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dougl 05-04-2020 08:14 PM

Got A Hold On Me
 
Edit:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n2HbBh526Sw

HomerMcvie 05-04-2020 11:17 PM

Have you never seen the Christine live concert video? A bunch of live songs, and the two released videos(Got a Hold on Me, and Love Will Show Us How).

It's pretty good. It was only released on VHS, but someone converted it to DVD for a few of us, a few years ago.

HomerMcvie 05-05-2020 12:30 AM

BTW, who here knows who ELSE is playing keyboards on Chris' solo tour.

I'm watching the video now, and somebody is playing the accordion parts on I'm So Excited, and it's not Chris... Was there an addition hidden guy(as they did it back then)?

Jbrownsjr, it was mostly club dates, right? It would be hard to hide an additional player in a club.

Maybe they just overdubbed it later for the video?

Macfan4life 05-05-2020 05:11 AM

Eddy Quintela played keyboards on her solo tour when she took the center stage mic. Not sure if he was hidden on other songs.

jbrownsjr 05-05-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1257669)
BTW, who here knows who ELSE is playing keyboards on Chris' solo tour.

I'm watching the video now, and somebody is playing the accordion parts, and it's not Chris... Was there an addition hidden guy(as they did it back then)?

Jbrownsjr, it was mostly club dates, right? It would be hard to hide an additional player in a club.

Maybe they just overdubbed it later for the video?

Eddy. But she didn't cheat like she does now. She would play the grand piano while he was on keys. Then he would take a break while she was at her rack.

With 2 guitars, a elect keyboard, B3, and a grand piano (in a club, can you imagine?) They covered everything so nicely.

michelej1 05-07-2020 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1257668)
Have you never seen the Christine live concert video? A bunch of live songs, and the two released videos(Got a Hold on Me, and Love Will Show Us How).

It's pretty good. It was only released on VHS, but someone converted it to DVD for a few of us, a few years ago.

And laser disc right? I think I have the laser disc, but I don’t have anything to play at on. I never did. However I do still have VCRs that work, both beta and VHS.

HomerMcvie 05-07-2020 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1257719)
And laser disc right? I think I have the laser disc, but I don’t have anything to play at on. I never did. However I do still have VCRs that work, both beta and VHS.

Yes to laser disk. I think Mirage was also on laser disk. I know Mick's The Visitor was(RCA needed material for the new medium).

I remember a friend selling the Christine? laser disk, after no one was using that format any longer. I should have bought it, but I was poor back then, I figured I'd never have a way of playing it.

I have Mirage on Betamax! I talked my Mom into buying that format. :lol:

Macfan4life 05-07-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1257719)
And laser disc right? I think I have the laser disc, but I don’t have anything to play at on. I never did. However I do still have VCRs that work, both beta and VHS.

You brought back such a memory. I remember seeing the Mirage concert on HBO. Shortly after I was at the mall and they had it on laser disc. I remember just holding it in my hands and fantasizing about buying it and owning a laser disk. We did not even own a VCR until late 1984 or 1985. I also remember seeing Christine's concert also on laser disc and thinking how lucky people were to own a laser disc player. I knew it cost too much money but I wanted to almost ask my parents to buy a laser disc strictly so I could watch these concerts. Of course I did not waste my time because where I came from only rich people owned laser disc players.

Speaking of Christine's solo concert. My first E-bay purchase EVER in 2000 was a VHS copy of the 1983 solo show. YouTube did not exist then and I was SO happy that almost 20 years later I could FINALLY see this concert that I saw in the laser disc store.
These kids today don't realize how lucky they are. With one google hit they can watch concerts and get set lists like nothing.

HomerMcvie 05-07-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1257759)
You brought back such a memory. I remember seeing the Mirage concert on HBO. Shortly after I was at the mall and they had it on laser disc. I remember just holding it in my hands and fantasizing about buying it and owning a laser disk. We did not even own a VCR until late 1984 or 1985. I also remember seeing Christine's concert also on laser disc and thinking how lucky people were to own a laser disc player. I knew it cost too much money but I wanted to almost ask my parents to buy a laser disc strictly so I could watch these concerts. Of course I did not waste my time because where I came from only rich people owned laser disc players.

Speaking of Christine's solo concert. My first E-bay purchase EVER in 2000 was a VHS copy of the 1983 solo show. YouTube did not exist then and I was SO happy that almost 20 years later I could FINALLY see this concert that I saw in the laser disc store.
These kids today don't realize how lucky they are. With one google hit they can watch concerts and get set lists like nothing.

Exactly. We were too poor, too. Talking my Mom into any sort of player was a miracle(I remember our Betamax player was $300. That seemed like a lot of money in the 80's).

My first eBay purchase around the same time was original Johnny Cash sheet music for Ring of Fire(yes, I like country, too[see why I hate Come?]).

But I bought the Christine VHS tape, too. Still have it(of course). I was very thankful for whoever converted it to DVD, and sent me a copy(sorry, I don't remember now, we used to do so much trading...). I want to say it was David, but my memory is purposefully fuzzy! :lol::lol::lol:

On kids being so lucky - there are SO MANY amazing young players now. I think far more than back in our day. I really think it's because of the internet. Kids can get on Youtube and get a free tutorial from a guy with Eddie Van Halen chops!

Macfan4life 05-07-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1257760)
Exactly. We were too poor, too. Talking my Mom into any sort of player was a miracle(I remember our Betamax player was $300. That seemed like a lot of money in the 80's).

My first eBay purchase around the same time was original Johnny Cash sheet music for Ring of Fire(yes, I like country, too[see why I hate Come?]).

But I bought the Christine VHS tape, too. Still have it(of course). I was very thankful for whoever converted it to DVD, and sent me a copy(sorry, I don't remember now, we used to do so much trading...). I want to say it was David, but my memory is purposefully fuzzy! :lol::lol::lol:

On kids being so lucky - there are SO MANY amazing young players now. I think far more than back in our day. I really think it's because of the internet. Kids can get on Youtube and get a free tutorial from a guy with Eddie Van Halen chops!

We were not poor. We were (lower) middle class but no way in the world my parents would buy such a piece of technology. I had Atari and we had HBO so some may have thought I was spoiled :)

HomerMcvie 05-07-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1257762)
We were not poor. We were (lower) middle class but no way in the world my parents would buy such a piece of technology. I had Atari and we had HBO so some may have thought I was spoiled :)

We had money until my Dad left us when I was nine. Then we lived on the other side of the mirror, uh, tracks! So I've lived with both. Money doesn't buy happiness, but it sure buys distraction.

Dragon 05-24-2020 09:19 AM

I wish "Got a Hold on Me" had greater airplay and Steve Winwood collaborated more.

BLY 05-24-2020 09:51 AM

Got a Hold on Me did get a lot of airplay when it came out in 1984. After the big radio hit with Hold Me from MIRAGE two years prior it was due time to hear a new Christine tune on the radio. I still believe to this day if this would have been a Fleetwood Mac tune it would have been much more of a success. Fleetwood Mac should have released an album in 1984. AT THEIR PRIME!

Macfan4life 05-24-2020 10:09 AM

Got A Hold On Me was a huge hit. All top 10 hits are big hits. In the peak of video days, her videos were heavily played.
The only part I did not like about Got A Hold On Me was the butcher that cut Christine's hair with a knife prior to the video shoot. OMG. Christine was relatively young and only 2 years off the Mirage tour which she was beautiful and hot and it looked like she aged 20 years with that horrible hair cut :eek:

Chris stated she never wanted to do this solo album but Warner Brothers pushed hard and I am sure she got a nice incentive to do it. Todd's co-writing was Christine's request so she did not have to do the entire album herself. At the time, I liked the new concept or sound. However looking back, I wish Chris was forced to do the album alone. We would have gotten a few more Christine hits IMHO (especially if she brought in Lindsey for a little more than just guitar).

aleuzzi 05-26-2020 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1258192)
Got a Hold on Me did get a lot of airplay when it came out in 1984. After the big radio hit with Hold Me from MIRAGE two years prior it was due time to hear a new Christine tune on the radio. I still believe to this day if this would have been a Fleetwood Mac tune it would have been much more of a success. Fleetwood Mac should have released an album in 1984. AT THEIR PRIME!

Lindsey could have helped her with the chorus on this one. The verses are great, recognizable, classic Christine (and very Mac-like) but I never found the chorus on this (or on Love Will Show Us How) terribly convincing. Still, the song WAS widely played on the radio for a solid year.

The non-hits hold up better: Smile I Live For, Ask Anybody, One in a Million, and So Excited.

HomerMcvie 05-26-2020 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1258230)
Lindsey could have helped her with the chorus on this one. The verses are great, recognizable, classic Christine (and very Mac-like) but I never found the chorus on this (or on Love Will Show Us How) terribly convincing. Still, the song WAS widely played on the radio for a solid year.

The non-hits hold up better: Smile I Live For, Ask Anybody, One in a Million, and So Excited.

I still occasionally hear Got a Hold on Me in stores.

jbrownsjr 05-27-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258232)
I still occasionally hear Got a Hold on Me in stores.

I've been hearing it a lot!! CVS mainly. But, I heard it in Ralphs. I always stop and move under a speaker. :laugh::wavey:

HomerMcvie 05-27-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1258235)
I've been hearing it a lot!! CVS mainly. But, I heard it in Ralphs. I always stop and move under a speaker. :laugh::wavey:

I would NEVER leave a store if a FM song is on. As IF!!!:mad::mad::mad:

jbrownsjr 05-27-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258236)
I would NEVER leave a store if a FM song is on. As IF!!!:mad::mad::mad:

You still love your back-stabbing Queen and First Lady!! I get it. :woohoo:

HomerMcvie 05-27-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1258237)
You still love your back-stabbing Queen and First Lady!! I get it. :woohoo:

She'll always be my favorite. But she lost my respect. Chaise lounge Christine folds like a cheap lawn chair, has no spine, and doesn't stand up for her friends. Company shill!!!!

jbrownsjr 05-27-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258238)
She'll always be my favorite. But she lost my respect. Chaise lounge Christine folds like a cheap lawn chair, has no spine, and doesn't stand up for her friends. Company shill!!!!

You can't stop thinking about her, everyday and night.

HomerMcvie 05-27-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1258239)
You can't stop thinking about her, everyday and night.

Yeah, but they used to be positive thoughts. Now they're thoughts of disappointment. And some wishing her a spine transplant!:D


WHY can't she chuck a glass of wine at $tevie, and slap her?

Macfan4life 05-27-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258241)
Yeah, but they used to be positive thoughts. Now they're thoughts of disappointment. And some wishing her a spine transplant!:D


WHY can't she chuck a glass of wine at $tevie, and slap her?

That reminds me of a favorite drama moment from Mick's first book. After Stevie got out of rehab she was not happy with Tango and how she was barely on the album. Then she threatened the band stating she was going to Rolling Stone and tell them she had nothing to do with the album. Stevie turned to Chris and told her that she should have been on the backing vocals to Everywhere. According to Mick, Chris had a few glasses of wine in her and took Stevie to the mat. Chris fired back that she wanted Stevie on backing vocals but "you were not here."
Now if she would have chucked a glass of wine, that would have made that moment so much sweeter :)

HomerMcvie 05-27-2020 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1258243)
According to Mick, Chris had a few glasses of wine in her and took Stevie to the mat. Chris fired back that she wanted Stevie on backing vocals but "you were not here."
Now if she would have chucked a glass of wine, that would have made that moment so much sweeter :)

I want a front row seat to THAT!:]:]:]

jbrownsjr 05-27-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1258243)
That reminds me of a favorite drama moment from Mick's first book. After Stevie got out of rehab she was not happy with Tango and how she was barely on the album. Then she threatened the band stating she was going to Rolling Stone and tell them she had nothing to do with the album. Stevie turned to Chris and told her that she should have been on the backing vocals to Everywhere. According to Mick, Chris had a few glasses of wine in her and took Stevie to the mat. Chris fired back that she wanted Stevie on backing vocals but "you were not here."
Now if she would have chucked a glass of wine, that would have made that moment so much sweeter :)


Sweeter than wine?

aleuzzi 05-27-2020 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258232)
I still occasionally hear Got a Hold on Me in stores.

I hear it a lot, too. An easy-listening mainstay. But I still think the non-hits I mentioned hold up better.

HomerMcvie 05-27-2020 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1258256)
I hear it a lot, too. An easy-listening mainstay. But I still think the non-hits I mentioned hold up better.

I've always loved The Challenge.

Ooh, and One in a Million!!!!! I LOVE the guitar runs on OIAM!!!

Macfan4life 05-28-2020 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258258)
I've always loved The Challenge.

Ooh, and One in a Million!!!!! I LOVE the guitar runs on OIAM!!!

Yes the Challenge is pretty cool especially with Eric Clapton on guitar. Not only was it the name of John McVie's boat but also the name of Christine's tour bus in 1984. Walking from the parking lot to the theater there was a fancy tour bus with the words "The Challenge" painted on the rear side.
(just a little known fact......use it as you may)

The rock stations loved to play One in a million

michelej1 05-28-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258236)
I would NEVER leave a store if a FM song is on. As IF!!!:mad::mad::mad:

I leave if the common songs are on, but if I hear something like As Long as You Follow in the drug store, I will stay. I might leave for Little Lies.

HomerMcvie 05-28-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1258266)
I leave if the common songs are on, but if I hear something like As Long as You Follow in the drug store, I will stay. I might leave for Little Lies.

Agreed. This should be a new thread -
During What Song Would You Leave The Store?

SYLM
Over My Head
Dreams
Sara
Everywhere
Say You Will!!!!!
Peacekeeper(I'd probably leave)

That's all I've got. The only ones I wouldn't bother dragging my feet until they're over....

Macfan4life 05-28-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258268)
Agreed. This should be a new thread -
During What Song Would You Leave The Store?

SYLM
Over My Head
Dreams
Sara
Everywhere
Say You Will!!!!!
Peacekeeper(I'd probably leave)

That's all I've got. The only ones I wouldn't bother dragging my feet until they're over....

Lookin out for love
Big Big Love


Homer you begged me to keep you in that house on the hill

But I really could not afford it anymore

Lookin out for love
BIG BIG Love

You said that you'd love me and said you always will

Looking out for love
BIG BIG Love

Ugh Ugh ooo Ugh

HomerMcvie 05-28-2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1258271)
Lookin out for love
Big Big Love

Homer you begged me to keep you in that house on the hill

But I really could not afford it anymore

Lookin out for love
BIG BIG Love

You said that you'd love me and said you always will

Looking out for love
BIG BIG Love

Ugh Ugh ooo Ugh

Big Love is your only one???

I kind of forgot about it from putting it on my list. I don't hate the record version, but.....

BIG LOVE LIVE HAS BEEN MY PEE SONG/GRAB ANOTHER BEER SONG FOR THE PAST SEVERAL TOURS!

And it bugs me that civilians think that he's playing ALL those notes. Half of them are a delay echoing what he's doing. I've tried explaining that at FM parties(when I used to have them), and non musicians look at me like I'm crazy.

jbrownsjr 05-29-2020 09:01 AM

I love Big Love! It's one of my fav songs on the album. I did like the live version, but like Landslide and Dreams - I want to vomit upon hearing it.

aleuzzi 05-30-2020 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1258283)
I love Big Love! It's one of my fav songs on the album. I did like the live version, but like Landslide and Dreams - I want to vomit upon hearing it.

What was once a fresh and exciting reimagining of an old tune is now an old tune.

The Rumours band has trapped themselves by paying slavish attention to the hits. Their set was passe in 1982. They’ve had plenty of chances to reimagine it. The only moments where the formula seemed to have extended, if not entirely changed was in the 2000s, when Christine’s vacancy allowed Buckingham-Nicks to throw some album tunes from SYW into the mix. Also, on the Unleashed tour, Buckingham’s fresh take on “Tusk” was exciting. Other than this, each tour has been the same old circus act.

Even when LB’s replacements stepped in from 1987-1991, and then this last tour, there wasn’t really much of a change in approach, even with new guitarists and vocalists.

It’s sad, really. Imagine if the band had played “Tango in the Night” instead of ISA, “Everybody Finds “Out” instead of “Rhiannon” or “Dreams,” “Sugar Daddy” instead of “Overt My Head.”

I’m not disparaging the hits, which I still and will likely always love, but their live shows could have been a lot more fluid and imaginative.

Naturally, I’m not counting the Bekka-Mason tour in 1995. That was it’s own thing because it had to be.

SteveMacD 05-31-2020 02:50 AM

I think the first few shows with the present band extended things a lot, but I agree that they’ve focused so much on the hits since at least 1982 that going beyond that is always going to be difficult. Similarly, Lindsey’s solos don’t leave a lot of room for players to change things up. They’re bone simple, but also iconic. I mean, where do you go with “Hold Me” or “You Make Loving Fun,” for example?

Feather Blade 06-11-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258268)
Agreed. This should be a new thread -
During What Song Would You Leave The Store?

SYLM
Over My Head
Dreams
Sara
Everywhere
Say You Will!!!!!
Peacekeeper(I'd probably leave)

That's all I've got. The only ones I wouldn't bother dragging my feet until they're over....

I guess I'm in the minority but if we never heard Don't Stop again I'd be ok with that. Probably Landslide too.

michelej1 06-13-2020 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1258505)
I guess I'm in the minority but if we never heard Don't Stop again I'd be ok with that. Probably Landslide too.

Remember when Landslide took a break? What if we had never heard Don’t Stop while Christine was gone and then when she returned they revived it. That would’ve been a heady reunion.

David 06-14-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1258328)
Similarly, Lindsey’s solos don’t leave a lot of room for players to change things up. They’re bone simple, but also iconic. I mean, where do you go with “Hold Me” or “You Make Loving Fun,” for example?

Lindsey himself is the Mac guitarist who demolished and rebuilt his signature studio solos the most, by far. By the time the band had been touring Tusk for a few months, the studio solos had all but disappeared, distorted into the most bizarre sound shapes imaginable. Listen to the way he dragged his guitar parts over broken glass, whether out of creative fire or boredom or both. No other guitarist ever attacked those songs with such ferocity or individuality.

https://youtu.be/6H_A8PCOOPE?t=117

That's the irony of all the moaning and groaning about "sameness" with him in the band. A set list is just a set list. But an inspired musician can take any song and rekindle the fire, if he's up to it. How do you think we can stand listening to yet another recording of perhaps 400 recordings of the Appassionata? We don't always need a new dish. Sometimes we're in the mood for an old dish cooked in a new way.

In song after song on tour, once he loosened up, he deveined and butterflied his solos like shrimp, dunking the entire song in drawn butter. Very tasty - but it did not always go over well with some of the audience who expected to hear the rich smoothness of the albums. Who cares about them, in the long run?


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