _I would strongly recommend that none of the pictures posted in this thread or in any other thread on this board end up on eBay or anywhere else for sale. Having said that, Sarabella these pictures are super!! _Thank you so much for sharing them with us...........Jackie"



Why would Warner Bros step in here but allow thousands of other auctions on Ebay to continue?



I also noticed Jackie locked the thread about the bootleg video/dvd from the DC show after she got the word from the Black Knight. It's good to know that Jackie won't be purchasing that video or dvd and it's a crying shame that she won't have that memory of her show to watch. I guess that's what happens when you cross over to the dark side and turn on your fellow fans. I hope Jackie has burned or destroyed all of the bootlegs she has collected over the years. I think Warner Bros would not be too "happy" to know that their chief police agent had her own stash of illegal material from FM.

Mad4stevie 05-22-2003 10:28 AM

Jackie also locked a thread about "favorite Stevie demos". I hate hypocrites!!

Livia 05-22-2003 10:34 AM

What a crock! Well, at least we know that the DC video/DVD guy has nothing to do w/ JT.

DownOnRodeo 05-22-2003 10:36 AM

Sorry - I would've replied sooner but I had to go throw up!

Livia 05-22-2003 11:09 AM

And another thing- since the band is ALLOWING cameras, why shouldn't anyone who takes photos be allowed to sell them???? It's not against the law to sell your own photos. Period.

Cour 05-22-2003 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by Livia
And another thing- since the band is ALLOWING cameras, why shouldn't anyone who takes photos be allowed to sell them???? It's not against the law to sell your own photos. Period.
I think the issue seems to be with THESE photos. Sarabella said people were emailing her about buying them and if she? doesn't want to sell them to other fans, that's her choice.

I wonder why Jackie feels WB/Reprise would be so interested in someone selling THESE pictures and would 'step in'?

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 11:30 AM

MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD
 
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Originally posted by Livia
And another thing- since the band is ALLOWING cameras, why shouldn't anyone who takes photos be allowed to sell them???? It's not against the law to sell your own photos. Period.
Amen to that. She just "gets off" of that supposed power that she feels being one of the minions. It is really evident in that not only does she post to every little nuance over there but, is forever correcting, dictating, locking, etc. ppls threads, but, guess what? She cannot lock anyone elses site nor anyones minds. And, slowly but, surely, so many of the original "faithful" are beginning to see the light.

I am so glad that I saw it early. I just hope to GOD that management and the powers that be, whether it be the individual members or their reps, get off their asses and do something about all of this. I know that the timing is wrong with the tour and so forth, but, so does Knight and he is hitting it while he can. SHAME ON ALL THOSE WHO COULD TAKE CARE OF HIM AND ARE NOT. This may not end up like I want it to, but, it will not be because myself and some other dedicated ppl have not tried to the best of our abilities.

And, with that said, I want to AGAIN, encourage any and all that will to file a complaint with the CA Atty Gens office and with the FBI Internet Fraud division. You may think that because you used your benefits to buy a seat that you cannot complain, but, you certainly can complain. And, nothing is going to get EVERYONES attention quite like questions from legal areas, specially the two that I have mentioned.

Tango 05-22-2003 11:36 AM

I dunno.
 
You think maybe Mr. Todd is planning on selling some of the "fab photos" he has acquired on "the official site?"

I am dismayed to hear of Jackie allowing herself to be in a position of threatening/warning the fans. Shouldn't Mr. Todd do his dirty work himself? I guess they feel beholding to him. And that's sad. Their roles have certainly evolved haven't they? Orignially they wanted to be "board administrators" so they could facilitate communications for the fans. Jackie's whole tone has changed. She's speaking as Todd now.

Fleetwood Mac suing it's fans? Thank you for taking the time to threaten your fellow fans "official ones."

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 11:45 AM

Re: I dunno.
 
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Originally posted by Tango
You think maybe Mr. Todd is planning on selling some of the "fab photos" he has acquired on "the official site?"

I am dismayed to hear of Jackie allowing herself to be in a position of threatening/warning the fans. Shouldn't Mr. Todd do his dirty work himself? I guess they feel beholding to him. And that's sad. Their roles have certainly evolved haven't they? Orignially they wanted to be "board administrators" so they could facilitate communications for the fans. Jackie's whole tone has changed. She's speaking as Todd now.

Fleetwood Mac suing it's fans? Thank you for taking the time to threaten your fellow fans "official ones."

you know, she is SO full of it. The Mac would have to start with the other ten million ppl who are selling and have sold their images over the years. She is speaking without any consent I am sure and Reprise would probably not love that she said that. She is not really in the know about legal things, I am sure. You have to be careful how you say things and what you say. She is in a position of a certain amount of authority, but, she needs to remember that she is representing Jonathan Todd, NOT the mac nor Reprise...Hey, she is no one on a power trip. And, I will never ever forget all her raunchy postings about how she loved Micks balls and so forth...no respect from me.

gypsysara 05-22-2003 12:06 PM

If its not too painful...

can someone post a link to Hades?

Gypsy-Rhiannon 05-22-2003 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Cour
I think the issue seems to be with THESE photos. Sarabella said people were emailing her about buying them and if she? doesn't want to sell them to other fans, that's her choice.


I see that Sarabella has happily offered them for the up coming tourbook tho......

Pip

Gypsy-Rhiannon 05-22-2003 12:20 PM

Re: I dunno.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tango
You think maybe Mr. Todd is planning on selling some of the "fab photos" he has acquired on "the official site?"


Well dispite not being a member of the 'fan club' I have seen the official pictures they have on offer and quite frankly my 7 year old could do better. As usual the fans have come up with the goods and have shared freely which is why I already have a couple of boots to listen to and some great pictures to look at.

Pip

Gypsy-Rhiannon 05-22-2003 12:21 PM

Re: Re: I dunno.
 
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Originally posted by seeknpeace
And, I will never ever forget all her raunchy postings about how she loved Micks balls and so forth...
Oh please.... not Mick's balls again:rolleyes:

Cour 05-22-2003 12:42 PM

Quack..Quack....Quack...
 
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Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
I see that Sarabella has happily offered them for the up coming tourbook tho......

Pip


!!!!BINGO!!!!!


Now that explains why Jackie said WB/Reprise would "step in' about THESE photos. They always manage to sink below your worst expectations.


PLEASE tell me the tourbook is not going to be amateur time at the five and dime. Is there anything besides making music that this band does in a first class way? It's really pathetic.


Does anyone else remember anything else about Sarabella? Anyone remember how the Knight took a personal interest in them after the first presale, anyone else remember that?

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 12:47 PM

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Does anyone else remember anything else about Sarabella? Anyone remember how the Knight took a personal interest in them after the first presale, anyone else remember that?
OH YES....I remember and I also remember her getting front row, supposedly, and everyone questioning whether she did indeed, whether she was a made up person, etc. What do you all think?

enibs78 05-22-2003 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
OH YES....I remember and I also remember her getting front row, supposedly, and everyone questioning whether she did indeed, whether she was a made up person, etc. What do you all think?
I remember too. And she's also now posted that she was at last night's sound check, and she talks about the band's dinner menu last night, so maybe there is some official connection.

But ya know what? Her pics are sooo much better than the crap they have over at the fan club. If they want to can the old photographer and hire her, that's fine with me.

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 01:03 PM

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I remember too. And she's also now posted that she was at last night's sound check, and she talks about the band's dinner menu last night, so maybe there is some official connection.
Maybe she is Mrs. Knight, huh? Sounds feasible to me...

Livia 05-22-2003 01:05 PM

Jackie? Trin? You lurking over here? We're onto you, AGAIN!!:mad:

A quote from Mommie Dearest:

"DON'T F*$K WITH ME, FELLAS!!!"

And to quote Stevie:

"IF YOU F*&K WITH MY PEOPLE, I'M GONNA GET REALLY F*@KING ANGRY!!!"

Maybe that's why Stevie hasn't appeared in any of the pics or vids on the fan club site. She doesn't WANT any part of it!!

You know, the "in-your-face" lying is bad enough. But if there's one thing I really cannot tolerate, is having my intelligence insulted.

Cour 05-22-2003 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Livia


You know, the "in-your-face" lying is bad enough. But if there's one thing I really cannot tolerate, is having my intelligence insulted.

You and me both!


I knew it as soon as I read that admin edit from her.


But, the best is yet to come, prepare yourself!

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 01:52 PM

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But, the best is yet to come, prepare yourself!
Yes, keep your eyes peeled folks, some info headed your way hopefully tonite, maybe tomorrow..

SmthngOfADreamr 05-22-2003 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
Maybe she is Mrs. Knight, huh? Sounds feasible to me...
That is, if she exists at all. Has anyone ever met her? She very well could be an alternate personality of our favorite bipolar knight. Some of the stuff she said/did when I actually read that board was just a bit hard to swallow. And the fact that she just popped up out of nowhere and now is co-ruler over there. It all just stinks.

disEnchanted 05-22-2003 02:26 PM

when i visited micks site i saw a lot of suspicious things. lots of posts aimed at luring fans to ask for things the fan club later tried to do. the meet greet was the worst most obvious ploy. a lot of fans got riled up at the outrageous cost. i'm not sure how many noticed it was a set up. certain folks who i suspect are not fans were always behind a lot of the baiting. i always thought certain posters were not mere fans but baiters employed by the site. the people who supposedly used to be regular fans and who now work for the site, who knows anything about them? anybody ever meet or know these people before micks site got started? i think a lot of stuff posted there is staged and phony and has a hidden agenda.

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 02:27 PM

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And the fact that she just popped up out of nowhere and now is co-ruler over there. It all just stinks.
I agree...she did just pop up out of nowhere. But, if she was Mrs. Knight the horrifically bad singer, then, she woulda popped up outta nowhere. There is NOTHING that I would not put past JTodd...

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 02:30 PM

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i think a lot of stuff posted there is staged and phony and has a hidden agenda.
You could be right, no one ever really heard of Jackie before that site either, not like she proposes that she is now...a fan who has seen over a hundred FMac shows? PULEASE. And, a certain, Doc was forever stirring crap up and making trouble, then he would delete his posts from it, saying that he was disgusted with the thread, but, he was probably cleaning his tracks up.

I complained to Jackie about him and was told that like 12 ppl had complained and that they were going to Knight about him soon as the first presale happened. But, that never happened, huh?

disEnchanted 05-22-2003 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
Doc was forever stirring crap up and making trouble, then he would delete his posts from it, saying that he was disgusted with the thread, but, he was probably cleaning his tracks up.


i remember that trouble maker. is he still there? his posts were suspect as those of certain others

disEnchanted 05-22-2003 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
OH YES....I remember and I also remember her getting front row, supposedly, and everyone questioning whether she did indeed, whether she was a made up person, etc. What do you all think?
was she the one Knight claimed was afraid to post because of all the mean people bashing the fan club?
i smell tuna. do you?

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by disEnchanted
was she the one Knight claimed was afraid to post because of all the mean people bashing the fan club?
i smell tuna. do you?

sho nuff...poor thing. Bless her little heart. all of us mean ole baddies calling the king himself out, damn us for having a brain..seeing the writing on the wall that some others over there are having to deal with now. It is sad, cause they want to let have so badly, you can read it, and then The Almighty One will post and they all cow down and scrap and bow thanking him profusely...gag

glitter_fades 05-22-2003 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by Livia

You know, the "in-your-face" lying is bad enough. But if there's one thing I really cannot tolerate, is having my intelligence insulted.

Yes. They think we're all morons. It's probably the most irritating thing about the people who run amok over there. You have to agree, as long as they're allowed to continue, they're getting the last laugh. I'm having a hard time with that.

gypsysara 05-22-2003 04:26 PM

Can someone post the URL so us non-fan-club-members could see what you can see (please)? Im curious as to what these "photos" look like...

enibs78 05-22-2003 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
But, if she was Mrs. Knight the horrifically bad singer . . .
That Universal Female Vocal Toolkit that JT markets together with Mick's Total Drumming . . . hmmm, is that Mrs. Knight? The ads for it have this glowing review from JT, but they don't say anything about it being his wife!

seeknpeace 05-22-2003 04:33 PM

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The ads for it have this glowing review from JT, but they don't say anything about it being his wife!
God, I am not sure, but, he has a site for her where you can go and listen to her "cd",,,,hello....we could make one at home,,, and she is BAAAAAAAAAD,,,,I have the link somewhere. I will try to find it. Anyone remember her name?

gldstwmn 05-22-2003 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by enibs78
I remember too. And she's also now posted that she was at last night's sound check, and she talks about the band's dinner menu last night, so maybe there is some official connection.



Oh, I get it, she's the catering chic. Now you know where the insider news is coming from. Jesus.

Rapunzel 05-22-2003 05:04 PM

Re: Re: Re: I dunno.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Oh please.... not Mick's balls again:rolleyes:
She is still at it! She mentioned those balls of his in her review of the show she attended. I cringe for her when I read that stuff.

I doubt she has the good sense to cringe for herself though! If I were Mick I would be getting myself a restraining order!

I am so glad I was banned from that place - it is just a shambles!

Aine x

gypsysara 05-22-2003 05:28 PM

I see the photos...

Some of them are pretty good. Perhaps ONE of them is "tourbook worthy" but not the whole lot. Someone needs to take photos more on a "level" than from down low. If all the tourbook photos were her photos, Id be highly dissapointed. Please PLEASE use a PROFESSIONAL photographer! I consider myself pretty good for photos, but even I can tell she's an amature!

gypsysara 05-22-2003 05:49 PM

WHHAHAHAH BWWHHHAAAHAHAHA>....

What a GAS reading "Jackies" posts! What a total moron acting like the list-police over there... reminds me of a nagging mother going "now, now children". I know she's a moderator, but didnt know that meant MOM-erator! LOL!

:wavey: Hi Jackie, ya reading this? From a total outsider you look like an overbearing MORON on the "bbs" you "moderate".

sodascouts 05-22-2003 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by disEnchanted
the people who supposedly used to be regular fans and who now work for the site, who knows anything about them? anybody ever meet or know these people before micks site got started? i think a lot of stuff posted there is staged and phony and has a hidden agenda.
Trinity is real. I happened to sit next to him at AHI 2001, and he was a gung-ho fan just like the rest of us. Unfortunately, I think his position as admin has compromised him. At one time he told me he was upset about how people's posts were getting deleted without explanation. Now he helps delete them. :(

gldstwmn 05-22-2003 11:55 PM

That's what happens when people get stars in their eyes...

glitter_fades 05-23-2003 12:36 AM

Haven't you heard? We're just jealous they got their foots in the door and we didn't.
They got perks and the insider's royal treatment. We got the fan club and a royal screw job.
Sour grapes is our problem. That's where all the whine comes from...don't ya know?

seeknpeace 05-23-2003 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by glitter_fades
Haven't you heard? We're just jealous they got their foots in the door and we didn't.
They got perks and the insider's royal treatment. We got the fan club and a royal screw job.
Sour grapes is our problem. That's where all the whine comes from...don't ya know?

Yep, that would be us...with our self respect intact, our asskissing not happening, our noses not brown, and not afraid to see any fan anywhere...yep, that would be us.

I may NEVER meet Mick Fleetwood, Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks or John McVie, but, I will Never be ashamed that I turned against my "friends" to go to the rehearsal or to get any of the perks that they may get, but, hey, they only live once, right? What kinda life did Jackie have before?

And, as for Trin, I have heard lots of good things about him, and I hope that he wakes up. He is being used is my opinion and he and Jackie are truly gonna take all the heat for anything that is going down now, closed threads, deletes, etc. but, JT just forgets that we had our trusty "save" buttons pushed.

It is like the fan who kept yelling, "they never promised us anything, they don't owe us anything". Well, excuse the f**k outta me, yes they did.

"BEST 20% OF THE FLOOR, CLOSEST" was a start, and all those disclaimers? Well, guess what, they were not there when we joined. NONE of them. So, remember, we have our little saved info. Chew on that one.

enibs78 05-24-2003 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
God, I am not sure, but, he has a site for her where you can go and listen to her "cd",,,,hello....we could make one at home,,, and she is BAAAAAAAAAD,,,,I have the link somewhere. I will try to find it. Anyone remember her name?
I have confirmed that this is JT's wife, but I'm not going to say any more. If she's married to JT, she's suffered enough.


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