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SteveMacD 04-07-2022 12:56 AM

Ever notice?
 
Mick was topless on the Heroes Are Hard To Find cover and Lindsey and Stevie were topless on the Buckingham Nicks cover, their last projects before the two groups merged?

SteveMacD 04-07-2022 12:57 AM

Buckingham Nicks were popular in a city called Birmingham and Christine was from a city called Birmingham?

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 03:09 AM

That the most famous line from their only US number 1 single ("thunder only happens when it's raining") is patently false?

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 03:18 AM

That there are nine tracks by Lindsey and Stevie, almost exactly equal in duration to the length of the Buckingham Nicks album (approx. 35 minutes), between Christine's songs Think About Me and Brown Eyes on the Tusk album?

SteveMacD 04-07-2022 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273809)
That there are nine tracks by Lindsey and Stevie, almost exactly equal in duration to the length of the Buckingham Nicks album (approx. 35 minutes), between Christine's songs Think About Me and Brown Eyes on the Tusk album?

Yes! That's arguably the only knock I have with Tusk. However, I don't know where I would have put one of Christine's songs in that sequence without killing the flow of the album.

Macfan4life 04-07-2022 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273810)
Yes! That's arguably the only knock I have with Tusk. However, I don't know where I would have put one of Christine's songs in that sequence without killing the flow of the album.

The flow of the album is that there is no flow. You may be used to or familiar with the tracking of all these years though. I dont find it a coincidence that the albums most quirky song The Ledge is followed by the album's most conventional track Think About Me. Christine does disappear midway through and I find that annoying. There is a separate thread around where we played with retracking Tusk and I must say, I vastly improved the album with my tracking :)

Tusk is the only album that gives Stevie an album side lead with Angel. None of her songs are ever the first track on any album side. Being it was a double album with 4 sides is not much of a bragging point. Stevie also never had the lead single off any Mac album. These were subtle ways of trying to remind everyone that Stevie was not the lead singer of the band. Holding her to only 3 songs held Mirage back because she was on fire during that time. Book of Love or Diane could have been dropped (or both) for Smile At You and Mirage would have been so much better. Even with BTM, the band held to this tradition.

On Ice 04-07-2022 07:08 AM

Lots of coincidences there, fun to read through them. I think I wore out my Tusk vinyl back in the day and didn't really pay much attention to Christine's disappearance, but in hindsight, wow, she's barely noticeable through those tracks, but makes up for it from Brown Eyes on. With Mirage, totally agree about Stevie's song count I would say at minimum one more song, definitely Smile at You, but If You Were My Love was pretty close to being fleshed out and could've featured enough Buckingham to axe his weaker songs, which coincidentally, weigh the album down.

jbrownsjr 04-07-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by On Ice (Post 1273813)
Lots of coincidences there, fun to read through them. I think I wore out my Tusk vinyl back in the day and didn't really pay much attention to Christine's disappearance, but in hindsight, wow, she's barely noticeable through those tracks, but makes up for it from Brown Eyes on. With Mirage, totally agree about Stevie's song count I would say at minimum one more song, definitely Smile at You, but If You Were My Love was pretty close to being fleshed out and could've featured enough Buckingham to axe his weaker songs, which coincidentally, weigh the album down.

Smile At You and take out Oh Diane. (Oh no, here I go, again)

jbrownsjr 04-07-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273808)
That the most famous line from their only US number 1 single ("thunder only happens when it's raining") is patently false?

But the clouds, never expect it when it rains. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 09:29 AM

Did you ever notice...
 
That the album titles on Tango In The Night and Greatest Hits use the same font (I think Times New Roman) and small caps, and that the mingled wash of olive green and yellow on Greatest Hits is similar to part of the sky on Tango In The Night?

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 09:30 AM

Did you ever notice...
 
That there is a penguin on the cover of Tango In The Night?

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 09:37 AM

Put Book Of Love right back on the album where it belongs, please.
Feel free to sub out Straight Blecch for Smile At You, though.

Oh Diane was a surprise hit for the band. It's on the UK and antipodean versions of the Greatest Hits album. I think of it as Fleetwood Mac's Fernando for some reason. I've always appreciated the song on a deeper level since hearing the theory that the lyrics can be heard as "Oh dying" and "life is like a grain of sand, slowly slipping through your hand."

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 09:48 AM

Ever notice...
 
That Lindsey, Christine, and Stevie each have the letter "I" in both their first and last names.

Lindsey Buckingham
Stevie/Stephanie Nicks
Christine McVie

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 09:57 AM

Did you ever notice...
 
That, at 7 words and 28 letters, What Makes You Think You're The One is the longest song title of a Rumours era album track?

Another Buckingham track, Murrow Turning Over In His Grave, is runner up, at 6 words and 27 letters.

HomerMcvie 04-07-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1273811)
Book of Love or Diane could have been dropped (or both) for Smile At You and Mirage would have been so much better. Even with BTM, the band held to this tradition.

You STAY TF away from Book Of Love. :mad:

Can't Go Back and Book Of Love are the AURAL CANDY that makes Mirage magical to me.

DownOnRodeo 04-07-2022 10:01 AM

Did you ever notice...
 
That Only Over You is the only Fleetwood Mac album track released in the 1980s on which Christine has a sole writing credit?

Likewise, the song Behind The Mask is the only Fleetwood Mac studio album track released in the 90s on which she has a sole writing credit.

Macfan4life 04-07-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273822)
You STAY TF away from Book Of Love. :mad:

Can't Go Back and Book Of Love are the AURAL CANDY that makes Mirage magical to me.

Side 2 Lindsey songs stay.
There is little consensus on this board but a few months ago with the least favorite Lindsey songs, Oh Diane was all over it (now that I said that the Oh Diane crowd will strike back).
On Mirage we get a country Stevie with That's Alright, a pop Stevie with Gypsy, a rock Stevie with Straight back. We need that angry Stevie to complete the circle. Smile at You was so needed on Mirage. Something has to go. Oh Diane for sure. For an extended Smile at you, Book of Love is the vice. Or maybe just maybe a re-recorded Oh Daddy would be nice ;)

HomerMcvie 04-07-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1273824)
Side 2 Lindsey songs stay.
There is little consensus on this board but a few months ago with the least favorite Lindsey songs, Oh Diane was all over it (now that I said that the Oh Diane crowd will strike back).
On Mirage we get a country Stevie with That's Alright, a pop Stevie with Gypsy, a rock Stevie with Straight back. We need that angry Stevie to complete the circle. Smile at You was so needed on Mirage. Something has to go. Oh Diane for sure. For an extended Smile at you, Book of Love is the vice. Or maybe just maybe a re-recorded Oh Daddy would be nice ;)

Of course you're right.

You're seemingly right about everything.

At least that's what you tell us. :laugh:

justanotherliar 04-07-2022 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273806)
Mick was topless on the Heroes Are Hard To Find cover and Lindsey and Stevie were topless on the Buckingham Nicks cover, their last projects before the two groups merged?

And, not long after the release of the BuckinghamMcvie album, Stevie and Mick were completely $hamele$$..

jbrownsjr 04-07-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273822)
You STAY TF away from Book Of Love. :mad:

Can't Go Back and Book Of Love are the AURAL CANDY that makes Mirage magical to me.

I agree. Love both songs.

jbrownsjr 04-07-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273825)
Of course you're right.

You're seemingly right about everything.

At least that's what you tell us. :laugh:

Macfan is always right, that's what so wrong about 'em.

jbrownsjr 04-07-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by justanotherliar (Post 1273826)
And, not long after the release of the BuckinghamMcvie album, Stevie and Mick were completely $hamele$$..

Naked under cover vs. on the cover.

HomerMcvie 04-07-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1273827)
I agree. Love both songs.

That's because we have excellent taste!

HomerMcvie 04-07-2022 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1273829)
Macfan is always right, that's what so wrong about 'em.

Lort, don't feed that massive ego! :mad:




:D

Macfan4life 04-07-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273825)
Of course you're right.

You're seemingly right about everything.

At least that's what you tell us. :laugh:


You know what. You can ride high atop your pony

Santa Claus knows who's naughty or nice. I know who's wrong or right. If it was not for me Little Lies would not have been a hit.

I KNOW I'M NOT WRONG

HomerMcvie 04-07-2022 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1273834)
Santa Claus knows who's naughty or nice. I know who's wrong or right. If it was not for me Little Lies would not have been a hit.

I KNOW I'M NOT WRONG


You know what. You can ride high atop your pony

Everyone likes to think about me being naughty, but I'm nice, as long as you follow. Now won't you save me a place, or that's all for everyone.

SteveMacD 04-07-2022 03:37 PM

I say replace the sonic and lyrical dread that is “Empire State” with a Stevie song.

BombaySapphire3 04-07-2022 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273818)

Oh Diane was a surprise hit for the band. It's on the UK and antipodean versions of the Greatest Hits album. I think of it as Fleetwood Mac's Fernando for some reason. I've always appreciated the song on a deeper level since hearing the theory that the lyrics can be heard as "Oh dying" and "life is like a grain of sand, slowly slipping through your hand."

Hmm Fernando was a decent sized hit in the states too though almost top ten. Maybe Oh Diane is more like Fleetwood Mac's Chiquitita?:lol:

Macfan4life 04-07-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1273837)
Hmm Fernando was a decent sized hit in the states too though almost top ten. Maybe Oh Diane is more like Fleetwood Mac's Chiquitita?:lol:

Ha!
Let's be clear. NONE of the Mirage songs suck. They are all really good. But when you have better material Oh Diane needs left as a B side or left as a demo somewhere. You gotta make decisions. I do love when the band lip synced it to that dance club. King of Pops in England? I forget. They were so rich with songs and Lindsey got too many and Stevie got so few. I get it, Stevie just came off a #1 solo album and her space was limited

jbrownsjr 04-07-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273836)
I say replace the sonic and lyrical dread that is “Empire State” with a Stevie song.

Come what may, Mr. SteveMac. But, that's not how we do it in LA.

bombaysaffires 04-07-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1273815)
But the clouds, never expect it when it rains. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

But the sea changes color, but the sea does not change

jbrownsjr 04-07-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1273842)
But the sea changes color, but the sea does not change

Yea, but have you ever heard another voice call through the door?

rhiannondontgo 04-08-2022 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273808)
That the most famous line from their only US number 1 single ("thunder only happens when it's raining") is patently false?

Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it only called a landslide when it’s land (I.e dirt, mud, rocks, etc) falling and an avalanche when it’s snow falling? Since the song is set in snow-covered Aspen, wouldn’t anything falling down be an avalanche and not a landslide?

HomerMcvie 04-08-2022 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo (Post 1273861)
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it only called a landslide when it’s land (I.e dirt, mud, rocks, etc) falling and an avalanche when it’s snow falling? Since the song is set in snow-covered Aspen, wouldn’t anything falling down be an avalanche and not a landslide?

$he's also been in the Army for 47 years, so $he's not the brightest bulb on the tree.

SteveMacD 04-08-2022 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo (Post 1273861)
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it only called a landslide when it’s land (I.e dirt, mud, rocks, etc) falling and an avalanche when it’s snow falling? Since the song is set in snow-covered Aspen, wouldn’t anything falling down be an avalanche and not a landslide?

You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan.

Seriously, in her defense, "Well the avalanche will bring you down" doesn't sound as poetic.

aleuzzi 04-08-2022 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273823)
That Only Over You is the only Fleetwood Mac album track released in the 1980s on which Christine has a sole writing credit?

Likewise, the song Behind The Mask is the only Fleetwood Mac studio album track released in the 90s on which she has a sole writing credit.

Very interesting. But actually Christine has sole writing credit on Everywhere, too.

Still, I think what this shows us is that she is much more generous with co-authorship.

DownOnRodeo 04-09-2022 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1273864)
Christine has sole writing credit on Everywhere, too.

Oops, I acted peculiarly. :laugh:

Macfan4life 04-09-2022 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273865)
Oops, I acted peculiarly. :laugh:

Nah, that's just what your friends say

aleuzzi 04-09-2022 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273865)
Oops, I acted peculiarly. :laugh:

Hey, they say I’m a silly girl, too, so…

Technically, One More Night is sole writing credit, too, but it’s not for a studio album…

jbrownsjr 04-09-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1273865)
Oops, I acted peculiarly. :laugh:

I thought you were so so so sincere.


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