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cbBen 05-28-2020 12:30 PM

Mike C. / "Lockdown"
 
Mike plays all instruments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um2HLwseRaI

FuzzyPlum 07-25-2020 12:37 PM

I notice the official Fleetwood Mac Twitter account referred to Mike Campbell as 'Our friend'. Is he a friend of the band or a member of the band? Perhaps I'm being pedantic.

Our friend @MikeCampbellHQ wrote a fun new song called “Lockdown,” and is using it to raise money for @FeedingAmerica. Head to http://thedirtyknobs.com to see the full video, read a statement from Mike, and donate to receive a free limited edition Lockdown bandana.

bombaysaffires 07-25-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1258970)
I notice the official Fleetwood Mac Twitter account referred to Mike Campbell as 'Our friend'. Is he a friend of the band or a member of the band? Perhaps I'm being pedantic.

Our friend @MikeCampbellHQ wrote a fun new song called “Lockdown,” and is using it to raise money for @FeedingAmerica. Head to http://thedirtyknobs.com to see the full video, read a statement from Mike, and donate to receive a free limited edition Lockdown bandana.

Nope, you're just being observant. Typical revelation of their ongoing publicity bs. they just don't have to try as hard anymore, now that the tour farce is over.

HomerMcvie 07-25-2020 03:18 PM

I would say that he or Neil were never official members of the band.

That would probably require them getting a larger cut, and Mick ain't gonna go for that!

SteveMacD 07-25-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1258984)
Nope, you're just being observant. Typical revelation of their ongoing publicity bs. they just don't have to try as hard anymore, now that the tour farce is over.

Except for that new almost Fleetwood Mac song that Neil, Stevie, Christine, and Mike did.

Also, Neil was referenced as a member of the band at the Peter Green shindig. Mick has said that they are committed to them and the road crew people said “six principals.”

Hawkeye 07-25-2020 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258992)
I would say that he or Neil were never official members of the band.

That would probably require them getting a larger cut, and Mick ain't gonna go for that!


I agree unless they can manage to release one fu**ing song as this 6 piece, but they can’t accomplish even my incredibly low set expectations bar to legitimize them!

SteveMacD 07-25-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 1259010)
I agree unless they can manage to release one fu**ing song as this 6 piece, but they can’t accomplish even my incredibly low set expectations bar to legitimize them!

That new song is literally two overdubs away from being Fleetwood Mac. It’s in the same category as “Can’t Help Falling In Love,” “Roll With Me Henry,” “Twisted,” LBCM, and all of the GOS songs with Mick, John, and Lindsey. Fleetwood Mac enough for me.

UnwindedDreams 07-25-2020 07:34 PM

You sincerely feel that Neil's new song sounds as FM as LBCM?

It sounds like a song by The Fray or Harry Styles to me.

SteveMacD 07-26-2020 12:15 AM

Yes. Just as I think “Dreams” sounds as much like Fleetwood Mac as “Shake Your Moneymaker.”

elle 07-26-2020 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1259011)
That new song is literally two overdubs away from being Fleetwood Mac. It’s in the same category as “Can’t Help Falling In Love,” “Roll With Me Henry,” “Twisted,” LBCM, and all of the GOS songs with Mick, John, and Lindsey. Fleetwood Mac enough for me.

this is interesting. you usually insist that it's all about Mick and John for you and as long as they are there, you are there too. there's no Fleetwood or Mac on Neil Finn song but still FM for you.

Twisted is not FM.

GOS songs are with Mick and John, as are BuckVie songs.

SteveMacD 07-26-2020 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1259025)
this is interesting. you usually insist that it's all about Mick and John for you and as long as they are there, you are there too. there's no Fleetwood or Mac on Neil Finn song but still FM for you.

Twisted is not FM.

GOS songs are with Mick and John, as are BuckVie songs.

Neil’s song is the entire front line of the current lineup. It’s not just some random grouping of people.

If you want to get all lawyerly, is “Second Hand News,” which doesn’t have John on bass, really a Fleetwood Mac song? What about Lindsey’s “Tusk” and “Tango” songs that clearly do not have those guys? “Landslide,” “Never Going Back Again,” “Songbird,” “The World Keep On Turning,” “The Way I Feel,” and “Forever?” How far do you want to take that? And, on the flip side, is “Warewolves of London” a Fleetwood Mac song? Is “Warewolves of London” more of a Fleetwood Mac than “Second Hand News?”

elle 07-26-2020 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1259028)
Neil’s song is the entire front line of the current lineup. It’s not just some random grouping of people.

If you want to get all lawyerly, is “Second Hand News,” which doesn’t have John on bass, really a Fleetwood Mac song? What about Lindsey’s “Tusk” and “Tango” songs that clearly do not have those guys? “Landslide,” “Never Going Back Again,” “Songbird,” “The World Keep On Turning,” “The Way I Feel,” and “Forever?” How far do you want to take that? And, on the flip side, is “Warewolves of London” a Fleetwood Mac song? Is “Warewolves of London” more of a Fleetwood Mac than “Second Hand News?”

cute.

i'm not talking lawyerly or objective, or by contract. i'm talking what you always claim is FM to you - Fleetwood and Mac, you usually say, as long as they are there, you'll be there, and it will be FM for you.

for me? Peter Green or Lindsey Buckingham are all that's important in Fleetwood Mac. as long as either one of them is there, i'm good. if neither is there, i couldn't care less.

SteveMacD 07-26-2020 01:32 AM

A song with Mick and John with at least one of the principals is the perfect, ideal measure of a Fleetwood Mac song. After that, it should have a minimum of three principals (except for the Peter Green Bluesbreaker songs, where Pete and John were enough). But, there are no hard rules. That “Blues Jam at Chess” would be a mess.

However, “Sentimental Lady,” “It Ain’t Over,” and “Twisted,” as well as “Find Your Way Back Home” are basically Fleetwood Mac songs, IMO.

FuzzyPlum 07-26-2020 03:36 AM

The question is...why doesn't it have Mick and John on it?
If its got Chris and Stevie (and Mike apparently) then surely Neil would have sought out Mick's participation at least, if not John. If the proceeds are for charity, then a track billed as by Fleetwood Mac is always going to sell more than Neil Finn (albeit with a 'featuring....' credit).

SteveMacD 07-26-2020 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1259041)
The question is...why doesn't it have Mick and John on it?
If its got Chris and Stevie (and Mike apparently) then surely Neil would have sought out Mick's participation at least, if not John. If the proceeds are for charity, then a track billed as by Fleetwood Mac is always going to sell more than Neil Finn (albeit with a 'featuring....' credit).

I’m under the impression that it was modern day postal rock (where they e-mail tracks recorded at home) made during the pandemic. I can’t see Mick and John having elaborate home recording equipment like the others would. I could be wrong.

FuzzyPlum 07-26-2020 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1259042)
I’m under the impression that it was modern day postal rock (where they e-mail tracks recorded at home) made during the pandemic. I can’t see Mick and John having elaborate home recording equipment like the others would. I could be wrong.


Fair enough. Would that mean Chris owns a property in LA now....with recording capability? Indeed, where has she even been living all this time? US or UK?

SteveMacD 07-26-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1259043)
Fair enough. Would that mean Chris owns a property in LA now....with recording capability? Indeed, where has she even been living all this time? US or UK?

I think she lives in London. It doesn’t take a lot of equipment to record at home. I think that’s how she initiated recording with Lindsey back in 2013. They just sent each other files and would expand upon them.

jbrownsjr 07-28-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1259057)
I think she lives in London. It doesn’t take a lot of equipment to record at home. I think that’s how she initiated recording with Lindsey back in 2013. They just sent each other files and would expand upon them.

Agreed. Christine has stated in a few interviews that she has a mini home set up.

Also, I felt like the new song (FINN) sounded and felt like FMac to me. I like it the more I listen to it. The worst part of the song is Stevie's vocal entrance. Way too nasal. But, the blend of the three singers and the atmosphere is really very lovely. It left me wanting more. On my 2 Apple Home pods, I can hear Christine very clearly. Not so much on a basic computer.

Villavic 07-31-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1259011)
That new song is literally two overdubs away from being Fleetwood Mac. It’s in the same category as “Can’t Help Falling In Love,” “Roll With Me Henry,” “Twisted,” LBCM, and all of the GOS songs with Mick, John, and Lindsey. Fleetwood Mac enough for me.

For me, there will never be a Fleetwood Mac enough song if C-J-L-M-S are not there. That includes Behind the mask (album that I do like), Say You Will songs and Buckingham McVie (that I love too).

Of course the Early Years is another story.

jbrownsjr 07-31-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1259178)
For me, there will never be a Fleetwood Mac enough song if C-J-L-M-S are not there. That includes Behind the mask (album that I do like), Say You Will songs and Buckingham McVie (that I love too).

Of course the Early Years is another story.

So if it's not the Rumours 5, it's not FM to you? Am I reading that correctly?

Villavic 08-01-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1259194)
So if it's not the Rumours 5, it's not FM to you? Am I reading that correctly?

Not enough Fleetwood Mac. I repeat, I do like the BTM album and enjoyed the 2009 Unleashed concert. But I felt something (no need to mention what, you guys already know) was missing, both cases.

That dinner meeting at a Mexican restaurant called El Carmen (circa 1974) when L&S accepted to be in the band was a turning point and they became an unforgettable lineup. Anything that band became afterwards could no longer be the same. The Fleetwood Mac legacy became tighly tied to that lineup.

Now, the pre Rumours 5 years were another story. The previous Fleetwood Macs are different bands. Though basically I found 2 Fleetwood Macs (one with Peter, another with Chris and Bob). But I can't say more cause I've not researched enough, and I'm not enough fan of those lineups.

That's my opinion. Not an absolute truth, it's just my feeling. According to laws and facts I may be wrong, I don't know. But that is and will always be my perception and my feeling.

bombaysaffires 08-01-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1259041)
The question is...why doesn't it have Mick and John on it?
If its got Chris and Stevie (and Mike apparently) then surely Neil would have sought out Mick's participation at least, if not John. If the proceeds are for charity, then a track billed as by Fleetwood Mac is always going to sell more than Neil Finn (albeit with a 'featuring....' credit).

because it was done by Neil as a Neil song, but then, hey, it's easy enough to get the other vocalists to layer in some harmonies and having Stevie on especially would get it far more attention. in other words, it was not a true "collaboration" or "group effort". It's a Neil song with the girls layered in. Not saying good or bad, just not a real band effort. I didn't enjoy the later Rumours5 stuff done that way as much as the earlier stuff where they were all in studio together putting tracks down either. I think you can hear the difference when music is done piecemeal.

But I don't think this song represents any sort of indication of them doing any larger group project together. He did a charity song and thought it would help promote it better to have Stevie and Chris on it. That's it.

tabruns 08-06-2020 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1259218)
because it was done by Neil as a Neil song, but then, hey, it's easy enough to get the other vocalists to layer in some harmonies and having Stevie on especially would get it far more attention. in other words, it was not a true "collaboration" or "group effort". It's a Neil song with the girls layered in. Not saying good or bad, just not a real band effort. I didn't enjoy the later Rumours5 stuff done that way as much as the earlier stuff where they were all in studio together putting tracks down either. I think you can hear the difference when music is done piecemeal.

But I don't think this song represents any sort of indication of them doing any larger group project together. He did a charity song and thought it would help promote it better to have Stevie and Chris on it. That's it.

Could be it was also something of a trial run for recording together, hence not committing to "by Fleetwood Mac" yet.


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