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ricohv 05-07-2022 10:21 PM

JazzFest Setlist and videos
 
Here's tonight's set list:
1) Outside the rain
2) Dreams
3) If Anyone Falls
4) Enchanted
5) Wild Heart
6) SDMHA
7) Rhiannon
8) Gypsy
9) Bella Donna
10) Landslide (dedicated to Taylor Hawkins)
11) Gold Dust Woman
12) Stand Back
13) Free Fallin'
14) Edge of 17
15) New Orleans
16) Rock n Roll
The only video so far on Youtube (Outside/Dreams): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs1QFyS9FBI
Hopefully more will be posted soon. The only thing I find interesting with the setlist is that it appears she performed Bella Donna and Wild Heart separately instead of as a medley. I like the long curly hair and it seems she's singing on par with her last live shows. I'm not thrilled with setlist or current sound but I guess I'm happy she's not wearing the sailor coat. It's the little things , lol. :D Oh, and these aviators are slightly less bothersome than other pairs I've seen her wear. :sorry:
Also, I wasn't there...I copied the setlist from setlist.fm in case there's any mistakes.

ricohv 05-07-2022 11:56 PM

Landslide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISxhGyYqeZM

ricohv 05-07-2022 11:58 PM

Edge of 17: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGkVnjN8DNA

rhiannondontgo 05-08-2022 12:07 AM

Loved seeing the videos from today. And love her hair!

Kind of a boring set list but makes sense for the festival circuit, most people there are casual fans and won’t want to sit through new or obscure stuff.

The combo of the messy hair/red backdrop/chill festival vibe really reminds me of her at Woodstock 98, which is still one of my favorite shows to put on while doing housework :)

Also awesome to see Benmont back with her for these shows. Seems like Stevie doesn’t wanna go anywhere now without an Emotional Support Heartbreaker lol.

sue 05-08-2022 02:37 AM

She looks fab, different hairstyle and wow wow…not totally black outfit.
Love the jacket and waistcoat (is it ?)

But I do wish she wouldn’t shout it makes her voice so harsh.
Having said that…
She sounded good, she needs a different voice coach and she’d sound great.

Can’t wait to see other vids.

mtkad 05-08-2022 03:31 AM

All of the high notes now gone from Dreams (not the really high falsetto-ish notes she hasn't sang in decades). It really flattens the melody and effect overall! IMO she should really considering transposing some songs.

UnwindedDreams 05-08-2022 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo (Post 1274397)
Kind of a boring set list but makes sense for the festival circuit, most people there are casual fans and won’t want to sit through new or obscure stuff.

The combo of the messy hair/red backdrop/chill festival vibe really reminds me of her at Woodstock 98, which is still one of my favorite shows to put on while doing housework :)

You don't think Show Them The Way would've had the place hopping?

Yasgur Farm was amazing. Whole Lotta Trouble, Twisted, Garbo, Sleeping Angel.

I wonder why she doesn't just throw Rooms on Fire, Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Whole Lotta Trouble, and Blue Denim in this festival set and make it a true classics set.

BigAl84 05-08-2022 10:29 AM

She was in the hospital with double pneumonia after the rock and roll half of fame induction a few years back. I wonder if what we’re seeing on Dreams is a result of those health issues or she’s rusty from not being on the road for three years.

Villavic 05-08-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1274396)

I think Sharon Celani is there. The other girl, I can't recognize.

rhiannondontgo 05-08-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1274402)
I think Sharon Celani is there. The other girl, I can't recognize.

Marilyn Martin

ricohv 05-08-2022 12:17 PM

Gypsy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z11lQA2gLLQ

Macfan4life 05-08-2022 12:26 PM

16 songs....I'm impressed and I am not being sarcastic. I would have guessed 13 at the most. If she really performed Wild Heart and Bella Donna separately, that's really cool.

bwboy 05-08-2022 01:06 PM

My thoughts:

- She’s in her 70s, so however she sounds on Dreams is probably due to that rather than pneumonia from years ago.

- Rooms on Fire, I Can’t Wait, Talk to Me, etc would have been preferable to Gypsy, Gold Dust Woman, and Rock and Roll.

- I doubt Wild Heart and Bella Donna were performed separately; more likely she didn’t do her big talk about each of them like she did on her last solo tour, and they probably just blended into each other like Outside the Rain and Dreams.

- I would say this set list likely won’t change for her next few gigs this year, and if they do, it’ll probably be a slightly shorter set.

UnwindedDreams 05-08-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1274406)
My thoughts:

- She’s in her 70s, so however she sounds on Dreams is probably due to that rather than pneumonia from years ago.

- Rooms on Fire, I Can’t Wait, Talk to Me, etc would have been preferable to Gypsy, Gold Dust Woman, and Rock and Roll.

- I doubt Wild Heart and Bella Donna were performed separately; more likely she didn’t do her big talk about each of them like she did on her last solo tour, and they probably just blended into each other like Outside the Rain and Dreams.

- I would say this set list likely won’t change for her next few gigs this year, and if they do, it’ll probably be a slightly shorter set.

But not Free Fallin'?

I don't get the Wild Heart and Bella Donna sampling. Play the whole songs.

ricohv 05-08-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1274407)
But not Free Fallin'?

I don't get the Wild Heart and Bella Donna sampling. Play the whole songs.

I agree! I don't think she could pull off Wild Heart with as much gusto as that song would need but I bet she could do Bella Donna.

UnwindedDreams 05-08-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1274408)
I agree! I don't think she could pull off Wild Heart with as much gusto as that song would need but I bet she could do Bella Donna.

Maybe it's because they're not really well known songs so she shortens them for people's attention spans.

Wild Heart deserves to be played in full. That whole song is one of her masterpieces.

Thank you so much for sharing the videos from last night. I noticed there weren't any strobe lights or anything during Edge. Very different stage setup than when she played the big festival in Hyde Park London!

bwboy 05-08-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1274407)
But not Free Fallin'?

I don't get the Wild Heart and Bella Donna sampling. Play the whole songs.

I don’t like her recorded version of Free Falling, but it sure was effective when she performed it live with Fleetwood Mac. But I agree with you, she should have replaced it with one of her solo hits, I just forgot to specifically mention that song.

With Covid, she probably didn’t get to practice as much before this gig, so the band just played Wild Heart and Bella Donna the way they had during 24 Karat. Both songs are fairly long anyway, so even only playing half of each song was still pretty long.

Considering her age, I have lower expectations for seeing her live. Same thing with Christine and Lindsey. I understand their songs aren’t going to sound as good live. They’re in their 70s. It’s amazing none of them are using walkers. Phil Collins did the Genesis tour sitting on a stool and not playing drums. Unfortunate but it sounds like it was an entertaining show and he probably felt great being on stage again. I say go see all these folks live in concert while you have the opportunity and they’re able to perform.

BLY 05-08-2022 08:09 PM

As much as I hate to say this… Stevie should retire her live shows. This chapter has closed as it also has with Fleetwood Mac live.

bwboy 05-08-2022 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1274412)
As much as I hate to say this… Stevie should retire her live shows. This chapter has closed as it also has with Fleetwood Mac live.

You don’t have to hate to say that, it’s your opinion. So don’t go to her concerts or watch her live videos on YouTube, and problem solved. Then let the other folks who want to spend money go see her and enjoy themselves, just like they do with Dolly Parton, The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle, and any other singer who’s in their 70s but still performing. I mean, if Abba toured again, I’d go and see them, knowing perfectly well it wouldn’t be the same as seeing them live 40 years ago.

DownOnRodeo 05-09-2022 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1274394)
I like the long curly hair

She's going for the Waddy look.

rhiannondontgo 05-09-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1274413)
You don’t have to hate to say that, it’s your opinion. So don’t go to her concerts or watch her live videos on YouTube, and problem solved. Then let the other folks who want to spend money go see her and enjoy themselves, just like they do with Dolly Parton, The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle, and any other singer who’s in their 70s but still performing. I mean, if Abba toured again, I’d go and see them, knowing perfectly well it wouldn’t be the same as seeing them live 40 years ago.

Yeah, this. Honestly I’d pay to watch her sit in a rocking chair knitting a sweater on stage :laugh: I’ve never really given a **** what she (or anyone else in her age group) sounds like during live shows. With me, it’s kind of like when my kid draws me a picture. I don’t actually care if it’s a good picture. I just immediately smile and hang it on the fridge. I love every picture because I love her. And I think of old ass icons the same way. Just thrilled to have the chance to be in the presence of someone who means a lot to me, since they won’t be here forever.

DashingDan 05-09-2022 09:22 AM

What a lovely analogy. Thank you for sharing that.

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Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo (Post 1274416)
With me, it’s kind of like when my kid draws me a picture. I don’t actually care if it’s a good picture. I just immediately smile and hang it on the fridge. I love every picture because I love her.


gjack5404 05-09-2022 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo (Post 1274416)
Yeah, this. Honestly I’d pay to watch her sit in a rocking chair knitting a sweater on stage :laugh: I’ve never really given a **** what she (or anyone else in her age group) sounds like during live shows. With me, it’s kind of like when my kid draws me a picture. I don’t actually care if it’s a good picture. I just immediately smile and hang it on the fridge. I love every picture because I love her. And I think of old ass icons the same way. Just thrilled to have the chance to be in the presence of someone who means a lot to me, since they won’t be here forever.

I love what you said. I decided on Saturday to drive from Florida to New Orleans to catch this show. I was not disappointed. Like this post, I am just so happy to be in her presence. It takes me away to another place and just totally relaxes me. Now, in hindsight, I hate that I started my leaving during the Edge thinking that would be the last song. I loved everything about the show and will go again if she comes anywhere near me. She did join Wild Heart and Bella Donna and briefly mentioned the shawl at the end of the song. I don't know how many people were there-I feel upwards of 50K and everyone seemed to really be into the show. She looked amazing and sounded amazing, in my opinion. Just so happy for the chance to see her again. This is probably my 100th time seeing her (just kidding but probably close) and I can close my eyes and imagine the high kicks and wild dancing of her younger days, but that voice also just takes me away.

David 05-09-2022 01:00 PM

She did a great job here. Glad to see her back out on the road — for a million reasons.

sleepless child 05-10-2022 08:14 AM

I'm glad the fingerless gloves are gone. And I love the little boots.

bwboy 05-10-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gjack5404 (Post 1274422)
I love what you said. I decided on Saturday to drive from Florida to New Orleans to catch this show. I was not disappointed. Like this post, I am just so happy to be in her presence. It takes me away to another place and just totally relaxes me. Now, in hindsight, I hate that I started my leaving during the Edge thinking that would be the last song. I loved everything about the show and will go again if she comes anywhere near me. She did join Wild Heart and Bella Donna and briefly mentioned the shawl at the end of the song. I don't know how many people were there-I feel upwards of 50K and everyone seemed to really be into the show. She looked amazing and sounded amazing, in my opinion. Just so happy for the chance to see her again. This is probably my 100th time seeing her (just kidding but probably close) and I can close my eyes and imagine the high kicks and wild dancing of her younger days, but that voice also just takes me away.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Sounds like you had a great time! I hate large crowds, so being around 50K people would have freaked me out.

UnwindedDreams 05-10-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1274413)
You don’t have to hate to say that, it’s your opinion. So don’t go to her concerts or watch her live videos on YouTube, and problem solved. Then let the other folks who want to spend money go see her and enjoy themselves, just like they do with Dolly Parton, The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, Loretta Lynn, Crystal Gayle, and any other singer who’s in their 70s but still performing. I mean, if Abba toured again, I’d go and see them, knowing perfectly well it wouldn’t be the same as seeing them live 40 years ago.

I don't think it's respectful to say to BLY to not go to concerts or watch YouTube videos. I mean YouTube is free so why not watch the videos:laugh: And why is there a problem needing to be solved? They didn't say I can't listen to her ever again.
As you stated, they don't feel Stevie or FM should continue their live shows; that feeling is not a "problem."
People are free to critique performances. I love Stevie and I watched the Jazz Fest performance of Gypsy, and it sounded very different from her 2016 performances. The "you see your Gypsy"s have dropped in range. If I paid $500-$1,500 to see her sing like that, I'd be disappointed.

Mick Jagger and Keith sound amazing.

bwboy 05-10-2022 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1274450)
I don't think it's respectful to say to BLY to not go to concerts or watch YouTube videos. I mean YouTube is free so why not watch the videos:laugh: And why is there a problem needing to be solved? They didn't say I can't listen to her ever again.
As you stated, they don't feel Stevie or FM should continue their live shows; that feeling is not a "problem."
People are free to critique performances. I love Stevie and I watched the Jazz Fest performance of Gypsy, and it sounded very different from her 2016 performances. The "you see your Gypsy"s have dropped in range. If I paid $500-$1,500 to see her sing like that, I'd be disappointed.

Mick Jagger and Keith sound amazing.

Critiquing a performance is fine… saying someone should quit touring is a different thing. I definitely did not mean to be disrespectful to BLY, and I don’t think I was. If I hate horror movies, I could say I hate them and they shouldn’t be made anymore; or I could just say, I hate horror movies, so I don’t watch them. I wouldn’t say they shouldn’t be made anymore. For me to say, I don’t think Pat Benatar should tour anymore because she can’t sing as well as she did 40 years ago, or 10 years ago, or 2 years ago, is disrespectful, I think. Why rain on people’s parade, you know what I mean? When I saw Blondie several years back and was telling some friends what a great show it was, one friend said “oh my god, she’s still touring?” Why my friend was so irritated about Blondie touring I have no idea.

UnwindedDreams 05-10-2022 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1274451)
Critiquing a performance is fine… saying someone should quit touring is a different thing. I definitely did not mean to be disrespectful to BLY, and I don’t think I was. If I hate horror movies, I could say I hate them and they shouldn’t be made anymore; or I could just say, I hate horror movies, so I don’t watch them. I wouldn’t say they shouldn’t be made anymore. For me to say, I don’t think Pat Benatar should tour anymore because she can’t sing as well as she did 40 years ago, or 10 years ago, or 2 years ago, is disrespectful, I think. Why rain on people’s parade, you know what I mean? When I saw Blondie several years back and was telling some friends what a great show it was, one friend said “oh my god, she’s still touring?” Why my friend was so irritated about Blondie touring I have no idea.

So should posts in this thread about this live concert or videos of this concert only be praise for the performances?

Maybe the moderators will advise.

HomerMcvie 05-10-2022 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1274452)
So should posts in this thread about this live concert or videos of this concert only be praise for the performances?

Maybe the moderators will advise.

Michele has always appreciated honesty. I'd say post away with whatever!

UnwindedDreams 05-11-2022 06:13 AM

This is a good Rhiannon from New Orleans and sounds like Stevie in 2003!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQJsXWsZepQ

SteveMacD 05-11-2022 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1274452)
So should posts in this thread about this live concert or videos of this concert only be praise for the performances?

Eh, I guess I didn’t disagree.

I think she sounds rough and I probably won’t be seeing her, but if people are still willing to pay to see her, who am I to argue?

I could have lived without Stevie’s singing for well over 30 years.

bombaysaffires 05-12-2022 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1274468)
This is a good Rhiannon from New Orleans and sounds like Stevie in 2003!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQJsXWsZepQ

:distress:

Not good. :( I prefer to not contaminate my memories of why she used to be so amazing with this sadness.

UnwindedDreams 05-12-2022 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1274503)
Eh, I guess I didn’t disagree.

I think she sounds rough and I probably won’t be seeing her, but if people are still willing to pay to see her, who am I to argue?

I could have lived without Stevie’s singing for well over 30 years.

People pay to see Jon Bon Jovi and is voice is rough now. We all need our entertainment!

HomerMcvie 05-12-2022 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1274537)
People pay to see Jon Bon Jovi and is voice is rough now. We all need our entertainment!

I've got a concert DVD of him that's probably 15 years old, and he was singing the high parts an octave down, BACK THEN!

SteveMacD 05-12-2022 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1274541)
I've got a concert DVD of him that's probably 15 years old, and he was singing the high parts an octave down, BACK THEN!

He sang something a year or two ago, either for a charity or maybe the inauguration that was ghastly.

Macfan4life 05-13-2022 03:53 AM

I think Stevie sounded pretty good. Unlike many she does not use pre-recorded vocal tracks. Her voice is not like it used to be but its fine.

Now you want to hear bad singing? When I saw this last year, I thought it was a parody. Has anyone heard Vince Neil sing lately? He is so fat busting through his shirt and the words he sings sound like a completely different set of words. You have to see this to believe it. Just imagine if Vince was a woman who put on this weight and sounded so bad what people would say? This is ridiculous and everyone needs to see this :lol: And no doubt the back up vocals are pre-recorded. In all fairness, Vince has a tremendous amount of energy for being in his third trimester.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJ8OWcFmCk

Steviegirl 05-16-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1274554)
I think Stevie sounded pretty good. Unlike many she does not use pre-recorded vocal tracks. Her voice is not like it used to be but its fine.

Now you want to hear bad singing? When I saw this last year, I thought it was a parody. Has anyone heard Vince Neil sing lately? He is so fat busting through his shirt and the words he sings sound like a completely different set of words. You have to see this to believe it. Just imagine if Vince was a woman who put on this weight and sounded so bad what people would say? This is ridiculous and everyone needs to see this :lol: And no doubt the back up vocals are pre-recorded. In all fairness, Vince has a tremendous amount of energy for being in his third trimester.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTJ8OWcFmCk

THIS is the funniest thing ever!:lol:


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