Just imagine: who else could have been asked to join FM?
 

Could you imagine if Steve Perry had joined Fleetwood Mac?!? Imagine a mash up of Don't Stop and Don't Stop Believing! Steve singing the Chain would blow Stevie and Christine in the dust. Heck, he could probably sing Songbird better than Christine LOL. I do think this lineup would have been a mess, but a sell out mess!

What about Phil Collins? I don't think Mick would have liked that! A little too close to home, eh Mick? Still, I think this lineup would have sold very well, against all odds.

Any other crazy ideas?

Its odd that the 2 examples you gave (Steve Perry and Phil Collins) have retired from music because of health reasons. They could not have joined if they wanted to.
The Mac is in its last gasp of life. More dysfunction than ever. One member did not want to make new music but only wanted to tour. One member came back after 16 years and only wants to play and make new music. One member just survived cancer and will give one more tour. And one member is on a creative streak with creating an album that was critically acclaimed, toured small theaters, wanted to record more with the Mac, has a solo album to promote, and also wanted to tour with the Mac.
Since the Mac only plays the same songs every concert, why would you have any interest in bringing in new members? Stevie refused to create new music with the Mac yet she wants to tour with different members to play the same songs from the last tour?
At this stage, mashups of Journey/Mac songs or anything else is pretty pathetic IMHO. Really? I wish such energy would have been put into an amazing one last album. I always thought Oh Well by Billy Burnette was a sad sounding cover. I cant even imagine what's in store next :eek:

Ace Frehley? Lol. Seriously though, as startled as I am by the selections, I'm excited at the prospect of older Mac tunes. Since all indications point to Stevie and Mick not wanting to do the same old same ol, this tour could be pretty interesting.

We will see. I have the opposite opinion. Adding 2 new members for a tour (not recording) makes the band play a more traditional set. IMHO they have to convince everyone they are still Fleetwood Mac. Unfortunately IMHO, the "older" material that will be played will be covered by the new guys. I really think they are forced to crank out the hits more than ever. Although its possible for Chris to do one blues song since now her song list increased by at least 3. We on this board are the hardcore fans. The Mac is afraid to play older stuff because the audience does not know it. These kinds of tours, they play for the mass concert attendee. In 1987 Stevie added 2 solo songs and a Buckingham Nicks song to the set. I also think she will play at least 1 solo song and a Heartbreaker song. I think we were counting on deep cuts from Tusk like Angel or Mirage's Straight Back. I think those kind of songs are out the window now. It will be their standard set plus 2 classic Mac tunes, plus Stevie solo/Heartbreaker song. Even on the Buckingham/McVie tour, Christine was extremely conservative. She had the chance to dig out some great songs. But she played only the hits (not including the new promotional songs from their album).

I know you disagree, but I don't think they'll roll out Shaking the Cage part 2. I think Stevie is tired of the same old, and I'd bet we get 7 or 8 big hits and an FM version of the 24KG tour (not Stevie solo songs, but back catalog and older hits from FM). I would also bet that if there's a Heartbreakers tune it's either I Need To Know and/or SDMHA, I'd be game to hear either of those with Mike, Neil, Chris and Stevie But I'd put money on Freedom turning up too, and that's a deep cut I'd love to see live.

I discovered Fleetwood Mac during the BTM lineup, so I had to absorb Lindsey's contributions with all of their other "former" guitarists/singers. The result is that, in general, I love all of the Fleetwood Mac material, but this turn of events has reinforced my original interpretation that the only actual permanent members are Mick and John. I would love to hear Hypnotized, Green Manalishi, Woman of 1000 Years, Freedom, Hollywood, Bright Fire, etc., in concert.

Like a lot of folks, I'm sick and tired of the old setlists, and Stevie's tour was an enormous breath of fresh air for me. I hope she's at least convinced the rest of the band that it's fun to bring out the deep stuff.

Oh They better do Green Manalishi! it’s a perfect song for mike Campbell to play. Plus it’s a well know song on multiple levels including the Judas Priest Cover which I’m not a fan of but then both hardcore Fleetwood Mac fans
Or just casual Fleetwood Mac and casual Judas Priest fans.casual Tom Petty/casual priest or even just casual Petty/peter green only Fleetwood Mac fan.

No excuse guys. GM is in the set or that will be the one thing to get me to boycott this tour too! :laugh:

Freedom would never be played.
100% Guarantee that nothing from BTM or SYW will played

Since Freedom was written by Stevie Nicks and Mike Campbell and appeared on a Fleetwood Mac album, and one without Lindsey, for that matter, there's a good chance they'll perform it live... especially in lieu of new material. It's a decent enough little rocker, and Mike could play the heck out of it live.

Save Me was their last top 40 hit and got a lot of play on MTV and VH1, and again, it's a FM song without Lindsey, so I think there's a small chance it could make the cut.

I'm all but praying As Long As You Follow FINALLY gets added to the set list. This one song alone would guarantee I go to their tour!

Freedom is utter dross. They need to keep this Fleetwood Maccy. Behind The Mask isn't Fleetwood Maccy enough. 99% sure they'd not play this.

I would love to hear Freedom and so many other songs. But that is not going to happen. I will go further than Fuzzy. 100% As Long As You Follow and Freedom wont be in the setlist. Not a chance. They will play the hits. Stevie will play a solo and Heartbreaker song to take the place of her deeper cuts. Christine may have a deeper track and the new guy will play some Peter Green song.

Nah, they don't owe or need to convince anybody of anything and they know it now. I don't buy this being a standard hits tour at all. We will get some hits for sure (I still say 7-8 plus maybe a Heartbreakers tune, and maybe Don't Dream It's Over), but... "Est. 1967." I think they're gonna play older FM songs and deeper cuts from Chris and Stevie, just like she did on her tour. This is unlikely to be same ol, same ol. I do think they'll play GYOW, though, because I think they'll treat this as sort of a career retrospective.

Another reason they wont play Behind The Mask songs is they'd like to avoid people questioning why Lindsey hasn't been replaced by Billy & Rick...

Casual fan No1 to her husband: I think this song is from that really bad album they did with those other two guys when Lindsey left in 1987.
Casual fan No2 to his wife: Oh yeah. Why didn't they rejoin this time? That would have made more sense.

I don't think casual fans can tell the difference between Lindsey Buckingham and Bekka Bramlett.

Also, I don't think Behind the Mask is a terrible album at all. I like it more than Tango, it's close to Mirage in my book.

I suspect, sadly, that very few people are going to ask why Rick and Billy aren't on this tour. It simply wasn't that memorable a lineup, apparently.

80% of Fleetwood Mac's live setlist never changes. With Lindsey gone it allows Chris and Stevie to sing a few more songs. IMHO those additional songs will be a Stevie solo, Heartbreaker song, maybe a Chris blues song, and something classic for the new guy to sing. We are not the group they are playing for unfortunately. They like any other band are forced to play the hits. Even during the last tour I was shocked how the crowd almost was silenced by I know I'm not wrong. Just one tune they don't know and the entire mood of the arena changes. I would like to change one of my predictions. I don't think they will do man of the world. Its too difficult in front of a large arena. Its such a beautiful solemn song. I think Fin could actually sing it but it requires a more intimate setting IMHO. We are die hard fans that know all the songs. That is not who they are playing for. Most are there to see Stevie and the band knows that (its just a sad reality). I've told this story before but in 1987 my heart sank during Over My Head. It was the first single the Rumours era put out. During this tour, Stevie left the stage during Over My Head. Once she left the stage and Over My Head began, thousands of people just rushed to the bathroom. It looked like a fire drill. I felt so embarrassed for the band.

I consider Stevie absolutely indispensable for OMH.

I'm pretty sure from the videos on youtube that I've seen that Stevie left the stage during You make loving fun on the Behind the Mask tour.

I know Stevie was in a bad way at that time, but that didn't seem to be a very respectful thing to do.

On the BTM tour, YMLF came right after Stand Back. They tried to keep the momentum going. Stevie always left the stage. She stayed on stage more in 1987 and 1990 than she did Tusk or Mirage. She sort of did the opposite kind of things. She stayed on stage in 1987 for Oh Well where she is not to sing but left during YMLF and OMH where she could add vocals. However remember 1987 she brought her backing vocalists so she was not stranding Christine with no vocals (or at least in her mind lol). There is an very early 80s interview with Stevie asking her how does she spend her time backstage with Fleetwood Mac (it used to be lots of time). She said she breathed steam to help her voice LOL I am sure there was something other than steam going up her nose ;)

Me toooooo!

Also, Tom Petty has done Oh Well in concert, so I suppose that might be a good Peter Green candidate to make the set.

While I think they will do enough of the hits to keep casual fans happy, I expect (at least hope) that given the adventurous set Stevie had for her last tour that they'll trot out some other things.

Though it's unlikely, I do hope they'll shelve Go You Own Way. Don't Stop and World Turning are one thing (or things), but to have someone other than Lindsey sing GYOW? Pass. They've got enough other hits to fill a set. (I realize they've done it in other concerts without Lindsey...but these new guys come with hits of their own. Replace it with Don't Dream It's Over and move on.)

After thinking about it, I agree, GYOW should be dropped. I've listened to some Neil Finn songs that people have recommended and it's really hard to imagine him singing that song. Plus it's a Lindsey song and the mess surrounding his departure hits too close to home.

Like you, I really think Stevie wants to change up the set list like she did on 24 Karat Gold, and Mick seemed to be in agreement. Also, Christine pulled out some deep cuts for the Buck Vie tour, so she might be willing to do the same here. Wish You Were Here will probably be added, and I'm curious to see if Hold Me Will be, also.

I might be in the minority, but I really don't want to hear a lot of pre-Rumours songs from Christine. I'd much rather hear Isn't It Midnight, As Long As You Follow, Brown Eyes, Save Me, Think About Me, Warm Ways, and Wish You Were Here, along with her hits, of course.

Question: does Mike Campbell actually sing? I've read posts saying he would be perfect for Peter Green material, but I didn't know if that was just his guitar playing or if they meant vocally, too.

I hate Don't Stop- I'm just tired of it. But Neil singing on it will inject new life into it and there's no way FM won't play it, especially if they do intend to drop all the LB songs.

Stevie said she wants to sing deep cuts, and I would love that. Her deep cuts are I Don't Want to Know, Crystal, Straight Back, That's Alright, Welcome to the Room Sara, When I See You Again, Angel, Beautiful Child, and Storms. I really can't see her singing the Tango deep cuts, and Storms and Beautiful Child tend to cancel each other out so she'll only do one or the other, not both. Freedom is a deep cut from Behind the Mask and she wrote it with Mike Campbell, so that is a small possibility. Mick had mentioned maybe including a Buckingham Nicks song, and Crying in the Night would be the obvious choice since she did it solo last year. But why do a BN song now if LB is gone? It would just be another reminder of Lindsey.

I really don't want any Stevie solo songs, but I could handle Stand Back. It would be a good replacement, energy wise, for GYOW. But that better be it.
I can't wait to hear what songs Neil is going to sing!

I'll be sorta surprised if they drop GYOW from the set, even though I agree with you that they should. They did a BN song during the '87 tour without Lindsey (and it was one of Lindsey's songs!).

I honestly would love any deep cuts from Chris (even from Time, lol). Her stuff is so underrated and underplayed. As Long As You Follow would be great, I hear it in restaurants all the time.

I sorta wonder if there'll be a new Best Of with a couple new songs prior to the tour, to establish the lineup.

HoursAndHours, I've been racking my brain and I simply can't think of a BN song FM did in 1987. What was it?

Good point about FM possibly releasing some sort of GH album, along with a couple of new songs. I'd rather they just did another EP though, since there's no way they can do a full album before the tour.

They played Don't Let Me Down Again. It actually sounded pretty good. I think they were trying to find songs for Rick and Billy to sing and this one worked really well. It came right before Has Anyone Ever Written For You and then I loved Another Woman.

I also believe Go Your Own Way will be dropped. Too much bad blood. One song that I think they should do is Black Magic Woman. The audience knows it from Santana but I think it would keep the crowd interested. Just like 1987 I suspect they will open with a very traditional Fleetwood Mac song like Say You Love Me.

Don't Let Me Down Again 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xBqDytSx3c

Thanks, Macfan4life- somehow I completely forgot that was a BN song!

I can guarantee that NONE of those 3 songs (Freedom, Save Me, As Long As You Follow) will be played on the upcoming tour. There is just no way and I'd bet a lot of money on it. I'm that sure.

Steven Tyler and Joe Perry, they're very good friends with both Mick and Stevie, especially Steven.
They're huge fans of the band, regularly play Stop Messin' Around live on tour and have often been at FM shows through the years.
Steven often hangs with Mick in his Maui restaurant, as well as with the other band members if they're present, and was in the crowd of Stevie's Crossroad special show.
Also Aerosmith's band members nominated Fleetwood Mac members for the Ice Bucket Challenge back in the day when it was still in auge but they didn't respond.

Thanks for covering, MF4L - I got hung up with more work than I know what to do with, and couldn't get back to reply. :nod:

Thanks, SisterNightroad! Imagining Steven Tyler in Fleetwood Mac is both fascinating and disturbing at the same time! They could have done a mashup of Angel- her version and his version combined LOL!

They could just mash up Angel from Tusk and Angel from Heroes.