Just Skimmed Through STORMS
 

About 2 hours ago, Carol Ann Harris' book showed up on my doorstep. I think that it's probably a belated birthday present from my sister. For anyone who is interested, here's what I've learned so far, mind you, I have just skimmed through the book.




According to Carol Ann:
Lindsey was not too upset over his break up with Stevie
Carol Ann miscarried Lindsey's child
Lindsey twice asked Carol to marry him
Lindsey's music was always first in his life

I haven't read anything earth shattering, and I don't think that she portrays Lindsey as an abusive monster. There aren't a lot of pictures. They are all black and whites, and aren't the best quality, so I wouldn't buy this book for the pictures, if anyone was thinking about that. If anyone is interested, I can post a more complete review after I've read the book.

Yes, because their break-up was so amicable. :lol:

It makes one wonder, why there was such a hubbub about it being published. Rumor was that it was to have been published 10 years ago but was blocked.

It sounds pretty tame. Did anyone read that Sandra Haliburton book on Stevie? Pretty awful (IMO) I hope that this one is better. But like a dummy I pre-ordered it from Amazon to see the photos (I am such a guppie) and now I read that the photos aren't the best quality.

Damn you Carol Ann. Couldn't you have afforded a decent camera instead of an instamatic??? or a Polaroid Swinger? :laugh:

Lindsey wasn't that upset about his breakup with STevie?? Is that why he STILL claims to not have closure? :laugh: Those Tusk songs sound sort of bitter to me...........

Something doesn't add up Miss Carol Ann. :wavey:

Mine shipped out on the 26th. I was coerced into buying this trash. :lol:

1) yeah...riiiight
2) possibly
3) big deal
4) no ****....

NEXT! hehehe :laugh:

Ditto RaevenSkye.:] You said it all and quite accurately too.

CarolC

hehe...I want a TELL ALL book, damnit! No more messing around :blob1:
Seriously...I hope there's something moure juice-worthy in Storms, b/c I was sort-of looking forward to it.

I didn't even realize there was a date set for release. Did you receive an advance copy?

1 - I find it interesting that her book is named after a Stevie song

2 - from the overview above, it seems like she's saying "Stevie blah blah blah, he loved me more. see? he asked me to marry him twice. we were really serious. I was even preggers with his child. see? I matter."

I'm going to have to agree. I think she's trying to romanticize the whole relationship.

Who in their right mind is going to believe that first thing, that he wasn't upset about the breakup? I mean, even if you don't give one iota about the whole soap opera behind the band, that's something that almost can't be denied. For one thing, I can clearly remember him saying that the 'spectre of Stevie disabled several long-term relationships'. And even Kristen says she knows that he hadn't been in a good relationship since Stevie. :shrug:

this book is going to sell exactly -7 copies

Well, I think it will be more than 7 copies. ;) Perhaps members of the band will buy it (and deny buying it), former roadies, associates, etc. Whether one wants to believe what is written in this book, unlike the Sandra book, this one was written by someone who actually knew the band, lived with them and traveled with them. She may have some axes to grind, but at least it's her own first hand account. I have heard the pictures in Carol Ann's book are of poor quality, but fans won't buy it solely for the pictures.

I didn't buy the book - because I don't care what that woman has to say !!! :laugh:

It won't be topping the bestseller list but I agree that a number of people will want to take a look at this book. There are very few accounts of this hugely successful era in American music so it is a record of that time by an insider. Plus if she mentions other bands and singers of the time too, they and their fans will want to read it.

If LB asked her to marry him not once but twice, why didn't it happen? She said on tv not so long ago she still loves him even after all this time and clearly has a need to go back to this period and relationship in her life so I can't see that she would have turned him down jmo

Make that 8 people, I pre-ordered it, too. It's to feed my FM information obsession.

maybe lb didn't let ca know the breakup was hard on him? for him to talk about an ex during a 7 year relationship would have been rude.

i do believe he asked her to marry him. remember the handwritten lyrics "gonna ask my baby to marry me?" that was written when he was with ca. why didn't it happen? well maybe she wasn't ready? she had issues at the time with coke & ultimately messed around with dennis wilson which i'm sure didn't set well in the relationship. that she lost a baby is so sad tho. honestly i don't get why everyone seems to dislike her so much. lb loved her & spent close to a decade with her. they split because lb couldn't deal with her habit & probably other things as well. that doesn't make her a bad person. & judging by what's in the book so far, to this day she's maintaining class by not mudslinging at lb.

but for anyone interested she's signing her books next month in la. think she'll sell more than 7 copies.

http://www.myspace.com/booksoup
(look at july 14 on calendar)
"carol ann harris presents and signs "storms, my life with lindsey buckingham'"

I don't think the majority of fans "hate" her because she and Lindsey had a meaningful relationship that lasted 7 years, although granted there may be some. I don't hate her but I do find what she has done questionable; i.e., Writing a tell-all book twenty years later after Lindsey has married, fathered 3 children, and revived his solo career. It's not about her cashing in so much as it's about her selling-out in other words it's about her blatant betrayal of someone's trust. If you love someone you don't tell-all. She wasn't a member of the band so what she has to say is "second hand news!" :confused:

CarolC

i don't know but i think fame comes with a lot more than big bucks. from her perspective, fans are interested in the band & what they were doing at the time. it'll make her some cash, sure, but it doesn't sound like she's telling all. she wasn't a member of the band but short of them writing their own books (which mick did & some people discredited anyway) i think she was about as close to them as anyone could get. as far as betrayal, who knows what happened in that relationship. she & lb are no longer together so i doubt trust from either end even plays into it. he wrote and still performs go insane which is all about ca, not to mention the entire album. is that any different as songs are tell-alls in & of themselves? i doubt she felt a tremendous sense of privacy or trust when it was released. getting involved with a famous person has a price as that person can give out personal info through words or in this case, songs that you may not want to share with the world. being famous also has its price in that someone may do the same to you in some other way or artform. remember also lb talking about ca's drug habits & infidelities in interviews. not exactly not telling all. who started the ball rolling?

OK, so....I just fell off the turnip truck yesterday. Can you enlighten me on this?

So the song Go Insane is about Carol Ann? People had told me that one song about "Hey Little Girl, Leave a little Drug Alone" was about her, but didn't know Go Insane was. (Is that her on the back side of the LP sitting in the chair?)

I thought Go Insane was about Lindsey being obsessive.

Is there a thread that explains that song, that someone can direct me to?

i just skimmed a good part of the book. nothing she said really surprised me if it's all true. he's got an anger management problem and did a lot of drugs. she claims that he choaked her about 4 times. i didn't see anything written about stevie that was bad - in fact, she enjoyed talking to stevie many times. i did think the part about lindsey throwing up on dick clark's carpet on the night of the ama awards was kind of funny. it sounds like a crazy kind of life. i probably will read the entire book (but with a grain of salt).

i believe the album including title song was dedicated to her & their breakup.

Since when does dedicating an album to someone make every song on that album about them??? No way Go Insane is all about CA anyway. :shrug:


I don't hate the girl but he did support her long after their breakup and writing a tell all after he has become a father is a ****ty thing to do. No way to make it not ****ty no matter how you spin it. How is it going to look to Will and Leelee when they come upon this book ten years from now? Their dad tried to choke her up to four times? Come the F on. She is just trying to cash in on a relationship she had twenty plus years ago. Lindsey made it very clear on his BTM how he felt about the relationship too. He knew it was doomed but stayed in it for much longer than he should have. The spectre of Stevie ruined it.

I thought it didnt come out until Jul 1???
:shrug:

Well, Ill probably get it to use for english next year [its alot more interesting to me, whether the facts are true or not than some novel about some random thing i could care less about ie the princess bride]. But its not as horrible as everyone expected?

Hmmmm.....

Guess I better get me a copy of that Behind the Music. Do they show a picture of Carol Ann on that interview?

(Thanks Kelly and Michelle for your thoughts to my questions. I appreciate the added information. I don't know who this Carol Ann Harris even is...guess if I read the book, I will find out.)

I'm not the least bit surprised Carol Ann had nothing bad to say about Stevie.

STORMS? :lol:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...ollar_bill.jpg

Job well done. :laugh:

Yes, he has said about both relationships with Carol Ann and Cheri that only the first year or so was good.

And Lindsey tried to "choke her" on four different occassions. :o I KNEW she dug rough sex. :laugh:


(please no one go ape****....I know real choking is no joke)

I absolutely agree -- it's a lousy thing to do at this stage in his life.

By the way, the naked girl on the back of Go Insane isn't her. Like I keep saying, it's me. :P

:nod: :nod:

Phony as a $3 bill.:laugh: That's about right.:D

First of all, one poster above argued that turn about is fair play. Lindsey dissed Carol Ann in songs, so she is justified in telling tales out of school, as it were. I respectfully disagree. Why? Well, it's like this. Her revelations about his physical abuse/violence, self destructive drug usage and his lack of concern for/about his break-up with Stevie are not in the same category as L.B.'s observations about Ms. Harris' character flaws and their inability to get along.

Secondly, her motivation is not to be helpful but to be hurtful and if she makes a buck in the process all the better. If you truly care about someone you talk to them, not about them; especially after they willingly (i.e., There was no palimony law suit filed.) paid for your rehab and bought you a house (as he reportedly did) following their break-up. Did Ms. Harris reciprocate in kind? And, the answer is obviously no or she wouldn't be trying to make a buck now. She is a taker and a user like a lot of hangers on in any profession (but especially the entertainment industry) are. These people live vicariously through their artistic paramour. Their talent lies not in their god given talents but in their delusions through their illusions of grandeur.

And, lastly she was not in the band nor worked for or with the band so what she is reporting is gossip/second hand news. Mick can reveal what ever he wants to about FWM, for what ever reasons he wants to, because he is not only in the band, he co-founded the band, so his observations are first hand accountings not second hand gossip from some wanna be who got dumped.

And, a personal aside. If L.B. really wanted to marry her, rest assured they would have married 20 years ago. I'm not buying the b.s. that she turned him down twice. No woman, young or otherwise, invests 7 years in a relationship, without expecting marriage for financial security, if nothing else. And, this woman does not strike me as a loving, free spirited hippie-chick who gave without regards for nothing in return. That sounds more like Stevie. Storms indeed.

CarolC:wavey:

A little bit inside Storms
 

excerpt from Storms: My Life With Lindsey Buckingham and Fleetwood Mac by Carol Ann Harris, 2007:

starting at page 105, as Carol Ann Harris finds Lindsey beginning to have a grand mal seizure in front of her-

"Before I could speak again, before I could touch him, he fell to the floor and started to convulse. He kicked and thrashed, his eyes beseeching me for help, and I didn't know what to do. I threw myself onto the floor next to him and tried to hold his shaking body still, but he seemed as strong as ten men and I was thrown backward, hitting my head on the edge of the coffee table. . . .

Richard! Help us, Richard! Richard, help! Lindsey's dying! Richard, help me!

. . .

After what seemed in eternity I heard a voice say "Front desk," and I yelled shrilly into the receiver, "Get an ambulance for room 7322! Lindsey Buckingham needs paramedics and an ambulance! Now!" [Philadelphia didn't have 911 yet]

. . . "Carol, what's happening? What's wrong with Lindsey?"

I looked up to see Richard standing shirtless in the doorway, staring in horror at Lindsey twisting and turning on the floor. "My God! Lindsey! Carol, I heard your voice. I thought I was dreaming, but when I woke up I could still hear you screaming! What's happening to him, Carol? What's wrong with him?"


. . . I don't know what's wrong. He's had flashes and I thought it was just another one and then he fell, and he started shaking and I can't make him stop, Richard. He won't stop- and I think he might die and I need help . . . .



"Is he going to be okay? Are you taking him to the hospital now?"

"Ma'am, we've been told that a doctor has been called. We want to take him to the hospital- it's just across the street- but Mr. Fleetwood says to wait for the doctor, so that's what we are doing."

....

Looking at Richard for help I started to plead. "Richard. Tell them he has to go to the hospital- you saw how horrible it was! Richard, tell them!" Richard looked about to speak but then shook his head and stared at the floor. His face was almost as white as Lindsey's and I knew that he, too, couldn't believe that the band and the powers that be were putting the show first over Lindsey's ghastly attack.


...

Without meeting my eyes Mick told methat it was best to wait for the doctor. Talking to me like I was a child, he said that the show was huge and it was too late to cancel it. And anyway, maybe Lindsey would be "fine" when he woke up. He wanted to ask Lindsey if he thought he could play after his "little attack."
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The way I see it, Lindsey has quite an effect on the women .... Steve still writes about him in her songs, Carol Ann writes a book about him, remembering all sorts of things from many years ago .... more reason why I want to date that man!

But I also take the book with a grain of salt. The third page of the Introduction (page x) is where I began to have my doubts ... where she writes how Stevie's songs on Rumours, "Dreams" and "I Don't Want to Know" were much kinder towards LB than he was to her on say, GYOW. Stevie didn't even write IDWTK during their breakup ..... (right? I mean, they sing it on the BN tour for crying out loud!)

& this isn't an invasion of their privacy? no woman wants the world to know something like that. not to mention it's a huge cut to them. i know few details about cheri except that there was a car accident when lb was drunk & cheri was messed up. & i read although i couldn't cite the source that cheri was given money if she never talked publicly. someone please correct me if i'm wrong. i love, admire & respect lb but can't look at him as a victim in all this when it's clear he's talked about former gfs in a not-so-redeeming light. anne heche? come? come on.

That's correct. It's one of those songs that was intended for BN2, which means it was probably written somewhere in 1974. They were already having their share of problems back then, but they were still together. It was definitely not written during/about the 1976 break-up.

On one of the limo tapes he is talking about it also, not when they are having that 'group meeting' but actually in the limo, and he's not taking it seriously at all, he's actually joking about it. It came across as Mick believing Lindsey was being a drama queen.

:shocked: that drivel found a publisher?

omg. i could hardly read that excerpt. it is SO bad. so badly written. and we're supposed to believe she remembered exchanges like that word for word?

(insert that awesome barfing smiley here)

here's my thought about why it was delayed - and the fact that it doesn't really contain any of the "juice" it promised:

lawyers.

stevie's. and lindsey's.

Actually, it's well written. I cut a lot out because it would involve a LOT of typing. As Dana mentions, Mick totally seems to disregard the seriousness of the moment. She captures it well. He should have been hospitalized.

^^ sorry, dude. unless you RE-WROTE parts of it, i stand by my assessment.

:laugh: Nope, I'm not a writer.

That's fine. Here's a critic's review:


Publishers Weekly
This is a fascinating if overlong look at the megasuccess of Fleetwood Mac in the mid-1970s, after the former British blues band recorded the laid-back rock songs of guitarist Lindsey Buckingham and singer Stevie Nicks that made the album Rumoursone of the most popular of its era. While working at the band's recording studio, Harris, currently a music business costume designer, became Buckingham's girlfriend and constant companion from 1976 through 1984, and she gives a detailed look-more so than drummer and original member Mick Fleetwood's biography-at this already well-chronicled story of how the success of Rumoursprovided the income for extravagant cocaine-fueled excesses before, during and after performances. Harris too often uses clichés, such as her view of the band's "beautiful insanity." But she does candidly recount Buckingham's rage and his repeated physical assaults on her. Along the way, she offers great descriptions of the band's recording sessions, especially her account of Buckingham's desire to "create something new, something completely" different for Tusk, the more experimental (and less profitable) follow-up to Rumours. (July)