Yes, it's been said several times in various interviews/videos - it should all be in the FM Press 2013 thread and the 2013 Video Interview thread.

At first they just were saying that she brought in a BN song to record (and Lindsey was kind of harping on the fact that she didn't bring anything new) and then they eventually starting saying that said BN song was Without You.

ok, I believe you. Searching for the vid would be like reading all the articles again. At some point I just start skimming them, b/c is seems I have read it/or a variation of it 3-5 times over. Ahh love that modern journalisim. ;)

see that's what i don't like about videos vs the text - you can't do a quick search to find what you need.

but i'm sure that's gonna be coming soon enough.

It won't happen; this unexpected live performance was unrelated to what Fleetwood Mac is doing. I'll eat the remaining two-thirds of my hat if it does happen.
:p

haha, we want screen caps of the first missing third! :D

I don't think the reason she doesn't want to record is because Christine is gone. I think the reason is she doesn't want to record, period. But having Christine do it would force her hand. Either she'd want to record or wouldn't want to be left out. So, she'd join in.

I'm not saying she won't record because she misses Christine so much. I'm saying she is resistant to recording but if Christine is involved that resistance would be overcome.

As for the internet, I don't think that's her concern, actually. She just doesn't want to put out FM music for whatever reason. That's my thought.

Michele

I agree about the videos. They have snapstream that lets you search videos. Jon Stewart has been using it for years, which is how his staff finds video tape from 10 years ago of politicians contradicting what they're saying now. But Snapstream is very expensive. I wish that technology would become available to the average consumer.

Plus, I'm having a hard time saving videos too. I'm thinking of just running them on my tv via the internet through my Kindle Fire and recording them on tivo. But it's a lot of work for snippets.

Anyway, Mick kept saying 3-4 songs that Stevie might have been on, like he thought there might be another one out there that we don't know about. So, maybe there's Without You and something else. I guess he just wasn't there at Lindsey's house, so he doesn't know what she sang on. But if he listens to anything they say (3000 times) he should know that it's just the 2. I'd like to know why he says it is possibly 3.

Michele

This is how I feel, as well.

And the internet is definitely just a scapegoat at this point. I don't think any of them even believe what they're saying re: no one wanting to listen to full albums, etc. It's a lame excuse.

We can never trust this band when it comes to numbers. Stevie refered to the long Rhiannon version when Letterman mentioned that on Valentine, as the "17 minute"- version. Ha. I bet they only recorded Two. :D

That reminded me of John on the Best Buy CD talking about Molly performing Rhiannon at school years and, of course, being a young girl, Molly wanted to do the looooong version of the song.

Bet Letterman doesn't know about the Cleaning Lady version of Sara.

Michele

I was so so happy to read about this, and watch the video online! Christine just has to come back for this tour. I just think the timing of her going to Hawaii and seeing Stevie in LA right before the tour starts is just, well...because she is seriously thinking of re-joining. She's had 15 years to take this trip and why choose now when the group are about to embark on a massive world tour?

If this show (line up etc) was brought to England I'd be all over it!

...just sayin! :)

Why would Mick have been forced (so it seemed) to confirm in the UK press that she would never be coming back, after he initially made those ambiguous comments about her in January? It felt as though she had seen his interviews and told him personally to set the record straight.

I just assumed they were talking about the concert version of "Rhiannon" that had the extended jam.

He was told to stop asking. Since then, he hasn't ruled out a return. He's just stopped bugging her. He said it's got to be her decision.

But there are two different issues here. She is not going to tour. Whether he knows that or not, I think it's pretty clear. It doesn't mean she won't record and my guess is she wants to record, actually.

Michele

I agree that she won't tour, though on this week's experience I wouldn't now rule out her doing Don't Stop at a London gig later this year, though I still think it unlikely.

I keep saying it, and it's against what I would love to happen, but I just don't see her recording with them. Their priority right now is rehearsing a four-person lineup tour. They will be onstage without Christine within the next couple of months. Recording of any sort, with all the time that it takes, can't happen whilst that is the priority. Christine will fly back to England in a few weeks I would have thought that will be that.

Recording takes a matter of days and there would be no better time to do it than when they're all together anyway.

I don't see her not doing something with them and I've been saying that ever since Mick said she was coming to Los Angeles.

Michele

This is what Mick said as quoted by the Telegraph:

The Sun interview was, I think, what prompted his being told to stop appealing publicly for her to rejoin; it was the boldest, clearest attempt in a while. The Telegraph thing came after and, as I said, it was as if he'd been reprimanded in between whether by Christine herself or by Martin Wyatt or whoever else.

Ok, so recording can take days, but that's assuming she has written songs for them to sing and that they like them and think the band can add something to them. I just think it's fantasy (albeit nice), given her most recent protestations in Mojo and comments in The Times (which didn't sound like she was returning in any capacity) and Mick's "no, no, no" in the latter when asked if she was coming back. He clearly said she is part of their past now.

Yes, obviously, someone said something to Mick because he said he'd had to agree not to ask her. But it didn't stop him from hoping that she'd still return and thinking he could be part of persuading her. Even after the reprimand, he was still talking about her returning.

She has loads of songs from 10 years ago that haven't been used (and beyond, because she talked about all the songs she had stored up on the Best Buy CD in 1997 too). But it doesn't have to be one of her songs. She can sing on some of their songs. Just like Stevie came and sung on Lindsey's, following 4 days in his bunker.

Or maybe Stevie has a song Christine can sing on.

The timing of her "visit" is so strange that it doesn't seem like wishful thinking to imagine she's doing something with them. It will seem much odder if nothing comes of it, in my view. You said they are concentrating on rehearsing, well exactly. She knew they'd be busy when she left England. Why come now, if there wasn't a specific reason?

As far as England goes, it's such a long time between now and then that I don't think her performing at the MACC increases the likelihood she'd actually perform in England, not if nothing's afoot. Being back home again for 7 months, out of the limelight once more, would probably make her disinclined to return to the stage in September.

However, if they have longterm plans and have been discussing doing something together, then I can see them doing concerts in England. If not this tour, then next year.

I was wondering if she made an appearance in England if it would be more likely on the first night or the last, but actually, if she does something, she might as well do all 3 nights and they can record them and just take the best moments from each night.

The MACC showed that she wouldn't be limited to playing on Don't Stop. If she knows the song, she can play on any of them. Obviously, she can play on songs from 1975 on as easily as she did Rattlesnake Shake. So, if she appears in England, I wouldn't think it would be just for a Don't Stop cameo.

I just hope that once she gets to Los Angeles we still hear about what she's doing while she's here. Then, I guess the next time we hear about her it will be from the others saying that she has returned to the UK.

Michele

I hope you are right, though I'm still not convinced.

I thought the timing of her visit was not "strange", but convenient:-

A. Because Mick would be in the UK and gallantly offered to escort her, given her fear of flying.

B. Because Mick has just opened a new restaurant and, knowing Christine's love of cookery, he wanted her to see it.

C. Because if she wanted to see the others then rehearsal time would mean they'd all be together then and she could kill four birds with one stone.

D. It has been exceptionally cold and snowy in England for the last couple of months, probably the coldest and snowiest it has been in a long time (maybe even since she moved back) and Mick thought a trip to some warmth would do her good. I think he said as much in one of the interviews.

E. The deaths of both Bobs has made her want to see Mick and John in person particularly, reminder as those events were of the passage of time.

She could have come back with them after their European tour when they would all be on vacation. I see this as a working vacation, but time will tell. Michele

If we ever find out what's gone on in L.A. ...

maybe she can hang around rehearsals and do Don't Stop as a surprise guest first couple of shows in a month from now :D :thumbsup:

Me too. But can you offer me one over 10 minutes?

I don't have enough hats to eat to cover that eventuality!

so, was Christine getting paid for that gig in Maui??

wasn't that gig for charity?

Maybe she got an advance on the $5 mil that Stevie is scrounging up to give to her.

Michele

Anyway, time is running out before she starts missing those dogs too much and leaves.

Put her to work now. Sooner the better.

Michele

Heres another Video of Christine playing and singing at the Gig with the blues band :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okdlvUWLUuc

I agree with Mick at the beginning of the clip.

OMG I'm going to have a heart attack!!! Great piano solo and riffing with Rick!

I am so glad that there is such positivity on this thread. It certainly provides stark contrast to the negativity and raving going on in other parts of this board.

:thumbsup:

It's so true. I read Christine threads and it's so bright and wonderful in here. lol

Some Fleetwood Mac fans are still saying that about Peter Green! Embrace the fact Fleetwood Mac is very unique in the way they have survived and evolved through many configurations and styles. As long as their namesakes (Mick and John) are there, it will always be Fleetwood Mac, regardless of whoever else is in the band.

I'm hoping we have an album of new music to look forward to if Stevie and Lindsey can come to terms with each other. While Say You Will was an interesting, creative and challenging album, I still think they could produce a great album artistically on or near par with Rumours. At least I hope that it will have a warmer sound than the steely feel of their previous work.

The poster you reply to was commenting that it isn't the same without Christine. They are correct, it isn't. Whether you think FM is better or worse without her, it is different.

We're all very much aware of the ever-changing nature of this band. I don't think those of us who have been posting on this thread, which has been a joyful thread about an event we didn't expect, need to be told to embrace the fact that the band has thrived on change. We can be maudlin for the full Rumours lineup if we want!

For the record, I couldn't care less about the current lineup's attempts at an album, but I respect those who could and am happy for them if they get what they want.

Love. This. Post.

Yeah, but Christine even played with him on "Mr. Wonderful". In fact, "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac" and the never-intended-for-release "Fleetwood Mac In Chicago" (and, okay, the Boston Tea Party set) are the only albums that don't have Christine on it. There are people who've come and gone, but, aside from Mick and John, none have been as essential to the "Fleetwood Mac" sound as Christine McVie.

It would be a dream come true if Christine would be joining the band for the tour. Let's cross our fingers...
And now that she's been on a plane and on stage again - who knows?

Just think of all the wonderful possible additions to the setlist:

You Make Loving Fun
Songbird
Isn't It Midnight
Oh Daddy
Over And Over
...

And, though highly unlikely:
"Never Forget" would be such a great song to close the show! Just imagine tens of thousands of fans singing: "We will never forget tonight..."

other than Songbird, i don't have any desire to hear any of the songs listed above live even if Christine is there :sorry:... but there are others i wouldn't mind.