**** I jsut read people we voting before. Well its going to happen again! Sorry :sorry:

Run-off
 

Jacob, I'm sorry this has turned into such a nightmare for you. It seems to have devolved into the worst sort of Stevie vs. Lindsey stuff, which really is sad, as this is just a game.

I try to vote for songs in the order of my like/dislike, without regard to whether they are Stevie or Lindsey or Chris songs. To that end, in this run-off vote, I choose That's Enough For Me to go. Even though I am primarily a Lindsey fan, I like Beautiful Child better.

But I really, really, really wish Save Me A Place would go. :)

You don't owe me an apology. I owe you one. Sorry. I shouldn't have vented at you. And I am dropping out not because of you, but because I've lost faith in the person running the game, who obviously lacks the stuff to stick by his decisions.

Well....... Goodbye! Don't let the door hit ya ass on the way out! :mad:

Too late. I already made the decision to leave this game. This game is a crock. You are changing rules to manipulate the outcome. I wonder just exactly what is going on here, how much communication you had with the chiffon heads who obviously got you to reverse yourself yet again.

You have made mistake after mistake. You seem unable to even count, for crying out loud. You have no credibility left in this game. You should excuse yourself and hand it over to someone who has credibility, organization skill and impartiality, someone like Sodascouts.

This game is a farce, and its future outcome has already been tainted by what is either incompetence on your part or a basic lack of a sense of fairness and fortitude.

Outside of that, you're a good dude, and I'll be glad to interact with you on other threads. But you suck at running this thing.

No, it won't. It's a farce. Why don't you just tell everybody which song you want to win? Why don't you just bring back Sara to make the farce complete?

See what I mean? You can't keep track. Step out and let someone who can take over.

Didnt you say you were leaving?????
Don't tell me how to run a game!!! I have done Rumours, Bella Donna, adn TITN without any problems! So you have no right to accuse me of stupid **** like that?
O and all the "chiffon heads" have helped me into pointing out what I have done wrong! But doenst me I have gone over to either side!
Say what you want! I but this game is not a Lindsey vs Stevie game Its SONG survivor!
Please leave your comments to yourself!

Yes, I said I'm leaving the game, but evidently two thirds of what happens in this thread has little to do with casting votes.

Someone needs to tell you how to run the game, so it might as well be me. And I do have the right to point out that you have made some pretty stupid mistakes. A few posts back you had to correct yourself yet again. And frankly, even in correcting yourself you didn't make yourself clear. When exactly is the runoff round running until? You have yet to articulate that. People started voting once again before it was clear what was going on. So I'm not accusing you of anything. I am pointing out the reality. And, evidently, the truth hurts.

What this game needs is an impartial observer to set things straight, and since I'm no longer a player, I might as well play that role.

I'm sure you'd like that. But no, not gonna happen. Consider me the commentator, like the sports announcers on TV.

Fine. How about I make YOU happy and piss the other "chiffon heads" off. :mad: :eek:

Actually, I like that idea a lot. I'll keep a running commentary on the game. Tainted as it is, it will need someone to keep it honest. Here's my first report:

As of now, it seems the game has once again fallen into complete disarray. Jacob has now voided yet another round, this time to save Beautiful Child from the grips of oblivion. Sources tell me he caved to pressure from the Stevie fans who, having lost Sara early on, were out for blood when Beautiful Child lost fair and square, and decided to do everything they could in their power, even voting in absentia through the man running the game himself (!!) to reverse the fortunes of Stevie's songs and manipulate the outcome to their liking.

It is unclear at this point, since Jacob has failed to articulate it, whether the Over and Over round is invalidated too. It is complete mayhem, dear listeners. No one seems to know which way is north and right from left. Jacob's rulings have been so odd and inconsistent that a fair number of players have lost confidence in his ability to run the game and have started to drop out. And who can blame them? So it appears that the Stevie fans who pushed so hard to sway the game their way will prevail after all, but it will be a tainted victory, of that there is no doubt.

So, dear listeners, we await further word from Jacob on just what is going on. Is the Beautiful Child v. That's Enough For Me round still on or did it expire at 9 Eastern? If so, this poses very serious questions because the European players never had a chance to vote in the runoff. But if it is still on, when will it end? And does that mean the Over and Over round is voided too since the game has now regressed two rounds backward? And will there be a regular round concurrent with the runoff round?

Too many questions. Not enough answers, dear listeners. We remain baffled by this odd, and questionable, turn of events.

Signing off, this is CarneVaca, yours, reporting from the Ledge.

If you're interested in making me happy, the solution is simple: Validate the Beautiful Child and Over and Over rounds, and resume the game. Nothing short of that will make me happy.

No beacuse OVER & OVER was voted out FAIRLY and BC was unfairly!

Sodascouts, it's not a tantrum. I just agree with CarneVaca that the person running the game, no offense, but he can't really be trusted anymore to run it fairly and properly. Sorry, it was a lot of fun up till now. There was a lot of strategy that made the game exciting. It was even fun when songs I wanted to keep were lost because the game was so dynamic.

I don't have as much time as some to post on these boards all the time, but I was making it a point to drop by everyday to see how it was going and to cast my vote. Now my heart is not in it. I know Carne likes controversy, but I can't help thinking he is right on this one. Jacob's made too many mistakes. Who's to say there won't be more? All the mistakes are making me lose interest in what song wins. I just don't care that much about it, unless somehow the game is salvaged from the mess that it became.

Maybe someone else should take over, or someone should start an alternate Tusk Surivor game. This one is broken, big time.

Voting
 

I vote for THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME to leave...

I'm not trying to be harsh, but this doesn't make any sense at all to me. How can you go back to the Beautiful Child round and still keep the results of the Over and Over round? Don't you think that if the results of the Beautiful Child round are changed now because of this runoff, which I think is a really bad idea, it puts all the results of the Over and Over round in question? Don't you see that if TEFM had been voted off in the Beautiful Child before that the next song off would probably have been Beautiful Child and NOT Over and Over?

If you go back and look at previous results, you will see that a song that got a lot of votes in one round but did not get voted off was immediately voted off in the next round, which makes sense because the players would keep voting for it until it's out. Now by redoing the BC round and keeping the Over and Over round you are doing something very unnatural that not only makes the Over and Over round very questionable but also has repercussions for future rounds. I don't see how you can carry on this game fairly after redoing the BC round.

But anyway, I'm out, and before you remind me of that, I will take my leave of this thread. Unlike Carne, I won't stick around to do commentary although I do think I will check in periodically if his commentary is as hilarious as the first report he filed already.

OK, Well unlike you not everyone on this earth has the free time to fix there mistakes and slosh throught all of your ranting that dont contain votes! So ya know what keep up with your comments PLZ! :mad:

Good points. Jacob is taking the "back to the future" approach to running the game. Or like in "It's a Wonderful Life," you know when the angel shows the Jimmy Stewart character what life would have been for others if he hadn't existed. Now here we have a situation in which we are supposed to go back in time but let a future dimension, i.e., the Over and Over round, somehow stand untouched, something that would have been unquestionably impossible in a quantum-leap kind of situation.

Besides, Jacob, I find it very odd that you have called your own decision on BC "unfair." So are we to believe that you can be fair now? You say you made an unfair decision, but you want to retain credibility as you stumble forward with this game? :shrug:

Keep 'em coming!!!!!! I love how none of the "chiffon heads" have sadi anything? Or if you think I am siding with them, How come I am in this by myself????? You tell me. NO you finish this game...


I OFFICALLY GIVE UP!

I intend to. My second report:

The wait continues.

As the midnight hour approaches, Jacob has yet to clarify how long the controversial, and some say unfair, BC runoff round will last. It remains unclear whether players outside of the North America will have a chance to cast their votes. As it is, with some players vowing to bow out of the tainted game in protest, the future of this competition looks murky at best.

As of now, the votes for dropping That's Enough For Me far outnumber those for Beautiful Child. And since this runoff was concocted to run while non-North American players, who earlier cast votes for Beautiful Child, are unable to vote, one wonders if the timing wasn't intended to keep them out and assure a victory for the supporters of Beautiful Child.

Indeed, suspicion runs rampant and questions remain. But no word from the man running the show.

Reporting from The Ledge, this is CarneVaca, yours, signing off.

Who are you trying to impress?????? Because as much as you think your funny, your not. I could of sworn you said you were leaving.

This just in: The future of Tusk Survivor stands uncertain. Jacob has declared that he is stepping out.

, he declared.

What will happen next? Will this game go down as a failed experiment in cyber competition? Or will someone step in to finish this race?

Stay tuned.

I said I was leaving the game, not the thread. Besides, didn't you just step down?

O I have givin up on this thread, But there is still a hope for others. I have enjoyed doing this. And I hope that you will be a part of the next one becasue really it wouldnt be a survivor game with out your negativity

Are you adverse to someone starting a new one?

Not the tusk one. Untill then I would like to think about starting a new one, I am really looking into doing a LIVE one ore maybe and album that wasnt soo long!

Do The Wild Heart!!! :blob2:

I may take over then. I'd like to start over from the beginning, though. Would people find that too tiresome?

I would like to the first to campaign to be the new host of "Tusk" survivor. We'd pick up where we left off, BEFORE the whole Beatiful Child/That's Enough For Me fiasco. Now, I don't want to seem like a jerk walking in on Jacob's role, so if anyone is opposed to this (and I PM'd 77Rumours77 right off the bat about this), let me know and I won't bother. Until then, I'll work up a draft for revised rules and post it - and see what people think. The key is simplicity and organization, really.

After the "Tusk" one is finished, then I'll hand it right back over if he wants to take it back, no problemo. I'd just hate to see this all go to waste due to some problems developing midway.

good idea, I'll start that one tonight.

Wow, I was going to comment that CarneVaca really went off the deep end tonight. Aggressively attacking poor Jacob, and complaining loudly about "Chiffon Heads" taking over the game. After he had vehemently lobbied for recounts in the past, and then purposely overlooked the fact that "That's Enough For Me" had more votes in ALL previous rounds, than "Beautiful Child."

Talk about "sour grapes"!

But then, of course, I remembered that it's just "all in good humour" when good ol' CV says something, so.... :wavey:

You did a good job, Jacob. Sometimes I was disappointed because I felt you caved-in too quickly to the demands of the Tusk-Heads ( ;) ), but I realized you were just doing your best to try to stay as fair as possible.

Too bad folks turned on you so quickly when they didn't get their way 100% of the time though. :shocked: ;)

At any rate... it's all in good fun, folks! Never forget that. :D

Thank You :wavey:

Good to know someone came to my back!!!!! :]
But this should really not be about Stevie vs Lindsey, Its not like I posted Wild Heard survivor in the Lindsey board!! God, This is just a game. CV please take a "chill pill" (can't believe I said that ewww, I need a shower now :lol: ) and cool down, If you did not like the way I was running the tread you could of PM'd me instead of humiliating me. But I just read the "what the hell is going on thread" and I see that you can't help that, Sorry...

another thing...
 

Isn't it weird that someones Screen Name is bn used as an insult during this game? Sad :(

Jacob,
I just want to say that I think you've been doing a fantastic job of running the Survivor threads. I'd also like to encourage you not to let Carne and others get you to step down from this Tusk one. Let him ramble as he does and show him that you're going to stick with it till the end. If you really want to step down, that's cool. I just had to tell you that you're doing a great job! Keep it up! Most of us have your back and are having a blast with this game.

I find it interesting that earlier in the thread Carne was defending you and telling someone that they were being too harsh on you. Then, when things don't go his way, he clearly insults, demeans, and harasses you. I didn't think we were supposed to do that to each other in here. He owes you an apology...but don't count on that happening. He's not a big enough man.

OK...I'm done with my ramble. Just had to throw in my two cents and show my support for Jacob.

Sorry Jacob, but you must know That i wouldn't have voted Over & over if BC was still in the game. It's that simple. It's the way the game works. Now I don't think there's conspiracy and I really think Carne's Paranoia is out of this league. But I agree that gaming with this Survivor costs a lot of time and energy. And it was fun to play it with strategy. I back out of the game too, because I think that replay an "in between" round ruins the game.

I don't point fingers but my fun is gone. Tusk is the best album ever recorded by anyone. And therefore it's a pity that my vote will not be seen anymore in this thread.

It's gonna be predictable I think. Storms wins. well. I can live with that ;)

I think we're gonna re-do this whole sucker and get it RIGHT. More news tomorrow.

Now this coming from you is especially hilarious... In the end though, it's really NoThatFunny :rolleyes:

I think the next time this is tried, we need to keep the posts to a minimal, with just the vote being in the post and not much else, and then if you have something to say write a spearate post with "No Vote" in it to make sure votes are easily readably. This is a really fun game and can be even funner if just some simple courtesy are kept. :nod:

Tynan

:shocked:

umm..

Drugs Are Great.

can we close the thread now? ;)
Just another ledgie who's had enough.

Good idea, Nancy! A fresh start with explicit rules might be better... I was lost here... :distress: